Things you like/hate about cartoons

[Fomalhaut]

I don't find that a fair attack. Anime is cheap because they ARE cheap, as in literally, Japan animators do not have the money to animate their characters as fluently and fluidly as we do in America, that's why they look this way. That's why anime characters stand still like statues when they talk.

It's not a choice it's something they have to deal with. You gotta understand, it's a whole different system in Japan then it is here, values, morals, beliefs, views. Big difference, big culture. Also, just like in America, certain Animes are drawn with different styles.

Take the movie "Spirited Away" that is a specific and unique design of the animator's styling, totally different from others. Same with Dragon Ball, Trigun, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and so on and so forth. Every animator brings their own unique touch to anime.

Sorry, did you read my full post? I said there are anime which aren't drawn that way, I even made examples! I didn't say I hated anime because of that, I said there are some in which it's really evident.

[Medikor]

Some of the older animes all have unique styles that are distinguishable by the author or writer, now though most animes are drawn through computers and alot of the animation styling looks the same. Same with our cartoons, alot of shows sport similar designs that really cut down on the toons individual properties.

Very good point, Mr.Marshmallow. That's something I've been aware of for a while. while that procedure does make the shows look sharper and "better" it sacrifices the individual charm the show had.
I also noticed that when shows are done like that the character designes become more refined and set in stone if you know what I mean. Simpsons are a good example. They just stoped looking like the Simpsons I remember once they became computer drawn and not hand drawn. I really miss Lissa's old designe, she was so much cuter.

[hottoepicker]

i love the certain cartoons that i do because they make me laugh, give me good one liners, make me feel youthful without being weird, and some of them are just really adult oriented and that is great...

i can't think of anything really bad, although there are some that i think are pointless. but there is one for everyone. even my hubby, who rarely watches anything but espn will sit down and watch foster's with me and really enjoy it and laugh....it is sweet.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Sorry, did you read my full post? I said there are anime which aren't drawn that way, I even made examples! I didn't say I hated anime because of that, I said there are some in which it's really evident.

No, I didn't say you hated anime and didn't mean any negativity or harsh intentions to come out of what I said.

[pitbulllady]

The thing I've always hated the most about traditional cartoons, and I guess, some Anime(don't watch it, so I might be wrong here)is that so many have a plot that revolve around a "Good Guy", who's always flawless and does only "good" things", and a "Bad Guy", or villain, who's out to "get" the Good Guy, no matter what, and who is thoroughly rotten to the core. Quite often there was no reason given for why the Bad Guy had it in for the Good Guy, although sometimes this was simply a matter of who was highest on the food chain(ex. Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner). Most episodes featured the Bad Guy going to some great length to kill/hurt/catch/stop the Good Guy, and the Good eventually prevailing, making the Bad Guy look like a fool. It was pretty much clear-cut that people are either totally Good or totally Bad, no in between; Good people never do bad things, and Bad people are certainly incapable of doing anything good.

I guess that's one of the reasons why Foster's appeals to me-the characters more closely mirror real life. It's difficult to determine, sometimes, whether to call Bloo a "Good Guy" or a "Bad Guy", as he's certainly done things that would qualify him for both catagories. Even Wilt has done some things that were clearly bad, like pushing Mr. Herriman down the stairs in "Bus the Two of Us", while Duchess did a favor for Eduardo. True, she SAID that it was to keep him from making HER look bad in the photo, but it was still a favor, so it goes to show that no one is totally good or bad on the show. Given time, we usually find out the reasons and past experiences that make the characters "tick" and give insight as to why they do the things they do, and we're led to wonder about the ones we have not learned about yet, rather than be asked to simply accept that "So-and-So is evil" or "What-His-Face is pure Goodness".

pitbulllady

[Invader Bloo]

How it has turned from good quality with inside jokes for adults/teens & kids whoare smart & get those jokes to bad quality where the jokes are gay & it looks like 10 year olds write the scripts. Too much freakin' teeny bop crap nowadays.

