Yeah I totally agree with that. The whole "OMG will Mac's Mom find about Foster's?" thing would get so tiresome if it were in every episode.

Agreed. It sounds like a plausible plot for a special (a la Good Wilt Hunting), because of the increased allowance of more "serious" emotions. But it would require too much continuity to resolve through normal episodes. Who knows. Maybe they'll use that for their last episode.

Last episode?

But won't the show last forever, until our kids have kids?

Ha, just kidding.

I agree completely, though.

-Marty :goo:

It would be good as a special. I have to agree that Mac's Mom has got to ahev some idea that he goes to fosters.

Terrance knows, and, even though he's not the most trustworthy person, if he mentioned Mac's trips to Foster's enough then their mother would be awful suspicious at the very least.

It may simply be that she doesn't care too much...

I do agree Terrence is not the most trustworthy person,
but Mac might say something as:"Mom, i'm going to play with a friend after school.I'll be back at five"
So if Terrence does say something about his trips, his mom will think Mac's "friend" has a surname: Foster...
which is quite right.

The reason i think she told Mac to get rid of Bloo is different.
I think Mac's mom once had an imaginary friend, but around the age of 8, she wasgetting teased with it. So she did not want her son to get in the same trouble with Bloo so she kindly said he should get rid of Bloo

The problem with that is her use of the word "rid", like Bloo is some kind of used toy and not a creature with real feelings. Plus she had to KNOW full well those two were close friends and that she hurt Mac by taking him away. I just don't care for the attitude most people have towards Imaginaries, or clearly Fosters wouldn't need to exist.

I agree with that. For example, I don't think parents giving their babies or young kids they can't afford to take care of up for adoption would call it "getting rid of them". Maybe you'd say that about, say, a dog, but dogs can't understand you, and you wouldn't say it in front of a kid who was really attached to it. I don't hate her or anything, and without her the whole premise would not be, but jeez... if she had to rip Mac's only friend away from him, she could've said it a little nicer.

How nicely can you tear best friends apart?

Touche, but how about wording it like.... "give him another home" or something. I dunno. At least don't make it sound like he's going to be thrown out into the street.

I can't agree with you there, T-Rex -- I just can't. The way Mom talked into Mac by getting rid of Bloo, she made it seem as if Bloo is some sort of toy or useless object, instead of someone that's as real as a human being. Anyone with a brain should never force someone to give up someone that's very close to him/her...never! The two are best friends, though I also seem them as "family".

What he said. :)

It's against the law to abandon a cat or a dog. And yet IF's can be abandoned without a second thought.

Yep, that's why it's so disturbing to me.
I even re-watched the pilot again just to carefully pay attention to that scene. Mac's mom, despite all her talk about "getting rid of Bloo" still says sorry for knocking him over when she opens the door. What is WITH that lady? How can you SPEAK to a LIVING CREATURE and apologize for hitting it, but at the same time, decide to toss it out the door (so to speak) on a second's notice when you think that's the way to solve the problem between your sons? And furthermore, did anyone notice how she agreed with Mac calling Terrence a "jerk"? If I were a mom, I would not condone or allow my children to be calling each other names (especially from an eight year old), no matter HOW terribly they got along.
She really confuses me....I think this woman needs to go back to mothering school or something. I can give her some credit, considering she's a single mom, but still...I just don't like that lady.

I dunno, i've called my irritating older brother things MUCH less complimentary that 'jerk' and had my parents agree with me, because i'm right.

I can almost imagine Frankie arguing with Mac's mother, most likely about Mac and Bloo. I have a picture in my head of the scene with Frankie angrely yelling and pointing her finger at Mac's mom.

You read my mind. I can imagine that happening, also.

Oh I'd LOVE to see that happen. Frankie chewing Mac's mom out? Whoo yeah. :scaryberry:

Frankie might sympathize with Mac's mom about being overworked--but she'd also point out how she remains loyal to the imaginary friends despite all she goes through as caretaker.

Yeah, a confrontation would be quite interesting.

yeah, could be a hidden scene of "Blooooooooo!"

