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pitbulllady 08-20-2006 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonya (Post 1371)
Those were also my thoughts too. You know, I meant to post that same kind of thing in my post, but I erased it to edit it I guess, and then forgot about the whole thing. Well anyway, like I was gonna say, Mabe Wilt did something in his past that was so awful that he couldin't forgive himself, still can't, and has been slipping further and further into insanity for years ever since, and his sanity growing worse. The poor sweethearted soul, mabe he is......cracked.....Yeah, that's what he is, he's cracked. Mentally disturbed. Actually, mentally disturbed sounds better, but cracked explains him just as well. I have a thought, mabe his injuries, if self inflicted, are an obvious cry for help, but he's just to scared to tell anyone about what is troubling him. You never know, there could be more than one reason of why he doesn't talk about his past. We ALL know that his past is to painful to talk about, and we've got the theory that when Wilt hurts himself that it's out of guilt because he possibly done something horrible in his past, or at least something HE thinks is horrible, that he just can't let it go. Those are two reason's of wich we thought of, now here's the other reason why he might not like to share his past with anyone, mabe it's because he's afraid that if he tells somebody what happend, IF HE's the one who done what he thought was horrible, then everybody will hate him, and everybody will abandon him. Or.......here's another thought. We DO know he has a past, and we don't know what happend to him, sooo, mabe something happend to him and he's afraid to tell anyone because they might not believe him. Like this case, a child gets robbed of their innocents, the abuser tells the child that if THEY tell, their family and everybody they know gets hurt or murdered. It could also be the possible case with Wilt. And when I say "robbed of innocents", I really do mean something like that, or a very simular situation, like threat of a different kind.

I seriously doubt that Wilt's injuries are self-inflicted, since they were obviously incurred a long time ago, and when the series started out, Wilt seemed to be pretty stable, emotionally. In fact, he was pretty laid-back and very difficult to "ruffle". You never saw him get so spazzed-out like he did in "Bus the Two of Us", or talk of "punishing" himself. People getting angry with him or things not going right seemed more or less like water off a duck's back to Wilt; he just took 'em in stride. Now, though, he seems very paranoid about making someone mad or upset, especially Frankie, and things get to him much more easily. I think that his fear of abandonment(phobia is more like it) has something to do with it, but WHY has this fear been triggered so powerfully now? You have to wonder what the catalyst has been to push Wilt in the direction he's going, emotionally, in recent episodes. I DO know that people who have experienced Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder never completely get over it; it can recur if the person is put under enough stress or exposed to certain trigger situations, and for certain Wilt HAS experienced that at some point in his past. The key is finding out what has instigated this latest manifestation of PTSD, though I still believe that until Wilt is able to openly discuss the unpleasant aspects of his past, any respite he gets from that past is going to be short-lived.

pitbulllady

LaBlooGirl 08-20-2006 05:58 PM

Well this is the amazing kind of character development in Fosters...something that little kids probably won't pick up on...but that us older viewers will, and I bet the writers are doing that purposefully, just to make the show more interesting for the older viewers.

We saw the changes in Bloo, he's regressing and becoming more child-like, and causing chaos any chance he gets. Our diagnosis? He hates being seperated from Mac, because he's used to being with him just about every minute of every day when they were together at the apartment. Being seperated in literally a day was a bit painful emotionally...and since Bloo doesn't do emotion well (not usually anyway), he resorts to bad sorts of attention-getting, as if saying, "Screw you world, from taking me away from my creator like this." Heck, call me dramatic, but I really see it that way.

Wilt... *sighs*, something awful happened to Wilt. Really and truly awful. Like I've said before in older posts, I always wanted to believe that Wilt did something very heroic and therefore that was how he lost his arm, you know, jumped- in- front- of- a- bus to save a kid theory. But, as I see his reactions in different situations (I missed "Bus the Two of Us", dern, I really want to see what PB was talking about) I'm not so convinced of that anymore.
I'm convinced Wilt was subject to act of cruel violence. And I'm going to hang on my idea that he was trying to protect his creator (EVEN BY DOING SOMETHING BAD, WHICH PB HAS THEORIZED).....let's say for example and brainstorming only...let's say Wilt tried to protect his creator by hiding drugs for him/her. You know, his creator does something stupid (not that the creator is a bad person, just made a bad choice), tries to get money by sellling drugs. Wilt wants to protect said person, and so he hides them, flushes it, whatever.

