Goofball John Magee

[Mr. Marshmallow]

That doesn't change the fact that zeroing older audience members is a down right crummy and scummy thing to do. Their work is still appreciated, it's their underlined intention that still bugs me.

The way I see it, fans are fans. Doesn't matter who you target, if you really want your show to get noticed and remain popular, I suggest taking care of EVERY fan you get, regardless of age or anything else.

[BabyElephant]

Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow

That doesn't change the fact that zeroing older audience members is a down right crummy and scummy thing to do. Their work is still appreciated, it's their underlined intention that still bugs me.

The way I see it, fans are fans. Doesn't matter who you target, if you really want your show to get noticed and remain popular, I suggest taking care of EVERY fan you get, regardless of age or anything else.

Fans are fans, but the same doesn't apply to advertising dollars. TV networks charge for advertising minutes based on how desirable their perceived demographic is. Kids tend to have a lot of disposable income, and a big say in what their parents buy (cereal, toys, etc.) As a result, advertisers are willing to pay more to air commercials geared toward children. This, of course, makes CN very happy. Of course they want to keep older fans happy too, but they probably feel that we'll keep watching the shows we love regardless. Corporate marketing be a cruel mistress.

[billytheskink]

it's a noble thought, Mr. M.

but it has proven to be a poor marketing strategy, especially in these days of seriously fragmented television ratings. Cable advertisers want the networks to deliver narrow target market segments.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

It may not be the best marketing strategy in the world, but that doesn't change the fact that this show impacts older people like myself just as greatly as it does kids. It can be the down right worst strategy in the world for all I care, still doesn't change the fact that fans matter.

Just because you target a certain age doesn't always mean you will get that age, nor does it mean you won't get people who love the show who are different from the targeted age. I'm not saying change everything for the sake of mature fans in terms of advertising.

All I am saying is I think us older fans should be taken at least somewhat into consideration.

[Howard]

Just an observation. I do believe the animators have the same claim as the animators of the past (i.e. WB toons, MGM, Disney, etc.): "They were/are not made for kids, or adults - they were made for us!" This is regardless of marketing, or fan base.

[BabyElephant]

Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow

It may not be the best marketing strategy in the world, but that doesn't change the fact that this show impacts older people like myself just as greatly as it does kids. It can be the down right worst strategy in the world for all I care, still doesn't change the fact that fans matter.

Just because you target a certain age doesn't always mean you will get that age, nor does it mean you won't get people who love the show who are different from the targeted age. I'm not saying change everything for the sake of mature fans in terms of advertising.

All I am saying is I think us older fans should be taken at least somewhat into consideration.

I couldn't agree more, actually, but unfortunately as we all know, money talks. The only thing I can think of that might even have a chance of changing things would be a massive letter writing campaign. If CN sees their profit margin as being in any way threatened, they might change their tune. Sadly, though, given the realities of modern American business, that's far from a given.

[Howard]

Originally Posted by BabyElephant

I couldn't agree more, actually, but unfortunately as we all know, money talks. The only thing I can think of that might even have a chance of changing things would be a massive letter writing campaign. If CN sees their profit margin as being in any way threatened, they might change their tune. Sadly, though, given the realities of modern American business, that's far from a given.

Now hold on thar! I have CN stock; you start that letter writing thing my earnings will further drop!

[BabyElephant]

Originally Posted by duck2k

Now hold on thar! I have CN stock; you start that letter writing thing my earnings will further drop!

Ha ha, we have somebody on the inside!!! Well, not really, but still more inside than I am (which is saying absolutely nothing). Do you get a cool cartoon stock certificate when you buy CN stock, the way you do (or at least used to) with Disney stock? Cause if so, I might have to pick up a few shares.

[billytheskink]

Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow

It may not be the best marketing strategy in the world, but that doesn't change the fact that this show impacts older people like myself just as greatly as it does kids. It can be the down right worst strategy in the world for all I care, still doesn't change the fact that fans matter.

Just because you target a certain age doesn't always mean you will get that age, nor does it mean you won't get people who love the show who are different from the targeted age. I'm not saying change everything for the sake of mature fans in terms of advertising.

All I am saying is I think us older fans should be taken at least somewhat into consideration.

I'd think that Cartoon Network takes older fans into consideration, but not at the expense of younger fans.

Kids are fans too, they deserve to see their favorite shows just as much as us older folks.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Originally Posted by billytheskink

I'd think that Cartoon Network takes older fans into consideration, but not at the expense of younger fans.

Kids are fans too, they deserve to see their favorite shows just as much as us older folks.

I don't want them to "expense" anyone. But as long as they ARE taking adults into consideration and not just totally focusing 100% on kids, I'll feel happy.

I'm not saying mature teens/adults should replace kids, but they should be heard and not ignored.