[AerostarMonk]

It wasn't really the man, it was the rep behind the man. No matter what he could be destroyed but the Shredder would always live on. Not even Utrom Saki was the original Shredder. Sort of a who's Keyser Soze thing.

Bebop and Rocksteady weren't in the original comic they actually were created for the show. It's just that the concepts they were based on were way toned down. I mean I wouldn't mind them showing up, but they really have no reason to. They aren't major villains themselves and without Shredder to anchor them to they just don't fit.

I never really got that murderous insanity from Nicholson. I mean he just seemed like your average killer. His version of Torrance in the Shining was closer to the Joker for me than the actual Joker in Burton's film. His defanging of such a great villain was inexcusable especially without the censors that hampered Hamill's Joker. But the Joker is not just about his murderous insanity. It's about his sick twisted sense of humor which was only displayed a couple of times in the film, but numerous times in the animated series. The setup and punchlines were set up beautifully in the series. Especially in Joker's Favor.

BTW, thanks Mr. M. It's great to have someone here I can just geek out with.