Now the creator is in trouble because he/she does not have the drugs, and no money. The person who gave the drugs threatens creator.
Then the person who threatened decides the worst punishment would be to take it out on Wilt...and hurt him. Or.....they try to attack the creator but Wilt jumps in, getting hurt instead. Something to that effect.
The possibilities are endless, and truth be told, I don't like thinking about it much...I doubt Craig would go into any graphic details, but I do hope he'll at least give some clues as to why Wilt is the way he is.

Psychologically, we know and realize that Wilt is a bit unstable. I just hope he never breaks completely, poor guy.

Sims Katie 08-20-2006 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 1406)
I seriously doubt that Wilt's injuries are self-inflicted, since they were obviously incurred a long time ago, and when the series started out, Wilt seemed to be pretty stable, emotionally. In fact, he was pretty laid-back and very difficult to "ruffle". You never saw him get so spazzed-out like he did in "Bus the Two of Us", or talk of "punishing" himself. People getting angry with him or things not going right seemed more or less like water off a duck's back to Wilt; he just took 'em in stride. Now, though, he seems very paranoid about making someone mad or upset, especially Frankie, and things get to him much more easily.

He lost his bed when Bloo moved in, right? I haven't been able to see the first episode, sadly, so I'm only assuming, but he talks about not having a bed anymore in "Room with a Feud", and when he does get one finally at the end of the episode Bloo knocks him out of it again.

Chaos Wielder 08-20-2006 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 1406)
I seriously doubt that Wilt's injuries are self-inflicted, since they were obviously incurred a long time ago, and when the series started out, Wilt seemed to be pretty stable, emotionally. In fact, he was pretty laid-back and very difficult to "ruffle". You never saw him get so spazzed-out like he did in "Bus the Two of Us", or talk of "punishing" himself. People getting angry with him or things not going right seemed more or less like water off a duck's back to Wilt; he just took 'em in stride. Now, though, he seems very paranoid about making someone mad or upset, especially Frankie, and things get to him much more easily. I think that his fear of abandonment(phobia is more like it) has something to do with it, but WHY has this fear been triggered so powerfully now? You have to wonder what the catalyst has been to push Wilt in the direction he's going, emotionally, in recent episodes. I DO know that people who have experienced Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder never completely get over it; it can recur if the person is put under enough stress or exposed to certain trigger situations, and for certain Wilt HAS experienced that at some point in his past. The key is finding out what has instigated this latest manifestation of PTSD, though I still believe that until Wilt is able to openly discuss the unpleasant aspects of his past, any respite he gets from that past is going to be short-lived.

pitbulllady

You and Tonya both have very interesting ideas and views about what happened to Wilt. He really didn't seem (well, he didn't at first, anyway) to take it too hard when people got angry or frustrated with him and he pretty much just let it roll right off (Like when Madame Foster gets angry with him in "The Big Lablooski"). But he definitely DOES seem more paranoid about making anyone mad or upset now. It's obvious that he came the closest to cracking in "Bus the Two of Us". It seems like this kind of stress is REALLY beginning to take a toll on him a LOT. Wilt is beginning to seem like he can't handle a great amount of stress or any kind of pressure very well anymore due to the events of that episode and his behavior in it. I mean, he almost lost it several times! Because of this I'd agree that he has experienced PTSD at one point. *sighs* I just wish we all knew what it was that made him like this, though.

As for him doing something so bad at one point that he is afraid to tell anyone about it (example: like the hiding drugs thing that LaBlooGirl was talking about earlier) somehow I don't really believe that that's the case, but I still wouldn't totally put it out of the picture, either. I'd say that it's a possibility due to his recent behavior. It could be driving him to insanity and eating at him so much that it caused him to react to certain things like he is now; thus becoming mentally disturbed. So I'm not saying it's not possible because it is, actually. Now I still don't think that he has injured himself, but the memories of whatever he COULD have done that was 'bad' could be eating him up inside.

