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antgirl1 11-24-2006 09:21 AM

Jordan Michaels (Wilt's creator)
 
Let's discuss him. :D

So, he's the one who brought Wilt into this world. Glad to find that out. I personally think Wilt's personality was somewhat based on Jordan. He says things like "It's not ok", and stuff like that. OR maybe Jordan's personality rubbed off on Wilt.

Saving Wilt before he could "go SPLAT"...aww.

So, what do you think?

"C" the Dragon 11-24-2006 09:28 AM

I think it was pretty sweet that we finally met Jordan Michaels!:D He is almost like Wilt: Apologizing alot and keeps saying "Okay" in some of his senences. They're kinda like "Father 'n son" From how Wilt reacts of his creator.:D

Invader Bloo 11-24-2006 10:21 AM

I'd like to see an epsidoe where Wilt & Jordan hang out together in one of his manchions(sp?)...with the gang along.

antgirl1 11-24-2006 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Invader Bloo (Post 17706)
I'd like to see an epsidoe where Wilt & Jordan hang out together in one of his manchions(sp?)...with the gang along.

I think it's "Mansion".

And yes, I hope the characters in GWH won't be just one-time-use ones. :(

Chaos Wielder 11-24-2006 01:52 PM

Yeah, Jordan Michaels was great and is an obvious parody of a certain real-life basketball star, as we all know. ;) I did like how he and Wilt seemed to be similar in personality and they almost DO seem to be like father/son or maybe even brothers as well. I'd love nothing more than to see more of that father/son relationship between the two of them later on, personally. :)

InsaneFan 11-24-2006 06:08 PM

YES, and episode where they go to his mansion would be GREAT. I've already got a plot in my head for it...And it includes Bloo distroying it in 50 buggajazillion ways, though not intentionally. x3 With, of course, Wilt apologizing and trying to fix all of it, and Jordan trying not to blow up over it(I imagine him reacting to things the way Wilt does).

It wouldn't be a very heartwarming episode, but it would have some funnies. :bloogrin


But as for discussing Jordan himself...He was AWESOME. ALMOST like a human Wilt. Sorta. His relationship with Wilt was absolutely squee/aww-worthy. :D

bloonuggets 11-25-2006 09:32 AM

And did anyone notice the team he plays on? The Cows, a parody of the team Mr. Michael Jeffrey Jordan got most of his fame, a team Chicagoans know and love as...

DA BULLS!

pitbulllady 11-27-2006 01:31 PM

An episode with Bloo and the gang running amok in one of Jordan's mansions would be funny, but I think it would be interesting to see an episode where Wilt goes to stay with his creator/"son" for awhile, and see how the others cope with him not being at Foster's, and how HE copes with being treated like royalty for the first time in his life. Wilt is so not used to people doing things for HIM, like waiting on him hand and foot, he probably would have no idea how to act. I can see him trying to do all the hired help's work, to their aggravation. It would be REALLY interesting if Jordan has a lady in his life, a fiance', perhaps, since Wilt is most likely, in spite of himself, going to wind up getting in their business at some point, especially if the future(or present)Mrs. Michaels turns out to be not such a nice person, and Jordan simply cannot see it.

pitbulllady

CG 11-27-2006 01:41 PM

I liked Jordan a lot, but I don't really see the father/son relationship you guys are talking about. I just see two very close friends, even after 30 years apart. That there is true friendship, even if Wilt felt he honestly let Jordan down you could tell how relieved he was even a bit hesitantly to know Jordan didn't see him as a loser, but the best friend he ever had.

But yeah, seeing the guys going to one of his mansions would be hilarious. Either that, or Wilt going alone. A lot of character driven storylines could arise from those kinds of ideas.

antgirl1 11-27-2006 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 18725)
An episode with Bloo and the gang running amok in one of Jordan's mansions would be funny, but I think it would be interesting to see an episode where Wilt goes to stay with his creator/"son" for awhile, and see how the others cope with him not being at Foster's, and how HE copes with being treated like royalty for the first time in his life. Wilt is so not used to people doing things for HIM, like waiting on him hand and foot, he probably would have no idea how to act. I can see him trying to do all the hired help's work, to their aggravation. It would be REALLY interesting if Jordan has a lady in his life, a fiance', perhaps, since Wilt is most likely, in spite of himself, going to wind up getting in their business at some point, especially if the future(or present)Mrs. Michaels turns out to be not such a nice person, and Jordan simply cannot see it.

pitbulllady

LOL! That's a nice idea! How Foster's cope with Wilt not around the house, and how Wilt copes with being waited on, head to toe. XDD

InsaneFan 11-27-2006 03:42 PM

Omg, I would LOVE to see that. xD

billytheskink 11-27-2006 10:25 PM

I thought they could have been more creative with his name. But I guess Michael Jordan references are easy to get.

