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Mr. Marshmallow · 09-19-2006, 03:20 PM

I believe in ghosts for the same reason I believe aliens exist, there's too much possibility in the world for things we know about and know nothing about. Everything we ever thought we know ends up changing at some point in time, sooner or later.

I think it's possible because not everything requires proof. There is no proof in God, yet people believe he exists, there is no scientific proof we have souls, yet people believe in them as well. Just because we can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I'm a firm believer in the fact that the world is too vast, big, and mysterious for us to be completely 100% sure we know what exists and what doesn't in every aspect of life. For people who believe in say angels or life after death, why is it so hard for people to believe a ghost can exist?

The weird events we see, the shadows we see but then don't, not every spooky little event is someone's mind playing tricks on them or some kind of illusion caused by stress or drugs or stuff like that. I believe that we have souls and if we have souls, I believe that is in essence the human spirit.

And if a spirit can exist inside a body then it can exist outside of a body as well. But that's just me.

Emma · 09-19-2006, 03:32 PM

Well, while that rational would make sense if you believed in souls -- and I agree that if you believe in souls/God/other supernatural stuff and not ghosts you're being a hypocrite. But I don't believe in any of that. I think everything does require proof. There will always be stuff that we don't understand -- but I think that deciding that such and such is true without prooving it will just prolong our ignorance. But again, that's just my opinion.

Cassini90125 · 09-19-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Emma

Well, while that rational would make sense if you believed in souls -- and I agree that if you believe in souls/God/other supernatural stuff and not ghosts you're being a hypocrite. But I don't believe in any of that. I think everything does require proof. There will always be stuff that we don't understand -- but I think that deciding that such and such is true without prooving it will just prolong our ignorance. But again, that's just my opinion.

Mine as well. I insist on proof, not opinion.

G-man · 09-19-2006, 03:36 PM

simply I do believe in them,but for only some reasons which the most important following...even though this odd thing cannot be explained by science or anything else like that I just believe that once we die..well its even hard to explain it in words but,I just dont think once you dissapear from life that the rest of the things you see is darkness in the sense you cannot do anything,its unimaginable to me,its almost like when all of us finally start our "true" life....but when you actually realize your alive which is by 4 or 5....and with the whole religous thing with ghosts....I believe its all about faith and what you believe,if you believe in it,then it might happen as a fantasy IF you pass onto something supernatural...but like I said before I just think its impossible for us once we die,to know when it happens...or what is going to happen...I just cant explain why or think anybody can explain why either,that is my oppinion.And for me proof isnt always the answer,maybe one day only seeing is believing

Mr. Marshmallow · 09-19-2006, 03:41 PM

Science is proof but then again, we invented the theories and everything behind science. Gave it names and everything. And if something exists (yes I am aware I'm using the word if), whether we believe it or not is irrelevant.

I can't explain how I am personally existing right now, or how anyone is, but I know we are existing. I don't think proof is necessary because your asking to prove something that in theoretical definotion is beyond proof.

The whole idea behind ghosts and spirits is that they exist beyond death, like god for example. God by scientific "proof" or evidence can't exist, but if he does exist then what good would science do you?

I am not doubting the authenticity of science or people, I am simply saying it's impossible to totally rule out every single possibility of it from every single person, expierence, and event. Because even if someone does show you proof, and you don't believe them, that doesn't mean there lying.

I also agree with G-man. If ghosts don't exist then what does that mean, we die and simply rot in the ground as bodies? We are complete nothingness and have no place or heaven or hell to go to?

G-man · 09-19-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow

Science is proof but then again, we invented the theories and everything behind science. Gave it names and everything. And if something exists (yes I am aware I'm using the word if), whether we believe it or not is irrelevant.

I can't explain how I am personally existing right now, or how anyone is, but I know we are existing. I don't think proof is necessary because your asking to prove something that in theoretical definotion is beyond proof.

The whole idea behind ghosts and spirits is that they exist beyond death, like god for example. God by scientific "proof" or evidence can't exist, but if he does exist then what good would science do you?

I am not doubting the authenticity of science or people, I am simply saying it's impossible to totally rule out the possibility of it. Because even if someone does show you proof, and you don't believe them, that doesn't mean there lying.

I completely agree with you,so much that I cannot add much more..

