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Okay. I can give her credit for that. But she still could have kept her own creations rather than letting other people adopt them.
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what, all four hundred of them?
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You mean 751. Not 400. But yeah, your point stands anyway. Befriending isn't an issue with her any longer, particularly since she gets along more with Coco.
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And Mac doesn't seem to HATE her (much like my best friend Brandon relating to moi), but he has a low tolerance for her craziness sometimes.
So she's got friends... ...and loyal fans such as myself. -Marty 8-) |
At the Catholic high school I went to, service to others was stressed heavily, and every year there were different service requirements. This past year, my senior year, it turned out that our specific requirement was that we had to choose a particular agency to work at for at least one day a week throughout the entire school year, and I personally chose to work in an after-school program.
I know this seems like a bit of aimless rambling on my part, but my point is basically one of the reasons I like Goo is because she reminds me so much of so many of the third-graders that I had the joy of working with, all of them so chatty, bubbly, and just loaded with more spunk than one would think possible to find in a mere eight or nine-year-old. But of course, it wasn't all fun and games, as they of course got into far more than their fair share of mischief. Now I'm gonna stop before I start becoming too nostalgic on the subject. |
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Maybe that's another reason why I don't like her very much at all. She has (had?) little self-control. And what Dude13 said about the happy, bubbly children full of spunk reminds me of Goo. And I don't like little kids very much, and since Goo seems quite immature to me, that could be another reason why I don't like her. |
Aaaaaaaaand, unfortunately, "Go Goo Go" failed to win the Emmy for Best Outstanding Program. Personally, I'm not as upset about Foster's being shafted as I am with the Simpsons winning. AGAIN.
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On the bright side, Kiefer Sutherland and 24 finally got a richly deserved and long overdue win. ;D
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In all honesty, I do sincerely like Goo, but I think........well, I think the writers are over using her. While I think she's a great character, I also think she was always meant to be a minor character to be used from time to time, instead of playing a major part in the series. So while I like her, I'm also kind of hoping they give her a break after "Make Believe it or Not" for awhile. |
In all honesty, I like Goo but simply in idea, the acutal character can be annoying sometimes and while she is an original and unique addition to the cast, they kinda make her prescence too "over powering" if you know what I mean.
The Foster's creators said they always try to use her when they can, they feel she's a popular character that has alot of potential, much like Cheese. But I think Cheese is on more simply because everything he says, thinks, or does is totally random. Goo and Mac do NOT belong together, I'm sorry but I can't see it in the faintest. Goo is too weird, wild, and FAR too crazy for someone as stable and easy going as Mac. Yes, Mac has gotten wild and wacky sometimes but for the most part, he's a tame and calm kid. The only reason that relationship was hinted at in "Go Goo Go" was so Frankie and the others could use the tie as a means of forcing Goo away, which would pressure Mac into getting rid of her and thus creating the conflict. Plus it showed us that Goo is a lonely person and more about her personality. But despite the fact Mac comforted her and made her feel better in the end, I would say there relationship will never evolve past friendship. |
Hey, opposites attract. And I don't think Goo could calm down at ALL if it wasn't for Mac (crying scene at the end of "Go Goo Go"). Maybe he'd like having her around after a while...
Once again, I'm biased. And I just think they are cute. Hey, I never said anyone HAD to have the same opinions I did. I LOVE hearing other people's opinions. -Marty 8-) |
Yeah, I too possess a bit of a natural bias, and thus I cast my vote as a "yes" for those two being a possible couple.
Marty does actually have a valid point - "opposities attract" is no mere cliche (sorry, don't know how to add the accent mark over the "e" on my MacBook.) Anyway, what I've experienced at least shows me that there's truth in that statement - my older brother has had a girlfriend since junior year in high school, their relationship lasted all throughout college (well, probably because their colleges were both in Boston) and even after graduating, they're still together. And believe me, it's not easy to spot similarities in their personality, for whereas she's a bit shy and introverted, my older brother is as loud and outgoing as humanly possible. Then again, that's from what I've dealt with personally. But yet again, I'm also severely biased on the subject, so maybe I shouldn't be taken seriously, as I can't help but view them as an adorable pair. Ack, and this is coming out of the words of a nineteen year old boy of all people.... |
Goo + Mac = Never
I agree with Marshmallow, it wouldn't work out. Goo isn't as funny as Cheese, so they should'nt have her as much. Every couple of episodes maybe. |
Once or twice per season is all I think I can stomach at this point. :P
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Yikes! It seems we're a bit polarized upon the subject, to say the very least. Methinks maybe it's because many feel that it seems like they're pushing to have her far too much on the show.
I honestly don't have a problem with it, but as can be seen, we're not all going to be seeing eye-to-eye on the subject. But to be blunt, I prefer her much more than Cheese - I think either he got a bit far too over-hyped for my tastes, but then again, it's probably more or less because I work at a day camp in the summer, where the kids do nothing but chant "I like cereal" and "I like chocolate milk" over and over, so that left me a bit bitter on t he subject. |
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Oh good. I'm not the only one who wishes she'd just...go away for a little while.
