Make Believe It Or Not Episode Discussion 11/17/06
 

Okay, let's talk about the return of Goo in "Make Believe It Or Not."

In this episode, she imagines the villians from a video game call "Make Believe" that trap Bloo and Mac, and now it's up to her and the others to save them.

Does no one read the Rules?? :herriman:

This feels like a subject-only thread. Bloonuggets, would you please add something we don't already know to your opening post?

And, by the way, it's a weee bit early...

I don't see what's so bad about starting an episode thread just days before it airs. It's fun to speculate and wonder what will happen.

Though I have a feeling some here will vote F solely because they hate Goo... :goo:

I think it is premature for the poll to go up, but having a convesation on speculation about the eppisode is different. too bad there was not a lot of information released about this eppisode. so most speculation may be closer to Fan Fiction :D

I hope we see cheese:cheese:
:gooblab: :gooblab: :gooblab:
Monty :-/

I hope this episode has tons of videogaming references and jokes. "The Sweet Stench of Success" and "One False Movie" respectively did a great job making fun of the television and film industries, and I think MBION has similar potential for the gaming world.

Since we've gone through two consecutive episodes without Goo appearing, I won't be so bothered if she gets the spotlight in this episode. (Just as long as she doesn't completely overshadow the main characters)

An episode about video games, airing on the same weekend that Sony and Nintendo are releasing their new systems. That can't be a coincidence. :P

Yeah like Voxxyn said if they ramp up the video game references, this should be a fun episode.

And if that is the case then I know I will love this episode regardless of which character is in the spotlight.

In a lot of ways, I both dreading and looking forward to this episode. Primarily, I'm looking forward to it because I love Goo, but I'm dreading it because of their misuse of the character (tendency to use her too often, letting her overshadow the characters, ect). While I want to see it, I still haven't made up my mind if I'm going to catch it tonight or wait until a repeat and read you guys thoughts first. :( I really need to be more decisive.....

Probably not. It's good to know I won't do THAT again. XDD

Mmmmmm...could beeeeeee.

I just saw it. It was amazing and Goo has never been portrayed better, the imagination part of the show was at an all time high and I was laughing all through the episode!

Spoiler Below

Aww! Goo is SO cute With her little braids all down like that. :goo:

Bloo: *is attacking Mac*
Mac: Bloo! What are you doing? We're on the same side! I'M A GOOD GUY!
Bloo: What-? Then who are we supposed to fight? Who's the bad guy??
*all stare at Wilt, whose still seated on the office chair*
Wilt: ...Oh all right.

This part makes me giggle. The look one Wilt's face says "Oh, you've got to be kidding,"

It's nice to see a glimpse of where Goo lives...hee hee!

Wilt: Whoa, guys, calm down! Let's just go back to attacking me, okay?

I loved that line too. XDD

not one of my favs, although i will still put it on youtube after i get the second airing with the full screen credits :)

WOW. I can't even say enough how much I LOVED this episode!! Go Wilt!! He took the lead and handled everything smoothly, and might I add he was hilarious as the villian! I absolutely loved his scenes to death, but I'll let PBL do the main talking about him! ^_^

Mac's "glamour shot" was so awesome, I thought he looked quite handsome! LOL For a nine year old, anyway. ^^ That was great, those glamour shots, I really enjoyed seeing all of them (Bloo cracks me up the most, he tries to be so dashing and perfect), and Wilt looked like a transformer! lol

Goo was excellent, they brought some more depth into the character with this and I felt kinda bad for her when she was all sad because she was feeling left out. But awww, leave it to sweet Wilt to immediately notice and try to fit her in. (He is awfully golden-hearted, isn't he? He's thirty-something years old and still will play like a child if it makes others happy. Gotta love him!)

The only scene to bother me slightly (though I let it pass because Bloo cooperated at the end, FINALLY admitting to being a "sidekick") was Bloo ditching Mac in a "dangerous" moment. Even Mac was shocked by that one.

Can anyone explain to me their theories on this? Why does Bloo seem to have issues with Mac, especially on an authority level, where he thinks Mac is always trying to be "higher" than him (which he's not!!). I don't get it, because everyone knows Mac cares about Bloo ( or why would he be seeing him every day?) and yet Bloo feels he has to constantly prove himself around Mac all the time.
And yet, confusingly enough, when it comes down to it, he'll sometimes finally cooperate and everything ends well.

Hmmm......

