Episode Discussion - "The Little Peas" (11/22/07)

[Cassini90125]

Originally Posted by koosie

Prove it.

The writers themselves might not have known Peas was there, he is very small. Maybe he was in all those other situations but on the available information, we'd have to conclude not.

Oh, give me a break. Peas, and every other aspect of the show, isn't something that the writers discover; it's something that they create. If he wasn't there before, it's because he didn't exist, not because the writers overlooked him.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I have to agree with Cass, this sort of "future planning" stuff is not really reserved for such things like this show. Only shows like Buffy the vampire slayer, or Heroes would incorporate such long advance story preparations because they have complex and intricate story lines that require thinking and preparing ahead of time.

Nothing about Peas or this episode is anything that would require additional thinking or planning over, its a one shot concept with a one shot character. None of the other one shot IF characters had this much time devoted to them, that's because they were not the SOUL point of the episode, like Peas was here.

There was nothing in this episode or about Peas himself that would make me think or say the creators planned this out from the very moment they started writing "The Big Cheese". All this Peas thing was a "open door" for the creators to slide a new episode, in fact, this is as close to a "cheap" episode as you can get.

Nothing happened here that would make ANYONE want to think about it well in advance. This felt like a last minute idea to scrap up an episode without doing anything too complicated, so they stick us with an episode which we already saw with a character we never saw before and take away something we already knew before and wiped their asses with it.

[BabyCharmander]

While I am just a touch disappointed that Peas was the one who told Frankie how to turn the situation in her favor (albeit in a rather desperate way), it is canon now and there ain't a lot we can do about it.

And I don't see it being such a big deal that she was robbed of one of her few spotlight moments, since every Foster's character... really doesn't have many spotlight moments, anyway. I mean, how many times do we see Bloo get foiled? Things usually turn out pretty bad for Wilt, too. (I mean, how many times has he gotten in jail?) There are more, of course. I'm sure Frankie's still about even with all the other characters in the times she actually HAS succeeded, even with this loss, here.

[antgirl1]

Originally Posted by BabyCharmander

I mean, how many times has he [Wilt] gotten in jail?

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4 times, not counting the voluntary I'll-Go-To-Jail-Cause-I-Stood-On-Rugs-And-Stood-Within-100FT-Of-A-Lamp time. It won't count, since he did it to himself, as an act of self-punishment.

1 time where he actually MIGHT'VE deserved it, and that's a pretty big MIGHT. He didn't know those people were robbing some person's home. He possibly thought of them as moving truck people. (I did too until the cops showed up) (GWH)

2 times where he was actually innocent and didn't deserve it (and believe it or not, these two were in the same episode). He didn't even deserve the second time, either, because he's not at fault for the first time, so escaping from jail (while innocent) couldn't BE a crime. (Where There's a Wilt There's a Way)

And the last one...What the HELL did he do? (Cheese a Go-Go)

Gee, who would've thought that Bloo was right about the "Life of Crime" thing. For a nice guy, Wilt sure knows how to get into jail, even if he didn't actually do anything wrong.
----ANSWER ENDS HERE----

Sorry, couldn't help but answer it.

Be lucky Frankie's never been to jail, or at least as much as Wilt. Don't kill me.

[bloonuggets]

Well, antgirl1, you're right.

However, Wilt was Madame Foster's lawyer IIRC in "Cheese A Go-Go" and was being jailed for contempt of court in the sandwich case of Jackie Khones vs. Madame Foster.

[BabyCharmander]

Thanks Antgirl. %D

Originally Posted by bloonuggets

However, Wilt was Madame Foster's lawyer IIRC in "Cheese A Go-Go" and was being jailed for contempt of court in the sandwich case of Jackie Khones vs. Madame Foster.

Was THAT it!? Thanks, that has been bugging me for FOREVER because I couldn't figure it out. x__x

[InsaneFan]

Originally Posted by BabyCharmander

While I am just a touch disappointed that Peas was the one who told Frankie how to turn the situation in her favor (albeit in a rather desperate way), it is canon now and there ain't a lot we can do about it.

And I don't see it being such a big deal that she was robbed of one of her few spotlight moments, since every Foster's character... really doesn't have many spotlight moments, anyway. I mean, how many times do we see Bloo get foiled? Things usually turn out pretty bad for Wilt, too. (I mean, how many times has he gotten in jail?) There are more, of course. I'm sure Frankie's still about even with all the other characters in the times she actually HAS succeeded, even with this loss, here.

This is how I felt about the whole thing. I know how they feel, I like to see Frankie win sometimes too, have a triumphant moment, and it kinda sucked to see one taken away from her.
But really, the episode happened, and there's not much you can do to change it. So, I got over it. I think I'm a bit healthier for it, too. I don't need any extra anger or stress in my life, and as awesome as this show is, it really shouldn't make that huge an impact in my life.

I know it's hard to help it sometimes, but just let it go.

[AerostarMonk]

Well it is possible for such an episode to be ejected from canon. If you adopt the concept of fanon where you only take into account episodes that you feel fit with the rest of the series as a whole. Also there have been times when fanon has been accepted as true canon. One major example is Batman the Animated Series. An episode that was reviled by many a fan was rejected from canon by the producers themselves.

However I don't think that it's warranted for this particular episode, I was just saying.

[Cassini90125]

As much as I dislike the episode I don't favor the idea of ejecting it from canon; that just opens the door for anyone who didn't like a given episode to say it doesn't count.

[AerostarMonk]

Like I said, it takes a whole heap of people for that sorta thing to happen. It's a rare occurrence. Also if you adopt the idea of fanon, it's out of your own personal canon. An idea that is used quite a bit among fans in every genre. Doesn't mean it doesn't count for real, but for you the events are nonexistent.