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xxxClaire · 11-21-2007, 01:04 PM

So then it's not gonna be in theaters?

vinny · 11-21-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxClaire

So then it's not gonna be in theaters?

it doesnt look like it. it wouldnt sell cus people can just watch it on TV

Bloonan · 11-21-2007, 02:55 PM

It isn't on yet in my area of living.

vinny · 11-21-2007, 06:04 PM

OMG THAT WAS SO AWESOME! ima watch it again. did you guys see him beat up all thoes bad guys that was so cool!

EDIT:
*rembers he's 18*
indeed. i found this picture most compelling on all behalfs, and this " Benjamin" child of sort, found his assignment of saving th world and shuch "indispensable" if you will. brilliant! quite the brave sole i must say.

Diamond Duchess · 11-21-2007, 07:14 PM

I'm not able to see this movie since I don't have cable: I really want to, though.

Whoever got to see it has to tell about it. I want to know if it's any good.

While I like the concept initially, I'm not sure it'll work in live-action. And from what I've seen, I may be right for thinking so and for liking cartoon Ben better than the live-action one. Just a hunch, however.

Crash-N-Cortex · 11-22-2007, 04:40 PM

The movie was good, I was amazed when some of the people of Bellwood were plumbers. I seemed to like how Grey Matter made a mess of things at the restaurant, though his voice is a bit weird. Wildmutt has the same-voice actor as in the cartoon Ben-10.

ptps · 11-23-2007, 06:01 AM

I saw the advertisements for it and I was really impressed with the 3D aliens, even though I'd watched the cartoons a couple times and hated it. I thought the movie would be really good, maybe even better than the cartoon.

I was wrong.

The villain doesn't even cause any damage to the heroes. What are those spheres of light for, decoration?! Urgh. And the ending was so, so... SO cheesy. Overall story was incredibly lame as well. Then again I guess this is aimed toward the younger audiences, so... yeah. It felt like an Animorphs/Power Rangers/Ultraman mix.

Just... Urgh.

Chocolate Milk · 11-23-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vinny

THE BEN TEN MOVIE IS ON RIGHT NOW, GO WATCH IT

Mr. Marshmallow · 11-23-2007, 05:33 PM

Okay, I finally got around to watching it after I timer taped it and let be warn people there will be some spoilers in here but I won't bother with spoiler tags because this isn't THAT kind of a movie you have to worry about being spoiled on. Being a big Ben 10 fan, I actually had some hope for this movie.

Despite how obviously bad the concept sounded I was still interested, unfortunately, the movie turned out exactly as it sounded: a bad idea. Sometimes the special effects were okay, other times it just looked sloppy. The idea of a live Ben 10 movie is one that should NOT be handled by CN ever.

For a network that created its own show and made a movie about it, they sure didn't seem to know what they were doing. I'm a detailed person so expect this to be a long review. First off, the actors for this were not exactly the best. Pretty much everyone was weak, anemic, and a poor example of their cartoon counterparts.

Graham Phillips genuinely seemed like he was trying to "be Ben". The one liners, the attitude, he really seemed like he was trying to be a good Ben but he ultimately sucked at it. He didn't give any life or the "shine" Ben had in the show and the fact they actually made him forget who the Plumbers were is an insult.

Ben's no genius but he's not THAT stupid, I felt that was a bad portrayal of his character. Now for Gwen, the WORST CHARACTER ever! Haley Ramm may look like Gwen with that red hair, but she practically breezed through this film. She put on a pissy, crappy, half assed attempt at "acting" and was practically emotionless.

None of her sass between her cousin existed, her magic powers didn't show up, they had her trademark outfit on for like 3 MINUTES! Which really upset me because I liked her outfit from the show and felt it fit her well. And most annoyingly, she ruined a perfectly well written climax for Gwen's character.

Towards the end of the movie, Gwen makes this big speech and I loved seeing her character enter those emotional moments in the show but this kid just totally pissed the emotion away with a dry performance. The only and I mean ONLY one character from the show who fit dead on was Lee Majors as Grandpa Max.

If a big budget movie comes around, I hope he's cast again because he was excellent. He got the voice, the attitude, and the warmth of Grandpa down to a tee. Now for the new characters: Eon and Ben;s parents. Eon (the movie's villain) was the only neat new thing they brought in, he was a neat character.