I absolutely cracked up several times during that episode, ESPECIALLY with the usually-all-grown-up-and-serious Wilt having to play the bad guy, and getting a bit TOO much into character, much to the others' dismay! I really never would have figured Wilt to be much of an internet gaming junkie, either, but it goes to show that some of us uh, ahem...more mature folks can still hang on the 'net! "Lord Snotzak", ROTFLMAO! This episode was a wonderful tribute to the powers of imagination and the fine art of PRETENDING, something which many kids in this day and age simply cannot do. Bloo expressed the opinions of so many kids nowadays, "If it don't run on electricity it ain't worth doin'!"

This one rocked, Craig and Lauren!

pitbulllady

For anyone who hasn't seen the episode yet, let me make this statement just in case:

Spoiler Below

An A for a job well done.

I gave it a B. I would have given it an A, but there's a certain reason I didn't that I'll address later. Anyway, on to the positives of this episode:

GOO: I think that, for once since "Go, Goo, Go!", Goo has been used well in this episode. Not only that, but they've fixed the "Ed-bashing" problem Goo seemed to have had in a few episodes (thankfully; her apparent irritation with him made no sense to me) and brought her back more towards the character I'd imagined she'd be. This episode also confirmed something else that I've been thinking of, at least in my mind it has: Goo definantily has some form of abandonment issue. While eight year old girls (or boys) in general will try to be the centers of attention, Goo goes much farther than necessary to try to be noticed. While I may be overanalyzing it, I still say it stems from a possible abandonment issue, which I stated thoroughly in the Goo character thread discussion and see no need to state here.

I also found it interesting that there were absolutely no shots of her parents at her house, but that's an overanalyzation for another time.

ED: Spoiler Below Thankfully, Ed played quite a large role in this episode, which was......refreshing, to say the least. I know it's naive to expect them to work all the characters in to an episode in even medium roles, but I think that Ed's been kinda getting the short end of the stick lately compared to the other two members of the elder Foster's trio (Wilt and Coco, of course). Honestly, I don't know what my deal is with Ed, but he never fails to entertain me.

BLOO AND MAC ARE BEING THE BEST BUDS: Thank you, Lord, for allowing us an episode this season other than "Squeeze the Day" where Mac and Bloo cooperate as best buds (at least for the most part; the chase scene kind of made me cringe and think they'd be fighting the entire rest of the episode after that). Seriously, I can't begin to describe how overjoyed I was to see them working and acting like friends.

BLOO'S ALIASES: You have to see them, as mere words cannot describe the joy they bring. His first gives off some of the single best lines in the episode. Honestly, I think that the joy Bloo's aliases in this episode bring goes to prove that Bloo is constructed of pure happiness and sunshine, lightly dipped in arsenic.

WILT: Wilt basically shines in any episode he's in, so of course this was no exception. It was nice, however, Spoiler Below

COCO: Kinda with Wilt: she has a tendency to shine. What more can I say.

HEART FACTOR: I felt that there were quite a few parts of this episode that were really heartfelt. Not so much as a few others, like "Go, Goo, Go" or the pilot "House of Bloo's" Spoiler Below , but I think that some heartfelt moments were definantily there.

And now, for the bad part, and the only reason I didn't give it an A.....

Where were the video game references promised in the description of it? I saw maybe one, Spoiler Below , and that's about it. Honestly, I don't know what's happening as to why CN has been giving somewhat misleading/faulty descriptions for this episode and the last. Maybe it's not a big problem and I'm just an idiot who was paying enough attention to catch some of the video game references, but I'm a bit irked that, yet again, the description seemed slightly misleading. Who knows, with this kind of streak, "GWH" may not be about Wilt trying to find his creature, but fighting a giant squid monster. :(

But, overall, a genuinely delightful episode.

I just watched it... I kept having to pause the Replay (the Tivo-esque thing) because my brother saw a mouse. That went into a ten minute search for the mouse. My dog is still looking for it...

As for the episode...I'm mixed.

Which is odd, since I'm such a huge Goo fan.

Well, I loved Goo in this. I really did. It showed some depth to her character, without adding all that extra angst we were debating about on the Goo forum.

The blatant Speed Racer and Dave the Barbarian parodying got me laughing- particuarly the Speed Racer because my brother is such a fan.

However, the plot seemed... odd.

Random. Yet odd.

And as everyone knows, this is the part of my review where I compare myself to Goo.

