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AerostarMonk 10-04-2007 01:32 PM

Sweeney Todd
 
One of the best musicals of all time has recently been adapted into a motion picture by none other than Tim Burton. After many years of trying to secure the rights to Sweeney Todd, a tragicomic musical by Stephen Sondheim, he finally succeeded. He has put together a great cast, and with Burton at the helm you know you're guaranteed great visuals and heaps of style.

Today, the trailer was released on Yahoo. I hope you enjoy it. I know I did.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809834155/video/4367764

Imaginary Light 10-04-2007 01:36 PM

I caught this trailer about an hour ago and I. Was. SHAKING. I don't think I've ever been so excited to see a trailer in all my life (wow, I'm lame8D).

The trailer blew me away. I actually like Depp's singing during Epiphany (some people are disappointed). The movie looks so visually stunning and OH MY GOODNESS I'm just so excited! The trailer being released today MADE my day!

AerostarMonk 10-04-2007 01:40 PM

It was beautiful. I really like the way they seem to be doing Epiphany, the closest the musical comes to breaking the 4th wall. Being such a dork I could tell all songs just from seeing the scenes, from the Contest to By the Sea. So you're in good company IL.

Really this movie cannot come soon enough!

emperor26 10-04-2007 03:19 PM

Fantastic trailer, and as always, another great Tim Burton film, as well as a soon to be great performance from Johnny Depp.

Sparky 10-04-2007 03:58 PM

I'll definitely see it. Someone I watch on DA loves Sweeny Todd, and I really want to see what its all about.

AerostarMonk 10-04-2007 03:58 PM

Now, I'm in a situation. The soundtrack will definitely be out before the movie. So should I buy it before or after the movie. If I buy it before I can't be surprised, but I won't be as disappointed by the changes. If I wait until afterwards, I could be disappointed, but I'd be surprised at least, and frequent soundtrack listens will help the entire thing grow on me.

What to do, what to do?

Imaginary Light 10-05-2007 07:02 PM

I'm having the same dilemma. But I think I won't be able to help myself and I'll end up buying it the day it comes out and listening to it again and again and again and again and...you get my point8-) But yeah, I really want to be surprised as well though. It's a tough choice. XD

Imaginary Light 11-17-2007 07:34 AM

All right. I'm double-posting, but it's time to revive this topic.

Three songs have been leaked, ya'll!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_Bg7Oj_Kzc (Johanna)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y00aTcOfl8c (Epiphany)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyB9DMr8Nw8 (My Friends)
These recordings were taken from a screening, hence the poor quality and dialogue.

(My opinion on the songs...I nearly died. I wanted to cry during Johanna because it's so beautiful. Epiphany's my favorite. My Friends is beautiful too. Johnny sounds wonderful. I can proudly say I never doubted him. And people who had already seen screenings said Helena wasn't that great. Yeah, I beg to differ.)

Also, for the Sweeney virgins who would like to see the musical before the movie comes out, the version with Angela Lansbury and George Hearn is on Google Video in three parts:
Part I
Part II
Part III

Imaginary Light 11-19-2007 12:27 PM

Here's a little behind the scenes-like thing with Epiphany. Man, I can't wait for this movie:smed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1qllg5SM5s

Dragonrider1227 11-21-2007 11:11 AM

This looks FANTASTIC!!

AerostarMonk 11-24-2007 09:36 AM

There's a new TV spot that actually highlights the fact that it's a musical. Though they really try to play it off as a light Burtonian comedy rather than the black tragicomic musical it is.

Imaginary Light 11-24-2007 10:02 AM

Here is the youtube link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-rsg1fTfQgI

Overly-cheerful-voice-over-man is kind of grating on my nerves though. But, eh. At least there's singing!:P

Imaginary Light 11-27-2007 03:15 PM

1) It's TODD now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C93mGl-xBo

2) These are my friends
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koZpo42GHyQ

3) Turpin and Anthony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNbfiLUj2k

4) The Contest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF_FgrzcsD0

5) Where's Pirelli?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ueQ9zaXOY

6) Epiphany
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57wVsVvVjM8

7) A Little Priest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMDq_QRy-rQ

8) Not While I'm around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emGBzI12UjE

9) Pamper you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4HExY7QfTs


I totally *do not* regret watching these. I mean, they're only short clips. It's not like they give much away.


EDIT// Oh, snap, featurettes:
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...ectlink&id=201

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...ectlink&id=203

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...ectlink&id=204

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...ectlink&id=202

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...ectlink&id=200

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...ectlink&id=204

Diamond Duchess 11-27-2007 04:06 PM

Hey, I don't know anything about Sweeney Todd, but it sounds interesting. Besides, I like musicals, so I might watch out for this.