I can handle toilet humor when it is used in a funny way like in Billy & Mandy, now when episodesare based on butts *cough*gympartner'samonkey*cough*.

I soley hate anime because it's boring & the jokes are ghey. If there like those weird Japanese game shows I'd watch it.

Don't even get me started on animated movies now the only good companies are Pixar (Now eaten upby Disney ), Dreamworks (Now eaten up by Paramount) & Bluesky. Disney has completely fallen in the crapper unless the aquisition of Pixar makes it better.

[SkittleMonkey]

Okay, I agree with the first part of your statement. But calling anime ghey/boring and saying you hate it? I find that extremely offensive and a bit judgmental...

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Okay, I agree with the first part of your statement. But calling anime ghey/boring and saying you hate it? I find that extremely offensive and a bit judgmental...

Yeah I kind of am hurt by that too. Actually, some animor humor can be as clever, vulgar, or effective is our own style of humor, it all depends on the anime. Certain animes apply solely to certain peopke's senses of humor.

Much like our own shows, certain cartoons apply to certain people only, or are intended for certain people only. I do know of some animes that do have very dry senses of humor, but I've also seen the dubbed versions come out a thousand times funnier.

Samurai Pizza Cats is a fine example of that. One thing I love about cartoons is how they do super heroes. I think they do super heroes more justice then in the movies. The multiple villains, the voice actors, and the fights! Superman and Batman: animated series had some superb script writing and dialouge.

Clancy Brown's performance of Lex Luthor in the Superman cartoon series is a thousand times better then ANY of the movie versions of him. Now for something I hate.....politically correct cartoons. You know it's really sad when you hear Bugs Bunny cartoons and guys are being censored these days.

Porky Pig, and Speedy Gonzales are considered "racial characters" and toons like Tom and Jerry get edited because a black house keeper character is considered offensive as well. Hell, even half the things Tom and Jerry do to each other is considered offensive because there sending "bad messages".

What a load of crap.

[fosters home fan]

note the links

Yeah I kind of am hurt by that too. Actually, some animor humor can be as clever, vulgar, or effective is our own style of humor, it all depends on the anime. Certain animes apply solely to certain peopke's senses of humor.

Much like our own shows, certain cartoons apply to certain people only, or are intended for certain people only. I do know of some animes that do have very dry senses of humor, but I've also seen the dubbed versions come out a thousand times funnier.

Samurai Pizza Cats is a fine example of that. One thing I love about cartoons is how they do super heroes. I think they do super heroes more justice then in the movies. The multiple villains, the voice actors, and the fights! Superman and Batman: animated series had some superb script writing and dialouge.

Clancy Brown's performance of Lex Luthor in the Superman cartoon series is a thousand times better then ANY of the movie versions of him. Now for something I hate.....politically correct cartoons. You know it's really sad when you hear Bugs Bunny cartoons and guys are being censored these days.

Porky Pig, and Speedy Gonzales are considered "racial characters" and toons like Tom and Jerry get edited because a black house keeper character is considered offensive as well. Hell, even half the things Tom and Jerry do to each other is considered offensive because there sending "bad messages".

What a load of crap.

If you go to one of the links I posted It will show you what got edited out,I despise political correctness

[Wendi]

...I can handle toilet humor when it is used in a funny way like in Billy & Mandy, now when episodesare based on butts *cough*gympartner'samonkey*cough*...

Toilet humor doesnt bother me, either. I love My gym partner's a monkey, though xDD That's a show I really like.

Also, I guess a lot of the toilet humor is what makes kids laugh, which is what a lot of the creators are aiming at.

...I soley hate anime because it's boring & the jokes are ghey. If there like those weird Japanese game shows I'd watch it. ...