Ways Goo is like I was at her age:

1. She thinks about things nonstop, and never lets things go.
2. She couldn't stand anyone beating her at anything, particuarly a "mouth-off".
3. She sings (er.. well, she sings off-key. Not sure if I do.)
4. She dreams about things going on in her life (i.e. beating Mac at the "mouth-off")

However, when people don't pay attention to me, I just say a random word over and over again until someone gets annoyed and notices. Yesterday the word was 'potato', and I said it for three whole minutes before someone noticed.

CN needs help writing summaries. Does whoever writes them WATCH the episode first? Almost no video games involved.

Which I guess shows how creative the characters are. I mean, they designed that entire story/plot line themselves. I think Goo should become a writer, or an artist or something... She has an eye for detail.

Evil Wilt made me laugh hysterically. I LOVED the voice. It cracked me up...

I gave it a B. Just because it takes a whole lot to get an A from me. Only two episodes have ever gotten an A from me... Squeeze the Day and... well, I forget what the othe one was.

-Marty :goo:

LMAO!! That is about the BEST description of Bloo's personality EVER. 8D8D

Seriously, "Lord Snotzak" was the most over-the-top villain alter-ego since Buddy Pine/Syndrome! And y'all can barely imagine how much I loooooove hearing Wilt speak in that deep commanding voice of his! It's just way too bad that Frankie wasn't in this one, since I can envision the look on Wilt's face if SHE had walked in with a load of laundry or something else for his "To Do List", and caught him with that collander on his head and an empty wrapping paper tube stuck on his stump of an arm! American Express could not have come up with anything more priceless! It is great to see someone like him, though, who can be all serious and responsible and adult when he needs to be, and yet still has enough "inner child" that he is able to put aside his adulthood and just be silly for the sake of having fun. I know it sounds stupid, but I can't help but think of what a great father he would actually be.

I don't know what was up with Bloo, though. It's odd for him to be afraid of anything, honestly; ESPECIALLY when it comes to defending Mac. I mean, in the pilot episode, he ATTACKED Eduardo like Pit Bull catching a wild hog when he mistakenly thought that Ed was going to hurt Mac! I guess Bloo's need to outshine everyone else, even his own creator, is really coming to the forefront of his personality. He's reminding me more and more of Mike Wazowski, and that's not a good thing. Still, you can't help but laugh at his "Bloominator" routine, though!

pitbulllady

Well agreed, PBL. And it's not stupid at all to think of Wilt as a father. I think he'd be an AWESOME father, and to top it off, he's just great with kids and puts up with all their shinnanigans. (Even Bloo, who is the toughest to put up with, as we all know well.) Perhaps he even played a father figure to his creator, but I'm sure that's been suggested by others already.

Yes see that's what I mean about Bloo acting OOC here.....when it came to defending Mac, he was indeed trying to protect him from Ed in the pilot. But in this ep, he would have simply left Mac to his "fate", even if the situation was not REALLY dangerous. It's just the concept of it. THEY thought it was serious, knowing how kids can really get into their pretending, and they believed it as real, so again, Mac acted really shocked and I was just as shocked myself.
Bloo sometimes disappoints me but then again, he did help out in the end so he redeemed himself, thank God. I think he has to learn a LOT and it will take quite some time to understand the value of his friendship with Mac. But then again, Bloo's six...still quite immature and way too conceited. It's just going to take a LOT of time...LOL

Really loved this episode, hope to see more like it!

And might I add, I too, PBL, get shivers down my spine (in a good way!) when hearing Wilt. His voice is sooooo pleasant to listen to.

I had to miss the episode, so I'll have to catch the rerun. But let me say that it sounds GREAT. I'm glad to hear Goo is back to being likeable and cool.

My personal feeling is that, on top of the brother/brother and best friend relationship the two have, there's also a father (Mac)/son (Bloo) relationship here which, despite his young age, you could say Bloo is, in a way, going through his "rebellious teenage years". The way I see it, since Mac acts like a father figure, Bloo will treat Mac, at times, like a father figure, which tends to be the same way he treats any authority figure: not necessarily disrespectful, but genuinely uncaring and unconcerned. However, like any son wants to prove himself to his father, so does Bloo want to prove himself to Mac, which includes going to desperate extremes occasionally.