Cassini90125 · 09-19-2006, 03:50 PM

Okay, as this thread is heading into people's spiritual beliefs (as I knew it would), I'm temporarily closing it until the staff have a chance to discuss it. Sorry.

09-19-2006, 03:20 PM	#11
Mr. Marshmallow Not-So-Hopeless Romantic Gotta love being in love Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orland Park, IL Posts: 1,924	I believe in ghosts for the same reason I believe aliens exist, there's too much possibility in the world for things we know about and know nothing about. Everything we ever thought we know ends up changing at some point in time, sooner or later. I think it's possible because not everything requires proof. There is no proof in God, yet people believe he exists, there is no scientific proof we have souls, yet people believe in them as well. Just because we can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'm a firm believer in the fact that the world is too vast, big, and mysterious for us to be completely 100% sure we know what exists and what doesn't in every aspect of life. For people who believe in say angels or life after death, why is it so hard for people to believe a ghost can exist? The weird events we see, the shadows we see but then don't, not every spooky little event is someone's mind playing tricks on them or some kind of illusion caused by stress or drugs or stuff like that. I believe that we have souls and if we have souls, I believe that is in essence the human spirit. And if a spirit can exist inside a body then it can exist outside of a body as well. But that's just me. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicSlime http://www.fanfiction.net/~nukem999

09-19-2006, 03:32 PM	#12
Emma Foster's Legend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 771	Well, while that rational would make sense if you believed in souls -- and I agree that if you believe in souls/God/other supernatural stuff and not ghosts you're being a hypocrite. But I don't believe in any of that. I think everything does require proof. There will always be stuff that we don't understand -- but I think that deciding that such and such is true without prooving it will just prolong our ignorance. But again, that's just my opinion. __________________ "We're biased as heck, but we try to be honest." - Penn Jillette

09-19-2006, 03:36 PM	#14
G-man Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 511	simply I do believe in them,but for only some reasons which the most important following...even though this odd thing cannot be explained by science or anything else like that I just believe that once we die..well its even hard to explain it in words but,I just dont think once you dissapear from life that the rest of the things you see is darkness in the sense you cannot do anything,its unimaginable to me,its almost like when all of us finally start our "true" life....but when you actually realize your alive which is by 4 or 5....and with the whole religous thing with ghosts....I believe its all about faith and what you believe,if you believe in it,then it might happen as a fantasy IF you pass onto something supernatural...but like I said before I just think its impossible for us once we die,to know when it happens...or what is going to happen...I just cant explain why or think anybody can explain why either,that is my oppinion.And for me proof isnt always the answer,maybe one day only seeing is believing Last edited by G-man; 09-19-2006 at 03:38 PM.

09-19-2006, 03:41 PM	#15
Mr. Marshmallow Not-So-Hopeless Romantic Gotta love being in love Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orland Park, IL Posts: 1,924	Science is proof but then again, we invented the theories and everything behind science. Gave it names and everything. And if something exists (yes I am aware I'm using the word if), whether we believe it or not is irrelevant. I can't explain how I am personally existing right now, or how anyone is, but I know we are existing. I don't think proof is necessary because your asking to prove something that in theoretical definotion is beyond proof. The whole idea behind ghosts and spirits is that they exist beyond death, like god for example. God by scientific "proof" or evidence can't exist, but if he does exist then what good would science do you? I am not doubting the authenticity of science or people, I am simply saying it's impossible to totally rule out every single possibility of it from every single person, expierence, and event. Because even if someone does show you proof, and you don't believe them, that doesn't mean there lying. I also agree with G-man. If ghosts don't exist then what does that mean, we die and simply rot in the ground as bodies? We are complete nothingness and have no place or heaven or hell to go to? __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicSlime http://www.fanfiction.net/~nukem999 Last edited by Mr. Marshmallow; 09-19-2006 at 03:44 PM.

09-19-2006, 03:50 PM	#17
Cassini90125 The Postmaster Love gives you courage that's stronger than anything! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Saturn Posts: 6,645	Okay, as this thread is heading into people's spiritual beliefs (as I knew it would), I'm temporarily closing it until the staff have a chance to discuss it. Sorry. __________________ "Frankie! That weird kid is using a flower pot for a cup!" Sailor Moon. Best Anime EVER.