After all, there should be at least Johnny Depp doing something weird in it.

Imaginary Light 11-27-2007 05:22 PM

Diamond Duchess, is you like musicals, I highly recommend Sweeney Todd. I've seen many, many musicals, and in my opinion, Sweeney is the best one I've seen. It's not exactly your everyday, cliche, people-randomly-bursting-into-song-for-no-reason musical. It's so much more :P

AerostarMonk 11-28-2007 01:28 PM

Cohen scared me with his high note! I really hope they do the tooth part of the contest. That's my favorite part of the entire song.

AerostarMonk 12-13-2007 11:40 AM

Alright we have the opening title sequence of the movie for anyone interested.
http://www.broadwayworld.com/videoplay.cfm?colid=23667
Wowser Gee! Looks incredible.

lucyrocks73 12-27-2007 08:53 AM

I've seen this twice so far, and it is easily the best movie of the year. Johnny Depp brought so much to the character, and Helena Bontam Carter was spectacular.

Imaginary Light 12-27-2007 10:25 AM

I saw this movie on opening day and I already recorded my gushing, incoherent thoughts in the "last movie you watched" thread, but now I guess it's time for me to write a...more coherent (I guess) review. Let's do it song by song, shall we? Yay!

*MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD!*

Opening: Okay, I was really sad to see the Ballads go way back when. Then I began to realize the just would not work on screen. The Ballads work onstage, because we can suspend our disbelief enough to accept some ghosts singing right to us about Sweeney. But on film? It just wouldn't cut it. And I think the instrumental Ballad they play during the credits kicks ass. As soon as the organ started playing, I was all :o

No Place Like London: As soon as the ship started coming into view, I was like, "Oh no. Please, for the love of EVERYTHING, please, do not let anyone make a Pirates reference" (I love POTC, but people have to let go of Johnny as Jack Sparrow). Thankfully, no one did (that I heard of, anyway). Anthony's voice is beautiful :bloosmirk: When Sweeney sings the "and then she fell, so soft, so young, so lost, and oh so beautiful," I melted! I love that part of the song and Johnny's voice was like...*sigh* I also love love love the way thr camera takes you through the streets of London really quickly at the end of the song...it made me dizzy but in a good way.

Worst Pies in London: Am I the only one who likes the way Helena performed this? Everyone always says it's so lackluster when compared to Angela Lansbury. Um, yeah, Lansbury was on stage; Bonham Carter is on film. You have to be more subtle on film. The roaches were gross, but I...liked how they added them. it just made the "worst pies in London" even grosser :P And I love how Johnny keeps trying to get a word in...just the subtle way he opens his mouth like, "Hey, I want to say something." 8D

Poor Thing: This was awesome! The flashbacks were just...gorgeous. I loved the masquerade party! I want some of those dresses! And the contrast with Lucy being dressed in dull white with the vibrant colors of the costumes...awesome. And what Turpin does to Lucy (I'd rather not say since youger children may be looking at this) was conveyed just as slimy, if not slimier, than the the stage version. Aaaauuuggghhh, I love this movie!

My Friends: Yay, Sweeney serenades his beloved razors! I loved the visuals they used during this song. The reflections in the razors were awesome! I love the wide shot at "well I've come home to find you waiting." Johnny's voice is much more rock-ish than any other Sweeney, but it works on film. And then when Lovett breaks in with "I'm your friend too, Mr. Todd," Helena just makes her look so pathetic, but that's GOOD. Finally, we're seeing some vulnerability with Lovett (no offense to Lansbury, LuPone, and other Lovetts...they're awesome as well, but it's nice to see new things brought to the characters).

Green Finch and Linnet Bird: Jayne Wisener, I love your voice! I was not a fan of this song before at all, and when I heard it made the cut into the movie, I inwardly groaned. But this girl's voice is so nice and clear. I think I didn't like it so much before because when Betsy Joslyn performed it, her voice was so harsh and piercing. The only thing that bother me about Johanna in this movie though (and you can see it through the whole song) is that she is playing the part of the cliched ingenue. All she seems to be able to do is stare out her window and be pretty. That kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

Alms! Alms!: Duuuude, I'm so angry they took out the "'Ow would you like a little muff dear..." rant out of this song. It's on the soundtrack and I love the way Laura Michelle Kelly performs it, and I've always loved it and laughed at it on the stage show. It shows just how crazy the beggar woman is :P But whatever. At least I still have it on the soundtrack.