I'm not to fond of anime either. I'm doing just fine watching my american cartoons I like seeing the match ups with mouth movements and the words

[Voxxyn]

Adult cartoons in general are kinda starting to bother me. Their increased popularity and influence means that those who watch "kids toons" are more prone than ever to ridicule by our increasingly cynical, conceited, "nice people finish last" society. I REALLY hate it when I see a "What's your favorite cartoon?" thread on other boards and see The Simpsons/Futurama/Family Guy/South Park/Adult Swim make up 90% of the responses.

And, in my view, most adult cartoons today aren't really so "cutting edge". The Simpsons used to be the undisputed king of animated sitcoms; now it's just a soulless, creatively-bankrupt money-making machine for FOX. Family Guy is completely worthless if you took away it's trademark "manatee gags". South Park is sometimes great and even genius, but I find most of the so-called "offensive" content to be boring and predictable. Adult Swim's original comedies are really hit-or-miss for me, there are some I enjoy or even love, but others are so awful that I can't believe they're airing on cable TV.

To me, it seems that most adult cartoons are so obsessed with being trendy or offensive or snidely self-aware that they end up neglecting the actual characters and story. Futurama remains one of my all-time favorite shows because it wasn't just random gags or blatantly offensive content, it had actual storylines and characters that had some depth to them, even if the show was mostly comedic. I want to see another "adult" cartoon like that.

Sadly, it's not like today's children toons aren't faring any better.

Also, I guess a lot of the toilet humor is what makes kids laugh, which is what a lot of the creators are aiming at.

Ugh. If that means I'm supposed to accept it, then you are COMPLETELY wrong. That kind of "humor" is one of the absolute WORST things to happen to cartoons in general, both for children and adults.

[Medikor]

I couldant agree with Voxxyn any more if I wanted to. Another problom with Simpsons, Family Guy and even American Dad is that they are WAY too left wing for their own good. They come off as patronizing and anti Republican and that really turns me off sometimes since I consider myself a Consevative.
Futurama was differant. While Simpsons and Family Guy are very scarce on character development, (Simpsons is the biggest culprit here) Futurama continued with the formula that made us love Simpsons in the first place. It had characters that you could care about and the plots were very character driven-not driven around the characters. Things happend for a reason and the characters learned something or were affected in some way.
If this is the direction that animated sitcoms are going then I'm pretty upset. King of the Hill is the only one I can think of that hasant really changed but I was never a fan of that show to begin with.

[Jabberwocky]

Family Guy doesn't rely completely on the cutaway jokes, and either way, they're funny. I never liked Futurama, and the Simpsons is just so much brainhurt nowadays.


I agree though, toilet humor is stupid. It's just gross. Slapstick humor makes kids laugh. THINK BACK, REMEMBERRRRRRRRRRRR. As someone who babysits and has two little brothers, I can safely say that a guy having a piano dropped on him is much funnier to a toddler than farting.


As for anime, saying you hate it is like saying you hate cartoons or movies or books. =\ That is a really gigantic broad general term. One Piece and Ranma rock my pox.


Also plz die Loonatics. That is another thing I hate about cartoons, when no one has a bloody original idea floating around in their cranium.

[Wendi]

Ugh. If that means I'm supposed to accept it, then you are COMPLETELY wrong. That kind of "humor" is one of the absolute WORST things to happen to cartoons in general, both for children and adults.

That's your opinion. and no where in my post did I say anyone had to accept anything. It was just MY opinion.

I'm gonna get attacked for saying this, but MOST cartoons are intended for kids. they aren't JUST for kids, but INTENDED for them. and kids like weird things. I know because I still am a kid.

[kageri]

Okay, I agree with the first part of your statement. But calling anime ghey/boring and saying you hate it? I find that extremely offensive and a bit judgmental...

Calling anything gay is pretty lame, but that aside, Wendi was merely saying that a lot of creators are aiming to make kids laugh, which is true, because most cartoons -- Foster's included -- are intended for kids (and nobody say "but they're for adults too" because although they make it so adults can enjoy it as well, it is a kids' show first and foremost).