Wilt

[antgirl1]

I think this thread just died...RIP?

What do you think he usually dreams in his sleep? The good ones? What about nightmares? (Of course one of the dreams would be shooting hoops. XD)

[pitbulllady]

Originally Posted by antgirl1

I think this thread just died...RIP?

What do you think he usually dreams in his sleep? The good ones? What about nightmares? (Of course one of the dreams would be shooting hoops. XD)

I'm sure that Wilt DOES dream, since even animals like rats and lizards exhibit REM(Rapid Eye Movement)sleep patterns, which are normally associate with dreaming. The nature of his dreams is anyone's guess. People tend to have dreams that are based on past experiences, or upcoming important events, although their dreams can be so abstract as to be nearly impossible to pin down their origin/cause. Wilt has been harboring a lot of really negative emotions stemming from his own guilt and physical pain he's been though, pent up inside, so it would not surprise me if he'd been tormented by some really horrendous nightmares. It's kinda surprising that he is able to easily fall asleep at all, for that matter, given what must have been on his mind when he went to bed. You can hide unpleasant thoughts and put them aside during the day by staying active, mentally and physically, but at night they are more difficult to deal with. Like most people, he probably does not recall most of his dreams, though, and has those "out there" dreams that he can't explain, just like we sometimes do.

One of the things I noticed about one of the screen caps you posted, the one showing Wilt asleep, is that he had his arm hanging off the bed, and slept right at the very edge of the bed. I've read that people who often sleep like this are subconciously trying to escape from something, and extending that arm or a leg out over the edge of the bed indicates that they are trying to pull themselves away from something unpleasant, or that they're reaching out for help beyond their everyday existance in dealing with a problem. That would make sense, given Wilt's past, wouldn't it? I hope that he can finally discard some of that burden of guilt and self-loathing he's secretly harbored, now that the secret isnt' secret anymore, and he knows his creator forgives him and cares for him still, though it's got to be hard to break habits that have been 30 years in developing.

pitbulllady

[Foster's Geek 287]

Originally Posted by FostersFriend

Helpful, cind, tall, imaginary. These four words are some of many used to describe Wilt.

Well, no... Cind is not a word...

[Zeitgheist]

I must be the only one who doesn't like Wilt

I mean, I don't have anything against him, I just don't connect with him.... I suppose I'm a heartless jerk XD The only time he made me smile was when he screamed "NOOOOOOO!!" when Bloo drove him over the edge on the couch about those damn chips, and in Squeeze The Day when Wilt had somehow ruined the entire day at the beach (how!? XD damn those you'll-never-know moments)

[pitbulllady]

People who connect with Bloo tend to either dislike Wilt, or just prefer him as background. Wilt and Bloo are polar opposites, and it's hard to relate to one and still like the other. Me, I barely can tolerate Bloo, and that's only because he does have some funny lines. If I actually had to spend, like 10 minutes with him, I'd probably wind up hurting him, which is ironic, since I myself tend to be insensitive at times, though nowhere near the extreme that Bloo is, and I'm not much like Wilt at all, personality-wise. Wilt represents maturity and responsibility, though, things which I, as an adult, respect, and things which many people find reason to rebel against. Bloo is totally opposed to those things, so I cannot relate to him. Still, I don't like it when Bloo is in any danger, or gets hurt, or is threatened in some fashion. I don't get any pleasure from seeing him suffer, unless he totally brought it on himself. I felt sorry for him in "Blooooooooo!" when he had that rotten cold, and when he got mad and gave Chuck away in "Bloo's the Boss", then realized he'd gotten rid of something he really cared about. I felt bad for him in "Sweet Stench of Success", even though he DID bring that on himself! I would have to absolutely hate a character to actually want to see that character suffer and to get pleasure from their pain, and there's no one on this show that I despise that much, not even a certain IF from you know...that place up there...with the bacon. Bendy MIGHT be an exception, though, but I guess he's probably got a legitimate reason for acting like he does, and he did seem genuinely distressed at being separated from his kid, so I really can't comprehend someone enjoying seeing one of the characters put in a really unpleasant situation. To each their own I guess...

pitbulllady

[Ub3rD4n]

Well, I love both Bloo AND Wilt! In fact, it was difficult to decide which was my favourite. Bloo has the crazy, good-times manic edge to him which I so love, and Wilt has the comedically-good-natured thing down pat, which I felt was awesome and proves you don't need to either a) be a jerk or b) get hassled to be funny. In the end, Wilt won because Bloo is a jerk, and even I have a hard time tolerating him some times. I suppose you could put it down to the fact that Bloo is very close to being me, I'm self-centred (not the same as selfish) and a bit crazy at times, but Wilt is more of a character I wish I could be more like: confident, athletic, charismatic, TALL and very, very giving.

So, although PitbullLady was right, I like to prove exceptions to things.

[Zeitgheist]

I think you both have excellent points

It's the cliché, but, yes, Bloo is closer to my personality. But most of that is because he's a gamer like me, and I take some enjoyment in that (like seeing him play that game during all of Emancification Complication). Bloo has never inspired me in any ways, it just NICE to see a character who's so insensitive and doesn't have a care in the world like him. That's why I love cartoons <3

Wilt is funny because his good nature is so often being joked around with, but it still gives me unpleasant shivers down my spine everytime he apologizes. I'm one of those who're too proud to apologize or simply can not feel guilt (my shrink says it's because I have asperger, but, I like to think that I'm broken )

But neither of these characters are my favorite. That place belongs to Mac. Bloo has never annoyed me, and probably never will, it's just that he's too close to me that I get bored. Mac has the qualities that I want. Intelligent, calm, easily paranoid and manipulated by others (it's a good quality!)