Johanna: Oh, Anthony. You little stalker :P You love Johanna so much after getting a little glimpse of her at her window, don't you? Then you get the royal snot beaten out of you by the lovely Judge Turpin and the slimp Beadle, yet you still keep singing about your love for Johanna 8D Sorry, that part was kind of humorous to me. He's all bloody and yet he's all, "I feeeeeeeel you, Johanna! And one daaaaaaay, I'll steeeeaaaaal yoooouuuuu!"

Pirelli's Miracle Elixir: OMG, ED SANDERS IS SOOOO ADORABLE! It was weird having Toby be played by an actual child, but I took to the idea much better than some people. His voice is awesome for a kid. He's going places. Oh, and "What is this? Smells like piss. Looks like piss. This is piss, piss with ink." Oh, Johnny, hahaha!

The Contest: Sacha Baron Cohen is awesome. Awesome, I say! AWESOME! Although all the Borat comments going around the theater kind of got old.

Wait: I love how Sweeney makes the comment about why the Beadle hasn't some to the shop yet when he said he;d come before the week is out, and Lovett says, "Who says the week's out yet? It's only Tuesday," and then Sweeney throws his razor against the wall. It kind of reminded me of a little kid for a second. And the use of mirrors in this movie is awesome. I love when we can only see Sweeney and Lovett through the cracked mirror.

Ladies in Their Sensitivities: Um, Timothy Spall isn't the best singer, but whatever, because everyone laughed as soon as the man they all knew as Wormtail started to sing. Not much really to say on this part though.

Pretty Women: Oh my gaaaawwd! This part was amazing! I've always loved the "and pretty as a rosebud," "pretty as her mother?" "what? what was that?" "nothing, sir! nothing," part. It's like "OMG, Sweeney, you didn't just let your identity slip and tuin everything, did you?" no matter HOW many times I see it.

Epiphany: Oh. Em. GEE! After seeing so many scenes from this in previews and stuff, I thought, "Oh whatever. It'll be old." But it WASN'T! It was amazing! I love when Sweeney imagines himself on the streets of London, and no one is paying any attention to him, the madman, running around, offering people "shaves."

A Little Priest: I'm happy a lot of the dialogue was cut from this song, because it would just be cheesey on film. I liked how the pose at the end paid homage to the stage production. The whole looking-out-the-window-at-potential-human-meat-for-the-pies concept worked here too. "Is that squire on the fire?"

Johanna trio: I laughed so hard. Everybody did. Is that bad? Because what's so funny about Sweeney slicing multiple throats and sending them hurling backwards to the basement with a sickening thud on their heads, all while singing a song about his missing daughter? Yeah, I thought so. "A shooting staaaaaar..." THUD! I like the beggar woman's parts in this too. You finally start to see her face, and here I started to worry that people would find out she is Lucy. No one seemed to notice though. Hm.

God, That's Good!: I don't really care anymore that the chorus was taken out, because it would be ridiculous to see everyone sing-shout "GOD, THAT'S GOOD!" all at the same time on film. I love the "Bless my eyes, fresh supplies," part when Lovett sees a customer going to Sweeney to get a "shave." Also, in the duet between Toby and Lovett...dude, Ed Sanders is just awesome.

By the Sea: Best scene in the history of all cinema. Ever. I was crying because I was laughing so hard. I have the picture of Sweeney and Lovett on the beach in their dorky swimsuits as the wallpaper on my laptop. I love how they were able to transfer this song to the screen so different from the play. So much more was able to be done with it on film, and it was (okay, I've been using this word way too much but...) AWESOME!

Not While I'm Around: How heartbreaking. Like, all you have to do is look into Helena's eyes and you can see how heartbroken she is when she realizes Toby knows way too much and Sweeney has to kill him. Oh my gosh...:'(

