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CCMars 11-25-2006 07:10 PM

I finally got to watch this! VERY cute movie! It's not the best in the world, no, but then again no TV movie ever is, so it's pretty close. ;P

I felt the conflict between Wilt and Larry could have gone longer. Not the game itself, but more of the dynamics between the two of them and their creators. Larry was created out of jealousy and the burning desire to win (thus his actions on the court and thus why I don't hate him at all), and seeing what HIS creator looked like made me curious about...well, a lot of things. :nyah: Floofy and her family annoyed the heck out of me (I do not like cutesy Elmer-Fudd-With-a-Baby-Voice talk, period), so I do think that could have been replaced with something else.

Aww, Eduardo and Nina! Every scene with them interacting made me smile. Loved Coco and her nerds as well. Since she seems to know exactly what to expect from them, I can't help but think she studied them more than they studied her. *laughs*

With his theories on Wilt and his past, Bloo would fit right in with us. XD

The movie definately left some open-ended questions here too (Coco, bent arm vs. missing arm), but I'm actually okay with that. In my view it's a thinking man's show under the guise of a children's comedy, and that's one of the things that makes Fosters as good a show as it is.

Jabberwocky 11-25-2006 11:31 PM

AL CAPONE! 8D

I--

Blah blah blah gosh I really have nothing to say that someone hasn't already said in the past seventeen pages of this thread. ;)

Well, I loved the movie. Fairly Bloo-less :(, but whatever, it's not his movie. Wilt is adorable. He looks freakishly like a snail with two good eyes though. Maybe that's why the one got killed so easily? Snail eyes aren't that strong, you can poke a stalk out. I'm assuming.

Nina and her compulsive ticket-dispensing was awesome too. Blah blah blah spanglish. The whole Floofy thing could have been done without though. A random interlude of operatic narration by Sherrod Brown would've been better. A clip of Sweating to the Oldies. Anything but the goofiewoofie baby talk.

So basically the whole movie is great except for the stupid teddy bear.

DoubleLatte 11-25-2006 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 18139)
Wilt's "legend" status took place during the movie, as he made his way cross-country on that rusty old lawnmower, NOT during that eight-year-period between him being injured and arriving at Foster's. It was a joke, really, him being considered a "legend" by the people of the small town(where obviously there were no lawnmowers or lawn-care specialists)because he, being Wilt, felt he needed to help out by annonymously cutting the grass for everyone, a good deed that the judge felt needed rewarding by releasing Wilt and dropping the charges against him. His status as a "legend" was in that little town only, and due solely to that one incident. There's nothing in the judge's speech to indicate he'd heard of Wilt except because of that. He even refers to Wilt as "The Lawn Ranger"!

pitbulllady

But see, the thing is, we don't know what happened to Wilt during that 8 year period, and what TheLH suggested is actually a pretty good speculation. I've read the book and I agree. Just as Wilt became "The Lawn Ranger" in that small town, he might have also acquired different names in different places and became an urban legend for his good deeds among the locals during those eight years. He may not be known accross the country as a humanitarian phenomenon, but I'm not inclined to brush off the idea that Wilt might have already gathered a reputation for helping out random folks all over the place, even if they don't know him by name or even interacted with him directly, much like the judge mentioned. Who's to confirm that Wilt only established a reputation after the movie and only in that town? We don't know every single place he's been to or what he's done, but he obviously has had deep-seated feelings for years to want to help as many people as possible in a self-less manner to compensate for his "failure". I would NOT put it past Wilt to have actually spent those years moving from place to place, lending a hand and impressing several people for whom altruism is an alien concept, and eventually finding Foster's.

Mr. Marshmallow 11-25-2006 11:55 PM

I'm late giving my 2 cents on this thing and those who visited the "way off topic" forum section will know why. But anyways, I just got done watching the timer recorded Foster's movie and while a scratched the surface of the ass load of posts to this thread, I didn't really have the energy to go through all of em.

Anyways I gave this movie an A, although an A- would be more accurate but regardless, this was a fantastic and very likeable movie. It had MINOR and I mean MINOR problems outside of an overall wonderful first venture into films for the Foster's gang. There were so many well thought out things used here.

Wilt actually taking the initiative and guts to leave Foster's in order to settle things with Fowl Larry, while at the same time still being "Wilt", was an excellent touch. I thought it was great Wilt remained in character while at the same time showing growth and evolution in his personality as he continued his journey.

The lawnmower idea was great in the beginning, I didn't see that coming. The Foster's gang got an equal amount of air time which I LOVED, no offense to Wilt fans, but I think the movie would have sucked if it was JUST Wilt all the time and had no one else to play off of.

I was so estactic to see Frankie getting a long awaited air time increase, as I said before, the geeks drooling over her was a hilarious idea. I totally felt that was a poke at me and the other Frankie fans on the board (I could be wrong but hey, it was a gag I loved nonetheless). Eduardo and Nina stole the show.

It was really interesting to see how Eduardo was created and how he ended up switching roles with Nina in terms of scary person to scared person etc. The fact a cop created such a scary looking yet pillowy IF who acts like a kitten to Nina's baby jibberish and cat purrs was just adorable.

Also, Wilt actually admitting to not only wanting to stay at Foster's for his friends sake but to help out future kids was a very moving idea. It shows Wilt is thinking about more then himself and Jordan and that he wants to help everyone, even if it slows his own goals down (like all those jobs he did).

Now for the "Negative" which is why I wanted an A- instead of a straight up A. Wilt and Eduardo both got pretty detailed character creator looks into their lives, yet were represented with only the people who FOUND Coco, not who made her. It just seemed out of context to leave Coco out this way.

To me, it would have made more sense to reveal Coco's creator in this same movie since they went to the trouble of doing Wilt and Eduardo's in the same one. Second, the Judge with the whole "lawnmower legend" crap was kinda stupid. It just seemed like too far'fetchd to swallow to be funny to me.

Like your pushing the ignorance is bliss joke here with a cartoon. Thirdly, while I understand how Wilt lost his arm, I found the basketball crushing his eye to be weak....literally. It just seemed rather flimsy that something as mundane and hardly that heavy could crush Wilt's eye permanently like that.

This also brings up my confusion as to where those stitches came up on his "whiskers" or cheeks if you will. Unless he scraped his face on the fall (which they didn't really show), I still don't know how they got there. Finally, my last complaint comes with the rapid conclusion of Fowl Ball Larry.

While i loved seeing another new IF villain like Little Lincoln and the SpaceNut Boogies (not to mention being voiced by the very talented Kevin Michael Richardson), I thought his reformation was WAYYY to freaking soon. He was bad for 30 years and then suddenly becomes good after one single game?

It seemed way too Disney that he would suddenly become good and be all right with coming to Foster's after taking so much glee, and joy in knowing he destroyed Wilt's creator relationship and mashed up his body like a pretzel. Unless they plan on using him later on, there didn't seem to be a point to it.

Overrall, I was more satisfied with this then the very annoyingly concocted and hollowly hyped "Make believe it or not". I thought this was while not as well rounded and a great a story teller as "House of Bloo's". There was so much to enjoy here, and such a great balance between all the characters.

Its finally nice to see Wilt and Eduardo's backgrounds and to see how much the Fosters gang needs Wilt and vice versa. And aside from those occasional irks that I said before, I really enjoyed this movie and eagerly look forward to hopefully many more future Foster films.

pitbulllady 11-26-2006 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow (Post 18278)
I'm late giving my 2 cents on this thing and those who visited the "way off topic" forum section will know why. But anyways, I just got done watching the timer recorded Foster's movie and while a scratched the surface of the ass load of posts to this thread, I didn't really have the energy to go through all of em.

Anyways I gave this movie an A, although an A- would be more accurate but regardless, this was a fantastic and very likeable movie. It had MINOR and I mean MINOR problems outside of an overall wonderful first venture into films for the Foster's gang. There were so many well thought out things used here.

Wilt actually taking the initiative and guts to leave Foster's in order to settle things with Fowl Larry, while at the same time still being "Wilt", was an excellent touch. I thought it was great Wilt remained in character while at the same time showing growth and evolution in his personality as he continued his journey.

The lawnmower idea was great in the beginning, I didn't see that coming. The Foster's gang got an equal amount of air time which I LOVED, no offense to Wilt fans, but I think the movie would have sucked if it was JUST Wilt all the time and had no one else to play off of.

I was so estactic to see Frankie getting a long awaited air time increase, as I said before, the geeks drooling over her was a hilarious idea. I totally felt that was a poke at me and the other Frankie fans on the board (I could be wrong but hey, it was a gag I loved nonetheless). Eduardo and Nina stole the show.

It was really interesting to see how Eduardo was created and how he ended up switching roles with Nina in terms of scary person to scared person etc. The fact a cop created such a scary looking yet pillowy IF who acts like a kitten to Nina's baby jibberish and cat purrs was just adorable.

Also, Wilt actually admitting to not only wanting to stay at Foster's for his friends sake but to help out future kids was a very moving idea. It shows Wilt is thinking about more then himself and Jordan and that he wants to help everyone, even if it slows his own goals down (like all those jobs he did).

Now for the "Negative" which is why I wanted an A- instead of a straight up A. Wilt and Eduardo both got pretty detailed character creator looks into their lives, yet were represented with only the people who FOUND Coco, not who made her. It just seemed out of context to leave Coco out this way.

To me, it would have made more sense to reveal Coco's creator in this same movie since they went to the trouble of doing Wilt and Eduardo's in the same one. Second, the Judge with the whole "lawnmower legend" crap was kinda stupid. It just seemed like too far'fetchd to swallow to be funny to me.

Like your pushing the ignorance is bliss joke here with a cartoon. Thirdly, while I understand how Wilt lost his arm, I found the basketball crushing his eye to be weak....literally. It just seemed rather flimsy that something as mundane and hardly that heavy could crush Wilt's eye permanently like that.

This also brings up my confusion as to where those stitches came up on his "whiskers" or cheeks if you will. Unless he scraped his face on the fall (which they didn't really show), I still don't know how they got there. Finally, my last complaint comes with the rapid conclusion of Fowl Ball Larry.

While i loved seeing another new IF villain like Little Lincoln and the SpaceNut Boogies (not to mention being voiced by the very talented Kevin Michael Richardson), I thought his reformation was WAYYY to freaking soon. He was bad for 30 years and then suddenly becomes good after one single game?

It seemed way too Disney that he would suddenly become good and be all right with coming to Foster's after taking so much glee, and joy in knowing he destroyed Wilt's creator relationship and mashed up his body like a pretzel. Unless they plan on using him later on, there didn't seem to be a point to it.

Overrall, I was more satisfied with this then the very annoyingly concocted and hollowly hyped "Make believe it or not". I thought this was while not as well rounded and a great a story teller as "House of Bloo's". There was so much to enjoy here, and such a great balance between all the characters.

Its finally nice to see Wilt and Eduardo's backgrounds and to see how much the Fosters gang needs Wilt and vice versa. And aside from those occasional irks that I said before, I really enjoyed this movie and eagerly look forward to hopefully many more future Foster films.


Gotta agree with you on pretty much everything there. I guess that the reason we have not learned more in the movie about Coco's creator is that Craig has actually told us, in great detail, on his blog about who created her, so it's really no mystery to those who have actually read it, although we still don't know what happened to that little girl. Perhaps this is Craig's way of letting us know that Coco's creator is deceased, without actually bringing up the topic of her death on the show. And, it's also possible that a movie/special about Coco is in the works, and they just don't want to give away too much, too soon.

I'm also bothered by the whole deal with the eye. While a basketball falling from a great height COULD have injured the eye and eye stalk, it would not seem to be a permament thing, nor would it account for why the eye now seems to be fake and plastic-y and is much smaller, Injuriess create swelling, initially. Again, since eye injuries can be very nasty to look at, though, I guess that they had to go with a more cartoonish approach to avoid the gross-out factor. As for the stitches appearing on Wilt's cheek, if you look closely, they are not there when he's lying injured on the court, thinking of Jordan. Then, they appear when you see him peering around the corner of a building at Jordan through the rain, and when you see him leave, they're gone again. We've pretty much chalked that up to an animation mistake, like the deal with Eduardo's here-again/gone-again pants in "The Big Cheese", or Mr. Herriman's monocle switching sides of his face in more than one episode, or Blake Superior's face being gray(as opposed to the usual striped tiger face)and looking like one of the "Berenstein Bears" of the popular children's books for a brief moment in "Hiccy Burp".

There are actually several probably spoofs of fans in this movie, besides the two nerds drooling over Frankie. I'm sure that Bloo's out-there theories as to who created Wilt, along with him assuming that Wilt was a bad guy and had returned to his "life of crime", are a good-natured dig at those of us, myself included, who've had some really out-there theories ourselves as to Wilt's past!

pitbulllady

pi

InsaneFan 11-26-2006 08:50 AM

Hah, yes, I figured Bloo's crazy ideas were some sorta joke directed at us fans. Not just 'us' meaning Never Forgotten, but like, ALL of us fans...Wilt fans anyways...:gooblab: Will stop repeating people now.

swarlock 11-26-2006 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fomalhaut (Post 18031)
Okay I might be stupid, but how is Wilt so cheerful after having lived with all that guilt for 30 years?

Because he never gives up hope or on life either.

It doesn't take that much to be mean or nasty in this life. But hope is there when you really want it.

McGee's Jabberwock 11-26-2006 12:04 PM

Aw, geez, what can I say that hasn't been said earlier in this topic? It was a good film, great character development for Wilt, allowing us to see more sides of him we don't see in the show. The relationship between Eduardo and Nina was cute, and Douglas and Adam were humourous. But, for some reason, it wasn't as poignant as I had hoped. Don't know why.

BTW, wasn't Looney Tunes Back in Acton called 'The Anti-Space Jam?'

Invader Bloo 11-26-2006 12:14 PM

No, it wasn't. It was just called "Back in Action".
Space Jam was a LT movie released in the mid-90's.

Mr. Marshmallow 11-26-2006 01:12 PM

"Back in action" was designed as a sort of "insult" to Space Jam. For some reason which to this day I cannot for the life of me understand, Space Jam was slammed by Looney fans because they said it did a crappy job representing the Toon characters and made them act differently and out of character.

Back in action was more hardlined into improving on Space Jam's mistakes by making the actors more interactive with the toons, which Michael Jordan did very LITTLE of. The problem was Back in action was similar to a fart in the wind in theaters, it came and went with very few people noticing it sadly.

I actually enjoyed both films equally. I don't really know how Space Jam worked into this movie aside from the whole basketball fight finish thing, even tho Space Jam did do it alot better. But again I loved this movie, the only thing that bothered me was how quick Fowl Larry just turned good and was all "sorry".

Holding a grudge for 30 years and waiting his whole life for a rematch with Wilt seems like a villainious thing to do, not something you brush off your shoulder and act like everything peachy keen again. I also agree with Pitbull, I find the fact that Wilt's eye was so fragile to be kind of cheap and tacky.

Unless that basketball was loaded with bricks, his eye shouldn't have been totally crushed and squeezed out like that for the rest of his life.

Jabberwocky 11-26-2006 01:21 PM

I was thinking about the eye thing too. Eyes aren't that strong though, and Wilt's have no skull for protection. They're just squishy balls of eye on stalks. Basketballs can be pretty hard, and I bet if Larry through one at your face you'd get some whiplash. At a bare eye? It's not so crazy.

Mr. Marshmallow 11-26-2006 01:24 PM

Eyes on a human and an imaginary friend can be very different. And besides, doesn't this mean that in the show at anytime someone hits or lets something fall on Wilt's head could also crush and permanently blind Wilt's other eye?

He bashed his head through the roof in "Blooooo", had the door slammed on his face in "Where there's a wilt there's a way", and had his head repeatively slammed into the ground by Goo in "Neighbor Pains". All could have crushed his eye.

If his eyes are that sensitive, then everyone had better watch what lands on Wilt's head or he'll go blind.

Jabberwocky 11-26-2006 01:28 PM

Well they do sort of look like snail eyes. Mind you my idea of a snail is Gary from Spongebob.

Maybe the other eye is... stronger? I'll think of something. XD They couldn't make it too gross though. Chances are if his eye had like, gotton squished by Larry too, there would be eye all over the basketball court.

Mr. Marshmallow 11-26-2006 01:31 PM

Yeah but there are ways to work around that. Like if you say he got hit by a car, you wouldn't need to show Wilt actually getting struck just the sound and just show him coming out of surgery or something like that. There are ways to work around it.

Or if Larry had landed completely on Wilt, like all over him, that would have made more sense because we know Larry is big and heavy enough to do that kind of damage on a fall. You could have just shown Wilt getting up after Larry got off of him and had Wilt with all the scars and damages.

I doubt their worried about it being too violent because technically, it still was violent. I mean Wilt's arm was screwed up but he has a nub now which means at some point he either tor it off or it fell off. That's pretty gross too.

Jabberwocky 11-26-2006 01:39 PM

Yeah, but squiggly lines aren't disgusting, even if they're an arm, and we don't know what happened to it. If he fell completely on Wilt he'd probably be dead.

I keep thinking about that one scene in Kill Bill 2. Ahhh eyeballs.

Whatever, cartoon logic. If you can poke an eye out with a stick, you can poke one out with a basketball probably thrown with the force of a cannon. It's not that important anyway.

pitbulllady 11-26-2006 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jabberwocky (Post 18433)
I was thinking about the eye thing too. Eyes aren't that strong though, and Wilt's have no skull for protection. They're just squishy balls of eye on stalks. Basketballs can be pretty hard, and I bet if Larry through one at your face you'd get some whiplash. At a bare eye? It's not so crazy.

It's not the matter or whether or not a basketball COULD have caused SOME sort of injurty to Wilt's eye, but after being hit, it was like the eye just suddenly shrank down to half the size it was, and became hard and plastic-like, with the pupil rolling around inside like those little plastic "googly" eyes on dolls. A pupil is a HOLE, not a solid object that can rattle around and make noise. Immediately after an eye is subjected to injury, from either a puncture or a blunt-force blow(as would be the case of being hit with a basketball), the eye swell, not shrinks. If left untreated, eventually the swelling can actually cause the eyeball to rupture, due to pressure from secondary glaucoma(non-disease-related, non-genetic). After the pressure is released, if normal blood flow is not restored, the fluids in the eye will dry up and the eye will atrophy, or shrink, and of course be totally blind. It WON'T rattle or turn to plastic, though. I still think that this is just the way that the creative team decided to handle that situation, knowing that there really was no other way to show an eye injury that wouldn't put people off their lunches for the next couple of days, and sort of say to the smarter ones in the audience, "OK, we know that the eye injury would have looked a LOT worse, so you can just figure that part out-meanwhile, we have to think of the little kids and try not to give them nightmares."

I have some problems buying into Larry's sudden transformation, too, unless he and HIS creator were just as close as Wilt and Jordan. Apparently, Larry has long since been abandoned, himself, and seeing the reunion between Wilt and Jordan sparked enough fond memories of the good old days when he was still with his creator to open his heart. I kinda do like that, because people can and do change-it just seems to me like that should have taken longer. It's even more odd, though, that everyone else seems to have forgiven Foul Larry just as quickly as he changed from evil to good. I know, as bad as it is, that I, along with most of us, are not that forgiving, and it takes time to come to terms with someone who's done you a great wrong, or hurt someone you really care for. I was a bit bothered by Frankie being so nonchalant with Larry there at the end, KNOWING that he had severely injured Wilt, someone she should care about as a good friend at least, and she SAW him try to crush Wilt against the wall herself. I know I'd have trouble being civilized to someone I'd just seen try to hurt, let alone KILL, someone I cared about, no matter how they were acting towards me.

And, one more question about Larry...if Larry has long-since been abandoned, and more or less living on the streets, as it appeared, HOW did Wilt manage to call him on the phone before leaving? Wouldn't Larry have to at least have a cell phone, and if so, how would he pay for the thing, and how would Wilt have known the number, since cell phone numbers aren't public information. For Wilt to know the number, would imply that Larry still lived at the same address, and had the same phone number, that he had thirty years ago-and that Wilt has even more awesome memory of number sequences than Cheese does!


pitbulllady

Jabberwocky 11-26-2006 01:48 PM

Ohh, I see. Well, it's cute. I wouldn't want them to do it any other way, his rattling crazy eye is awesome. Imaginary anatomy can be different from regular anatomy anyway. It's silly to try and analyze his injuries with normal logic; the iris could've turned into a potato chip and it'd be okay cause he's imaginary.

I agree about the Larry thing though. That was just weird.

CG 11-26-2006 03:44 PM

Yeah I try not to be TOO realistic. It is a cartoon after all. I'm not condensending it; just stating facts. Foster's goes against alot of laws physically and everything else. Not everything has to be 100% correct to the letter.