Now, about losing the bed, I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I thought that Wilt gave up HIS spot so that Bloo could have it (didn't this happen in the pilot episode?). Meh, I can't remember for sure. XP

Tonya 08-20-2006 08:30 PM

I didin't mention anything about drugs, it was LaBlooGirl who gave that theory. Yeah, the PTSD is a pretty good one though. I wonder if Craig's reading any of these, and getting ideas on what to put in the future ep "GWH". But one thing I've been thinking about speaking of that ep, I hope "GWH" isin't something incredibly stupid. I dunno why but I have this gnawing fear in the pit of my stomache that it might be a BIG disapointment. I mean, LOOK AT ALL THE THEORIES WE GAVE, AND THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD ON WILT'S PAST, and when I think about "GWH", if it's gonna let us down, (you never know), I get really sad. I mean seriously, how long has the topic of "What happend to Wilt?" been going on? I bet "GWH"'s gonna be a flop. I'm not bashing or nothing, atleast, I don't think so? But, remember when we first saw advertised "Foster's Goes to Europe"?, we all probably thought, "Yay! There getting a vacation!", and look how it turned out. It was mostly about trying to get to the air port in time! It's just a fear of mine. "GWH" I know will be VERY interesting, but, I'm just afraid it's not gonna be everything we hoped it would be. Sorry if I'm getting slightly off topic, but it was on my mind right now.

Chaos Wielder 08-20-2006 09:13 PM

Oops! I'm sorry-for some reason I thought you were the one that mentioned the drugs thing instead of LaBlooGirl. My bad! :P

Anyway, I don't think you're bashing. You're right, actually-there's always the possibility that we could be let down when we see GWH and that's mainly because so many people have such high hopes for it. When people have such high hopes, then there's a higher chance that it'll be a let-down because everyone seems to expect REALLY great things out of it. Personally, my hopes for GWH are really REALLY high...higher than they've ever been for any other Foster's episode. If it's even a BIT of a let-down, then I think I'm gonna be utterly disappointed, in all honesty. I'm pretty sure that it'll be enjoyable, but there's one thing that I worry about (and I mentioned it before on another forum somewhere) and that is that it'll not focus enough on Wilt's past and will focus too much on Bloo and the gang actually LOOKING for him (just pay attention to the title of the ep really good and you'll see what I mean). Some other people have said that they're sure that it'll focus on Wilt a lot as well, but I just hope that that's true. :(

You've got a point about FGTE. A lot of people had high hopes for it, it seems and now it seems like it's one of the weaker episodes. It's a shame that it ended up the way it did (I don't think it was THAT terrible, but I will admit that it was a bit of a let-down).

One Radical Dude 08-20-2006 09:31 PM

The best thing to do is to NOT think about Good Wilt Hunting so much. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be excited about it or anything. It's just I've learned to not hype up or set a exceedingly high level of expectations, because more often than not, you will likely pick at the things you disliked, and some of those things will really take away the enjoyment of the episode.

As for pbl's words, well said.

Tonya 08-20-2006 10:19 PM

I know! Wouldin't it be awful if "GWH" is a whole movie about the gang trying to find Wilt, and at the end they find Wilt and ask him were he's been, and he says "Oh, sorry! I was just out taking a walk, I didin't know it was Reunion Day!", and then everybody's all happy, laughing, and then the cheerful, whimsical music plays as the show goes off. THE END.
Speaking of all this, when's "GWH" gonna come on anyway? In November? I know it's one of the later months of this year.

antgirl1 08-20-2006 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonya (Post 1479)
I know! Wouldin't it be awful if "GWH" is a whole movie about the gang trying to find Wilt, and at the end they find Wilt and ask him were he's been, and he says "Oh, sorry! I was just out taking a walk, I didin't know it was Reunion Day!", and then everybody's all happy, laughing, and then the cheerful, whimsical music plays as the show goes off. THE END.
Speaking of all this, when's "GWH" gonna come on anyway? In November? I know it's one of the later months of this year.