I would have appreciated "Russell Williams" more...

Jabberwocky 11-28-2006 02:16 AM

Anything other than a Michael Jordan reference would have been lost on a lot of people, including myself, as he's the only basketball player I know, and that's only because I saw Space Jam. XD

antgirl1 11-28-2006 06:23 AM

"Aw, but I really wanted you to see my MANSION." -Jordan

pitbulllady 11-28-2006 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 18888)
"Aw, but I really wanted you to see my MANSION." -Jordan

Yeah, seriously, lol! If Jordan didn't sound like a little kid whining to his dad in that scene, and Wilt didn't sound just like a parent too tired to argue taking the easy route and giving in, I don't like spiders! The way that Wilt patiently showed the younger Jordan how to shoot a basket, how to hold the ball properly, and so forth, was just like a dad showing his kid how to do something, whether it was playing basketball or riding his first bike. Same goes for when Jordan tells Wilt that Wilt was his hero, and that he's responsible for Jordan becoming the better person that he is, rather than a better basketball player. In the past, that role of really shaping the character of a young boy into a decent man fell upon his father, or other male adult role model if the father was dead, and that's why so many young boys eventually wind up in trouble and become criminals-they have no father figures to guide them and teach them things like character. Even that good-natured ribbing there at the end, when Wilt and Jordan are playing basketball and Wilt is winning by a huge margin, suggests the sort of dynamic I used to see between fathers and their now-adult sons. I can recall my father and grandfather having similar little challenges, usually about working on a car or fixing something, since neither were into playing sports.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 11-29-2006 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 18901)
Yeah, seriously, lol! If Jordan didn't sound like a little kid whining to his dad in that scene, and Wilt didn't sound just like a parent too tired to argue taking the easy route and giving in, I don't like spiders! The way that Wilt patiently showed the younger Jordan how to shoot a basket, how to hold the ball properly, and so forth, was just like a dad showing his kid how to do something, whether it was playing basketball or riding his first bike. Same goes for when Jordan tells Wilt that Wilt was his hero, and that he's responsible for Jordan becoming the better person that he is, rather than a better basketball player. In the past, that role of really shaping the character of a young boy into a decent man fell upon his father, or other male adult role model if the father was dead, and that's why so many young boys eventually wind up in trouble and become criminals-they have no father figures to guide them and teach them things like character. Even that good-natured ribbing there at the end, when Wilt and Jordan are playing basketball and Wilt is winning by a huge margin, suggests the sort of dynamic I used to see between fathers and their now-adult sons. I can recall my father and grandfather having similar little challenges, usually about working on a car or fixing something, since neither were into playing sports.

pitbulllady

I kinda think Jordan was just messing with Wilt when he said that. XD

Thornwhistle 11-29-2006 08:00 AM

Did you see his face when he said that? He looked he was pouting,like a kid.

pitbulllady 11-29-2006 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Thornwhistle (Post 19221)
Did you see his face when he said that? He looked he was pouting,like a kid.

Yeah, he did-a kid with a receding hairline! I think he was using an old trick that probably used to work with Wilt(most of the time, anyway)back when he really was a little kid, and you could see that Wilt's immediate reaction was like, "PLEASE, no more WHINING...I'll do anything you say...just don't WHINE!"

pitbulllady

"C" the Dragon 11-29-2006 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 19276)
Yeah, he did-a kid with a receding hairline! I think he was using an old trick that probably used to work with Wilt(most of the time, anyway)back when he really was a little kid, and you could see that Wilt's immediate reaction was like, "PLEASE, no more WHINING...I'll do anything you say...just don't WHINE!"

pitbulllady

I can see how Wilt never refuses and always a "Yes-man", LOL!8D

heartless95 12-02-2006 08:52 AM

I think they reli should do an episode where :D goes to the mansion without the rest of them.We`ll see how they cope with lossing him...again

antgirl1 12-04-2006 06:17 AM

That's what we were discussing earlier. :D

What if Jordan has a son or daughter? :D

pitbulllady 12-04-2006 06:51 AM

I don't think that Jordan has any kids, not small ones, anyway. If he DOES have children, they'd probably be in their teens by now, otherwise he would have been more insistent-AND more successful-in getting Wilt to move in with him. I don't think Wilt would have turned down the offer to stay with Jordan's kids, since they would essentially be family, rather than just like a kid who'd might adopt Wilt. Given the relationship he and Jordan had, Jordan's kids would be like Wilt's grandkids, or at least, nephews and neices, and knowing what I know about most "grandfathers", I really don't think Wilt would have turned that down.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 12-04-2006 02:48 PM

Maybe Jordan's family doesn't live with him, (if he has wife and/or children) since being a basketball player could mean you'd have to go to different places a lot. Could be it, though.

