I think Frankie feels more free and accepted at Foster's because she knows she doesn't have to impress or follow any standards by anyone. When Frankie dated, I think she had an insecure feeling she wasn't pretty (which is NUTS :bloocross:) and dressed like she did during her dates with Dylan.

She never felt worried about how she dressed when she went out in public to the mall, to the swap market, or how Mac and everyone else saw her. I think this is also why she loves what she does and where she is because despite the fact she's not very appreciated, she knows she is valued.

Foster's would fall apart in minutes without her, neither Madame Foster nor Mr. Herriman could run a stable anything by themselves and Frankie's love for caring for others is what makes her character truly special. I think Frankie should be more confident in accepting where she works and what she does for a living.

She's definitely brave enough to stand up for herself and her friends, I agree with her shyness in school theory and I think that may contribute to why she acts the way she does now around others.

I never even went to my prom. I just couldn't be bothered. But agree that Frankie probably saw it as a defining moment for her relations outside of imaginary friends and an opportunity to enjoy the company of "normal" people.
I really would like to learn more about Kathy and see how she and Frankie met. Maybe she befriended her in school or maybe she went to Fosters as a little girl to get an imaginary friend of her own but met Frankie instead. Some history on Kathy would certainly shed some light on Frankie's past.

Could be. I've occasionally thought a "Girl's night out" episode with Frankie, Kathy, and a few of her other friends might give us some insight into Frankie's past, as well as being major fun for her fans. I've always assumed that she has at least a few friends outside of the House; I'd like to meet them, learn about what kind of people they are and how they all met. :frankiesmile:

Well, her current outfit may not be a leopard spotted tube top or anything, but it is midriff baring.... but I agree that she was probably not concerned with being popular at school and was probably well-liked by others who weren't either. I doubt she associated with the ~*~cool~*~ crowd but she's so charismatic it would be impossible for her not to have had some friends.

I do not think Frankie belonged to any one group - but she probably got along with all of them; I think she did not delve into her life with anyone, but was outwardly genuine with whoever she would associate with.:frankiesmile:

I'm pretty sure more than a couple. But not a lot, because of her dedication to foster's & the friends.

Not sure if anyone really realizes this but I was watching "Setting a president" recently and I noticed something kind of surprising about Frankie after she became president and something crucial about Mr. Herriman. Herriman has always been president and he actually never did ANYTHING.

Other then yelling at people to follow the rules and making the rules, Herriman didn't do anything since he was president and thus wasn't required to do so. When Frankie became president she did BOTH jobs. She still took care of the friends, tucked them in, gave them chores, and fed them and etc.

It was not her job to be care taker anymore, she could have easily assigned it to someone else or given it to Mr. Herriman like she suggested at the grocery store. However she did both jobs, and took care of everyone just like she did before while still remaining president of the house hold.

It's a true credit to such a fine young lady to going the extra mile and STILL helping out by doing her old job as well as running the house as president. Actually, this makes a lot of sense concerning the whole "payment" issue Frankie found out at the end of the episode. It makes a lot of sense really.

Frankie gets paid more because she DOES more, she received less as president because Mr. Herriman did jack squat as president so I finally get why she got less money as president then in her old job. You guys probably figured that out WAY before I did and if so then feel free to ignore me.

Either way, I thought it was something interesting to point out.

Very true, too, I hadn't thought much about it. I would guess part of the reason is force of habit; it's what she'd been doing for a long time, it's part of her routine. Another part is her caretaker mentality; she takes care of the residents because that's who she is and what she does. It just comes naturally to her; it's instinctive, maybe even compulsive on some level. Another, simpler explanation might be that she just didn't have time to hire a new caretaker. I'm sure it was on her list of things to do but she didn't get to it before she got her paycheck and used the low pay as an excuse to give Mr. Herriman his old job back.