That would be one freaked-up ending.

Sims Katie 08-21-2006 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tonya (Post 1479)
I know! Wouldin't it be awful if "GWH" is a whole movie about the gang trying to find Wilt, and at the end they find Wilt and ask him were he's been, and he says "Oh, sorry! I was just out taking a walk, I didin't know it was Reunion Day!", and then everybody's all happy, laughing, and then the cheerful, whimsical music plays as the show goes off.

I'd be really annoyed.

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Speaking of all this, when's "GWH" gonna come on anyway? In November? I know it's one of the later months of this year.
Nov. 24, 2006

pitbulllady 08-21-2006 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sims Katie (Post 1424)
He lost his bed when Bloo moved in, right? I haven't been able to see the first episode, sadly, so I'm only assuming, but he talks about not having a bed anymore in "Room with a Feud", and when he does get one finally at the end of the episode Bloo knocks him out of it again.


In the pilot episode, Wilt felt sorry for Bloo because Bloo was new to Foster's and did not have a bed, and at that time, Bloo actually did not press the issue to went to sleep on the floor in a corner of their room. Wilt voluntarily gave up HIS bed(which even has his name on it)and agreed to sleep on the floor underneath Bloo's bed, so that BLOO would not have to sleep on the floor.

By the time that "Room With a Feud" aired, it had become obvious that to Wilt, this sleeping on the floor gig is starting to get stale. This probably has to do with the change in Bloo's behavior, since Bloo now acts much more like a jerk and shows little gratitude for people doing nice things for him. Even so, when Bloo shows up in the new room and asks Wilt to move over and make room for him, Wilt obliges by rolling off the bed onto the floor, once again.

pitbulllady

LaBlooGirl 08-21-2006 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 1497)
In the pilot episode, Wilt felt sorry for Bloo because Bloo was new to Foster's and did not have a bed, and at that time, Bloo actually did not press the issue to went to sleep on the floor in a corner of their room. Wilt voluntarily gave up HIS bed(which even has his name on it)and agreed to sleep on the floor underneath Bloo's bed, so that BLOO would not have to sleep on the floor.

By the time that "Room With a Feud" aired, it had become obvious that to Wilt, this sleeping on the floor gig is starting to get stale. This probably has to do with the change in Bloo's behavior, since Bloo now acts much more like a jerk and shows little gratitude for people doing nice things for him. Even so, when Bloo shows up in the new room and asks Wilt to move over and make room for him, Wilt obliges by rolling off the bed onto the floor, once again.

pitbulllady

I don't understand that whole thing, why can't they just put another bed in the room for pete's sake, instead of allowing someone to sleep on the FLOOR? I know Wilt is kind and he does this for Bloo's sake, but still. You know how small Bloo is?? Maybe they could even make a bed for him to fit in a corner, it would be small enough! Sheesh. 8D

pitbulllady 08-21-2006 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LaBlooGirl (Post 1514)
I don't understand that whole thing, why can't they just put another bed in the room for pete's sake, instead of allowing someone to sleep on the FLOOR? I know Wilt is kind and he does this for Bloo's sake, but still. You know how small Bloo is?? Maybe they could even make a bed for him to fit in a corner, it would be small enough! Sheesh. 8D


I don't know why they can't just put another bed in that room, either. Like you said, Bloo would not need a large bed(though I can imagine the hissy fit he'd throw if he had to give up the current large bed for a smaller, toddler-sized bed), and there's plenty of room for another small bed in that room. I have to wonder if Frankie or Madame Foster knows that Wilt sleeps on the floor, since I cannot recall seeing her in that bedroom when the Imaginary Friends were present, or at all, actually. Being that Wilt has asthma, it's NOT a good idea for him to sleep on the floor at all, since it's recommended that people with even sporadic asthma attacks sleep in a bed well-off the floor, with raised pillows.

pitbulllady

Kzinistzerg 08-21-2006 12:48 PM

Wilt has WHAT now? He has asthma? I didn't know that...

