Episode discussion: "Emaciation Complication" 11/10/06 - Page 3 - Never Forgotten: a Foster's Home Community

pitbulllady · 11-10-2006, 04:29 PM

I guess I can be glad I didn't read the Cartoon Network thingie in much detail this time, since I was not expecting Mac and Frankie to team up and save the day, though I would have expected Mac to try and right a situation that he caused, albeit inadvertently.

I can see the issue, though, with the selling of the Imaginary Friends, the forcing them to work for nothing, and the overcrowding in the house. In that respect, they were being treated just like slaves, and therein lies the irony. The REAL Abraham Lincoln, through his Emancipation Proclamation, FREED all the human slaves in the US, while this Lincoln turned other Imaginary Friends into slaves, for his own profit!

One thing that this episode DOES show, though, is that Imaginary Friends are far from being just extensions of a child's personality and thoughts, and that they are not all childlike, not at all! Little Lincoln surely did not pick up the idea of selling other Imaginary Friends, taking over an old lady's house and fortune, and turning it into a gambling casino from some elementary school kid, and his reaction to that bikini-clad lady on the ballpoint pen was FAR from childlike and innocent!

pitbulllady

bloonuggets · 11-10-2006, 04:29 PM

And the screencaps will be up by the end of the weekend, Spark?

CG · 11-10-2006, 04:33 PM

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And the screencaps will be up by the end of the weekend, Spark?

They'll be up when she can do them, bloonuggets. One time it took her much longer to get screengrabs up.

lucyrocks73 · 11-10-2006, 04:33 PM

Well... I sort of half watched it... I taped it on the ReplayTv (a TiVo-esque thing) though, so I'll fully analyze it tomorrow. I'd watch it now, but my little brother is glued to the TV because of the SpongeBob movie.

I MISSED THE MUSICAL NUMBER!!! Anyone who knows me can say that is the first of ANYTHING. I also missed the Lightning McQueen cameo... I'll look for that...

From what I DID pay attention to, it was an okay episode. The closet. Ha.

Everything happens in a closet, I swear. Ha.

I always knew that Mac's big heart would be out to get him some day...

And no Goo (as much as I love her, I needed a break... I hate when they overuse her...), which made me happy. Next week's ep shall keep my eyes glued to the screen.

-Marty

One Radical Dude · 11-10-2006, 04:37 PM

It was a good episode, though I have to say it was a step backwards from last week's. First, what I didn't like. I, too, was anticipating this one to be more of a Mac and Frankie-centered episode (according to the description from Cartoon Network's website), and it wasn't quite there. That took a bit of enjoyment out of the episode. Also, I wish Frankie and Herriman would've put up more of a fight vs. Lincoln and Moose. Really, that's about it, though it was enough for me to lower my grade of the episode.

What did I like? I loved the first act quite a bit. I enjoyed Bloo's Daffy Duck-esque act in Mac's classroom, and Bloo's obsession with the video game. I really loved the musical bit in this one. It was great to hear some of the IFs use their vocal talent there. I hope to see another in the future.

I loved Herriman's first lady line there.

I must that that Lincoln's design is unique and I wasn't expecting him to be so small. I also loved how Madame Foster used Lincoln at the final act of the episode.

Overall, this isn't a favorite episode, and I had hoped it would've been better. I have to give it a B-. One more Season Four episode left, and we have the movie coming up in a few weeks.

montitech · 11-10-2006, 04:38 PM

I do not think it was a LIE. However the episode description on CN was posted back at the begining of the year. mont likely before the episode was even finished.

All the friends were sold. (eccept for Boo and Mr H)
and both Mac and Frankie (seperatly) discovered that Little Lincon was Bad.
So it basically was up to Mac and Frankie to save the day. and it was unexpected that bloo actually came to save the day.

Monty

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Mr. M,

The thing is, it wasn't TV.com(a place edited by the fans, and thus can sometimes be inaccurate) that proposed the whole Mac/Frankie thing. It was CartoonNetwork.com, which is supposed to be the OFFICIAL SOURCE. It said OUTRIGHTLY that "it's up to Mac and Frankie to thwart his evil plans and take back the house", as if they would be the clear focus.

THEY LIED. And that, quite frankly, upsets me. Not only because I was personally hoping that Mac and Frankie would get a chance to truly shine for once; but also because it doesn't say much good when a major legitimate corporation like Cartoon Network can do that and get away with it completely.

