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Old 10-09-2007, 07:28 PM   #22
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I don't read the manga nor do I ever plan to because this isn't about the books, it's about the anime and from what I know of manga and anime, they can be two VERY different shows. I also don't really care how well or worse a show did in Japan compared to here because I don't live in Japan, that has nothing to do with me.

The Japanese hated Samurai Pizza cats, I loved it. I don't care what was changed and I don't care the fact the Japanese hated it, all I know is I liked what I saw and therefore I like it. Same goes for GT. I don't really care why it was made or how it was done or how the entire nation of Japan felt about it.

I liked what I saw and a lot of people I have spoken to seem to agree. Dragon Ball GT develops certain characters that got zero development in DBZ such as Uub, Pan. Plus, GT extended on the shows timeline, they didn't just ignore everything that happened and changed characters names or personalities.

Had they changed any of that, then I might be mad but regardless how Toriyama was involved or not involve, I still liked what was done just like how I will give this LIVE movie the chance to impress or upset me depending on what comes out. I don't go into anything with a negative mind at all.

The reason immortality was a desired wish was because of fear, something that is quite interesting for villains who supposedly are "one sided". Frieza was not that cut and dry, for a guy who felt he was god he sure didn't act like it. His fear of the Saiyans and the possibility of them overthrowing him shows he's not 100% sure.

Why else would he desire the dragon balls for immortality unless the notion of someone one day killing him could exist? Vegeta desired immortality to overthrow Frieza because he KNEW Frieza destroyed his life and his race, Vegeta is more then domiantion and power, it's also pride and patriotism.

Patriotism for his race, Vegeta started out as a villain and he's proven to be far more complex then the average bad guy. Villains don't HAVE to be pure evil either. The Ginyu force comical factor doesn't change the fact they were killers or the fact they had all intention of killing Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan.

Villains can be stupid, goofy, and polite and it's that unique mixture of qualities that makes villains unique. Take Nappa for example. He was NOT pure evil, he showed signs of compassion, friendship, and guilt. He felt bad when Vegeta killed his Saibaman, he felt guilty about killing off the Arlians, and he felt hurt when Vegeta betrayed him.

What kind of one dimensional villain who is cut and dry shows compassion for things? Even if it was for the briefest of moments, the fact Nappa said them showed that he was not pure evil and that there was something noticeably more to him. Same with Cell, Cell killed those people for food, not pleasure.

Granted he enjoyed it, his desire was not pleasure but survival, that's why he ran from fighting the Z fighters and hid his power level, to survive. When he became Perfect Cell he could have easily killed Mr. Satan and his cronies but he didn't, he also could have easily killed everyone in the news room he invaded.

If he was just a flat, one dimensional character he probably wouldn't have shown signs of restraint or holding back. Majin Buu was pure evil, he had NO reason for the way he was, he was totally and uncontrollably evil and I am referring to the real Buu, Kid Buu. All other forms were caused by his absorption of others.

But the pure Buu had no reason for his behavior and don't tell me Bibidi made him that way because if he had any influence over the development of Buu's emotions, he would have made him obey his master willingly which NO form of Buu did. That's another DIFFERENCE in the villains, not all killed their master.

17 and 18 killed Gero, Cell wouldn't have and I doubt 16 would have either. The Ginyu Force liked each other and were upset when one of their own died. These hardly sound like typical old, paper thin villains who show characteristics that usually your average villain would show nothing of the sort.
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