Sims Katie 08-21-2006 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LaBlooGirl (Post 1514)
I don't understand that whole thing, why can't they just put another bed in the room for pete's sake, instead of allowing someone to sleep on the FLOOR?

I know. They don't have a single bed available? Anywhere? I suggest the sofa, but I don't think any are long enough...

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 1550)
I don't know why they can't just put another bed in that room, either. Like you said, Bloo would not need a large bed(though I can imagine the hissy fit he'd throw if he had to give up the current large bed for a smaller, toddler-sized bed), and there's plenty of room for another small bed in that room. I have to wonder if Frankie or Madame Foster knows that Wilt sleeps on the floor, since I cannot recall seeing her in that bedroom when the Imaginary Friends were present, or at all, actually.

Maybe they don't know because Wilt never pressed the issue until "Feud". But seriously, they got all that money Coco laid, and the charity donations in "The Big Cheese". Why don't they BUY him a new bed if one's not available?

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Being that Wilt has asthma, it's NOT a good idea for him to sleep on the floor at all, since it's recommended that people with even sporadic asthma attacks sleep in a bed well-off the floor, with raised pillows.
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Originally Posted by Kzinistzerg (Post 1564)
Wilt has WHAT now? He has asthma? I didn't know that...

I didn't know that either O_O

Chaos Wielder 08-21-2006 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sims Katie (Post 1567)
I know. They don't have a single bed available? Anywhere? I suggest the sofa, but I don't think any are long enough...

Maybe they don't know because Wilt never pressed the issue until "Feud". But seriously, they got all that money Coco laid, and the charity donations in "The Big Cheese". Why don't they BUY him a new bed if one's not available?




I didn't know that either O_O

Remember that inhaler that he had at one point (I think it was in FGTE, right)? Well, you can bet that it was for the asthma. ;)

Tonya 08-21-2006 01:47 PM

Asthma, one thing that me and Wilt have in commen. I wonder if he's ever got out of breath playing basektball when in competition?

Chaos Wielder 08-21-2006 01:56 PM

Hmm...that's a good question, actually. I'm sure he probably has gotten out of breath playing b-ball at some point, though. I have a slight case of asthma myself and can get quite winded whenever I'm doing an outdoor activity.

Tonya 08-21-2006 02:15 PM

My asthma's not to bad either, it's just mild, like yours. I have a feeling though tht he might have his under control, like some people. Man he's an inspiration, a blind in one eye, asthmtic amputee playing b-ball.

Sims Katie 08-21-2006 02:51 PM

Yup, FGTE. Here it is :

http://fosters-home.com/screengrabs/3/36-0021.jpg

kageri 08-21-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LaBlooGirl (Post 1514)
I don't understand that whole thing, why can't they just put another bed in the room for pete's sake, instead of allowing someone to sleep on the FLOOR? I know Wilt is kind and he does this for Bloo's sake, but still. You know how small Bloo is?? Maybe they could even make a bed for him to fit in a corner, it would be small enough! Sheesh. 8D

They could get a dog bed. *shot*

taranchula 08-21-2006 04:24 PM

Now "that" would make for a funny visual...

Cassini90125 08-21-2006 04:38 PM

LOL! I'd love to see that! :D

Kzinistzerg 08-21-2006 04:59 PM

Huh... I havent seen FGTE, so did he SAY it was his? It'd be like him to have an extra just iin case one of the other friends forgot theirs.

InsaneFan 08-21-2006 05:00 PM

XD That sounds so funny, I'd gladly buy the dog bed and send it over if I could!

Of course, if I could send it there, I could send myself as well...;D

pitbulllady 08-21-2006 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 1626)
LOL! I'd love to see that! :D

Seriously...can you IMAGINE the look on Bloo's face when he sees that his new bed is a DOG bed? And we thought his whining in "Cuckoo For Coco Cards" was bad!

