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Another Castle · 10-17-2009, 08:26 AM

That's what I thought I heard, but it confused me a bit because he isn't a real rabbit- he is an imaginary friend with the appearance and instincts of one, so would a real dog eat him?

Lynnie · 10-17-2009, 10:25 PM

Yeah, and a dog would certainly be able to tell the difference because a rabbit would have the smell and actions of "prey", while an IF, even if they look like one and have the same instincts, would smell completely different to a dog. And I doubt that scent would indicate "prey". Which is making me wonder something else- would an IF carry the scent of the human who created them, or do they have a scent all their own, like every other living animal? I'm thinking the latter, but since an IF is a "part" of their creator, maybe it's the prior.

The puppies and the big dog at the beginning of the episode certainly saw the IFs no differently than they did the humans, so to me it appears they already know that the IFs are more "alpha" than themselves. They didn't see the IFs as prey, or even playthings. They saw them just as they saw the humans- companions in the pack and someone who could feed them.

Cassini90125 · 10-17-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynnie

would an IF carry the scent of the human who created them, or do they have a scent all their own, like every other living animal? I'm thinking the latter, but since an IF is a "part" of their creator, maybe it's the prior.

Definitely the latter. There's simply no way that Louise could possibly have the same scent as Cheese.

Lynnie · 10-17-2009, 10:37 PM

Haha, good point.

But he may have originally carried her scent, and it just.. changed.. after he experienced life for a few hours. Or minutes.

Yeah, I'm still leaning more toward the latter too. Even children when first born carry a slightly different scent then their mother does. It's just the way living animals are made up. And in Foster's world, IFs are living "animals" of sorts (humans, too), so I'd think that rule of nature would apply to them too.

Major Abbey · 10-19-2009, 09:23 AM

Like I said earlier, I think it's just his natural instinct to be afraid of dogs. I know he's not a real rabbit, but he can obviously relate to them in some way (remember "Can't keep a good Mac down"?) so maybe he shares the same fears.

You've all made good points about how the dogs see - or smell - IFs, but I don't think Herriman knows that. He just sees a dog and instantly assumes it'll attack him just because he's a rabbit. The problem is not the dogs themselves, but his phobia of them, which is obviously very bad.

The whole episode really proves your point; the puppies weren't dangerous to IFs, and the first one (I can't remember its name, sorry) clearly got along with Eduardo, so they probably do see them as humans. Mr Herriman, on the other hand, sees them as a threat to his life because of his species ("someone has let loose hounds to destroy me!"), so he becomes terrified at the mere thought of one in the house. Put it this way; imagine you were trapped in a large place with someone - or something - who was trying to kill you. You'd hardly be very happy, would you? (and yes, I do know they weren't trying to kill him. I'm just seeing it from Herriman's point of view)

So, long story short; dogs aren't really a threat to IFs; it just depends on which species the IF is meant to be.

Another Castle · 03-28-2010, 05:47 AM

What outfits have we seen him wear altogether? There's of course the "classic" suit, his pjamers, a Victorian-era swimsuit (which is more old-fashioned that the home itself!), and his hippy suit (LYHD). Any others?

fosters-fan · 07-19-2012, 07:48 PM

To be honest, after rewatching Store Wars and Busted, I remember why Herriman isn't really my favorite character on the show. He calls Frankie a slacker when she's busting her butt doing all chores every single day! All he does is go around, marching around and giving orders like he's Napoleon or something!

Yeah, I know I'm gonna get the 'he's supposed to be bossy' answer, but he pretty much talks down to Frankie like it's his job. Oh, and remember this line from Destination: Imagination?

: Miss Frances, you are paid to cook and to clean, not for your naive and misguided opinions about imaginary friends!

I don't know about you, but I view that as not only talking down to Frankie, but just downright sexist!

taranchula · 07-19-2012, 08:23 PM

Herriman was pretty much the poster boy of those product of his/her time individuals, in his case being brought up during a time where it was socially acceptable in some circles to treat those working under you as just mere workers who must unquestionably do things to their standards. I personally always enjoyed how out of touch he was with most facets of the modern world.

As a small aside, I've recently played both of the Batman: Arkham games (Asylum and City) and I found it funny that Tom Kane who does the voice of Warden Sharpe pretty much does the same voice as Herriman. Which begs the question if given the choice who would be the worst to look after, Bloo or The Joker? I mean on one hand you have the living embodiment of pure malevolence and chaos, and on the other you have a guy in a purple suit. Tough call.

Cassini90125 · 07-19-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by taranchula

who would be the worst to look after, Bloo or The Joker? I mean on one hand you have the living embodiment of pure malevolence and chaos, and on the other you have a guy in a purple suit. Tough call.

That should be engraved on a plaque.

fosters-fan · 07-20-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by taranchula

Herriman was pretty much the poster boy of those product of his/her time individuals, in his case being brought up during a time where it was socially acceptable in some circles to treat those working under you as just mere workers who must unquestionably do things to their standards. I personally always enjoyed how out of touch he was with most facets of the modern world.

Yes, but times have changed. Herriman's comment towards Frankie about being paid to clean and cook and not for her opinions was still pretty sexist to me. If I were Frankie, I would sue Herriman for sexism, because I'm pretty sure being sexist at work can get you in legal trouble.

Also, if it was any other woman that Herriman talked down or made a sexist remark to, I'm sure she'd punch him square in the face and quit on the spot.

10-17-2009, 10:25 PM	#102
Lynnie Lady of Brightwood Dream maker, wherever you're going I'm going your way Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Emerald City, in the Evergreen State, where everything is GREEN Posts: 2,419	Yeah, and a dog would certainly be able to tell the difference because a rabbit would have the smell and actions of "prey", while an IF, even if they look like one and have the same instincts, would smell completely different to a dog. And I doubt that scent would indicate "prey". Which is making me wonder something else- would an IF carry the scent of the human who created them, or do they have a scent all their own, like every other living animal? I'm thinking the latter, but since an IF is a "part" of their creator, maybe it's the prior. The puppies and the big dog at the beginning of the episode certainly saw the IFs no differently than they did the humans, so to me it appears they already know that the IFs are more "alpha" than themselves. They didn't see the IFs as prey, or even playthings. They saw them just as they saw the humans- companions in the pack and someone who could feed them. __________________ MySpace-Facebook-LiveJournal-Y!Profile-Dragon Cave

10-17-2009, 10:37 PM	#104
Lynnie Lady of Brightwood Dream maker, wherever you're going I'm going your way Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Emerald City, in the Evergreen State, where everything is GREEN Posts: 2,419	Haha, good point. But he may have originally carried her scent, and it just.. changed.. after he experienced life for a few hours. Or minutes. Yeah, I'm still leaning more toward the latter too. Even children when first born carry a slightly different scent then their mother does. It's just the way living animals are made up. And in Foster's world, IFs are living "animals" of sorts (humans, too), so I'd think that rule of nature would apply to them too. __________________ MySpace-Facebook-LiveJournal-Y!Profile-Dragon Cave

10-19-2009, 09:23 AM	#105
Major Abbey Settling In Not a bunny butler! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 68	Like I said earlier, I think it's just his natural instinct to be afraid of dogs. I know he's not a real rabbit, but he can obviously relate to them in some way (remember "Can't keep a good Mac down"?) so maybe he shares the same fears. You've all made good points about how the dogs see - or smell - IFs, but I don't think Herriman knows that. He just sees a dog and instantly assumes it'll attack him just because he's a rabbit. The problem is not the dogs themselves, but his phobia of them, which is obviously very bad. The whole episode really proves your point; the puppies weren't dangerous to IFs, and the first one (I can't remember its name, sorry) clearly got along with Eduardo, so they probably do see them as humans. Mr Herriman, on the other hand, sees them as a threat to his life because of his species ("someone has let loose hounds to destroy me!"), so he becomes terrified at the mere thought of one in the house. Put it this way; imagine you were trapped in a large place with someone - or something - who was trying to kill you. You'd hardly be very happy, would you? (and yes, I do know they weren't trying to kill him. I'm just seeing it from Herriman's point of view) So, long story short; dogs aren't really a threat to IFs; it just depends on which species the IF is meant to be. __________________ "I'm Mr Herriman and I approve this message."

03-28-2010, 05:47 AM	#106
Another Castle At Home Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 238	What outfits have we seen him wear altogether? There's of course the "classic" suit, his pjamers, a Victorian-era swimsuit (which is more old-fashioned that the home itself!), and his hippy suit (LYHD). Any others? __________________ What do you mean our Princess is in...... Alpha November Oscar Tango Hotel Echo Romeo Charlie Alpha Sierra Tango Lima Echo

07-19-2012, 07:48 PM	#107
fosters-fan At Home Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 119	To be honest, after rewatching Store Wars and Busted, I remember why Herriman isn't really my favorite character on the show. He calls Frankie a slacker when she's busting her butt doing all chores every single day! All he does is go around, marching around and giving orders like he's Napoleon or something! Yeah, I know I'm gonna get the 'he's supposed to be bossy' answer, but he pretty much talks down to Frankie like it's his job. Oh, and remember this line from Destination: Imagination? : Miss Frances, you are paid to cook and to clean, not for your naive and misguided opinions about imaginary friends! I don't know about you, but I view that as not only talking down to Frankie, but just downright sexist! __________________ "I am a lover, not a fighter." -Eduardo, 'Eddie Monster'

10-17-2009, 08:26 AM	#101
Another Castle At Home Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 238	That's what I thought I heard, but it confused me a bit because he isn't a real rabbit- he is an imaginary friend with the appearance and instincts of one, so would a real dog eat him?

07-19-2012, 08:23 PM	#108
taranchula Agent: Deep Bloo You guys have your red headed cartoon crushes and I have mine! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Baconland...er I mean Canada. Posts: 2,773	Herriman was pretty much the poster boy of those product of his/her time individuals, in his case being brought up during a time where it was socially acceptable in some circles to treat those working under you as just mere workers who must unquestionably do things to their standards. I personally always enjoyed how out of touch he was with most facets of the modern world. As a small aside, I've recently played both of the Batman: Arkham games (Asylum and City) and I found it funny that Tom Kane who does the voice of Warden Sharpe pretty much does the same voice as Herriman. Which begs the question if given the choice who would be the worst to look after, Bloo or The Joker? I mean on one hand you have the living embodiment of pure malevolence and chaos, and on the other you have a guy in a purple suit. Tough call. __________________ Founder, Owner, President, Chairman, CEO, CFO and Charter member of the "Never Leave Steve" Fan Club! ~Founded: May 21 2006~ Last edited by taranchula; 07-19-2012 at 08:24 PM.