I enjoyed the episode very much, don't get me wrong. But it doesn't change the fact that I'm feeling a little betrayed by what was supposed to be an OFFICIAL SOURCE.

Cassini90125 · 11-10-2006, 04:54 PM

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I couldn't help but notice Frankie in a night gown when Mac brought Moose and Little Lincoln back.

Not surprisingly.....she's still hot!

Yeah, I noticed that, too. Same one as in "Squeakerboxxx", I think, and the same one her Sim uses. Very hot in every case.

Voxxyn · 11-10-2006, 05:29 PM

Just a question: WHY are people here complaining about how Frankie and Mr. Herriman "didn't do much" to stop Lincoln and Moose?

Considering how her role in the episode didn't turn out to be as big as CN.com said, I think Frankie did everything she could to try and stop them. Were you REALLY expecting her to effortlessly take down a huge ogre like Moose on her own? It would've been awesome, and could've been plausible if we saw her using her wits and brain... but seeing as how the episode's structure turned out to be different than I and some others expected, she did the best she could.

And I thought it was hilarious how someone like Mr. Herriman COMPLETELY surrendered to them, and briefly became a maid.

Mr. Marshmallow · 11-10-2006, 05:34 PM

I totally buy Herriman bowing out and surrendering. He's an old fuddy duddy and someone who's stuck in the old ways of doing things. Herriman is also a neat freak and very structured, if one TINY thing goes out of order, it throws him totally off balance.

Unlike Bloo and the others, Herriman doesn't respond well to pressure and he usually breaks down when bad things happen. Like in "Camp keep a good Mac down" and "World Wide Wabbit", and of course "Crime after crime". Face it, he's no pillar of strength.

Frankie also did state she had a problem with this. You could see it on her face during the whole musical number, and she did say she doubted this during the song itself. But again realistically, this proves the whole point of how good these villains really were.

How often does Foster's run into people like these? Dylan and Berry were more like social pests or nusiances, they weren't down right rotten like these two. Little Lincoln is smart enough to think things out, and Moose did what he was IMAGINED to do.

Frankie can only do so much, and she did, there's no one in Foster's who's strong enough to beat out someone like Moose. And with everyone sold out to their jobs and left overs included just Frankie, Mac, and Herriman, it's no surprise they couldn't do a whole lot.

CCMars · 11-10-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Voxxyn

Mr. M,

The thing is, it wasn't TV.com(a place edited by the fans, and thus can sometimes be inaccurate) that proposed the whole Mac/Frankie thing. It was CartoonNetwork.com, which is supposed to be the OFFICIAL SOURCE. It said OUTRIGHTLY that "it's up to Mac and Frankie to thwart his evil plans and take back the house", as if they would be the clear focus.

THEY LIED. And that, quite frankly, upsets me. Not only because I was personally hoping that Mac and Frankie would get a chance to truly shine for once; but also because it doesn't say much good when a major legitimate corporation like Cartoon Network can do that and get away with it completely.

I enjoyed the episode very much, don't get me wrong. But it doesn't change the fact that I'm feeling a little betrayed by what was supposed to be an OFFICIAL SOURCE.

You're over-reacting. Frankie and Mac DID have a big part in this episode. Sure, it wasn't them alone that saved the day, but they had a huge role in it nonetheless.

As for me, I honestly got bored with this episode. Abraham Lincoln and Moose made great villains, Bloo and his game were great, and the ending credits were funny (save for that little interruption by the Friday Boxheads

), but at most I think this episode was okay.

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11-10-2006, 04:29 PM	#22
bloonuggets Take a bow, Bloo. You deserve it. FHfIF: 8/11/04 - 5/3/09 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philly (There is NO East Philly for the record) Posts: 755	And the screencaps will be up by the end of the weekend, Spark? __________________ Editor of tv.com's FHFIF pages Thank you Craig for the ride. We all will miss you.