Final Scene: EPIC! The five moments when my heart beats super loud:
1. When the beggar woman is looking for the beadle, and Sweeney appears in the doorway. "Hey, don't I know you, mistah?" SLASH! OMG! THUD! (Okay, enough with the sound effects :P).
2. "I suppose the face of a barber, the face of a prisoner in the dark, is not particularly memorable."
"Benjamin Barker?"
"BENJAMIN. BARKER!"
*stab stab stab stab* SLASH!
(does more even need to be said?)
3. "'Don't I know you,' she said." :'( Sweeney finds out he killed his wife. Which leads into...
4. "I was only thinking of you."
"You lied to me."
Wow. These peeps are great actors. Seriously! Mrs. Lovett sing-pleading with Todd, telling him she never said Lucy died, just poisoned herself, and Todd bending over his wife, singing "Ohhhh myyy GODDDDDD!"
Mrs. Lovett: "Yes, I lied 'cause I LOOOOOVE YOOOUUU! I'd be twice the wife she was; I LOOOOVE YOU. Could that thing have cared for you like me?"
And then Sweeney tricks her. Everything is happy, "what's dead is dead." I go CRAZY when Sweeney sings "and life is for the alive, my dear, so let's keep living it, just keep living it, REALLY LIVING IT!" and then he throws her into the furnace! And here, you see everything. Mrs. Lovett bruns to a fiery crisp. Now they really are Mrs. Lovett's meat pies, eh? Okay, that was terrible.
5. And TOBY! When Sweeney sings, "and he was..." and the just stops, it;s like he knows Toby is there. Then...sliiiiiit. Damn, Toby's mad. When Sweeney is dying, it's like he doesn't even care. All he wants is to be with Lucy, so why fight it? "We all deserve to die."


(Sorry for any typos or anything, but I's just wrote a novel of a post, man.)

Partymember 12-27-2007 10:36 AM

im taking my sister to see this. It sounds good :)

Lynnie 12-28-2007 07:04 PM

Talked to a friend at work today who is a HUGE Johnny fan, and as she knows I'm a fan of his too, she told me she went to see the movie last night. As much as I like Johnny, Helena and Tim, I admitted to her it's not exactly my "type" of movie, but I'd heard so many great reviews about it I wouldn't mind seeing it some time. She said it was totally worth it. And she said, and I quote, "There was lots of blood and gore but it was all done so.....beautifully! If that makes any sense..." I couldn't help but laugh at that comment!

Yes, I've heard many great things about this movie. Way to go Mr. Tim B! :yeah:

Howard 01-04-2008 09:21 PM

I saw the original play on Broadway when Angela Lansbury played Mrs. Lovitt.:frankiesmile:

Imaginary Light 01-05-2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duck2k (Post 68536)
I saw the original play on Broadway when Angela Lansbury played Mrs. Lovitt.:frankiesmile:

Did you see it onstage or on the DVD? If you saw it live onstage...I'm jealous :P

Howard 01-05-2008 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imaginary Light (Post 68585)
Did you see it onstage or on the DVD? If you saw it live onstage...I'm jealous :P

I saw it live onstage. My mother used to get Broadway tickets from the club she was in when we lived in New Jersey. The plays I saw:

The original Grease

Beatlemania (Wintergarden Theater)

On the 20th Century (Imogina Coca)

Dracula (Frank Langella)

Cats

Not to mention the number of times I have been to Madison Square Garden for various events, Radio City Music Hall, and two tapings of the 20,000 pyramid with Dick Clark (Leonard Nimoy and Lois Nettleton were the guests on those tapings), we were in the live audience.:frankiesmile:

AerostarMonk 01-14-2008 02:05 PM

Hooray for Sweeney!!!

Sweeney Todd won for both Best Musical or Comedy and Best Actor in Musical or Comedy last night at the Golden Globes.

Congratulations, Tim, Johnny, Helena and the rest of the crew. And a big congrats to Stephen for finally getting his brilliant musical realized on the big screen.

Thanks to these wins, Sweeney is not the long shot for the Oscars anymore but now a front-runner.

frankie_fan 01-25-2008 07:03 PM

Indeed. It's been nominated for Best Actor (Johnny Depp) :frankiesmile:, Best Art Direction and Best Costume Design.

My brother is taking me to see this, as much as I hate gory violence. But I then thought, 'Well, I've seen Sin City, A Nightmare on Elm Street and Freddy vs Jason, so this shouldn't be any different.' Plus, The Producers is the only musical that I like. So, I'll see how I go!

frankie_fan 01-28-2008 04:32 AM

Well, I'm back from the movie, and well, see my review in the Last Movie You Watched thread. :frankiesmile:

xxxClaire 01-28-2008 11:46 AM

I finally saw this the other day. I loved it!!! :D So much blood!

frankie_fan 01-29-2008 09:02 PM

During the By the Sea scene, did anyone get the Beetlejuice reference from Sweeney's swimsuit? :frankiesmile:

jekylljuice 01-31-2008 08:59 AM

I've already left one of my miniature, amateur reviews for this film in the Last Movie You Watched thread. I do, however, have a couple of very specific questions which I thought I was probably better off asking here.