Gah, I'm actually not so good with family trees. XD

pitbulllady 12-04-2006 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 20457)
Maybe Jordan's family doesn't live with him, (if he has wife and/or children) since being a basketball player could mean you'd have to go to different places a lot. Could be it, though.

Gah, I'm actually not so good with family trees. XD


They'd have to live SOMEWHERE, at one of his two mansions(the one in Malibu, or the one in the Hamptons, which is on Long Island). Sure, he'd have to travel a lot, but IF he had a family consisting of a wife and children, they'd still have to have somewhere to call home, at least during the off-season. If Jordan had kids, I still think he would have at least mentioned them, and I really think that if they'd been young kids, Wilt would have been having a fit to see them in person. They would be family, after all, rather than just any old bunch of kids, and that would have swayed his decision to remain at Foster's. As they say, blood IS thicker than water! Wilt would probably be like most grandfathers of the human persuasion; those kids would be like the center of his universe!

pitbulllady

CCMars 12-05-2006 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CG (Post 18730)
I liked Jordan a lot, but I don't really see the father/son relationship you guys are talking about. I just see two very close friends, even after 30 years apart. That there is true friendship, even if Wilt felt he honestly let Jordan down you could tell how relieved he was even a bit hesitantly to know Jordan didn't see him as a loser, but the best friend he ever had.

Agreed. I see their relationship as a bond of brotherhood, the kind that lasts longer than most of the relationships in your lifetime.

And yes, there really needs to be a "Jordan's mansion(s)" episode. XD

antgirl1 12-30-2006 11:42 AM

YES. PLEASE! XDD

Well, it's a good thing that Wilt and Jordan lost that game 30 years back, (whether it be on accendent or on purpose) otherwise Jordan could've ended up as a glory hog or something. XDD

"C" the Dragon 01-22-2007 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 25680)
Well, it's a good thing that Wilt and Jordan lost that game 30 years back, (whether it be on accendent or on purpose) otherwise Jordan could've ended up as a glory hog or something. XDD

And this wouldn't even be a show! Thank goodness that they lost!:D

pitbulllady 01-22-2007 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by "C" the Dragon (Post 29833)
And this wouldn't even be a show! Thank goodness that they lost!:D


Good point-there would still be a show, but it would be minus Wilt. I really don't think that Jordan would have ever just given him up. Jordan probably would not have become a "glory hog", since he still would have had Wilt's influence, even more so than he actually has, since Wilt would have been a family member all along. The main difference is that Wilt would have never gotten injured, so HIS personality would not be quite like it is, since much of what we have seen is the result of his 30-year guilt trip, AND, as I pointed out earlier, Wilt would not be on the show at all, since he would still be with the Michaels family in some capacity. As much as I hate to say it, Wilt's injuries were the only reason he eventually wound up at Foster's. We would have never met him had he not had his arm crushed, and subsequently lost that game.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 01-27-2007 03:15 PM

I definately hope there will be an episode about one of Jordan's mansions. With a storyline simmilar to "How Foster's deals without Wilt and how Wilt deals with being served on "endlessly"".

So Jordan won't end up as a one-time-use character. At least, I HOPE. Since it'd be sad for Jordan to only appear once, then never again.

I've also read about the real Michael Jordan, and he has children. So there may be a possiblity that Jordan does, too.

Crash-N-Cortex 01-27-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 30590)
I definately hope there will be an episode about one of Jordan's mansions. With a storyline simmilar to "How Foster's deals without Wilt and how Wilt deals with being served on "endlessly"".

So Jordan won't end up as a one-time-use character. At least, I HOPE. Since it'd be sad for Jordan to only appear once, then never again.

I've also read about the real Michael Jordan, and he has children. So there may be a possiblity that Jordan does, too.

It would be cool to see Jordan Michaels in another Foster episode. We might see what Jordan's mansion look like.

pitbulllady 01-27-2007 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 30590)
I definately hope there will be an episode about one of Jordan's mansions. With a storyline simmilar to "How Foster's deals without Wilt and how Wilt deals with being served on "endlessly"".

So Jordan won't end up as a one-time-use character. At least, I HOPE. Since it'd be sad for Jordan to only appear once, then never again.

I've also read about the real Michael Jordan, and he has children. So there may be a possiblity that Jordan does, too.

I really hope that we haven't seen the last of Jordan Michaels. I mean, anyone who could create someone as wonderful and complex as Wilt deserves to have a reprising role! I really, really wanna see an episode in which Wilt goes to stay with him for awhile.

Jordan's real-life counterpart and inspiration, Michael Jordan, is what? 50? I know that his kids are either in their late teens or adults now. I don't think that Jordan Michaels is quite that old, since he appeared to have been around 6 or so when he created Wilt, though he could have been older, since he was short for his age. Unlike his counterpart, HE has hair still, lol!

On a side note, I believe that I've narrowed down the hometown of both Wilt and Jordan as Charleston, South Carolina. The reason I think that, aside from the accents, is that in close-up scenes of that big game between Wilt and Larry(the most recent one, NOT the one in which Jordan was still a kid), there are these pineapples stenciled on the doorways of the old buildings. I KNEW I remembered seeing that pineapple motif somewhere, in some old city I've visited, and I happened to think of it while talking to a friend of mine about his recent trip to New Orleans as part of rebuilding construction team. I asked him if he remembered seeing a city where there were lots of these pineapples stenciled on doorways to old buildings, and he immediately said, "Yeah, Charleston-you know, on 'Catfish Row' there are all these buildings with those stupid pineapples on 'em; I have no idea why, since they don't grow pineapples in Charleston!" Sure enough, I emailed my second cousin who lives in "The Holy City", and he confirmed that those pineapples were sort of a symbol for Charleston; you HAD to have at least ONE something with that motif on it if you lived there, and many of the exclusive shops now sell clothing with that pineapple, which has sort of gotten adopted by the "preppy" crowd as a trendy thing. Apparently, it got started with the Gullah/Geechee culture and took off from there. So, North Carolina has Michael Jordan, and we've got Jordan Michaels AND Wilt!

pitbulllady

antgirl1 01-27-2007 06:53 PM

Charleston, South Carolina...I WAS RIGHT!

They WERE from one of the original 13 states!

You cheater. Now we'll have to wait until we get yelled at by the Foster's staff about finding out this. XD

You know, it's strange that Jordan isn't too shorter than Wilt. And THAT'S saying something!

"C" the Dragon 01-28-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 30621)
Charleston, South Carolina...I WAS RIGHT!

They WERE from one of the original 13 states!

You cheater. Now we'll have to wait until we get yelled at by the Foster's staff about finding out this. XD

You know, it's strange that Jordan isn't too shorter than Wilt. And THAT'S saying something!

Huh. I always thought it was New York.:P Go figure.

Who knows how they'll react.:P

Yeah, I noticed.:wiltshock: He's probably 7 foot something.

Vampyre 02-09-2007 12:20 PM

That's the same size as Eduardo isn't it? Has anyone noticed that in GWH Jordan seems to shrink and grow in the breif time hes in the film? At one point, when he's giving Wilt a hug (aww) he comes to his chin, (with both of their knees bent) and then, when Wilt's knees are bent while their playing basketball, but Jordans aren't and he comes to his shoulders or something...

antgirl1 02-10-2007 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vampyre (Post 32900)
That's the same size as Eduardo isn't it? Has anyone noticed that in GWH Jordan seems to shrink and grow in the breif time hes in the film? At one point, when he's giving Wilt a hug (aww) he comes to his chin, (with both of their knees bent) and then, when Wilt's knees are bent while their playing basketball, but Jordans aren't and he comes to his shoulders or something...

This sort of thing happens all the time in animating. AWWW about the hug. :D

Vampyre 02-10-2007 09:15 AM

First time we saw Wilt EVER hug anyone! Who's got the video camera?

antgirl1 02-10-2007 10:37 AM

LAWL, not me. XD

pitbulllady 02-10-2007 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Vampyre (Post 33020)
First time we saw Wilt EVER hug anyone! Who's got the video camera?

Yeah, I think it is, though I'm trying to think of any other time we've seen him hug someone. It's rather odd, that as nice a person as Wilt is, and as helpful and compassionate as he is, he can also be a bit "cold" and distant when it comes to actually showing affection, or ANY emotion, for that matter. Sometimes it just seems like Wilt takes that male stereotype of holding in feelings a bit TOO far. I don't think he was created that way, honestly, but has developed this sort of "wall" around him(with due respects to Pink Floyd) due to his unpleasant experiences, and the knowledge that as a still-adoptable resident of Foster's, he will have to sever ties he's spent years building in an instant. I sure hope that being reunited with Jordan, and knowing that all is forgiven and he's still a welcome and cherished member of the Michaels clan, will help break down some of those emotional barriers.

pitbulllady

Vampyre 02-10-2007 11:01 AM

Well he did TECHINICALLY hug Eduardo once. In 'Who let the Dog's in?' when Eduardo is sat at the bottom of the stairs with chewy, he walks up with the other's and wraps his arm around his shoulders. I'm not sure if that can be classed as a hug, but it's half of one.

antgirl1 02-10-2007 12:20 PM

That probably doesn't count, since the GWH hug really was a hug. :D


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