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You're not going to like "Make-Believe It Or Not", then. I'm not really looking forward to that one, either. :P
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I disgaree and consider Cheese a much better flavour of humor to swallow then Goo. Goo to me was a one trick poney, her episode and her personality worked out her problem all in one 30 minute show and it could have easily just stayed there and just left it at that.
Cheese to me is like the Imaginary friend version of "Family Guy", a stupid, weird ass character that spouts random things with nothing but insanity, strange sense of a humor and high pressured sugar foods fueling his warped little mind. Much like Peter Griffin :D. But Goo to me is becoming more annoying then apart of the "Foster's crew". She doesn't really bring anything to the table other then fast talking, and a what seems to be a common theme in all the episodes she's involved in: a very BOSSY nature. She's bullied Herriman, Frankie, Mac, Eduardo, and just about anyone else she's talked to with her wacko attitude. Even in "Big Cheese" when Frankie asks for her help to get the code, you can get a sense of arrogance from her tone. I think she could be a much more likeable and very acceptable character if they gave her more depth then just the go-go mouth syndrome 24/7. Cheese is a dumb ass, that's his gimmick and that's not an insult btw, it's literally what he is there to do, be stupid. Other then "Go Goo Go" we haven't seen any real depth to Goo's character in any of her current appearances. I think she's just becoming more 3rd wheel and less funny. The same thing might happen to Cheese if they overuse him, but odds are I'll stop laughing at Goo before I stop laughing at Cheese. |
I agree with Mr. Marshmallow.
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Interesting take on Goo vs. Cheese, Mr. M. Very interesting indeed. Not sure I agree or disagree, so I'll be pondering for a while...
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Cheese annoys the crap out of me... he just does. It doesn't mean I hate him, but he does. I'll agree that her last few perfromances hace been slightly crappy and annoying... But maybe in future episodes (maybe the upcoming one with the video game nightmares) she'll have more depth, and become a more liked character. I think Mac/Goo is awesome (if Goo gets more depth), but everyone has their own opinion, and I'm okay with that... -Marty 8-) |
Yikes, looks like we're seeing things from completely opposite ends of the spectrum here.
In my own point of view, I seem to see Cheese as a bit of a one-track character in the manner that his only major gimic is that he wanders about and spouts random phrases, much in the way that Goo can be seen as a bit one-dimensional through just talking fast. But like I said, I'm very much on the other side of these two-choices, to me there's just not that much for Cheese except "Do it again, do it again" and "I like chocolate milk." But then again, as stated before, my experience as a day camp counselor had a very strong role in shaping this particular viewpoint. Simply put, I just find Goo to be a very upbeat, extremely unique character who's personality adds a bit of diversity whenever she appears within the show. Unfortunately, it seems people or either all-or-nothing on the subject with little middle ground in between - she's either a welcome addition or flat-out disliked, and thus all of us with the opoosing viewpoints simply can't see eye-to-eye with anything on the subject. Any moderates out there on the subject? That'd make for some great input here. |
Originally, I loved Goo. Her extremely hyper attitude provided some great comedy for her debut episode; and as somebody who is a social outcast, I found the ending to be genuinely touching. Her appearance in "The Big Picture" was a nice surprise, and it seemed like a teaser for what I thought would be her next big role in "Make-Believe It Or Not".
Unfortunately, that wasn't her case. And unfortunately, each appearance since has kinda only erased the reasons I liked her in the first place. She went from a loveable outcast I could somewhat relate with to a depressingly accurate representation of the bullies that tormented me in "Neighbor Pains". And then there's how she's become a bit of a blatant deus-ex machina "solve the problem at the end" character, which is a bit of a slap in the face to the entire main cast. I'm kinda mixed about "Make-Believe It Or Not". I'm a huge videogame fanatic, and I'm looking forward to the references and parodies they're planning to make... but I'm also fearing that it'll have Goo hogging the spotlight and making the characters we've known and loved from the beginning look like fools. So I guess I'm a moderate? |
I guess you can say I am bit of a moderate myself, Because I never thought Goo was a horrible character by any stretch of the imagination, but on the other hand I never thought she was the greatest thing since sliced bread either.
The one thing I really like about the character is the manic energy that Grey Delislie brings to the role, I mean after all she is given carte blanch to stand in front of a microphone and basically go crazy, who wouldn't want an opportunity to do that? And Truthfully I never thought her multiple appearances this season to be a hindrance to any of the episodes, as she did get some funny lines and our favorite characters still got plenty of face time as well, and I must be the only person on the board who wasn't offended in the least by her behavior in Neighbor Pains, just because I have been in similar situations many times before, being forced to work with people who had the exact same mentality as Goo did. So to me it was one of those "it's funny because it's true" deals. As for character development I am sure we are going to see a lot of it in the coming seasons, there is still IMHO a lot of situations they can come up in order to see multiple sides of Goo's character. |
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Even though a cartoon character, she is at the same time only human, and can have flaws (as Frankie with her nasty cookie addiction and Mac with his sugar troubles). But then again, Goo herself is already over-the-top to begin with, so I think that's why it gets offensive to some when she goes any further. |
The sad thing is, although I could relate to her before as the "outcast type", I related to her just as much when she was bossy.
