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Mr. Marshmallow 09-19-2006 02:02 PM

Do you believe in Ghosts?
 
Self explanatory.

I just thought of it after noticing the supernatural thread in here, and since this is a big topic, I'm sure people will get a kick out of this.

Explain why you do or do not believe in ghosts.

Cassini90125 09-19-2006 02:07 PM

Good grief, no!
 
I do not believe in ghosts or any other such things, because there is no scientific evidence. I prefer to deal with things that are real. I'm also not sure that this is a good topic for the Forum to get into but I'll leave it open for now.

Mr. Marshmallow 09-19-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 6544)
I do not believe in ghosts or any other such things, because there is no scientific evidence. I prefer to deal with things that are real. I'm also not sure that this is a good topic for the Forum to get into but I'll leave it open for now.

I just figured this was a good "discussion" type issue as the next.

Cassini90125 09-19-2006 02:20 PM

It borders on some very explosive topics that people feel strongly about.

Emma 09-19-2006 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 6544)
I do not believe in ghosts or any other such things, because there is no scientific evidence. I prefer to deal with things that are real. I'm also not sure that this is a good topic for the Forum to get into but I'll leave it open for now.

Gosh, Cassini, if you don't start watching P&T Bull**** soon I might have to make you. It's made for you!

Anyway, I too don't believe in ghosts or anything else that could be considered supernatural or unearthly. Mainly because, as Cassini said, there's no scientific evidence, not to mention all the people that have been exploited by psychics, and all of their smelly bretheran. I'm looking at you John Edwards you gigantic, stupid, ugly jerk! >:(

*Whew* But anyways, I've been raised as a skeptic and that's just how I'm hardwired. I mean, atheism (which everyone and their grandmother seems to think is a negative idealology) is what makes me want to keep going and do right by my fellow man. Then again, everyone's different. So I don't mind the believers of ghosts (as long as they aren't named John Edwards! ;) ).

Mr. Marshmallow 09-19-2006 02:23 PM

Well if people get out of hand, I'll try my best to break 'em up. I'm not here to start problems, I just want to know what people think of this and hopefully cooler heads will surface rather then hot ones.

And in regards to the topic at hand, I most certainly DO believe in ghosts. But I think I'll wait and see what other people think before I explain why, simply because I think I've already taken up too much room with these posts I've made :P.

Cassini90125 09-19-2006 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Emma (Post 6548)
Gosh, Cassini, if you don't start watching P&T Bull**** soon I might have to make you. It's made for you!

I'd love to watch but I don't get HBO, and a cable box would interfere with my recording equipment. :(

John Edwards should be stuffed into a barrel, packed on board the next available shuttle, and flung into deep space. He's a worthless scam artist and nothing more. >:(

Emma 09-19-2006 02:37 PM

Cassini, you'll thank me for this later: Lots and lots of P&T episodes

And this one on ghosts is especially for this thread:

(link deleted. You may not even LINK to pages that contain material greatly innappropriate to children! ~Sparky)

koosie 09-19-2006 02:37 PM

I'll wager that ghost experiences (excepting lies, exaggerations or delusions) are some kind of as-yet unexplained electro-magnetic phenomena. You know how we used to store information on manetic metal tape, maybe other forms of matter have that property, like old stones in castles and old buildings that store and play-back information on unseen atmospheric cues....

BlooCheese 09-19-2006 02:52 PM

Hah! How wierd. We were discussing ghosts in my biology class today and how scientists assume that nothing supernatural exists and that everything has a natural, reasonably reasonable reason.

And I don't believe in ghosts.
But ghosts do make up some good stories.

Mr. Marshmallow 09-19-2006 03:20 PM

I believe in ghosts for the same reason I believe aliens exist, there's too much possibility in the world for things we know about and know nothing about. Everything we ever thought we know ends up changing at some point in time, sooner or later.

I think it's possible because not everything requires proof. There is no proof in God, yet people believe he exists, there is no scientific proof we have souls, yet people believe in them as well. Just because we can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I'm a firm believer in the fact that the world is too vast, big, and mysterious for us to be completely 100% sure we know what exists and what doesn't in every aspect of life. For people who believe in say angels or life after death, why is it so hard for people to believe a ghost can exist?