I may have mentioned this before, but I agree with Cass; for some reason I get the feeling that if Frankie wasn't caretaker anymore, while she'd enjoy her freedom at first, she'd get bored of it eventually and want to do her job again, frustrating as it can be. She doesn't have to go through that, she obviously does it because she believes very strongly in her job. So yeah, I think yelling at people and giving orders like a Vogon isn't Frankie's thing anyway. Her caretaker mentality is probably ingrained in her by now.

I think she's pretty much stuck in the position of caretaker for now, because to quote someone else on this forum (don't remember who, sorry) Madame Foster and Mr Herriman couldn't run a stable anything. Frankie just cares too much about Fosters (not to mention her grandma and Mr Herriman) to just let it go. I guess she could find someone reliable to take care of Fosters for her, but since none of us forum members exist in the Fostersverse, that'd be hard going.

Heh, now there's an interesting thought. Me personally though, I don't think I'd be able to lift a washcloth up without Frankie around.

If I'm in the Fosterverse, caretaker or not, Frankie is definitely getting a visit from me 8D.

Stars, I can see us showing up as a group and leaving her a bit freaked out while Bloo says, "How sweet, fresh meat", or something like that, and Eduardo shrieks "AAAAAAHHHHH! FANBOYS!!!" and plows through a wall. 8D :-[

I think as long as we don't go at it like Adam and Douglas did and have real life space out fantasies when she walks by or something, she'll be fine. I admit though I think she'll be pretty weirded out seeing a legion of people dedicated to her.

Though in the long run I think she'll find it most flattering and would accept people as individuals and not write them off as nut jobs....so long as no one like goes nuts if she touches someone and he/she goes "She touched me" or something like that.

Or...if they say she's not punk rock 8D sorry Frankie I couldn't resist.

I don't think Frankie knows what REAL punk rock is - she is not a poser, but just does not have a grasp on some of the real groups of the past.

Honestly, I'm not too clear on what the term means. I like what I like, from Brahms to the Beatles, and seldom worry about what genre the audiophiles classify it as.

I don't know what it is either, but I sort of doubt orange-and-blue sneakers or anything Powerpuff Girls related qualify.

Punk supposedly started in England, and New York. It was an attitude. It depended on what you listened to. Most punk rock come out of all the younger generation getting tired of Led Zeppelin, Yes, The Who, Doobie Brothers, etc., and they wanted to make their mark with their attitude, dress, and music (underground). The three most famous bands were Sex Pistols, The Damned, and The Clash. Many others would follow by the end of the '70's and into the mid- 80's (The Cramps, Dead Kennedys, Souxie and the Banshees, Corrosion of Conformity, etc.). Before I came back to my musical roots, I was in a punk band called the Strychnines.:frankiesmile:

Interesting. I've heard that the Rolling Stones are often considered by some to be the original punk band. Now they're a corporation, but that's another story. Regardless, I don't think Frankie gets to listen to a lot of music unless she has a walkman or iPod or some such thing. Keeping on top of all the cleaning in the house undoubtably requires mobility, running from one spill to the next; even a small portable stereo wouldn't really be practical. I'd assume she does most of her listening during her down time, limited though that may be.

I'm sure that Mr. Harriman does his share. I bet it's just the boring stuff that would likely go over the heads of younger viewers. He was very hands on when it came to securing those "financial gifts".
He also seems to do a lot of the paper work regarding the coming and going of imaginary friends. And he obviously does some work since he was getting frustrated at the scribbles for ignoring his system. And let's not forget about how he makes sure that there is always enough money to get every resident of Fosters one gift for Christmas.
I'm not trying to say that he's more important than Frankie or viceversa but that he does do stuff to help keep the house going.
Sorry about that. We can get back to our favorite redhead now.;)

punk rock is bullcrap. not that it isn't good, but really any band at anytime can sound as generic as the Ramones, as horrible as the Sex Pistols, or as schizophrenic (in a political/musical way) as the Clash. I figure the most punk Frankie would listen to are bands on or formerly on Epitaph Records, like Rancid and Bad Religion. Otherwise she would listen to pop-punk bands.
I would like to see an actual list, sanctioned by Craig McCraken himself, of the bands Frankie likes. You know, to show us how harcore she is. Maybe she likes Crass or the Subhumans, but I would doubt it.