Because she's a clone of me at that age- even with the bossiness. I was REALLY bossy (it seems like I've outgrown MOST of that, although it's still there). You see, sometimes when someone is an outcast for a while, the moment someone listens to what they have to say, it becomes addicting. That's the way I see Goo- she didn't have friends for a large period of time, so now that she has Mac (and I guess Coco- what's up with their weird friendship?) to pay attention to her, she kind of craves everyone listening to her. Am I making any sense? Probably not, knowing me... "Neighbor Pains," though it wasn't my favorite appearence of Goo, made me laugh because I could remember the bossy aspect of my personality. I'm just glad to see some moderates. I'm not obsessed. I'm not going to dress up as her for Halloween. I just like the fact that I can relate. Oh, and the fact that I'm a compulsive talker is there, too. -Marty 8-) |
Same here, no obsession, it was just that for a little bit it looked like everyoen was either straight-out pro or anti-Goo, making me a member of the former group.
And also, no need to apolgize, Marty, I really liked the point you made, and that you had experience to back yourself up on it. But foremost, I was very glad and interested to see the moderate viewpoints - and to know that there people who aren't either-or on the subject, period. |
The problem with Goo, I think, is that the thing that made her interesting (although I don't necessarily think it made her dynamic) -- that she's really a lonely girl who creates IFs because she doesn't have human friends -- was more or less completely solved in the first episode she was in and has never been spoken of again. So now she's back to being a kid who talks too much, and not much else.
Also that they put her in whenever they can now, along with Cheese, and seeing even one of them constantly can get hard to stomach after a while. |
"Hard to stomach" is a good phrase.
We're all lactose intolerant, so we can't handle Cheese. We should eat things that are edible, so we shouldn't swallow Goo. That was lame. |
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Well, I think what would REALLY get Goo going would be this- what would Goo's reaction be if Mac suddenly (for some reason or another) used against her the fact that she had no real friends before him?? We already know from "Go Goo Go" that what Mac says can throw Goo into a tizzy. I don't know; just an idea to bring the "lonely girl" aspect of her character back. -Marty 8-) |
Goo's former "I'm all by myself and hated by society" characteristic was what made her most unique, I think. And then she got friends and just became some really wierd kid who talks way too fast.
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Personally, I find the "I have no friends" story to be cliched and not have enough substance to carry a story arc for more than one episode...so I'm kind of glad they haven't gotten her back to angsting. I feel that her character was most effective in Bus the Two of Us. She didn't take up too much time with her jabber, she didn't wrestle with any other characters for the spotlight. She provided a good gag (in the form of Boy of Spotted-Tongue and Japanese Speakin' Bloo) and then she left without too much of splash. She was far more subtle in that episode than in any other I've seen her in. If they can manage to do that more often, I'd be able to tolerate her fine.
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Yeah, that was a good little cameo. She and Cheese aren't characters you can have anything revolving around, there just isn't any depth! They work very well i nthe backgrounds, like Cheese in The Big PIcture was.
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Goo is my favorite because she is so much like me. The one thing that is different is that I can't even think as fast as Goo talks.
(Oh, and I'm a guy.) Goo and I are both teased because of what other people believe a girl and a guy should be. They aren't open to the 'bright' differences that make us unique. But they are perfectly fine with other kinds of people. I have also been accused of being 'fake.' But I'm truly happy and intensely passionate about almost everything I do. Goo is not 1 demensional at all. She is what your imagination makes her. Not what Craig McCracken uses her for. Cheers to Goo! For standing up and proclaiming 'I'm a happy person. In a world that is full of sad and kind of sad people.' |
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I've not seen enough episodes with Goo in but I endorse everything you say. Personally I find my own brain goes up and down between Goo at the top and Marvin the paranoid android at the bottom. It's fun at the top but annoying having to deal with all the silliness it creates when you start coming down again. Theres nothing fake about it, just neurochemistry I suppose. You and Goo are cool. Not quite sure what Craig McCracken uses her for, though. |
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Thank you for explaining how she is what your imagination makes her. I mean, she is used for what Craig wants her for, but the reason she seems so one-demensional is because there is open room for imagination. It's in her personality, and it's how she seems. Good for you. -Marty :goo: |
I caertainly agree that Goo is NOT 1 Dimensional.
But she gets used in many episodes and with her formerly being a extra char, it might look like she is being overused, but trough season four she deserved a spot at the list of main characters, but everyone is still used of her being a side character,or at least I am. Maybe I'm not the right guy to tell you this, since i did not saw any episodes of season four, but i do think Craig could use Goo a little bit less... Just a little bit :goo: |
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