His design was cool to look at, I liked his voice, and he was quite compelling as a sort of honorable villain who cared more about his people then himself and despite still being a bastard, he had more going for him then most of Ben's usual villains. However, Ben's parents proved to be one of the biggest let downs.

The show NEVER showed them or said their names and to see them like this, feels like a weak attempt to give them faces. They are played down to cliche hippie, "emotional growth" parents who don't seem like Ben at all. I was hoping for a bigger surprise considering Ben's parents have been a total mystery, and this just felt like a lame attempt.

The whole town being Plumbers I felt was a stupid thing. It ruined the mystique of the Plumbers by making it seem this is so "destiny" like having Ben's hometown being the last refuge of the Plumbers. I felt it was a weak attempt to try and tie Ben's future with his hometown very unnecessary.

The story itself was average, it was all right and they had some neat new tricks by having Eon reveal secrets about the watch (although quite confusing ones). But even the big "weapon" the "hands of Armageddon", not only sounded stupid but was stupid, it felt like a cheap plot device with little thought behind its existence or use.

The movie tries to make it sound more important by giving us lame tie ins to famous landmarks and incidents (grand canyon, Chicago fire etc). Finally, we reach the aliens. All of them looked pretty good actually despite how few they appeared. Wild Mutt probably looked the worst, it looked like his body was CGI but his mouth was regular animation.

Diamondhead was probably the best looking and sounding, Gray Matter looked great but sounded like some sort of mentally challenged clown then his usual cool smart sounding voice. The movie's music scored well, it all sounded like the shows themes and sounds so at least they got one thing right.

But the biggest problem with this movie with me is: its a new story. CN originally said this movie doesn't connect to the show at all, yet the movie clearly takes place AFTER the summer Ben started on so in a sense, after the show. They mention things from the series to make it seem like its connected.

Yet the idea of making a NEW story proved to be too stupid an idea. Because this is a low budget CN original movie, they have would have been better off doing a LIVE retelling of when Ben first found the Omnitrix rather then creating a whole new story with new characters, villains, and plot devices to the show.

Not to mention actually having someone die with a decaying skeleton was a surprise for this kind of film. In the end, "Ben 10: Race against time" clearly bit off more then it can chew and didn't think this through. A few nice ideas and a great live Grandpa Max don't excuse 90 minutes of poor planning, crap acting, and a sloppy story which inevitably reminds of what Carl said in "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" after they surgically turned him to a woman:

"You're right.....this was a very bad idea"

Diamond Duchess · 11-25-2007, 07:53 AM

I'm with the general population on how this movie was: It was a bad idea.

I initially believed the concept of Ben 10 was better suited for the cartoon, and it turns out I was right. Though it could have been more entertaining if it were better executed, no such luck here. After seeing the movie for the first time last night, here are my thoughts on the subject.

1. The acting for this movie was hard to watch. Everybody, excluding Grandpa Max, seemed stiff and uninterested. The kids playing Ben and Gwen seemed unexperienced and whiny, but that's just me.

2. The villian here did not seem like a major threat compared to the other villians featured on the show. During my viewing of the film, I just felt like snarking him in general: his appearance, what he did, how he did it, etc.

3. The movie's plot seemed uneven in the Ben 10 canon. It just didn't fit well.

4. Despite my other compliants regarding the film, I will say that I liked the alien work. The aliens looked great in 3-D, and they worked well. Other than that, however, everything else in the film was unsettling and akward.

As for the whole film, I'd stick with this show as a cartoon, thank you very much. Maybe this film should be percieved as a cautionary tale for future Cartoon Network live-action endeavors: Don't make existing cartoon programs into live-action. Just don't.

I am aware that I may be regurgitating the opinions of the general population of this forum by stating this, but I feel it had to be said. Cartoons to live-action usually doesn't work for many cartoons, and the concept should be put to rest for awhile to favor more original concepts that preferabably stick to one medium only.

11-21-2007, 01:04 PM	#11
xxxClaire Teenage Wasteland Live everyday like you're Glen Coco. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Bark Town Posts: 617	So then it's not gonna be in theaters? __________________ ?------?------? ? Long Live Jeremiah ?

