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Cartoon Attraction
If you've been to the "Ticks off" thread then you'll know what this is about, cassini suggested it so I did it. This thread is basically for those of you who feel a mature, emotional, or let's be blunt: sexual attraction to cartoon, animated, or anime females and males.
I want to know do you guys think this is wrong? Is it wrong for an older person or a mature person ala teens, 20's, 30's etc to like cartoons or possibly even be attracted to them? Alot of people today believe that adults watching toons somehow labels them as depraved perverts with no life or any kind of sanity. They think it's a depraved attempt at love like in the vein of parodied geeks fawning over cardboard cut outs or photographs of their favorite celebrities or the fictional charatcers celebs portray. I personally think there is NOTHING wrong or sick or "twisted" with liking a cartoon female or male. I have many toon girls I'm attracted to and I think there's nothing wrong with it, people can fantasize about dating super models and people like Nicole Kidman, how is being drawn to a toon girl or guy any different? You guys know how I feel, now how do the rest of you feel? |
The same way you do. Let's keep the emphasis way off sex in here, though, okay, gang? Anyway, I don't see any difference between being attracted to a cartoon and being attracted to some Hollywood star.
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I don't find it anymore strange or wrong than finding a live-action character attractive, since they aren't real, either. Both live-action and animated characters are the creations of writers, actors/actresses, directors, producers, etc. The main difference is that additional steps are required to bring an animated character "to life", as it were. I think that the reason that some people find certain characters, live-action or animated, so attractive is that the characters represent what they consider to be the Ideal Mate. I know that from MY perspective, Wilt embodies most of the traits I would consider positive in the opposite sex, and I can gather the same from much of what I've read of males' perspective of Frankie! It's much more, in either case, than a matter of finding the character physically attractive.
One of the things I've noticed-and Cassini has brought this up, too-is that the biggest critics of those who DO find animated characters attractive are usually teenagers, who are too full of their own overblown sense of maturity. Anyone who basically thinks different from them has to be "messed up". This view is, of course, part of the fact that they have had little, if any, experience in relationships or life in general, but THINK that they have suddenly acquired all the Knowledge In the World, so therefore they are smarter than the rest of us, and what THEY think is the ONLY reality, period. I can certainly recall having been part of that league myself, of thinking that I had suddenly, by virtue of having come of an age that ended in the suffix "-teen", gotten remarkably smarter than my elders overnight, and that actual experience, gotten over time, meant nothing. I went through a stage where the mere thought of watching anything animated would have made me scoff-only little kids and losers watched "cartoons"! It's ironic that it took age and time and REAL experiences to make me think otherwise! I know that on the IMDb forums, we have had our share of kids who thought that anyone that found animated characters attractive was a pervert-I wonder if Tonya can remember "CopDude", who's constant attacks on Wilt's female fans finally got him banned completely from IMDb! pitbulllady |
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I know, I just wanted to make it clear for everybody else.
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Frankie is more real and more pure to me than most real-life female celebrities. There, I said it. She has true heart and warmth, things that seem to have become extinct amongst many real girls these days. Her attractive physical looks are, IMO, an external reflection of the wonderful person she truly is. I'd rather be happy having genuine affection for a fictional character like her instead of feeling dishonest by forcing myself into a real-life relationship just to fit in with the 'socially acceptable norms' of modern society.
I understand some people take their love of cartoon/anime characters to troubling(and even psychotic) extremes, but the same can be said for almost anything. It's really ignorant and unfair to stereotype everybody who loves a cartoon character as being 'sick' or 'twisted'. |
"You know who i'd really like to"...