As bad as Mac's mom is, believe me, she could be worse. She could be a psychotic control freak like Lois from Malcolm in the Middle. :macwor:

Well, according to BFAHP, Mom at least knows about Madame Foster:

http://www.fosters-home.com/forum/my...formfoster.jpg

:jk: I know, its just the game and not necessarily canon - but still, either its a bad mistake or a clue...I dunno.

I seriously don't see Mac's mom in this light.....AT ALL. I don't think she was heartless when she told Mac to get rid of Bloo, I think she felt she was doing it for him to grow up and not rely on Bloo so much. Not as some kind of punishment.

But truth be told, I think she really just didn't understand how important imaginary friends are to people or Mac. I don't think she hates them and judging by how she seems to treat mac during the Christmas and Slumber party episodes, she really cares for him.

She concerns about him and isn't the mean, monster of a mother people seem to be making her out to be just because she decided to get Bloo out of the house. Honestly, I think she is now fully aware of how important they are to Mac's life.

I still believe it was heartless to force Mac to give up someone he cares about greatly, even if Mom meant well. Maybe, my tune will change one day, but not right now. :P

MY reason for disliking the woman to some extent is not so much how she treats Mac, but her view of Imaginary Friends. I mean, these are living, feeling, sentient beings, yet to her they are no more than a piece of garbage to be disposed of when you get tired of them. She had no more compassion for what might have happened to Bloo if he'd been thrown out of the house than if he were a plastic fork from the previous night's dinner! She gives no evidence that she ever thinks about him now, that she thinks Mac has "gotten rid of him". She apparently doesn't worry about the well-being of her OWN Imaginary Friend, either. It's like I've often stated, you can go to jail for tossing a dog or cat out on its own to survive(or not), and most people would consider doing so a horrible thing worthy of punishment, yet that same compassion isn't extended to other living things that are just as intelligent, articulate and emotional as WE are! It is also a cruelty to the child who still obviously loves the Imaginary Friend in question, whether it's done out of "punishment" is irrelevent. Regardless of the motive of the parent for wanting the Imaginary Friend gone, it still winds up punishing the child by putting him/her under tremendous emotional stress. Mac might LOVE his mom deeply, but his TRUST in her has been shaken, otherwise he would not feel the need to sneak around to visit Bloo.

pitbulllady

::applauds:: You are correct sir....I mean mam. ;)

Oh and might I add, Wilt is a prime example of what can happen when you force an Imaginary out the door (if that was the case), they get into serious trouble sometimes. Poor Wilt. :(

My feelings as well! :(

My only wonder is exactly how familar with the concept of imaginary friends is Mac's mom? We know she knows about Bloo, but they never really state if she ever knew him personally or ever talked to him or did anything like that. I don't think she realized how human like he was.

Because we don't get any idea of what happens in Mac's life prior to "House of Bloo's", we can't really tell how Mac's mom interacted with Bloo or actually saw him. I honestly think she was just doing something in the stupid lines of "Best for her son".

However, we also have no idea how she would feel about imaginary friends now. People change and I can't recall anything recent saying Mac's mom still hating imaginary friends. Mac still freaks out over the fear his mom may find out, but I wonder if she would react differently now.

We've gone through quite a few episodes since "House of Bloo's" and even characters like Mr. Herriman, Wilt, Eduardo, and Mac have broken out of their character "roles" and shown new sides of themselves. I don't think its totally impossible for Mac's mom to possibly have a different view on IFs now.

That would be neat, actually. Maybe I could learn to like her then, if she proved to have a different view of things after all. :) Like in GWH, if she DOES show up to see HER Imaginary, that would be pretty cool...and who knows in that moment she could realize how much she missed her Imaginary, and understand Mac better in the process.....and do something like say it was okay for him to visit Bloo on a daily basis, even if he couldn't live with them anymore.

Now that would just make her likable, wouldn't it?

My point is to not judge characters simply on earlier episodes or statements. Good exmaple. I felt Frankie's reaction to the dumping of her computer in "World wide wabbit" was a bit out of touch for her, though funny it sure as hell was.

But then someone pointed out it was an earlier episode and as we have seen, Frankie is not that "weird" with her stuff. Same with Bloo. Bloo was actually more mellow and less rude or dim then he was back then as opposed to how he is now.

Bloo changed alot and I don't think its fair to hold things against characters when it was seasons ago since we last saw any further signs of this IF bashing from Mac's Mom. Evereyone deserves a second chance, don't judge her entire existance on one episode forever.

Not everyone. I don't mean him specifically, although he certainly comes to mind immediately. I agree about Mac's mom, though; I hate what she did in "House Of Bloo's", but I've never seen her as the ogress that many others make her out to be.

I do believe people deserve a second chance, regardless of anything that person has done, it is not your job to mark them for life as something they did or said. If the person betrays again or does something bad again, then the trust is gone forever.

But I think the option for get a second try should always be available. "Batman Beyond" had the main guy Terry had this friend named Charlie, a theif who was once Terry's best friend gets out of jail and begs Terry to help him out. Terry does seeing as how they were friends.

Charlie goes right back to stealing, trust is gone forever, and we see Charlie is a crook through and through....but at least Terry had the decency to offer someone who didn't deserve it, a second chance. Its important to have. I still just am shocked that 1 episode still leaves this image of Mac's Mom to everyone.

I really never got that memo.

Nope. Some offenses are inexcusable. You do it once, you're done. I won't bother citing real-world examples; the list is far too long, and everybody knows the names anyway. And whether it is my job to judge them or not is irrelevant. It's human nature to judge others. Everyone does it. It may not be right by one standard of ethics or another, but that's how it is.

I think people judging other people are inevitable, but I don't think "that's how it is" covers everything in terms of basics of what's right to forgive and what's not and all that jazz.

I do agree with you on some things are inexcusable, though I don't believe that what Mac's mom said is one of those things. I think this might be getting off topic tho.

Probably is. But again, I agree about Mac's mom. I've said this before, but I still think that giving up one's IF, voluntarily or otherwise, is a cultural tradition of the Foster's universe. We have our own such traditions, some just as vile, in the real world. They make absolutely no sense, and are often evil by any reasonable definition of the word, but people follow them anyway. Mac's mom is not bad, in that sense, just tradition-bound.

I, too, think that some people are taking their dislike of Mac's Mom way too far. She's not heartless! :o

It'd be nice if Frankie confronted her, but I really doubt she would "angrily yell" and "chew her out" like some people her said. I think Frankie would instead have a civilized chat with her, in which she would try to get Mac's Mom to understand her and the Foster's stance on IFs... and maybe--just maybe--convince her to allow Bloo to stay at the apartment with Mac once in a while.

Yeah, I think people are seeing as the meeting between Frankie and Mac's Mom as some sort of wrestling match over morals and how to raise Mac or something. It really isn't that critical considering how good Mac's Mom seems to be to Mac.

I think the tradition thing is more plausible then this heartless mom bit. She seemed decent and caring for her son during "Infernal Slumber", I think her issue with Bloo was because she felt Mac was getting too old and needed to move on.

I don't think she harbers a personal loathing for IFs or Bloo (Unless he did something isanely BAD to piss her off to high hell and force her to boot him out, but that's another story). I think she just wanted her son to not be picked on.

She seems concerned for Mac every time I've seen her with him, just like when she sounded freaked when Mac confessed he was upset at not having any underwear for Christmas. She sounded really concerned he felt so broken.

Plus she got him everything he wanted (he even said it), the issue was the Santa thing and that's another case. The point was, she cared enough to buy him everything he wanted and cared that he seemed upset at Christmas.

Doesn't sound that harsh or vile of a mom to me.

I hate to point it out but the truth is that some of us, who think about a parent making her kid basically throw their IF out, might think differently if we were born and raised in the universe Foster's takes place in. If you know what I mean.

You couldn't have said it better, Sparky.

That's a BIG IF considering what a drastic and incredibly large difference their world is from ours.