11-21-2007, 06:04 PM	#14
vinny The real mac. NO U Join Date: May 2006 Location: STATUS: deported :( Posts: 443	OMG THAT WAS SO AWESOME! ima watch it again. did you guys see him beat up all thoes bad guys that was so cool! EDIT: rembers he's 18 indeed. i found this picture most compelling on all behalfs, and this " Benjamin" child of sort, found his assignment of saving th world and shuch "indispensable" if you will. brilliant! quite the brave sole i must say. __________________ V come play DDR with me V Last edited by vinny; 11-21-2007 at 06:31 PM.

11-22-2007, 04:40 PM	#16
Crash-N-Cortex Permanent Resident I'm back with my Chimchar! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Barstow, California Posts: 389	The movie was good, I was amazed when some of the people of Bellwood were plumbers. I seemed to like how Grey Matter made a mess of things at the restaurant, though his voice is a bit weird. Wildmutt has the same-voice actor as in the cartoon Ben-10. __________________ "Talking don't pay the rent, nay!" - Kaz (Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi)

11-23-2007, 06:01 AM	#17
ptps At Home Best Friends Forever Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 199	I saw the advertisements for it and I was really impressed with the 3D aliens, even though I'd watched the cartoons a couple times and hated it. I thought the movie would be really good, maybe even better than the cartoon. I was wrong. The villain doesn't even cause any damage to the heroes. What are those spheres of light for, decoration?! Urgh. And the ending was so, so... SO cheesy. Overall story was incredibly lame as well. Then again I guess this is aimed toward the younger audiences, so... yeah. It felt like an Animorphs/Power Rangers/Ultraman mix. Just... Urgh. __________________ PTPS's Foster's Rakugaki Join the Foster's ART JAM!

11-23-2007, 05:33 PM	#19
Mr. Marshmallow Not-So-Hopeless Romantic Gotta love being in love Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orland Park, IL Posts: 1,924	Okay, I finally got around to watching it after I timer taped it and let be warn people there will be some spoilers in here but I won't bother with spoiler tags because this isn't THAT kind of a movie you have to worry about being spoiled on. Being a big Ben 10 fan, I actually had some hope for this movie. Despite how obviously bad the concept sounded I was still interested, unfortunately, the movie turned out exactly as it sounded: a bad idea. Sometimes the special effects were okay, other times it just looked sloppy. The idea of a live Ben 10 movie is one that should NOT be handled by CN ever. For a network that created its own show and made a movie about it, they sure didn't seem to know what they were doing. I'm a detailed person so expect this to be a long review. First off, the actors for this were not exactly the best. Pretty much everyone was weak, anemic, and a poor example of their cartoon counterparts. Graham Phillips genuinely seemed like he was trying to "be Ben". The one liners, the attitude, he really seemed like he was trying to be a good Ben but he ultimately sucked at it. He didn't give any life or the "shine" Ben had in the show and the fact they actually made him forget who the Plumbers were is an insult. Ben's no genius but he's not THAT stupid, I felt that was a bad portrayal of his character. Now for Gwen, the WORST CHARACTER ever! Haley Ramm may look like Gwen with that red hair, but she practically breezed through this film. She put on a pissy, crappy, half assed attempt at "acting" and was practically emotionless. None of her sass between her cousin existed, her magic powers didn't show up, they had her trademark outfit on for like 3 MINUTES! Which really upset me because I liked her outfit from the show and felt it fit her well. And most annoyingly, she ruined a perfectly well written climax for Gwen's character. Towards the end of the movie, Gwen makes this big speech and I loved seeing her character enter those emotional moments in the show but this kid just totally pissed the emotion away with a dry performance. The only and I mean ONLY one character from the show who fit dead on was Lee Majors as Grandpa Max. If a big budget movie comes around, I hope he's cast again because he was excellent. He got the voice, the attitude, and the warmth of Grandpa down to a tee. Now for the new characters: Eon and Ben;s parents. Eon (the movie's villain) was the only neat new thing they brought in, he was a neat character. His design was cool to look at, I liked his voice, and he was quite compelling as a sort of honorable villain who cared more about his people then himself and despite still being a bastard, he had more going for him then most of Ben's usual villains. However, Ben's parents proved to be one of the biggest let downs. The show NEVER showed them or said their names and to see them like this, feels like a weak attempt to give them faces. They are played down to cliche hippie, "emotional growth" parents who don't seem like Ben at all. I was hoping for a bigger surprise considering Ben's parents have been a total mystery, and this just felt like a lame attempt. The whole town being Plumbers I felt was a stupid thing. It ruined the mystique of the Plumbers by making it seem this is so "destiny" like having Ben's hometown being the last refuge of the Plumbers. I felt it was a weak attempt to try and tie Ben's future with his hometown very unnecessary. The story itself was average, it was all right and they had some neat new tricks by having Eon reveal secrets about the watch (although quite confusing ones). But even the big "weapon" the "hands of Armageddon", not only sounded stupid but was stupid, it felt like a cheap plot device with little thought behind its existence or use. The movie tries to make it sound more important by giving us lame tie ins to famous landmarks and incidents (grand canyon, Chicago fire etc). Finally, we reach the aliens. All of them looked pretty good actually despite how few they appeared. Wild Mutt probably looked the worst, it looked like his body was CGI but his mouth was regular animation. Diamondhead was probably the best looking and sounding, Gray Matter looked great but sounded like some sort of mentally challenged clown then his usual cool smart sounding voice. The movie's music scored well, it all sounded like the shows themes and sounds so at least they got one thing right. But the biggest problem with this movie with me is: its a new story. CN originally said this movie doesn't connect to the show at all, yet the movie clearly takes place AFTER the summer Ben started on so in a sense, after the show. They mention things from the series to make it seem like its connected. Yet the idea of making a NEW story proved to be too stupid an idea. Because this is a low budget CN original movie, they have would have been better off doing a LIVE retelling of when Ben first found the Omnitrix rather then creating a whole new story with new characters, villains, and plot devices to the show. Not to mention actually having someone die with a decaying skeleton was a surprise for this kind of film. In the end, "Ben 10: Race against time" clearly bit off more then it can chew and didn't think this through. A few nice ideas and a great live Grandpa Max don't excuse 90 minutes of poor planning, crap acting, and a sloppy story which inevitably reminds of what Carl said in "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" after they surgically turned him to a woman: "You're right.....this was a very bad idea" __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicSlime http://www.fanfiction.net/~nukem999 Last edited by Mr. Marshmallow; 11-23-2007 at 05:33 PM.