Just kidding Cass i don't think its really that strange, i'm attracted to Frankie because she is a representation of ideals, i wish i could find a girl like her. Absolutley the greatest personality ever, and a total goddess so far as beauty goes. I knew a girl like her, exactly like her, but she moved to Florida a few weeks ago. I am never going to get over that. |
There's nothing wrong with loving a cartoon. I'm not sexually attracted to them but if I'm facing a dilemma, my first thoughts are usually gee, what would Cartoon Character X do? SCOOBY DOO HAS NEVER STEERED ME WRONG! XD
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Anyways, forgive me if I'm not entirely coherent since my brain is gone today, but basically (and I think I've said this before but now that there's a thread for it, here it is again): there are a lot of celebrities that I think are physically attractive, but... well, that's it. I've only seen the glitz and Hollywood glamour and the scandals. Celebrities are not "real" to me. Of course they are real and have feelings just like other people, but we don't "know" them. All we see of them aside from their made-up modeling/acting/singing/TV hosting/okay seriously what does Paris Hilton do I really don't know selves is "NICOLE RICHIE ATE A HAMBURGER!" and "BRAD AND ANGELINA -- THIS ONE'S FROM YUGOSLAVIA!" articles, blurry photos, misconstrued quotes from interviews and the like. But we see fictional characters when they're sad, we see them when they're happy, we see them when they're jealous and scheming for all the wrong reasons and when they've just woken up and their good days and bad days. Now, I'm not saying that fictional characters are real or should be considered as such -- I merely find it easier to get attached to someone whose daily life and ups and downs and entire personality we see, be they real or no, than to someone who is 50% plastic and always has to be on the lookout for the paparazzi. |
I feel that there is nothing wrong with being attracted with a cartoon character at all. Yes it CAN be taken too far, but we are better than that. It's already been said beutifuly by Vox about why Frankie is so wonderful but I'll try and use my own words.
I fell in love with Frankies character because she houses all the traits that I look for in a woman. She's kind, loveing, patiant (mostly8D ) and accepting. Her voice also appeals to me greatly and I would love to hear it everyday. Frankies appearance, while stylized since she IS a cartoon, is also pleasing to me because she isant trying to be hot or sexy. She's pretty, wich is what I like. I've been attracted to many female cartoon characters before. I used to be very attracted to Sango from Inuyasha for many of the same reasons that I love Frankie for but nowhere near the same amount. She was more of a crush where Frankie is, dare I say, a genuin love. Now I want to show how I COULD take my love of Frankie too far (nothing rule breaking ofcourse). Since she is pretty much the ideal woman to me, and I have her in a sence dosent mean that I have given up on real woman. While I hope to find a lady very much like Frankie, I'm not looking for her reallife equivalant. I happen to chat with a very lovely and kind lady on another board who happens to be very much like Frankie in both looks and personality but I'm not going to start stalking her or hounding her, besides she's already spoken for.8D I know that I'll find Mrs. Right someday but I'll always have Frankie in my heart... and on the season dvds when they get released. |
As much as I appreciate the Frankie love guys (and I seriously do) I would just like to suggest for future posts that this doesn't get turned into a Frankie thread. I know she's a cartoon girl and I myself have admitted to dying to want to date such a sweet, and caring girl.
But I don't want this to become just about her, she's already got a thread and I don't want another clone. Just a thought you guys ;). |
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Well-put, Kageri. It's much easier to feel for a character than an actual celebrity, because as you said, we see their good, their bad, their actions and choices, and all the stuff in between.