Besides, here's something I thought of. Given we've finally seen what the information on the Foster's website looks like from the movie; it clearly states where the friend was created, what year, and who by. Don't you think that once the information becomes available on Wilt that he was created by Jordan Michael he just might be adopted sooner then later? I mean, little kids who idolise their sports stars like to get any if everything they do. But imagine actually being a little kid who likes playing basketball and wanting to improve their game, learning that the imaginary friend of THE Jordan Michael is up for adoption? It's just an idea.

Mr. Marshmallow 11-26-2006 03:56 PM

I always thought it would be wise of Foster's to avoid the fact that more then half of the Fosters 5 is up for adoption. We all know Coco, Eduardo, and Wilt are up for adoption as opposed to Bloo's reason for being there, but in reality, they can't really ever get adopted. Not unless the show's about to end.

Let's face it, we really never want them to get adopted because if they did it would be really sad knowing there gonna leave Fosters for good. Wilt needs to remain there and the whole adoption thing should remain just a side story in regards to the Fosters 5 guys.

The adoption thing really is only ever used in the story when they want to create a new IF to become the star of the episode and either get adopted or booted out (like Berry and Little Lincoln) at the end. Or to make way for some new IF they want to bring in to join the background IFs.

some guy you dont know 11-26-2006 03:59 PM

ok, well i thought it was pretty good, had enough funny scenes in it, both sides got equal air time, and they let wilt keep character while trying to find his opponet.

what i didnt like, though, was not only that they didnt show who created coco, but that they had her "discovered" by some nerds. and what i dont get is, if they are studying her, why is she in fosters and not with them at the lab or whatever? maybe she ran away or something.

i also dont like the ending much, because i dont like seeing someone thats been evil for somewhere around 30 years just turning good in 5 minuites. and now that they are there, id better see more of larry and stats and those other basketball guys. thats what im looking forward to.

btw, i wanted to comment on one of my favorite sceenes, the part at the bus stop. i thought it had some great parts to it, along with a few quotes that stick to my head. "everything wants to belong to something, right?"

i like how coco was like the mother to those nerds. probably my favorite thing in the movie. i gave it an A

pitbulllady 11-26-2006 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by some guy you dont know (Post 18482)
ok, well i thought it was pretty good, had enough funny scenes in it, both sides got equal air time, and they let wilt keep character while trying to find his opponet.

what i didnt like, though, was not only that they didnt show who created coco, but that they had her "discovered" by some nerds. and what i dont get is, if they are studying her, why is she in fosters and not with them at the lab or whatever? maybe she ran away or something.

i also dont like the ending much, because i dont like seeing someone thats been evil for somewhere around 30 years just turning good in 5 minuites. and now that they are there, id better see more of larry and stats and those other basketball guys. thats what im looking forward to.

btw, i wanted to comment on one of my favorite sceenes, the part at the bus stop. i thought it had some great parts to it, along with a few quotes that stick to my head. "everything wants to belong to something, right?"

i like how coco was like the mother to those nerds. probably my favorite thing in the movie. i gave it an A

Apparently, even though Imaginary Friends do not have the same rights that we humans do, they cannot be used as "lab rats", either. If Coco did not want to remain with Douglas and Adam, she didn't have to. They probably realized after awhile that she WAS an IF, and realized that the best place for her would be with a family that has kids, and barring that situation, an adoption home where she could be cared for and given a chance to find a family. They could still study her and follow her progress, regardless of where she was. They may be nerds/geeks, but they are not insensitive or ignorant when it comes to Coco. Besides, Adam probably got tired of having this odd-looking second "mother" around all the time, telling him what to wear, etc.

I personally would hope that Larry gets adopted ASAP, as Frankie thought he would. I don't hate him, but I find it very hard to believe that all his animosity towards Wilt, and vice versa, is just gonna disappear, just like that. Wilt may act more civilized of the two, but it has GOT to be painful to have to look at the one who left him in that physical condition and tried to kill both him AND his kid, every morning at the breakfast table. As good-natured and forgiving as Wilt is, he still would have difficulty dealing with THAT. Plus, both of them are highly competitive, and they take competition far more seriously than most, for whom it's just fun. It would be kinda tense, to say the least-like having two big male Pit Bulls running loose in the house, who've already gotten in a couple of bad "scraps". Sooner or later, one is gonna say the wrong thing or do something the other finds objectionable, and it's gonna be on...and I DON'T mean on the basketball court!

pitbulllady

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Originally Posted by CG (Post 18477)
Yeah I try not to be TOO realistic. It is a cartoon after all. I'm not condensending it; just stating facts. Foster's goes against alot of laws physically and everything else. Not everything has to be 100% correct to the letter.

Besides, here's something I thought of. Given we've finally seen what the information on the Foster's website looks like from the movie; it clearly states where the friend was created, what year, and who by. Don't you think that once the information becomes available on Wilt that he was created by Jordan Michael he just might be adopted sooner then later? I mean, little kids who idolise their sports stars like to get any if everything they do. But imagine actually being a little kid who likes playing basketball and wanting to improve their game, learning that the imaginary friend of THE Jordan Michael is up for adoption? It's just an idea.