11-10-2006, 04:33 PM	#24
lucyrocks73 Razzamatazztic Tap Dancer There are ways to make punks like you sing. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!! Posts: 551	Well... I sort of half watched it... I taped it on the ReplayTv (a TiVo-esque thing) though, so I'll fully analyze it tomorrow. I'd watch it now, but my little brother is glued to the TV because of the SpongeBob movie. I MISSED THE MUSICAL NUMBER!!! Anyone who knows me can say that is the first of ANYTHING. I also missed the Lightning McQueen cameo... I'll look for that... From what I DID pay attention to, it was an okay episode. The closet. Ha. Everything happens in a closet, I swear. Ha. I always knew that Mac's big heart would be out to get him some day... And no Goo (as much as I love her, I needed a break... I hate when they overuse her...), which made me happy. Next week's ep shall keep my eyes glued to the screen. -Marty __________________

11-10-2006, 04:37 PM	#25
One Radical Dude Big Insensitive Jerkface Still Awesome Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 2,738	It was a good episode, though I have to say it was a step backwards from last week's. First, what I didn't like. I, too, was anticipating this one to be more of a Mac and Frankie-centered episode (according to the description from Cartoon Network's website), and it wasn't quite there. That took a bit of enjoyment out of the episode. Also, I wish Frankie and Herriman would've put up more of a fight vs. Lincoln and Moose. Really, that's about it, though it was enough for me to lower my grade of the episode. What did I like? I loved the first act quite a bit. I enjoyed Bloo's Daffy Duck-esque act in Mac's classroom, and Bloo's obsession with the video game. I really loved the musical bit in this one. It was great to hear some of the IFs use their vocal talent there. I hope to see another in the future. I loved Herriman's first lady line there. I must that that Lincoln's design is unique and I wasn't expecting him to be so small. I also loved how Madame Foster used Lincoln at the final act of the episode. Overall, this isn't a favorite episode, and I had hoped it would've been better. I have to give it a B-. One more Season Four episode left, and we have the movie coming up in a few weeks. __________________ Visit these pages: Facebook, Twitter, Google+

11-10-2006, 05:34 PM	#29
Mr. Marshmallow Not-So-Hopeless Romantic Gotta love being in love Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orland Park, IL Posts: 1,924	I totally buy Herriman bowing out and surrendering. He's an old fuddy duddy and someone who's stuck in the old ways of doing things. Herriman is also a neat freak and very structured, if one TINY thing goes out of order, it throws him totally off balance. Unlike Bloo and the others, Herriman doesn't respond well to pressure and he usually breaks down when bad things happen. Like in "Camp keep a good Mac down" and "World Wide Wabbit", and of course "Crime after crime". Face it, he's no pillar of strength. Frankie also did state she had a problem with this. You could see it on her face during the whole musical number, and she did say she doubted this during the song itself. But again realistically, this proves the whole point of how good these villains really were. How often does Foster's run into people like these? Dylan and Berry were more like social pests or nusiances, they weren't down right rotten like these two. Little Lincoln is smart enough to think things out, and Moose did what he was IMAGINED to do. Frankie can only do so much, and she did, there's no one in Foster's who's strong enough to beat out someone like Moose. And with everyone sold out to their jobs and left overs included just Frankie, Mac, and Herriman, it's no surprise they couldn't do a whole lot. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicSlime http://www.fanfiction.net/~nukem999

11-10-2006, 04:29 PM	#21
pitbulllady Co-Administrator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,276	I guess I can be glad I didn't read the Cartoon Network thingie in much detail this time, since I was not expecting Mac and Frankie to team up and save the day, though I would have expected Mac to try and right a situation that he caused, albeit inadvertently. I can see the issue, though, with the selling of the Imaginary Friends, the forcing them to work for nothing, and the overcrowding in the house. In that respect, they were being treated just like slaves, and therein lies the irony. The REAL Abraham Lincoln, through his Emancipation Proclamation, FREED all the human slaves in the US, while this Lincoln turned other Imaginary Friends into slaves, for his own profit! One thing that this episode DOES show, though, is that Imaginary Friends are far from being just extensions of a child's personality and thoughts, and that they are not all childlike, not at all! Little Lincoln surely did not pick up the idea of selling other Imaginary Friends, taking over an old lady's house and fortune, and turning it into a gambling casino from some elementary school kid, and his reaction to that bikini-clad lady on the ballpoint pen was FAR from childlike and innocent! pitbulllady

11-10-2006, 05:29 PM	#28
Voxxyn Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Zebes Posts: 1,069	Just a question: WHY are people here complaining about how Frankie and Mr. Herriman "didn't do much" to stop Lincoln and Moose? Considering how her role in the episode didn't turn out to be as big as CN.com said, I think Frankie did everything she could to try and stop them. Were you REALLY expecting her to effortlessly take down a huge ogre like Moose on her own? It would've been awesome, and could've been plausible if we saw her using her wits and brain... but seeing as how the episode's structure turned out to be different than I and some others expected, she did the best she could. And I thought it was hilarious how someone like Mr. Herriman COMPLETELY surrendered to them, and briefly became a maid.