I personally don't see anything wrong with having feelings for a cartoon/anime/other character, or in that sense, "looking up" to a character and thinking "What would _______ do?" Another reason I see no problem in being physically attracted to a character is because they are drawn (for the most part) to look perfect. Think about all the anime girls/guys you see... 99% of them are beautiful, girls having large chests, flat tummies, long legs, hourglass figures, etc., and guys having muscular builds, handsome faces, etc., and almost all of them have beautiful, form-fitting clothing that perfectly shows them off. Even if a character isn't anime, they're still drawn to look almost flawless, and if they aren't, it's usually for story progression. I mean, look at Frankie, she's not anime, but she's still drawn to be really pretty. |
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I don't think that theres anything wrong with it ether. I myself have had a few cartoon/anime/game crushes on guys and gals (I'm bi.) Sure my mom thinks I'm crazy, but she doesn't even like cartoons to begin with so there really isn't any way to explain to her :(
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lets see.. i wont name them all, maybe not even any, because over the years i can name a bajillion. mostly though from animes and other shows from CN and those kind of shows. ill name some when they come to mind
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I almost always find a character in my fandoms that I feel "attracted" to, although many times I'm much more attracted to their personalities and inner selves than anything about their appearance. For example, Eduardo! I would never consider myself physically attracted to him, but I just absolutely love his personality. Same with Wilt! :)
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To the chagrin of my fiancee, I am attracted to many toon females, that go back to being five years of age. I find nothing wrong with it, as long as I know what is real and what is fantasy. I have my own cartoon creations, and I write stories on these creations; in essence I have created some female characters that are based off of real women I was attracted to over the years. You would be suprised to find out how many people are "closet toon lovers.":frankiesmile:
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I'm trying to think of something to say that hasn't been said...yet I can't:P But yeah. I actually, believe it or not, have a lot of friends that are attracted to animated characters. There really is nothing wrong with it. I, myself, find myself attracted to Victor Van Dort (surprise, surprise). My best friend and I always talk about what an awesome boyfriend he would make. He's so shy and timid, yet so compassionate and not shallow in the least. I mean, when you look at real people, and for me, real guys, most of them are jerks. Especially at my age. They're all shallow jerks. Of course there are a select few that don't fall into that category (and I can actually think of some specific examples), but really...there's not much to a teenaged guy than looks, most of the time (don't stomp on me for that statement; I said most of the time:P )
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My earliest toon crushes came from (not surprisingly) anime, since anime purposely design their women to be smoking hotties from the start. Misty from Pokemon was a big thing for me, and the first "crush" I actually got really deep into.
As in, I would SO date her if she was real, deep. I found alot of similarities to her in personality and I always felt it was cute she was trying to be romantic and never got anywhere with it. I also had a thing for Gadget from Rescue Rangers, who surprisingly, has a GOD sized following behind her, mostly males too. Most of the crushes I have had though have been with toon girls that are not like me personality wise. Kei from Dirty Pair Flash for example was a very large crush of mine, but she was very different personally and yet I was still drawn to her. Part of it WAS for physical beauty, I'm not gonna lie about that with Kei. But most of it was compassion and sympathy because she got ripped on alot because she wasn't a "girlie girl", and I can relate to being stereotyped or ridiculed for acting/thinking differently. Frankie's my new current toon love of my life, and honestly a girl I think is more real then real can be defined. And that's all I'm gonna say bout Frankie in here. |
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After rummaging through some of my youtube subscriptions, I feel like such an ass for not posting this toon girl crush. Not only does she got a passion for romance and ISN'T overly annoying and obnoxious when it comes to showing it.
But she's in my favorite color as well: Fifi La Fume from Tiny Toons! She's such a sweet skunk, and I never realized how much I was charmed by her until I watched Tiny Toons more recently. EDIT: Btw, I was thinking maybe I should change this to a "who are your cartoon crushes" thread instead, what do you guys think? Or should I just start it in the "other media" seciton? |
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On a whim I picked up a book titled "Sailor Scout Guide: Meet Sailor Jupiter" from eBay, where I've been spending far too much money lately. I'd almost forgotten what a class act she was; kind of reminds me of Frankie in some ways. :frankiesmile: |
It's ok to be attracted to a character, but some people take that too far.
Saying you love the character isn't. Saying that he/she is "yours" and/or are married to the character is. I'll shut up now. :D |
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I also felt she was the most shafted, her character got the least "centered episodes" on her out of all the scouts. And I felt so sad because she along with Venus never managed to land a boyfriend deserving of them. Moon, Mars, Mercury, Mini Moon, Uranus, and Neptune :slybendy: all settled down with someone. |
I used to have a crush on Fifi La'Pewh aswell. And I never really liked the show Sailor Moon but I do like Sailor Mercury. She is a very wholesom and kind person who wasant as overblown when it came to sex appeal. She was just pretty and that's how I've grown to like woman. It sickens me seeing all these Barbie-like girls running around in cartoons.:(
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I personally could relate to Mercury's shy attitude but I was no where near the study geek, genius, computer master she was. As Cass knows too well,Jupiter is my all time favorite sailor girl and I still to date have a big crush on that super sailor hottie.