Like you said, though, he'll eventually cooperate instead of trying to prove himself, and to a degree I think he's occasionally hurt by it, as it makes it seem like he can't be responsible enough for Mac. See, I still think that Bloo is a bit hurt after having been given up, and that maybe somewhere in the back of his li'l Bloo mind, he's afraid Mac will just eventually up and leave him. His intention, then, would be to try and keep Mac with him as long as possible, the best way to do this being to prove that he's worth coming to see.

HURRAY FOR OVERANALYSIS!!! :gooblab:

I saw it abput 2 hours ago, and I loved it.

First, I loved that Goo was not overused and had depth in this episode.:goo: And I also enjoyed how Wilt got quite into character when playing the villan. Lastly I like the Play-on-words names. (Rex Carsalot):bloogrin

All in all, I gave it an "A"

Those were very funny parts, though Bloonan the Blobarian is more of a parody of Conan the Barbarian than Dave, I'd say. Dave the Barbarian is pretty much a tounge-in-cheek shot at Conan as well.

Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in the 1982 Conan the Barbarian movie, so Bloo's Arnold-speak toward the end is probably a send up of that.

Overall, I enjoyed the episode, though the bizarre plot didn't have me engrossed like I thought it could have.
Mac and Goo trying to top each other's pretend weaponry was pretty darn funny; I did the same thing with friends when I was a kid.
I agree with those who say that Goo was well used. It was a plot that suited her well. However, it also reminds me why I don't really want to see her in every episode. I was a bit tired of seeing her by the end.

All in all, another solid effort by the Foster's crew.
I gave the episode a B. I figure that's fair for a good-not-great episode.

.....Did Bloo say "owned"? Did he? I think he did.

Bloo says many wise things in this episode. Among them, yes, is the fabled "owned". Ponder upon it to discern its full meaning.

Bloo's great when he's just playing along with Mac and saying really funny or clever lines. Hence why I can't stand when people call him stupid...

He did.

And Goo in PJs, whee.

He ditched Mac, though. I am mildly disturbed by that.

All in all..... well, it was an episode. The thing that bugged me about it was that the humor, and the episode in general, seemed to be more about the situation at hand than the characters, which is what they usually focus on.

....I just wanna let you know...

ED LOOKS SO CHIBII LIKE AT THE END. IT'S CUUUUUTE! XDDD

That is great.

I enjoyed the episode, but it would have been better if it had a better ending. Though Ed at the end was funny.

Wow, I must say that this one blew me away. This is my favorite season finale so far (slightly edging Season Two's finale, which was my previous favorite season finale). This was definitely a step up from last week's "good, but not great" episode. I must say that Wilt definitely was da man in this episode. Yes, the younger audiences will really enjoy this one, but I believe even adults would, too. Ed was used well in this one, also. I loved the Bloo and Mac interaction in this one, almost as much as I did in Squeeze the Day. This episode felt like it had a bit more action than comedy, but that doesn't make it a bad episode at all. This one was definitely unique. I gave this one a well-deserving A. :)

Yeah.......I just got done watching it after I recorded since I was out during the premiere, and since I am too tired, hungry and lazy to go through everyone's posts on this thread, I'm gonna post my comments honestly and as thoroughly as I can.

.....This episode really....I don't know how to explain it. It wasn't that great honestly, it's just too weird for words and not the funny good weird way more like the....I can't explain what the hell I just saw weird way. There was some interesting things here but I think they were executed poorly.

The things I liked: Reference to older episodes about Goo's ability to not control her IFs, always nice to see. She was much better here and I LOVED how she actually got "owned" (hearing Bloo say that was priceless) and couldn't take defeat.

Goo was the only incredibly good part about this episode. The fact she has admitted to her mistakes, repeatively apologized to Mac for what happened, and that she couldn't control her IFs were all very new and unique things for Goo to work off of.

The Space boogies (or whatever there called) were unique looking and pretty cool. I loved the sprouting tentacles thing and Wilt doing the Darth Vader saber fight with Bloo was great, as was Wilt actually being good at acting evil.

Now the bad: Bloo shutting Mac outside of the door.....I'm sorry but that's just NOT cool. It upset me...seriously. Even if these aliens were not evil as far as torture goes, the fact Bloo shut him out in a time when they seemed to fear for their lives....that's just not cool.

Wilt being able to get so into his character and automatically dump his friends for the aliens wasn't "Wilt"ish. His behavior in "Where there's a wilt" was more plausible then this. I also didn't get this whole imaginary attack thing until later and even now, it still seems weird.

But my biggest beef is the fact that while ALL of this was going on....Madame Foster, Mr. Herriman, and Frankie are NO WHERE to be found. "Infernal slumber" made sense because they were at Mac's house, they had a plausible reason for not showing them.

But for evil IF aliens to break into the house, chase Mac and Bloo who scream the whole episode practically, and kick Goo out all through the house and not have ANY of those 3 chars who basically NEVER leave the house around, hard to swallow.

I understand Frankie, Madame Foster and Herriman wouldn;'t have worked in the episode but seriously, you can't expect people not to wonder where they are when all of this crazy crap is going on. None of them would leave the house completely unsupervised.

The only time they did that was with Bloo in "Squeeze the day" and that was because they figured with him alone nothing would happen...and they were right more or less. So all in all, last week's episode was much more entertaining then this.

Like before, this was clever writing but I found "Emancipation" more enjoyable to watch and watch AGAIN then this one. Outside of Goo's amazing character development, this episode didn't really make me laugh that much. It just weirded me out and made Wilt and Bloo do things that just irked me.

I found the fact that Bloo wouldn't do for his best friend what most decent people would try to do for someone they didn't even know to be honestly disturbing. And it's not like keeping the door open for another split second would have made much of a difference.

Yeah, I don't get that, really I don't. (Craig, Lauren, are you trying to say that Bloo really doesn't care about Mac getting hurt or not? Like the time he had Mac go up in the tree and practically break his neck trying to get something for him? Uhm....hmm..wish I could do an interview here to find out your reasoning behind things like this. There's so much conflict sometimes ((even in one episode)) with Mac/Bloo being friends and Mac/Bloo being something that's not quite friends that it sometimes disturbs me. Then again, I AM a major over-analyzer. lol)

That's one thing about the show that always irks me. I understand some of this is intended to be humorous but thing is, we KNOW Craig is a thinker like us, and that he likes to put some real heart into his show along with the humor and craziness that goes on with the characters. So I don't understand this message at all, even IF Bloo is totally chaotic, his world is SUPPOSED to be CENTERING around Mac, not trying to INSULT HIM, SHUT HIM OUT, or ACT LIKE HE DOESN'T CARE.
To me, that totally defies the wonderful original purpose of this show....

to stress friendship and the values of helping others.

But well, besides that one thing (which is starting to bug me more the longer I think about it, for some reason), this episode WAS good. I gave it a B, by the way.

Not the point. The point was the gesture of the action, this can sound like over analyzing if you want but it's actually quite simple: shutting a door on someone's face only has ONE answer. Bloo shut the door on Mac and let him get chased around.

Even if there was no chance of actually helping Mac, the fact of the matter is the gesture wasn't given back and above all else, to his best friend. If you ever saw the "Mummy" movie with Brendan Fraiser, very similar thing happened towards the end of the movie.

This guy Benny was a back stabbing, theiving, wormy little snitch who was once Fraiser's best friend in the movie but back stabbed him like 50 times. In the end, the pyramid is closing and Benny is trying to escape as the walls start to close down.

Despite all the back stabbing, despite the fact he was BETRAYED, shot at, insulted, ditched, and left for dead at every waking turn by this guy Benny, Fraiser still extends his hand out to help the guy out of the tomb. It closes, and he fails.

But....the gesture was still made, the attempt was still given. Bloo didn't and that's what bothers me. That, and the fact that like I said before about "Emancipation", this was an interesting idea....I just didn't think it was a very funny idea.

The imagination thing in the beginning with the word fighting was good, but after a while, it dragged on really long and they kept talking so fast it was hard just to keep up and get the whole idea of the "joke".

I don't think it's out of the ordinary for Bloo to close to door on Mac early on. This is Bloo we're talking about, and more often than not, he thinks about himself -- a lot. Does that make it right? No, I'm not saying that, nor am I defending what happened here. At the same time, though, you do have the option of asking whether Bloo cares or not if Mac gets hurt.

What I meant by that was, it's hard to even see what he was trying to accomplish by being all "SAVE YOURSELF!" because they would both have escaped if he had kept the door open.

If this is the Bloo we are going to see more of as the series progresses......then I am seriously gonna dislike him soon. Selfish and thinking bout only you is one thing, I always felt Bloo was just an ass but still had a heart deep inside of him.

"House of Bloo's" showed us that, this didn't. I really hope Bloo becomes more like "Boss" Bloo then "Make Believe it or not", because it's not an image I can stand if this keeps up.