L.A Times + CMcC's Take On [CN Real]
 

Here is some news about Cartoon Network, and it will kinda fill you in on the reason for the really dumb stuff CN has been doing, (CN Real.) It's an interesting read, although you're going to wish you hadn't read it once you have :P

It's by L.A.Times, plus Craig McCracken says stuff too. Worth to check out.

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Wow. This is the saddest thing I've read about CN in some time. I think I'll not be watching this channel ever again. :P

You said it, dude. :P

So this probably means that its gonna take years before CN Execs realize they struck true gold with their original cartoons, since it doesn't looklike they're gonna stop trying to 'revitalize' CN.

But Cass, you might be able to fill me in on this. It says Craig left CN, but I thought he was still working on Cartoonstitute? Is it a mistake by the L.A Times or did I miss a news update? Do you know?

It's news to me; he didn't mention anything about it at the Con, at least not that I heard. Disney or Nickelodeon would be lucky to get him. :frankiesmile:

Edit - There's nothing about it on his or Lauren's DA pages, either.

Cartoonstitute is no more. I don't know the details.

http://comments.deviantart.com/4/6465375/1085753054 This seems to sum up what happened to "Cartoonstitute". Sad, really. :/

FHF why don't you role play anymore?

This is what I think about this new "live action" junk:

http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com...tf-is-this.jpg

Except the fruit is this stupid a** reality crap.

Let's be careful with the language here guys, but believe me, I sympathize. :P

Interesting that not only has Foster's ended, but so has Cartoon Network as we knew it. Maybe when Destination Imagination brings home an Emmy while their reality garbage tanks, it'll give them something to think about.

I didn't know about Craig not working for CN anymore until last month at Comic-Con. I think the network's direction was a factor. Khaki Jones doesn't work at Cartoon Network anymore, either, but she had told me earlier this year that she had left. There will still be animated shows out there, but as for the live action, I will not give them a chance. On the upside, from my understanding of the article, the live action programming, for the most part, is not doing well. I really do NOT want CN Real or any of the live action programming to do well. Stuart Snyder and Rob Sorcher are doing nothing but sinking CN faster than the Titanic. :P

Part of me is saddened by all this, but another part of me is wanting to yell out "Good!! Let them fail! See if I care!" :terrence: And, seriously, Snyder and Sorcher aren't worried?? How arrogant and hard headed are they? You'd think they'd see what reality shows did to Nick and Disney, but noooooo, they think they're so good that they can pull it off when the others couldn't. Uh huh, yeah right. Now let's all just sit back, and relax, while we watch the network that threw away something so good, including Foster's, fail horribly. See if we care.

Oh, and Really?? I don't know a single cartoon fan who'd rather see people like themselves instead of cartoons.

To paraphrase one Batholomew J Simpson

It appears to me that Cartoon Network is trying to catch up with the other networks by going slower then them.

I say this because of the part of the article when they talk about when Nickelodeon and Disney both gave up on the whole reality show thing because they themselves because they couldn't compete with already established ones.

CN has been shooting themselves in the foot with their "six seasons limit" thing, and the way that they treated their most popular and most financially-successful series is a crying shame, so it really does not hurt my feelings to see them go down. It sounds like they're trying to become Spike TV for teen boys...oh, joy. Hopefully Craig and Lauren will wind up with Disney/Pixar.

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I'm a teen boy & I don't find any of the reality crap entertaining. Though, the only one that's close to entertaining is the quiz show. Atleast I have Chowder, Flapjack & Star Wars.

For the moment, anyway.

Wow, these look promising. ::) :P

Has anybody heard anyone say that CN's new approach is a good idea? I haven't. I would love to know who did the research and why the nitwits think this will work. It's a serious turn-off as far as I'm concerned. :P

No I've never heard anyone said it was a good idea. I've also never heard anyone say airing that stupid cartoon on speed "Johnny Test" all the time is a good idea either.

True, but as bad as it is at least Johnny Test still fills the basic qualifications that make up a "cartoon" and therefore belongs on a "Cartoon Network" granted not as much as it should be, but once the powers that be come to their collective senses they'll find a more quality cartoon to take it's time slot(s).