I don't know if they would actually make a list like that. They may leave it to the fans imagination. But I can't see them doing that for another matter: Getting the rights to use the names of real life bands on the show. They would probably just use cleaver word play, though. Like "Shmee-bay".;)

well, I don't mean as a plot point for the show, just say Mr. McCracken and I were having tea. Then I would begin discussing what kind of punk bands Frankie likes with him (among other things). Just because I'm curious. you know what I mean?

Yeah I get what your saying now. I would certainly be cool to have an opportunity like that. And learning more about Frankie would make it even cooler.:D

Every time i think of frankie the name fontane comes to my head, then i think of bioshock.

Okay, this thread has been too quiet for too long.

Given that Thanksgiving was yesterday (in my time zone, at least), I can't help but wonder what goes on in Foster's kitchen, not just on major feast days but every other day, too. I assume Frankie is more than competent at cooking and other aspects of kitchen work; she'd have to be, or someone else would be doing the job. I'm wondering what sorts of dishes she favors when preparing meals for the house; I don't recall the show touching on that too much. True, we saw a full meal in Dinner Is Swerved, but I would think that much of the time she would make relatively easy, one-dish meals, things like pasta, stew, etc. Feeding over a thousand IF's three times a day doesn't really lend itself to fancy meals; she wouldn't have the time to do it. But even a simple dish of spaghetti can have endless possibilities; I've seen, made and used many different sauces on spaghetti and other pasta shapes. What do you guys think? I'm guessing Frankie serves relatively easy meals most of the time, with fancier or more complex meals on holidays and special occasions, and probably plans most such meals as far ahead of time as she can. How about you?

I've been trying to come up with a response all day. The best I could come up with was:

She most likely makes her meals as healthy as possible using fresh, whole wheat, and organic ingredients, but occasionally lets them slide by with a little something like Ice Cream if she feels the friends deserve a break from nutritional foods.

I think Frankie usually does cook "simple meals" like spaghetti or steaks or something. Something that doesn't require a lot of specific recipe changes or anything. Cause like Cass said, she has to cook for thousands of mouths and that includes different tastes, needs, and such and such.

I think by creating simple meals she makes it so everyone can appreciate it. Either that, or I think the IF's enjoy whatever food they can get. I mean realistically, cooking for so many people and cleaning as well, Frankie can't expected to cater every IF specific need even when she was president.

The sheer amount of responsibilities is mind boggling, such an ass load is enough to make most people mentally break down. Since were on her cooking, I wonder if Frankie had anyone teach her or did she just self taught from books or cooking shows. Another thing I wonder, what did Frankie lose belief in Santa over?

Was it just a natural sense of disbelief due to growing up, or did something happen in her life that made her think otherwise. She's clearly not against the idea of imaginary characters existing because at the end of the Christmas special, she couldn't deny the fact that Mac was right about Santa.

What do you guys think?

I don't think Frankie actually does any meals outside of supper/dinner. We've seen in episodes that she may just leave a variety of breakfast foods and items like cereal and juice on the table so the friends can help themselves. And lunch seems to be another case of friends providing for themselves. I think we've only seen Frankie make lunches on request.
And I think Cass is right on the money about Frankie likely making premade dinners and meals for most days. We have seen her do this in Foster's goes to Europe. I can't see anyone expecting her to actually cook big meals for the friends everyday. Maybe once or twice a week but not everyday.
I'm sure she must have a love of cooking. Madame Foster clearly likes to pass on old family recipes to her as we've seen in Crime After Crime. And I'm more than certain that she gets a kick out of seeing the friends look so happy and content with full bellies.
As for her belief/disbelief in Santa, I'm sure that her belief in him was always there, just repressed. It could have simply been a matter of hearing other kids at school say he's not real when she was younger. Another possibility could be that all the commercialism hindered her belief in the big red guy. Seeing dozens of imaginary Santa's filling out the house every year could certainly have given her doubts.
We still don't know much of her past so that could be a possibility too. By all we know her parents may have passed away, one way or another, and caused her to grow up a little too fast. It may even just be a matter of her trying to fit in with other people and trying to seem "normal" to others.