I thought about that, too. I mean, Wilt WAS created by a celebrity, and as such, he basically is genetically related to that person(as if their behavior and speech patterns doesn't bear that out, in spite of having been separated for 30 years). That would seem to make him a hot commodity among kids and even celebrity groupie types who would go so far as to pretend to have kids just to adopt him(hey...that's a thought...). It would be like owning a car that once belonged to a movie star or something. I guess as long as Wilt has been there, though, he must have SOME say-so in who adopts him, and I guess if it just doesn't "feel" right, he has the right to decline. It's not like he is a lot of trouble(unlike certain other IF's)-far from it. Frankie would have to hire somebody from the outside and pay them to do as much for her as Wilt does around the house. Wilt, I guess, would know better than anyone if the kid wanting to adopt him is sincere, and really NEEDS him, as opposed to just wanting him because he was created by a big-time celebrity. They may go with a different thing altogether, like having him volunteer to coach basketball for at-risk kids(who will probably think they're at boot camp, if his coaching is anything like that performance in the end credits, lol). That way, he can still find his niche helping kids that really do need someone like him, and be able to stay at Foster's at the same time.

pitbulllady

CG 11-26-2006 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 18528)
Wilt, I guess, would know better than anyone if the kid wanting to adopt him is sincere, and really NEEDS him, as opposed to just wanting him because he was created by a big-time celebrity. They may go with a different thing altogether, like having him volunteer to coach basketball for at-risk kids(who will probably think they're at boot camp, if his coaching is anything like that performance in the end credits, lol). That way, he can still find his niche helping kids that really do need someone like him, and be able to stay at Foster's at the same time.

That's a nice thought, but Wilt seems pretty intent on the idea of getting just one child to look after and that's it. Don't get me wrong, he might like coaching some kids but I think his heart is really set on being adopted and going home with a kid. He said so himself, it's what he wants. He even turned down going back with Jordan, who he obviously missed a lot.

billytheskink 11-26-2006 07:16 PM

I was out of town for thanksgiving and was not able to see Good Wilt Hunting until just a few hours ago (of course I taped it).

I gave it a "B". Now, that's not to say I didn't really enjoy it, I thouroughly enjoyed it. Foster's is a show that sets a high bar in entertainment value. I rate only a few episodes as "A"s (four off the top of my head). Good Wilt Hunting is easily one of the top ten episodes I've seen. So that "B" is a very high one.
Eh, now that I think about it, maybe I ought to give it an "A", because I love basketball. Can't change my vote in the poll, but consider me an honorary "A" giver if you will. Please?

That said, I'll give my thoughts...

- I appreciated all of the references, whether they were simple, stupid, or not-too-obvious. Hitchhiker's Guide, Khaki Jones, Larry...
- The story was nice and not too predictable. Wilt's backstory was pretty interesting.
- Basketball, there was lots of it and I loved that. I wish there was more, but I'll take what I can get. Bonus! the ABA ball makes an appearance...
- Wilt's creator dissapointed me a little, simply because of his name. Surely the writers could have done better than "Jordan Michaels". Yes, I know kids will get the reference more easily than "Gilmore Artis" or something, but still. Perhaps Wilt's namesake's greatest rival would have been a better inspiration for his creator's name, something like "Russell Williams".
- Best moment for me may have been when Wilt opened his bundle to reveal a red, white, and blue ABA basketball.
- Lots of Frankie, which was nice. I liked the running gags with the parking tickets, the noise, and the urgency. All classic Frankie moments.

So, one complaint?

Great episode, glad my VCR worked.

basilsunshine 11-27-2006 03:50 PM

This is pretty much all a spoiler, haha.


I really loved this movie. I didn't get to see it until Sunday morning, so I was nearly going crazy by then. And Saturday morning, I went with my grandparents (and other people) to go out for breakfast, and this movie was playing at the cafe's tv! I was just dying in my seat, knowing that the movie was only ten feet from me and I still couldn't watch it, haha. But anyway, I was pretty satisfied. We finally know what happened to Wilt's arm and eye, and we know of his creator's whereabouts!

So I'll just jump right in to what I liked and what I didn't like. I really did like Eduardo's creator, and I'm glad she had a flashback to when she created him. I just thought they were both so cute! And Nina Barbarosa is just the coolest name ever. She and Eduardo:-/ were a really great pair! Oh, and I just loved the pink family, the mom, dad, and daughter. They really cracked me up, how they were just crying about everything. Like Frankie answers the door, and the lady is crying because she just "loves getting visitors!" That was the best. And the little girl and her pink bear's reunion was just so adorable. And each time Wilt missed his bus I would be writhing around in my seat... I was just saying "Darn you! Think about yourself for once!" lol. That old man with the farm was pretty funny though. I felt sorry for Wilt having to process all that hay! :D Well at least he got that groovy lawn mower! 8D

I was really disappointed at the length of the movie. Didin't KND get an hour and a half? FHFIF really need some more time. The plot was great, and an hour long was definately not enough to squeeze it all in. It just seemed really rushed near the end. When Bllo and Mac have thier epiphany in knowing where Wilt is, all I heard was "Blahblahblah JAPAN!" I was like "What?" And near the end where Wilt's creator is there, Bloo and Mac explain it so fast I couldn't really understand them. It was easier to understand in my second viewing. Now don't get me wrong man, I really loved this movie, but I feel that Foster's needed more time for the movie than just an hour. It jumped around alot and skipped as well. But other than this, the movie was really enjoyable. I was just a little mad at Wilt for leaving his boy like that, without even knowing if he was unwanted or not. Darn you! :( Dawwwww but I love him. :D

And Coco's nerdy profeser people were funny. The large one reminded me of the comic book guy on The Simpson's. And the skinny one was exactly like Mandark from Dexter's Laboratory. Thier vision of Franky cracks me up. Oh, and Jackie Khones is wonderful by the way. Even though he got like one line. :jk:


So ANYWAY, Good Wilt Hunting really was worth the wait and excitement. We love you wilt! :D

pitbulllady 11-27-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by basilsunshine (Post 18777)
This is pretty much all a spoiler, haha.


I really loved this movie. I didn't get to see it until Sunday morning, so I was nearly going crazy by then. And Saturday morning, I went with my grandparents (and other people) to go out for breakfast, and this movie was playing at the cafe's tv! I was just dying in my seat, knowing that the movie was only ten feet from me and I still couldn't watch it, haha. But anyway, I was pretty satisfied. We finally know what happened to Wilt's arm and eye, and we know of his creator's whereabouts!

So I'll just jump right in to what I liked and what I didn't like. I really did like Eduardo's creator, and I'm glad she had a flashback to when she created him. I just thought they were both so cute! And Nina Barbarosa is just the coolest name ever. She and Eduardo:-/ were a really great pair! Oh, and I just loved the pink family, the mom, dad, and daughter. They really cracked me up, how they were just crying about everything. Like Frankie answers the door, and the lady is crying because she just "loves getting visitors!" That was the best. And the little girl and her pink bear's reunion was just so adorable. And each time Wilt missed his bus I would be writhing around in my seat... I was just saying "Darn you! Think about yourself for once!" lol. That old man with the farm was pretty funny though. I felt sorry for Wilt having to process all that hay! :D Well at least he got that groovy lawn mower! 8D

I was really disappointed at the length of the movie. Didin't KND get an hour and a half? FHFIF really need some more time. The plot was great, and an hour long was definately not enough to squeeze it all in. It just seemed really rushed near the end. When Bllo and Mac have thier epiphany in knowing where Wilt is, all I heard was "Blahblahblah JAPAN!" I was like "What?" And near the end where Wilt's creator is there, Bloo and Mac explain it so fast I couldn't really understand them. It was easier to understand in my second viewing. Now don't get me wrong man, I really loved this movie, but I feel that Foster's needed more time for the movie than just an hour. It jumped around alot and skipped as well. But other than this, the movie was really enjoyable. I was just a little mad at Wilt for leaving his boy like that, without even knowing if he was unwanted or not. Darn you! :( Dawwwww but I love him. :D

And Coco's nerdy profeser people were funny. The large one reminded me of the comic book guy on The Simpson's. And the skinny one was exactly like Mandark from Dexter's Laboratory. Thier vision of Franky cracks me up. Oh, and Jackie Khones is wonderful by the way. Even though he got like one line. :jk:


So ANYWAY, Good Wilt Hunting really was worth the wait and excitement. We love you wilt! :D

I really wish it were longer, too-the more Wilt, the happier I am. Still, you can't be mad at Wilt for leaving Jordan. It's not like he did it to hurt the kid; in fact, HE was seriously injured, physically and emotionally. He knew how much winning that game meant to Jordan, or at least, he THOUGHT he did. It was a far greater hurt for him to believe that he'd let Jordan down, and he was too ashamed to face him after that. He naturally assumed that Jordan would hate him and want nothing to do with him, and that's why he left. Jordan, meanwhile, unknown to Wilt, blamed HIMSELF for Wilt getting hurt and running away, not knowing the real reason why Wilt left. Most likely, he assumed that Wilt simply went off somewhere and died, like an old or badly injured animal. As it turned out, having Wilt as a friend and mentor meant more to Jordan than beating "Foul Larry" and his creator.

pitbulllady

basilsunshine 11-27-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 18793)
I really wish it were longer, too-the more Wilt, the happier I am. Still, you can't be mad at Wilt for leaving Jordan. It's not like he did it to hurt the kid; in fact, HE was seriously injured, physically and emotionally. He knew how much winning that game meant to Jordan, or at least, he THOUGHT he did. It was a far greater hurt for him to believe that he'd let Jordan down, and he was too ashamed to face him after that. He naturally assumed that Jordan would hate him and want nothing to do with him, and that's why he left. Jordan, meanwhile, unknown to Wilt, blamed HIMSELF for Wilt getting hurt and running away, not knowing the real reason why Wilt left. Most likely, he assumed that Wilt simply went off somewhere and died, like an old or badly injured animal. As it turned out, having Wilt as a friend and mentor meant more to Jordan than beating "Foul Larry" and his creator.

pitbulllady

Well it makes much more sense when you say it, :bloogrin . I guess I just have to look into things like this a litte more...if that makes any sense.

Thornwhistle 11-27-2006 05:23 PM

basil,the reason you were reminded of Mandark is because it was the same voice actor.

basilsunshine 11-27-2006 05:36 PM

Haha, so that's why! I'm so glad he's still in the voiuce acting biz then. I love that guy. Mandark is grreat.:D

Thornwhistle 11-27-2006 05:57 PM

Wait a minute,I didn't see Dutchess's creator at the reunion,I wonder what happened to him/her.

Cassini90125 11-27-2006 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Thornwhistle (Post 18815)
Wait a minute,I didn't see Dutchess's creator at the reunion,I wonder what happened to him/her.

That's one creator I really wanted to meet. He/she's got some explainin' to do... ;)

antgirl1 11-27-2006 06:21 PM

I think it'd be best not to....XD

kageri 11-27-2006 06:44 PM

Yeah, what was with the Japan thing? Nothing ever came of it. Weird.

CG 11-27-2006 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kageri (Post 18833)
Yeah, what was with the Japan thing? Nothing ever came of it. Weird.

Yeah it did. Mac worked out Jordan was Wilt's creator; and thanks to Douglas 'n Adams internet access they worked out just where he was; in Japan making a commercial. So that's why the gang flew SUPER SUPER fast to Japan to find Jordan and to their knowledge, Wilt. But that's when they discovered Wilt wasn't there, but they happened to run into Jordan and they explained what was going on with Wilt THEN they flew allll the way back to America in the Private Lear Jet to find Wilt.

I suddenly felt like I was channelling Bloo. :wiltshock:

kageri 11-27-2006 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CG (Post 18836)
Yeah it did. Mac worked out Jordan was Wilt's creator; and thanks to Douglas 'n Adams internet access they worked out just where he was; in Japan making a commercial. So that's why the gang flew SUPER SUPER fast to Japan to find Jordan and to their knowledge, Wilt. But that's when they discovered Wilt wasn't there, but they happened to run into Jordan and they explained what was going on with Wilt THEN they flew allll the way back to America in the Private Lear Jet to find Wilt.

I suddenly felt like I was channelling Bloo. :wiltshock:

Did they really? I didn't get that part. Shame on me.

....heck, if it were realistic they would have spent the equivalent of a weekend on airplanes alone.

CG 11-27-2006 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kageri (Post 18845)
Did they really? I didn't get that part. Shame on me.

....heck, if it were realistic they would have spent the equivalent of a weekend on airplanes alone.

Yeah that's what Bloo was going on about to Jordan.

And that my friends is the power of cartoons! 8D

pitbulllady 11-29-2006 04:47 AM

I just thought of something...when the folks at Foster's are searching Wilt's room for clues of why he left and trying to assess whether or not he actually DID leave, as Bloo said, Mac points out that Wilt's locker is empty, and Bloo notices that Wilt's toothbrush is gone. However, when Wilt arrives at his destination, all he has with him in that little hobo bundle is that basketball. What happened to his stuff that he removed from his room, his personal belongings, if he didn't take them with him? I have to wonder if that was just a contiuation error on the part of the writers and animators, or if it was meant for viewers to get the impression that *I* got, which was that Wilt KNEW he was probably not going to be coming home to Foster's; he KNEW that, win or lose the game, he was going to die. Larry was either going to kill him during one of those slams by trapping him against the wall, or kill him afterwards if Wilt happened to beat HIM at the game. Did he discard his personal effects, perhaps his way of telling the others that he would not be coming back, as if he were "erasing" all traces of him having been there at all?

pitbulllady

antgirl1 11-29-2006 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 19190)
I just thought of something...when the folks at Foster's are searching Wilt's room for clues of why he left and trying to assess whether or not he actually DID leave, as Bloo said, Mac points out that Wilt's locker is empty, and Bloo notices that Wilt's toothbrush is gone. However, when Wilt arrives at his destination, all he has with him in that little hobo bundle is that basketball. What happened to his stuff that he removed from his room, his personal belongings, if he didn't take them with him? I have to wonder if that was just a contiuation error on the part of the writers and animators, or if it was meant for viewers to get the impression that *I* got, which was that Wilt KNEW he was probably not going to be coming home to Foster's; he KNEW that, win or lose the game, he was going to die. Larry was either going to kill him during one of those slams by trapping him against the wall, or kill him afterwards if Wilt happened to beat HIM at the game. Did he discard his personal effects, perhaps his way of telling the others that he would not be coming back, as if he were "erasing" all traces of him having been there at all?

pitbulllady

Yes, I noticed that too! But another thing...How could've Mac opened it in the first place, when in "Squeeze the Day" he couldn't when even he and Bloo were stacked up together?

Wilt could've DIED right then if it wasn't for Jordan saving him. Yay Jordan! :D

pitbulllady 11-29-2006 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 19193)
Yes, I noticed that too! But another thing...How could've Mac opened it in the first place, when in "Squeeze the Day" he couldn't when even he and Bloo were stacked up together?

Wilt could've DIED right then if it wasn't for Jordan saving him. Yay Jordan! :D

Wilt must have left the locker door ajar when he cleaned out the locker, so it would have been easy to open, even if they could not reach the handle. If he knew he wouldn't be coming back, and he left in a hurry, he would not have bothered closing it.

pitbulllady

taranchula 11-29-2006 07:40 AM

If I had to venture a guess, he could have pawned all his stuff (Yes even his toothbrush, it might have been a brand new brush fresh out the package) in order to pay for bus and train fare and other travel expenses.

One Radical Dude 11-29-2006 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by taranchula (Post 19216)
If I had to venture a guess, he could have pawned all his stuff (Yes even his toothbrush, it might have been a brand new brush fresh out the package) in order to pay for bus and train fare and other travel expenses.

Yeah, that's a very good possibility. Ya never know.


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