[antgirl1]

It's good to find someone who doesn't like Wilt, but can still tolerate him to some extent. I have seen others on TV.com and DA, where people not only dislike Wilt, but want to actually...destroy him, and worst is, its really hard to find out why, other than he is "too nice", or some other stupid reason. People like that can have their opinions, but they shouldn't just randomly barge into the Wilt thread and bash him for no reason, saying how much he sucks like heck and say how much cooler another character is. That just really hurts the Wilt fans' feelings and angers them for such things.

But, the basher likes the attention anyway.

[pitbulllady]

Originally Posted by Zeitgheist

I think you both have excellent points

It's the cliché, but, yes, Bloo is closer to my personality. But most of that is because he's a gamer like me, and I take some enjoyment in that (like seeing him play that game during all of Emancification Complication). Bloo has never inspired me in any ways, it just NICE to see a character who's so insensitive and doesn't have a care in the world like him. That's why I love cartoons <3

Wilt is funny because his good nature is so often being joked around with, but it still gives me unpleasant shivers down my spine everytime he apologizes. I'm one of those who're too proud to apologize or simply can not feel guilt (my shrink says it's because I have asperger, but, I like to think that I'm broken )

But neither of these characters are my favorite. That place belongs to Mac. Bloo has never annoyed me, and probably never will, it's just that he's too close to me that I get bored. Mac has the qualities that I want. Intelligent, calm, easily paranoid and manipulated by others (it's a good quality!)

Bloo is more like a very young child. Little kids believe that the universe revolves around THEM, and everyone in it exists to serve THEIR needs and wants. They do what they feel like doing, and often don't feel remorse when they do something wrong. Most child psychologists do not believe that children really develope the capacity to feel guilt, or to empathize with others, until they are five or six years old. Bloo DOES express guilt from time to time, but it's more like a nuisance that pops up every now and then, like a wart or something. In that respect, I don't see Bloo as "broken" at all, but as an example of pure ID. Wilt and Mac both are more similar to each other than either is to Bloo, with the difference being that Mac is still a kid and does, from time to time, "regress" back to more simpler and guilt-free childhood pleasures, like sabataging Duchess' tea party. Wilt, on the other hand, is the one who IS most definately "broken"-not so much physically, as he believes, but emotionally. Instead of blythly ignoring guilt, he's let it be his universe for the past 30 years, and it's nearly destroyed him. That was the whole point of having him undergo increasing "breakdowns" and erratic behavior in the past season, leading up to Good Wilt Hunting-to show his increasingly damaged status as all that guilt began to force its way to the surface, like magma rising in the neck of a long-dormant volcano, threatening to eventually explode, taking the entire mountain with it. I am sometimes bothered a bit when the show's writers seem to overuse Wilt's trademark "Sorry", but I understand now why he does that; it's an expression of all the guilt and remorse and pain he's kept hidden inside for all those years. All that time, knowing who his creator was, and being ashamed to even tell anyone, not even those closest to him. I would sorta hope that they'd tone down the chronic, gratuitous use of the "sorry's" now that Wilt seems to have finally started resolving his issues, and show some other sides to him, like that mischievous, somewhat-twisted humorous side as seen in "Nightmare On Wilson Way", or that fanatic "sports dad" side seen in the end credits of the movie, or that take-charge side displayed in "Eddie Monster", what "The Dog Whisperer" Cesar Milan would refer to as "calm, assertive discipline", when Wilt most non-apologetically back-handed Bloo upside the head! Wilt proved in GWH that he's very articulate and CAN speak in whole paragraphs without apologizing, and it's like from time to time we get those little glimpses of "the real Wilt", as he was before that ill-fated game 30 years ago, as opposed to the "broken" emotional shell he's become.

pitbulllady

[Vampyre]

Originally Posted by Ub3rD4n

Well, I love both Bloo AND Wilt! In fact, it was difficult to decide which was my favourite. Bloo has the crazy, good-times manic edge to him which I so love, and Wilt has the comedically-good-natured thing down pat, which I felt was awesome and proves you don't need to either a) be a jerk or b) get hassled to be funny. In the end, Wilt won because Bloo is a jerk, and even I have a hard time tolerating him some times. I suppose you could put it down to the fact that Bloo is very close to being me, I'm self-centred (not the same as selfish) and a bit crazy at times, but Wilt is more of a character I wish I could be more like: confident, athletic, charismatic, TALL and very, very giving.

So, although PitbullLady was right, I like to prove exceptions to things.

I'm the same as you are; I love Wilt to absolute pieces, but I'm quite attatched to Bloo as well. I just don't show that round to much. For a month or so, when Season Two episodes were getting a bit old and there wasn't going to be any new episodes for a LONG time, there was a point I went off Wilt and started to like Bloo a lot more. I mean I still liked him, but his usual, dissapointingly small parts made me like Bloo more. Out of sight, out of mind, I suppose *shrugs* I feel bad about it sometimes, which I know is kinda stupid, but, you know, Wilt desreves all the love he can get, man...