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Old 01-14-2008, 07:53 PM   #1
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Interesting comparison, JJ! I like Frasier too, and have since before I moved to the Seattle area. I think I remember what episode you're talking about. I don't like seeing any character being persecuted to such a great extent, at least without getting some comfort and/or revenge in the end. I don't remember feeling as let down when watching "Crane vs. Crane", but then I was never attached to Frasier like I am Foster's. I do remember however the episode didn't impress me either.
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:25 AM   #2
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Interesting comparison, JJ! I like Frasier too, and have since before I moved to the Seattle area. I think I remember what episode you're talking about. I don't like seeing any character being persecuted to such a great extent, at least without getting some comfort and/or revenge in the end. I don't remember feeling as let down when watching "Crane vs. Crane", but then I was never attached to Frasier like I am Foster's. I do remember however the episode didn't impress me either.
Yeah, the comparison probably isn't entirely perfect, particularly seeing as how at the end of "Crane vs. Crane" Niles, unlike Bloo, does at least have to acknowledge that his final victory was a pretty hollow one. Plus, unlike "Imposters", the bulk of the episode doesn't consist of a particular Frasier character having to undergo an agonising endurance test - indeed, if not for that rather nasty twist ending, CvC would be a pleasant enough episode to watch, more or less. I guess the connection has less to do with the specific content of the episode than it does the basic structure - ie: encouraging the viewers to empathise with one side of an issue merely to spring an unpleasant "Gotcha!" moment upon them at the end. I'm left with a rather bitter aftertaste in both cases.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:17 PM   #3
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I don't like this episode. Not only because it tortures Frankie, it was just not funny. If it had a character who deserved it like Bendy, I still wouldn't of last. It's like the writers said let's do a horrible episode about torturing some good character.
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:17 AM   #4
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I just didn't care for this episode. It could have been good, borderline okay at best, but it just... didn't sit right with me. It was just kinda... bleh.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:03 AM   #5
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Now, I have NO INTENTION to see this episode, nor did I ever want to post in this thread, but I just saw something from TV.com that caught my eye regarding the episode:
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Writer Craig Lewis's final episode, according to Lauren Faust
It kinda makes me wonder if Craig wrote this episode without Lauren not knowing about it.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:02 AM   #6
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It kinda makes me wonder if Craig wrote this episode without Lauren not knowing about it.

I'm sorry are you implying that Craig (Lewis) just went ahead and wrote this episode behind everyone's back and just kind of sprung it on everyone at the last second?

That sort of unprofessional behavior would get any television writer into so much hot water that their career would essentially be sunk for good.

So I hardly would think that was the case at all, especially with the other Craig at the helm creatively constantly checking in on every script from first draft to last.

And that said, C.Lewis while yes was the assigned writer for this episode, it's a safe bet that CMC, Lauren, the other writers and possibly network executives would have given their feedback and made contributions to the story here and there as it was being made.

And despite all that there is also the time factor at play, deadlines must be followed to letter. So maybe they did in fact have the best episode ever at one point but a lot of it had to be sacrificed without destroying the basic structure of the story in order to get the thing out on time.

Who knows? None of us can really say for sure because we weren't there.

BTW C.Lewis left the show not because of the feed back associated with this episode, but because he wanted to move on to his own projects (One of which was his short lived Adult Swim series "Saul of the Mole Men") So this would have been his last episode no matter what.
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:44 AM   #7
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I've summed my opinions on this dull episode on the Five least favorite episodes thread (idea was good, coin jar was good, the rest was tedious and cruel), and I have summed up that this is by far the most universally disliked Fosters episode ever (with Bendy and Europe behind).

Asides from the main Fosters fanbase (you know, us!), do we know how this was received by the show's target audience (children), or from the more casual fans?

Did the writers receive any negative feedback for this? If so, have they made a response?
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:10 AM   #8
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Do you mean the Characters or the viewers?
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Old 11-18-2009, 08:21 AM   #9
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In case anybody wanted to read this post for themselves, here it is:
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthrea...88#post1902488

She appears to regret Everyone Knows It's Bendy, and wasn't so proud of A Sight For Sore Eyes, but has defended Imposters
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