For anyone who's familiar with the original stage musical:

Spoiler Below
What becomes of Anthony and Johanna? One of my only real qualms with this film was that these characters never received any closure at the end, which was kind of a shame since I'd been rooting for them so ardently throughout. I can understand why they opted to end as they did, with Sweeney slowly expiring beside the body of his wife, but there was still something which felt slightly amiss as a result. From what I can make out, the stage version has Anthony and Johanna running in with the police in the aftermath of the final slaughter, though I did question the wisdom of them mixing with the law, given that they are technically fugitives. Either way, are we to take it that things ended happily for them?


This one is more of an observation than a question as such:

Spoiler Below
I thought it was interesting that Mrs. Lovett finally suffered a more brutal and agonising death than Mr. Todd himself...well, not that I'd know from personal experience, but I would have thought that being burned alive would have been a much more terrible way to die than having one's throat slit. Do you take this to mean than the story wants us to view Lovett as a more morally bankrupt character than Mr. Todd himself, given that she was stringing him along with his terrible deeds for the sake of her own emotional gratification? Or do you think that the question of morals was more-or-less irrelevent in this story?


Well, thanks in advance to anyone who can satisfy my curiousity there.

Imaginary Light 01-31-2008 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jekylljuice (Post 70643)
I've already left one of my miniature, amateur reviews for this film in the Last Movie You Watched thread. I do, however, have a couple of very specific questions which I thought I was probably better off asking here.

For anyone who's familiar with the original stage musical:

Spoiler Below
What becomes of Anthony and Johanna? One of my only real qualms with this film was that these characters never received any closure at the end, which was kind of a shame since I'd been rooting for them so ardently throughout. I can understand why they opted to end as they did, with Sweeney slowly expiring beside the body of his wife, but there was still something which felt slightly amiss as a result. From what I can make out, the stage version has Anthony and Johanna running in with the police in the aftermath of the final slaughter, though I did question the wisdom of them mixing with the law, given that they are technically fugitives. Either way, are we to take it that things ended happily for them?


This one is more of an observation than a question as such:

Spoiler Below
I thought it was interesting that Mrs. Lovett finally suffered a more brutal and agonising death than Mr. Todd himself...well, not that I'd know from personal experience, but I would have thought that being burned alive would have been a much more terrible way to die than having one's throat slit. Do you take this to mean than the story wants us to view Lovett as a more morally bankrupt character than Mr. Todd himself, given that she was stringing him along with his terrible deeds for the sake of her own emotional gratification? Or do you think that the question of morals was more-or-less irrelevent in this story?


Well, thanks in advance to anyone who can satisfy my curiousity there.

Spoiler Below
In the original stage musical, Anthony and Johanna turn up in the basement with the law. That's...pretty much it though. It's still left pretty open in the original, albeit less open than in the movie though. I think it's really up to the viewer to determine if everything ended "happily ever after" for the lovers (I don't think it did, honestly. After all that the they had been through...it seems impossible to have a happy ending).

As for Mrs. Lovett's death being more brutal than Sweeney's...I just took the idea of having her burn alive to be the equivalent of what she was doing to all the victims. Sweeney sliced peoples' throats, so he died by having his throat sliced. Mrs. Lovett cooked the people into pies, so she dies by burning in her oven with the pies :P

jekylljuice 01-31-2008 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imaginary Light (Post 70644)
Spoiler Below
In the original stage musical, Anthony and Johanna turn up in the basement with the law. That's...pretty much it though. It's still left pretty open in the original, albeit less open than in the movie though. I think it's really up to the viewer to determine if everything ended "happily ever after" for the lovers (I don't think it did, honestly. After all that the they had been through...it seems impossible to have a happy ending).

As for Mrs. Lovett's death being more brutal than Sweeney's...I just took the idea of having her burn alive to be the equivalent of what she was doing to all the victims. Sweeney sliced peoples' throats, so he died by having his throat sliced. Mrs. Lovett cooked the people into pies, so she dies by burning in her oven with the pies :P

Thanks IL, much appreciated. :)

Spoiler Below
The possibility of Mrs. Lovett's demise being "poetic justice" for her own complicity in Mr. Todd's extremely sinister practices did occur to me, only what really stood out for me is that she went through a lot more suffering than she'd actually put any of her victims through. They, after all, were all dead before she processed them, placed them into pastries and then into the oven. While I can see the appropriateness of her finally being incinerated alongside the fruits of her bloodthirsty labours, I guess I'd have to interpret that additionally nasty aspect of her demise as further emphasis of Sweeney's brutal and unforgiving nature. Prior to her death, I was half-expecting Tobias to intervene and try and save her, as he promised he would in his song, but then again why should he? She was all prepared to betray him to Sweeney.


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