I tried to sit down and watch Johnny Test, but ehhh...no. Just not happening. Hopefully, something better does come along.

I've never liked that six season limit. It's as if the people in charge of CN are afraid one of their shows will become stale if it's in production for too long (similar to what has become of the Simpsons)...unlikely, but anything's possible.

CN was supposed to be my happy place when every other channel is reality show heavy, contains sitcoms with the stupid laugh track (which kills a show's supposed humor if you ask me), or has shows geared toward only pre-teens and teens. Not anymore. Youtube is my happy place now with funnier content such as youtube poop (basically random humor).

Cartoon Network with programming other than cartoons and anime is not really a cartoon network anymore.

Now there's a damning indictment of the current state of CN if there ever was one, it's gotten so bad that it causing some of it's loyal fans to turn to wacky edited footage of obscure video game cut scenes and the like for their source of entertainment. :nodno:

And the live action programming infecting all toon channels phenomenon is starting to spread to Canada as well, as Teletoon is debuting some tween show that wouldn't look out of place on Nick or Disney, this fall. Granted they said it's supposed to be live action/animated, but from the brief clip they showed. (I was waiting for Chowder to come on, shut up. :P) There was little to no animation to be found at all.

I mean really they had to put this on Teletoon? Canada already has a youth oriented channel for shows like that YTV.

I think I should stop now, before my blood boils so much it causes steam to shoot out of my nose. :terrence:

C. McC has left CN? That's news to me...:o Then again, reading what's been said about the current state of CN, I can't really blame him.
I personally feel that the success of reality TV (I have better words for it, but I'm not going to type them here) is the root cause of the toon channels going down the pan...once Big Brother et al got huge and made the profits, it was only a matter of time before this type of junk seeped onto pretty much all types of channel.

It's not bad in itself that CN is doing reality TV, it's just the fact that they are taking already established reality concepts like Mythbusters and Survivor and just trying to "Kidify" them that gets me, if I were a kid I would be thinking "Now why would I want to watch a cheap knock off, when I can see the real deal?"

Given the ratings I think a lot of kids also seem to be thinking the same way too.

I mean if they wanted to do a reality show, why not do one about, oh I don't know "Animation", it could be something simple like two groups of young art students are both given a chance to make their own animated short, both shorts are judged by a panel of the top names in the field and the winning team gets their short played on the network and a scholarship to an animation program.

There, an idea that potentially could be fun and combines the best of both worlds. But what do I know? I'm not a high powered executive...yet.

I can't help but remember a cartoon called A Pup Named Scooby-Doo, which was easily the most annoying version of Scooby-Doo that I've ever seen. Of course, it's likely to be to be better than CN's upcoming live-action version, which will probably be badly written and poorly cast. :P

Not a bad idea, not bad at all. :) :up:

It was news to me too last month at the Con. I think that's where the news officially broke. It upset me, knowing we won't be seeing anything from Craig and Co. for who knows how long. But he does deserve better. Hopefully a network with at least some brains will take him on and we'll be blessed with more of his work.
Ditto. :up: I'm still not the biggest fan of reality shows, but something like that would be perfectly fitting on a cartoon channel, and I'm sure I'd tune in at least to at least learn what it's like working in animation.

Then again, networks like MTV, VH1 and CMt have shied away from their original premise: music videos in favor of shows that sees who's jumping into bed with someone else... But "The spider" does have a valid point on why CN should do a reality show about an animation pitch.

And as for Craig and Lauren, there's also Blue Sky (Fox) and DreamWorks as an option for them as well.

Obviously I'm a long way away from the key demographic in every sense. However all I ever wanted from the slots reserved for kids was cartoons and puppets. We never had whole channels, let alone several competing for same viewers and the same advertising revenues and in a way I'm sure that's a clue to why there's a shift away from the free-floating self-contained entertainment that cartoons provide..

Oh yeh and plasticine animation, which is pretty much a cartoon, anyway.