I always found her character and her voice actor to be very appealing, and she didn't come off as anything but a strong, determined friend who was dedicated to her friends and was not snippy, rude, or sexed up or egotistical. The ego thing is what bothered me about Sailor Mars and occasionally Sailor Moon. I also got drawn to the Jupiter that she was always the loneliest and never really settled with a good boyfriend, I know Venus, Pluto, and Saturn also never got boyfriends, but Jupiter's bugged me more because the fact she wanted a boyfriend was a running gag of sorts with her. "Southern toons" seem to have a big crushing affect on me, Rogue from X-men the original 90's series I liked, but especially from loveable Bunnie Rabbot: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nieRabbott.jpg From the Sonic SATam cartoon series and Archie comics, I find her to be absolutely adorable. |
Frankie, just hot & amazing & nice.
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She's not egotistical, she's not overly sexy, and she never does anything for herself, even with her cooking, she just seems obsessed with putting others before herself. Just like you say Cass, who wouldn't want to settle down with a great girl like Jupiter? |
I myself have had strong fondness of characters in past cartoons, but never to the point of actually 'loving' them. For me, that is a terrible thing to happen since you'd pin your emotions on a person that doesn't really exist. They can never return your feelings, they can't be there for you when you really need them, or anything along those lines. I'm not saying I think lowly of those who do, that is their life and their choice who they love and how. But for me personally, loving a fictional character just isn't right.
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Being someone who's usually the first one to draw the line between real love and obsessional fictional love, I honestly have to say that I agree with Cass. They may not have physical arms or words to hold you with but that doesn't mean they can't be "there" for you.
In a sense, animated characters represent ideas and identities that we can love and cherish. A character's personality can be so admirable that just by watching them or hearing them speak alone can inspire great feelings inside of us. People get inspired by songs, books, stuffed animals, billboards, even quotes. All non living things and non "hugging" things that continue to affect us emotionally. Something I do often in my daydreams is fantasize about the idea of what if one of those characters ended up here? What if as I stare out my car window as it drives by a landscape, I see someone fictional fall from the sky? Is it wrong to actually dream to want to feel a fictional cartoon character, to actually imagine what they would say, how they would talk to you, or even to get a bit more personal, what would they think of you? I don't believe it is wrong because as long as you know the difference, they are always helping. Sailor Jupiter or Frankie may not be flesh and blood enough to hug me when I feel sad, but that doesn't mean that they cannot inspire me to feel just as good about myself as if someone was really holding me. Cartoons inspire the world we want to live in, where things are simple, fantastic, and unique. But they also inspire us as individuals, and that to me is a sign of being touched by a cartoon girl or guy for that matter. They are the animated representations of dreams and ideas that people overlook and disregard, they are the windows to people that we could all learn a thing or two from. They may not be real but the impact they have on us as individuals and more importantly, for me, as a human being, is more powerful and more emotionally life changing then any woman I have personally met in my lifetime. |
I was going to post something here... but then I saw Mr. M basically wrote my own feelings, in a clearer and more wonderful way than I ever could've. He's 100% right.
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Indeed he is. That covers everything I wanted to say, and is one of the most beautiful things I've seen written on this Forum in a long time. :frankiesmile:
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*takes a bow* Thank you very much, and everything I said I mean with my heart 100% :frankiesmile: |
It's okay to be inspired by cartoons or to find comfort in them. I think CG was more talkin about the people that think because they have a crush on an anime character, the character is their boyfriend and they're going to get a house together with pink flamingos in the lawn and tulips in the garden and have lots of kawaiiiii children whos eyes take up two-thirds of their face and who save the world before bedtime desu desu desu.
I've seen people on forums go on about how they're afraid to start a real relationship because it would feel like they're cheating on like Inuyasha. |
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