11-21-2007, 02:55 PM	#13
Bloonan Banned No sudden movements... I'm watching you. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the dark corner of my room, with my computer and my video games. Posts: 259	It isn't on yet in my area of living.

11-21-2007, 07:14 PM	#15
Diamond Duchess Banned I love chocolate cake, I like pencil erasers, too... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Amarillo, Texas Posts: 161	I'm not able to see this movie since I don't have cable: I really want to, though. Whoever got to see it has to tell about it. I want to know if it's any good. While I like the concept initially, I'm not sure it'll work in live-action. And from what I've seen, I may be right for thinking so and for liking cartoon Ben better than the live-action one. Just a hunch, however.

11-25-2007, 07:53 AM	#20
Diamond Duchess Banned I love chocolate cake, I like pencil erasers, too... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Amarillo, Texas Posts: 161	I'm with the general population on how this movie was: It was a bad idea. I initially believed the concept of Ben 10 was better suited for the cartoon, and it turns out I was right. Though it could have been more entertaining if it were better executed, no such luck here. After seeing the movie for the first time last night, here are my thoughts on the subject. 1. The acting for this movie was hard to watch. Everybody, excluding Grandpa Max, seemed stiff and uninterested. The kids playing Ben and Gwen seemed unexperienced and whiny, but that's just me. 2. The villian here did not seem like a major threat compared to the other villians featured on the show. During my viewing of the film, I just felt like snarking him in general: his appearance, what he did, how he did it, etc. 3. The movie's plot seemed uneven in the Ben 10 canon. It just didn't fit well. 4. Despite my other compliants regarding the film, I will say that I liked the alien work. The aliens looked great in 3-D, and they worked well. Other than that, however, everything else in the film was unsettling and akward. As for the whole film, I'd stick with this show as a cartoon, thank you very much. Maybe this film should be percieved as a cautionary tale for future Cartoon Network live-action endeavors: Don't make existing cartoon programs into live-action. Just don't. I am aware that I may be regurgitating the opinions of the general population of this forum by stating this, but I feel it had to be said. Cartoons to live-action usually doesn't work for many cartoons, and the concept should be put to rest for awhile to favor more original concepts that preferabably stick to one medium only.