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Voxxyn 10-08-2006 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Medikor (Post 9810)
The only thing about Frankie that doe's is her leg's. And that's only on rare occations like when she was in her bathing-suit laying on the beach in "Squeeze the Day".

I have to admit, she looked weird there. I think her very thin legs were why she was drawn in oversized short shorts instead of, um, a more "traditional" bikini bottom.

She looked MUCH better at the very end of the episode when the gang returns, which I think is because she was standing and she was wearing the green hoody over her.

kageri 10-08-2006 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Voxxyn (Post 9824)
I have to admit, she looked weird there. I think her very thin legs were why she was drawn in oversized short shorts instead of, um, a more "traditional" bikini bottom.

She looked MUCH better at the very end of the episode when the gang returns, which I think is because she was standing and she was wearing the green hoody over her.

Yeah, a bikini bottom would look weird on her because her legs are so thin and far apart... and I don't think she has any hips. Also, I'm kinda surprised nobody's mentioned Mac's lack of ears as another anomaly. Except they're not really anomalies, or at least I don't think so because I never thought about them much. For cartoon characters, most of the Foster's cast are pretty normal-looking.

Dude13 10-09-2006 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kageri (Post 9864)
. Also, I'm kinda surprised nobody's mentioned Mac's lack of ears as another anomaly. .

I think for that particular case, Mac's hair just covers them up, or at least I sincerely hope that's the problem, at least for Mac's sake. Lord only knows how many screenshots I checked, but as of yet I have yet to find one that even so much as hints at the presence of ears on the little guy.

Medikor 10-09-2006 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Voxxyn (Post 9824)
I have to admit, she looked weird there. I think her very thin legs were why she was drawn in oversized short shorts instead of, um, a more "traditional" bikini bottom.

She looked MUCH better at the very end of the episode when the gang returns, which I think is because she was standing and she was wearing the green hoody over her.

She did look better at the end of the episode. She just looked "right". I think the sunglasses may have thrown me off a little too. They don't really look like her style. Maddam Foster on the other hand would probobly wear them.8D

Kzinistzerg 10-09-2006 04:22 PM

..Yeah! Mac dosn't have any ears. But i'd also think his hair covers them up, becuase it would suck to have terrence ears. I know guys with semi-long-ish hair and it covers their ears.

he looked normal as in "not weird", within the confines of normal cartoon proportions. He wasn't at the edge.

Nyo 10-09-2006 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dude13 (Post 9878)
Mac's hair just covers them up.

Seems logical.

BlooCheese 10-09-2006 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dude13 (Post 9878)
I think for that particular case, Mac's hair just covers them up, or at least I sincerely hope that's the problem, at least for Mac's sake.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Oh yeah! EARS! I've forgotten people had ears. With longish hair being in style, you just don't see those funky flaps of skin and cartilage anymore.

Cassini90125 10-09-2006 05:43 PM

Anybody notice that Frankie's ears changed at one point? The older episodes have them drawn differently than they are now. I like the new set a little more than the originals.

Dude13 10-09-2006 05:56 PM

You're right, I almost completely forgot about that - the whole issue of Frankie's ear transformation.

Yeah, in the second season they definitely changed permantly. Well, except for the exceptions of "World Wide Wabbit" and "Who Let the Dogs in?" - but that was only because I'm pretty sure those two were originally made after the rest of the original season, but for some reason were aired with all the other first-season episodes.

Ack, I cant describe how confused I was before the secodn season, and the change was permanent.

Voxxyn 10-09-2006 06:14 PM

Since we're on the subject of Frankie's ears, I have a question: are those tiny black strands and that black dot on both of them... piercings?

Cassini90125 10-09-2006 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Voxxyn (Post 9940)
Since we're on the subject of Frankie's ears, I have a question: are those tiny black strands and that black dot on both of them... piercings?

That's what I've always assumed. I believe the strands are small loop earrings while the dots are studs of some type. They're one reason I added earrings to her Sim (that and because I really wanted to give her some jewelry :frankiesmile: ).

Dude13 10-09-2006 06:19 PM

That was always my guess, and if that's the case, then she certainly doesn't have any problems with wearing as many as she can, seeing as she wore those and some fancier ones in "Frankie My Dear."

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/2/26-0009.jpg

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/2/26-0057.jpg

....At least I assume those black things are earrings.

Cassini90125 10-09-2006 06:22 PM

Yeah, the big gold ones in the second picture, those were gorgeous on her. I'm not sure if any of the other characters underwent similar changes that I haven't noticed.

Dude13 10-09-2006 06:26 PM

I think that was the biggest change in physical appearance any of the characters went through, unless I also haven't noticed or forgotten something.

Voxxyn 10-09-2006 07:25 PM

In any case, I think the "special features" of Frankie's facial appearance--those earrings and distinctively thick eyelashes--look good on her. I'm usually not into that stuff as I think it's easy to overdo it, but she does it just right.

Sparky 10-09-2006 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dude13 (Post 9944)
I think that was the biggest change in physical appearance any of the characters went through, unless I also haven't noticed or forgotten something.

I rather think the redesign of Terrence's hair between the first and later seasons was a fairly big change, myself.

Dude13 10-10-2006 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 9958)
I rather think the redesign of Terrence's hair between the first and later seasons was a fairly big change, myself.

Whoa......COMPLETELY missed that big one ENTIRELY.

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/1/00-0003.jpg

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/3/35-0059.jpg

Yeah, now that I actually took the time and effort to check, a huge change definitely occured there at some point. Ack, can't beleive I missed that....

Medikor 10-10-2006 05:38 AM

I was wondering about her bang's. You know, those strands of hair that went down past her ears? They don't seem to be there half the time.

Dude13 10-10-2006 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Medikor (Post 9989)
I was wondering about her bang's. You know, those strands of hair that went down past her ears? They don't seem to be there half the time.

Yeah, I think those are also part of the major change Frankie went through betweens seasons one and two, along with the permanent change in her ears.

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/1/00-0025.jpg
http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/1/11-0012.jpg
http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/1/110-0025.jpg

They were there the first season and in the pilot, but since then they've vanished completely.

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/2/21-0053.jpg
http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/2/23-0053.jpg
http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/2/26-0019.jpg

Strange....

Voxxyn 10-10-2006 09:04 AM

I believe the strands were present in Season 1, and then mostly phased out ever since. And like Dude13 said, they might've been absent in "WWW" and "WLTDI" because they were made after the other Season 1 episodes.

And I say MOSTLY because I've seen them make the ocassional brief re-appearance. They can be seen clearly in "Duchess of Wails", when she walks into the foyer only to be instantly shooed off-screen by Duchess... but they're not seen for any of Frankie's other scenes in that episode.

Dude13 10-10-2006 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Voxxyn (Post 10001)
And I say MOSTLY because I've seen them make the ocassional brief re-appearance. They can be seen clearly in "Duchess of Wails", when she walks into the foyer only to be instantly shooed off-screen by Duchess... but they're not seen for any of Frankie's other scenes in that episode.

Whoa, you're absolutely right about that.

I just checked it on YouTube, and they're definitely there for just that brief moment, and we have all yet to see them since.

That's.....very, very odd that the animators would do that.

Cassini90125 10-10-2006 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dude13 (Post 10002)
Whoa, you're absolutely right about that.

I just checked it on YouTube, and they're definitely there for just that brief moment, and we have all yet to see them since.

That's.....very, very odd that the animators would do that.

I believe the technical term is "Oops!". ;D

I don't really have a strong opinion on the bangs. If I had to choose I'd say keep them, but losing them doesn't detract from her appearance in the slightest.

Medikor 10-10-2006 10:59 AM

It probobly just depends on who's animating her at the time. I don't think she NEEDS them, but they are cute. But when they're gone they just seem to make Frankie look... I don't know, happier? Maybe she just dosan't sloutch as much...

Fomalhaut 10-10-2006 11:03 AM

Okay - as for me, Goo seemed 13, but that's just my opinion.

As for the way she walks: notice that the cowboy boots' edge someway is ABOVE her knees? That's the reason why.
And, I know there are scenes in which she curves her knees, but you can notice the cowboy boots become shorter there. If she stands, or walks, you can see they're too high. And, if we don't count their heels, she's only a little taller than Mac.

Dude13 10-11-2006 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fomalhaut (Post 10008)
And, if we don't count their heels, she's only a little taller than Mac.

That explanation is good enough for me.

Now, if only we could figure out how she manages to support that large a head on so tiny a torso - ack, although it is a cartoon, that particular issue still bothers me more than it probably should.

Fomalhaut 10-11-2006 11:37 AM

As for the tiny torso, Goo's buld reminds me of DeeDee from Dexter.

Dude13 10-12-2006 03:19 AM

Whoa, I never made that connection before.

However, I don't think Goo is older than Mac - to me she doesn't act like mature enough to be in her early teens, I always simply pictured her as just being naturally taller than Mac, which isn't that much without her trademark cowboy boots.

Kzinistzerg 10-12-2006 04:32 PM

Yeah, maybe slightly older but not by much. Mac sure acts older.

Dude13 10-12-2006 04:37 PM

It feels like a lot of people went with the "Goo is older" theory. I dunno, for some reason that never occured to me, I just looked at her and automatically assumed that she was simply taller than him.

lucyrocks73 10-18-2006 05:47 PM

I guess it comes from the fact that she is immature when it comes to actions.

Of course, she could just be older and have a maturity level of someone much younger than her.

I don't know, just an idea.

-Marty :goo:

Dude13 10-19-2006 11:22 AM

Augh, it'd just be nice if we had that one basic fact on how old she was. Unfortuantely, all we can do is guess and hoep something comes up in a future episode to give us a clue.

Medikor 10-19-2006 02:58 PM

Maybe we'll get a birthday episode for Goo. I could see the Foster's gang holding a party for her. And that could possibly reveal her age.

lucyrocks73 10-19-2006 06:05 PM

And that would make me smile, because it would save me a TON of work for the upcoming fic I'm writing (okay, was writing... I haven't touched anything in two months...).

How much do you think Wilt weighs? I mean, he's so tall and skinny...

I'm surprised he doesn't fall over. Or maybe he's so tall that he can just take a step and that will keep him balanced.

-Marty :goo:

pitbulllady 10-19-2006 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lucyrocks73 (Post 11377)
And that would make me smile, because it would save me a TON of work for the upcoming fic I'm writing (okay, was writing... I haven't touched anything in two months...).

How much do you think Wilt weighs? I mean, he's so tall and skinny...

I'm surprised he doesn't fall over. Or maybe he's so tall that he can just take a step and that will keep him balanced.

-Marty :goo:

According to Wilt's "Coco Card", he is..and I quote..."130 pounds of lean muscle", and he is 10 feet tall. Wilt IS amazingly strong in spite of his deceptively skinny appearance; YOU try moving a full-sized refrigerator(one full of stuff at that)with just one arm! As I stated way back in this post, I tend to look at the characters more as charicatures or exaggerations, and think of what they'd be like if they were indeed alive. I doubt that Wilt's head would be that large, or his torso that small in proportion to the rest of him, or his legs that long, and he'd probably have a noticeably sinewey,lean build, which is typical for many basketball players.

pitbulllady

LaBlooGirl 10-20-2006 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kzinistzerg (Post 9070)
yah, she does. I did a few drawings of mac as a teenager after pondering this question, and I can tell you; if his head stays the same size he looks NORMAL. Weird, i mean, but cartoon-normal.

This STILL rasies the question of how his skull works. If he smiles really really alot the smile goes up waaay too much. Like, here:

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/4/406-0036.jpg

I mean, HOW DOES THAT WORK? If mac's face can go from

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/4/405-0081.jpg

to

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/4/402-0066.jpg

to

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/4/402-0083.jpg

to

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/4/403-0042.jpg

you KNOW someting physically impossible is going on.

Same for Bloo, though sicne he's an imaginary friend it dosn't really matter.
http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/4/403-0078.jpg
http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/4/401-0029.jpg

(linking is okay for screencaps, right sparky?)

Aw those were cute pictures, and great comparisons! :bloogrin

Dude13 10-20-2006 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lucyrocks73 (Post 11377)
How much do you think Wilt weighs? I mean, he's so tall and skinny...

I'm surprised he doesn't fall over. Or maybe he's so tall that he can just take a step and that will keep him balanced.

-Marty :goo:

Never thought of WIlt to be one with a natural balancing problem - I always personally thought Goo would be the one to have such an issue as she's so thin yet she has such a sizable cranium to support on such a skinny frame.

Good thing this is a cartoon, or else it feels like the poor little girl wouldn't even be able to stand up under the weight of her own head.

HappyFoppy 10-23-2006 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Medikor (Post 11336)
Maybe we'll get a birthday episode for Goo. I could see the Foster's gang holding a party for her. And that could possibly reveal her age.

"I Only Have Surprise for Goo."

*brick*

Well, anyway, compare this

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/4/406-0036.jpg

with this.

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/4/408-0079.jpg

It's likely a weirdo style of drawing. :cheesegrin:

Dude13 10-23-2006 03:29 AM

Yeah, a bunch of the characters seem to be able to stretch their mouths back an almost omprobably distance, even for cartoons (Mac can actucally stretch his past his eyes.)

Kzinistzerg 10-23-2006 03:50 PM

That's my point. his skull is physically impossible.

Did anyone else notice that frankie and bloo and mac underwent Facial animation changes? House of bloos does not include mac's teeth; his mouth doe not open down and it kinda moves arpound, whereas in later episodes he actually has a jaw. same for frankie. bloo's shape changed a bit, too.

EDIT: OMG, failiac? sorry, I meant Facial, i guess I have to check my writing...

Cassini90125 10-23-2006 04:40 PM

I had not noticed that, but it gives me a good excuse to watch House Of Bloo's again. :)


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