But yeah, Wilt has asthma, which is apparently allergy-induced. Not all asthma is triggered by the same things. Most asthmatics are allergic to something, and have to use an inhaler to open their airways following exposure to an allegin, or, they might use a product like Singulaire(also available as an inhaler)to prevent asthma attacks in the event of exposure to an allergin. Activity-induced asthma is much less common that allergy-induced asthma, so it's quite possible that Wilt has never experienced the latter, although he DID run out of breath rather quickly after trying to shake Cheese loose from his hand in "The Big Cheese", and I was surprised that he gave out of breath and energy so quickly while pursuing Peanut Butter(Wilt seems to have some problems with IF's named after food, for some reason)in "Room With a Feud". True, it can be argued that in that episode, the others in pursuit of said redneck-sounding IF ran out of breath, too, but I really would have thought that Wilt would have more stamina than the others.

Yes, Wilt DOES specifically refer to the inhaler in question as "MY allergy medication"(emphasis mine), so yeah, it was indeed his. It would be extremely dangerous and uncharacteristically irresponsible for Wilt to carry such medication for someone else, unless they had the exact same prescription. That stuff CAN cause a potentially-lethal heart arrythmia if used by the wrong person, or used incorrectly, so it would not be sensible for someone who was NOT an asthmatic to carry it, or for someone to share it carelessly with others, without knowing their medical history.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 08-21-2006 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 1636)
Wilt seems to have some problems with IF's named after food, for some reason

Or it could've been when Peanut Butter says that he HATED the basketball wallpaper and that the beds were too long - Wilt had tears as he sawed the bed. It probably hurt his feelings or something. XD

Sparky 08-21-2006 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sims Katie (Post 1496)
I'd be really annoyed.


Nov. 24, 2006

Great, so I get an explosion of GWH threads for my birthday. Swell. ;)

scary_dream 08-21-2006 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneFan (Post 1633)
XD That sounds so funny, I'd gladly buy the dog bed and send it over if I could!

Of course, if I could send it there, I could send myself as well...;D

Hah... I could see Bloo's facial expression being somewhere close to Squeak's in BASEketball whenever they tell him that he has to sleep in the dog bed... priceless!

LaBlooGirl 08-22-2006 05:53 AM

LOL A dog bed. I have to admit, I didn't think of that one.

Yes, Bloo would do just fine in a dog bed. X)

Kzinistzerg 08-22-2006 06:00 AM

He should totally have a dog bed. But Chewy mind find it...

x_dummkoff_x 08-22-2006 03:50 PM

is that dog even around anymore?

pitbulllady 08-22-2006 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by x_dummkoff_x (Post 1857)
is that dog even around anymore?

Yeah, he was in "Land of the Flea", which was a fairly recent episode.

pitbulllady

x_dummkoff_x 08-22-2006 04:56 PM

I wonder if we're ever gonna see that dog again............
O.o oh, sorry!
carry on.

Sims Katie 08-22-2006 05:37 PM

The imaginary puppies were in "Crime after Crime" as well.

But back on topic... um, Wilt. Have to mention him at least once :p

antgirl1 08-22-2006 10:39 PM

I know Wilt is red, but sometimes he appears pink...in the dark. It could just be the lighting or something, but I think it could be something else.

scary_dream 08-23-2006 12:30 AM

Maybe it's just my television, but for the longest time I though of him as sort of an orange-ish red. Never really pink, though.

Sims Katie 08-23-2006 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 1919)
I know Wilt is red, but sometimes he appears pink...in the dark. It could just be the lighting or something, but I think it could be something else.

Yea, in the dark they color him differently so he's visiable. But he's red in the daytime.

antgirl1 08-23-2006 08:55 AM

Oh, I thought it was something that "just happens". XD

Mac 08-23-2006 06:12 PM

I think I'm the only one who doesn't really like Wilt. Sure he's nice and sweet, but to me he's TOO nice and sweet. Of course I've only seen a handful of episodes (And the one where he flips out) but I just don't really like him too much.

Hopefully I didn't tick off any of you Wilt fangirls XD


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