The weird events we see, the shadows we see but then don't, not every spooky little event is someone's mind playing tricks on them or some kind of illusion caused by stress or drugs or stuff like that. I believe that we have souls and if we have souls, I believe that is in essence the human spirit.

And if a spirit can exist inside a body then it can exist outside of a body as well. But that's just me.

Emma 09-19-2006 03:32 PM

Well, while that rational would make sense if you believed in souls -- and I agree that if you believe in souls/God/other supernatural stuff and not ghosts you're being a hypocrite. But I don't believe in any of that. I think everything does require proof. There will always be stuff that we don't understand -- but I think that deciding that such and such is true without prooving it will just prolong our ignorance. But again, that's just my opinion.

Cassini90125 09-19-2006 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Emma (Post 6576)
Well, while that rational would make sense if you believed in souls -- and I agree that if you believe in souls/God/other supernatural stuff and not ghosts you're being a hypocrite. But I don't believe in any of that. I think everything does require proof. There will always be stuff that we don't understand -- but I think that deciding that such and such is true without prooving it will just prolong our ignorance. But again, that's just my opinion.

Mine as well. I insist on proof, not opinion.

G-man 09-19-2006 03:36 PM

simply I do believe in them,but for only some reasons which the most important following...even though this odd thing cannot be explained by science or anything else like that I just believe that once we die..well its even hard to explain it in words but,I just dont think once you dissapear from life that the rest of the things you see is darkness in the sense you cannot do anything,its unimaginable to me,its almost like when all of us finally start our "true" life....but when you actually realize your alive which is by 4 or 5....and with the whole religous thing with ghosts....I believe its all about faith and what you believe,if you believe in it,then it might happen as a fantasy IF you pass onto something supernatural...but like I said before I just think its impossible for us once we die,to know when it happens...or what is going to happen...I just cant explain why or think anybody can explain why either,that is my oppinion.And for me proof isnt always the answer,maybe one day only seeing is believing

Mr. Marshmallow 09-19-2006 03:41 PM

Science is proof but then again, we invented the theories and everything behind science. Gave it names and everything. And if something exists (yes I am aware I'm using the word if), whether we believe it or not is irrelevant.

I can't explain how I am personally existing right now, or how anyone is, but I know we are existing. I don't think proof is necessary because your asking to prove something that in theoretical definotion is beyond proof.

The whole idea behind ghosts and spirits is that they exist beyond death, like god for example. God by scientific "proof" or evidence can't exist, but if he does exist then what good would science do you?

I am not doubting the authenticity of science or people, I am simply saying it's impossible to totally rule out every single possibility of it from every single person, expierence, and event. Because even if someone does show you proof, and you don't believe them, that doesn't mean there lying.

I also agree with G-man. If ghosts don't exist then what does that mean, we die and simply rot in the ground as bodies? We are complete nothingness and have no place or heaven or hell to go to?

G-man 09-19-2006 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow (Post 6582)
Science is proof but then again, we invented the theories and everything behind science. Gave it names and everything. And if something exists (yes I am aware I'm using the word if), whether we believe it or not is irrelevant.

I can't explain how I am personally existing right now, or how anyone is, but I know we are existing. I don't think proof is necessary because your asking to prove something that in theoretical definotion is beyond proof.

The whole idea behind ghosts and spirits is that they exist beyond death, like god for example. God by scientific "proof" or evidence can't exist, but if he does exist then what good would science do you?

I am not doubting the authenticity of science or people, I am simply saying it's impossible to totally rule out the possibility of it. Because even if someone does show you proof, and you don't believe them, that doesn't mean there lying.

I completely agree with you,so much that I cannot add much more..

Cassini90125 09-19-2006 03:50 PM

Okay, as this thread is heading into people's spiritual beliefs (as I knew it would), I'm temporarily closing it until the staff have a chance to discuss it. Sorry.


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