Do you folks realize if Grandma Foster passes away - Frankie gets some prime real estate? I do not think it would go to Herriman, because he is not real family blood. Now a victorian style house in the pacific northwest ususally runs in the $1 million to many million mark. I bust my butt to keep two homes that I own, up. Frankie just inherits a prime house! Think about it!:frankiesmile:

wow...and i wonder if she'd get a tax break for being a non-profit charitable organization?

It's a good question. While I'm pretty sure Foster's is a charitable organization, the government doesn't give tax-exempt status to all charitable organizations. I have no idea whether Foster's meets their criteria or not.

I wonder if fosters ever hired new employees or atleast tried too, looks like frankie needs some help. I know i would sign up lolz.

I am surprised the local temp agency does not offer teenagers to work at Foster's for the holidays, or summer. I am sure Grandma, and Frankie are great to work for - Herriman would be a stickler though (as usual):mfoster:

Hiring a temp worker could make for an interesting episode. I'll bet anything that they'd name the ep "Temporary Insanity". 8D

That would be perfect for an episode name! Just don't hire Goofturd and his friends, otherwise Frankie might definitely take a trip to the "flight deck." (The loony bin):wiltshock:

Funny you should mention that, I too was tinkering around with an idea along those lines.

Only in my version, it's a stock spoiled rich brat whom is forced to work at Foster's for community service, and of course their lack of work ethic puts them right on the top of everyone favorite red head's "you know what" list.

You know that'd actually be a great idea, although my guess is the episode would end up having Frankie liking the temp's work so much (or enjoying her vacation too much) that she'd want to take a long ass break from Foster's.

We all know how much she loves the place, but I can remember PLENTY of cartoon shows where characters take a break and find out its much more enjoyable then they realized. Though no temp could truly take Frankie's place.

And I don't think Frankie would WANT someone else doing her job, what do you guys think?

Probably, and Mr. Harriman fired them all for not doing a good enough job.

That's pretty much how it'd go for me. So many temps come in, Frankie decides to take a vacation, but the friends start to miss her badly, even though they feel she deserves a vacation. At some point, Frankie starts feeling lonely and realizes that she had so many friends at Foster's that she couldn't possibly stay on vacation any longer. So she comes back to discover the temps had pretty much been doing a terrible job, and she has them thrown out of the house and takes her job back. They could end it with the friends thanking her for her hard work.

One idea I like is bringing in a temp not because Frankie needs a vacation (although she certainly deserves one) but because there's extra work that month. Who knows why; maybe there's storm damage to the house (or Bloo damage) that needs to be cleaned up, an extra hundred IF's to look after when Goo has a brain spasm, whatever the reason, the next month will be a rough one. Frankie demands that Mr. Herriman hire her an assistant "Or else", waives the broom in a threatening manor, and he gives in. They end up with someone doing community service but it's not an arrogant rich brat, no; it's Terrence, who was busted for selling bootleg Coco cards. Lots of comic possibilities there as the IF's know him and conspire to make his stay at Foster's a difficult one. Frankie supervises his work and makes sure that Terrence learns about how the IF's are happy but lonely, all wanting to be adopted, some still hurting over being abandoned by their creators, and eventually he breaks down and speaks to Frankie of his own lonliness and how he feels abandon by his father. Frankie's sympathetic side comes out and we learn about her own issues in that area. They don't exactly become friends but they do understand each other a little better, and Terrence, having found a little understanding, works harder and gets the job done. Frankie arranges for Terrence to see Red and the family who adopted him and they work out their differences. The episode ends with Terrence thanking Frankie for listening and putting up with him; she smiles, pats him on the shoulder, and says, "It's what I do." Lots of comedy early in the episode, moving to something a little more poignant later on, with much of the focus on Frankie. That's Foster's at it's best. :frankiesmile: