Mother of Mac

[Bloo2daMacs]

What are you're opinions on her. I've heard very many people say she is a cruel, vicious, evil witch thing... okay maybe not the witch part though. I personally think that she just didn't understand the concept about Bloo, and how he was basically real too, and other kids Mac's age still had imaginary friends. As a matter of a fact, I bet if Mac told his mom that other kids his age still had imaginary friends than she would not really mind. I just think that she isn't very supportive of Mac (and maybe of Terrance too) Is because she works a lot, like Wilt said.

P.S. Please don't hate me for not saying cruel things about Mac's mom...

[Kzinistzerg]

From what I've seen she loves her kids but is probably too distracted by her job and all to see everything that's going on.

[Imaginary Light]

His mom isn't really viscious. I mean, in Infernal Slumber, she did show love towards Mac. She just works WAY too much (she gets up at 5am to go to work and doesn't get home until nighttime? Whoa...). I don't really think she wanted Mac to give up Bloo because she thought he was getting too old, even if that's what she said in the pilot. I just think that Bloo was just too much of a nuissance to put up with, and she wanted to get rid of him somehow.

[Bloo2daMacs]

His mom isn't really viscious. I mean, in Infernal Slumber, she did show love towards Mac. She just works WAY too much (she gets up at 5am to go to work and doesn't get home until nighttime? Whoa...). I don't really think she wanted Mac to give up Bloo because she thought he was getting too old, even if that's what she said in the pilot. I just think that Bloo was just too much of a nuissance to put up with, and she wanted to get rid of him somehow.

yes, I agree completely. 8-)

[Cassini90125]

As do I. I think she's probably overworked and underpaid and just wanted some peace and quiet, so bye-bye Bloo. :(

[One Radical Dude]

I still don't approve Mom of forcing her younger son to give up his best friend. She may have been overworked, underpaid, and stressed, but those things don't excuse her from doing what she did in the Pilot. I still don't like her, even though she did show some love towards Mac in "Infernal Slumber."

[Cassini90125]

I'm not suggesting that it was justifiable. I think in the world where Foster's takes place it's a cultural norm, a tradition, to be rid of one's IF by a certain age. How or why such a tradition would evolve I don't know; I do know that in our own world we have plenty of abhorrent, pointless cultural traditions that defy all logic, so I assume that other settings may have their own as well. At least there doesn't seem to be much in the way of social sanctions for breaking the tradition; Paul and Bowling Paul seem to be doing fine, for instance.

[Kzinistzerg]

Neh, presumably the overall idea would be that anyone who keeps their friends has no real ones and so on. IF this had been happening since forever then the traditions ought to have evolved differently but I think it's pretty accurate as to what would happen if you just stuck it in todays's world.

[Cassini90125]

Somewhere, a cartoon-fixated anthropologist has probably written a paper about it. ;)

[kageri]

Maybe it was at least partially because Bloo was another mouth to feed. Another mouth to feed probably wouldn't be so hard if it wasn't.... y'know... Bloo's.

So it wasn't very considerate of her to make Mac give up his only friend, but without her the entire premise of the show (within the context of the show) would not come to be, so she's cool.

[TraverseTown]

I'm acually hoping to see some more developments with "The Mother".

[Kzinistzerg]

Hehe, maybe they went camping with Bloo once and that's why...

[pitbulllady]

I still think that the main reason why Mac's mom wanted Bloo gone had nothing so much to do with Mac's age, in spite of what she told him, but because of Bloo's behavior. She knew that Bloo was an instigator of trouble, and she simply could not deal with both him AND her job at the same time. Bloo was like the dog that rips up sofas, pees on the floor, barks nearly non-stop, steals food from the kitchen table, knocks over the trash, claws at the wallpaper and carpets and bites the hand that feeds him. I STILL do not agree with simply throwing an Imaginary Friend out to fend for himself/herself, though. With all the advertizing that Foster's does, and with it being right there in the same city(considering how many families from out-of-state must drive all the way to Foster's to sign over an Imaginary Friend), it's hard to believe that Mac's mom didn't know about it already. It just seems really cruel to me that throwing out or abandoning a dog or cat will get a person jail time, while throwing out a being which is virtually identical to a human in every respect but outward appearances is perfectly acceptable.

pitbulllady

[McGee's Jabberwock]

Nice points, pitbullady. I was quite ticked at how Miss Gulch she was acting towards Bloo, but she seems to be under a lot of stress, and her husband's dead or divorced so it's understandable. She could be some sort of statement about how distant from their parents kids nowadays are, what with her Miss Bellum face hiding and her rare appearances. Maybe threads about her should be put in the 'minor characters' section rather than the 'main characters' section because she's not really a 'main character'.

[One Radical Dude]

Darn, pbl said something I would've said -- but didn't. :D I agree, I mean jeez -- throwing out an Imaginary Friend, like it is some kind of useless toy or junk. :wiltshock:

[ch3353-h4xx0rrrr]

PBL, Mac's mum never said "Throw him out on the street," but she told Mac to get *rid* of him. That could mean a lot of things. "Give him to the neighbor kids. Take him to the dog shelter. Just get him out of this house."

I'm sure she knew that Mac wouldn't just put him in a cardboard box as they drove away into the sunset, with Mac feeling no regret as Bloo's eyes welded up in tears as he began to sing "When He Loved Me." /Toy Story 2 reference

Wouldnt it be nice if we were older
Then we wouldnt have to wait so long
And wouldnt it be nice to live together
In the kind of world where we belong

You know its gonna make it that much better
When we can say goodnight and stay together

Man, I'm just full of songs, aren't I?

[Sims Katie]

I was quite ticked at how Miss Gulch she was acting towards Bloo, but she seems to be under a lot of stress, and her husband's dead or divorced so it's understandable.
I haven't seen every episode so I could be wrong, but do we even know she was married? You don't have to have a husband, living or dead, to have a kid.

(plus, lately I've begun to wonder if Mac and Terrence have the same father. They're very different physically, and about 7 years apart in age)

[McGee's Jabberwock]

I haven't seen every episode so I could be wrong, but do we even know she was married? You don't have to have a husband, living or dead, to have a kid.

(plus, lately I've begun to wonder if Mac and Terrence have the same father. They're very different physically, and about 7 years apart in age)

This is a kid's show; I doubt they'd have affairs.

[One Radical Dude]

To me, I interpret her message to getting rid of Bloo as "Bloo is a useless, annoying little toy, Mac. You don't need that thing anymore. Grow up." :(

[Sims Katie]

This is a kid's show; I doubt they'd have affairs.

But they've already touched the edge of the envelope before, and she's only in a few episodes so its not like they're blaring it on the screen with a bullhorn

[Sparky]

PBL, Mac's mum never said "Throw him out on the street," but she told Mac to get *rid* of him. That could mean a lot of things. "Give him to the neighbor kids. Take him to the dog shelter. Just get him out of this house."


Gotta comment. Now, I guess this might just be me, but I wouldn't let my eight year old (and no shouts of "but he's SOOOO mature!") give away a HAMSTER. *I*, the PARENT, would go online or something, hit a hamster forum maybe, and find either a rescue or someone to adopt it. I'd put even *more* effort into finding a home for a being who can talk and think like a human being. It strikes me as massively irresponsible to expect a child to find a good home for an imaginary friend, let alone to expect him to do it in 24 hours. (And if she didn't actually expect him to do it in 24 hours, I have to wonder if she was surprised when Bloo was gone so quickly. Think she asked Mac where he took Bloo? *I* don't.) Reminds me of the episode of Animal Cops or one of those shows where a woman went to JAIL for allowing her 13-year-old to let his dog starve to death chained to the fence in order to teach the KID to be responsible. SHE went to jail, not him.


I am not a parent, and I doubt I ever will be, but I think its pretty obvious that Bloo's mere presence at home was not the problem - and in fact Bloo's sudden removal without ANY other sort of intervention was WORSE than just leaving him there and ignoring the whole situation. I do not blame Terrence 100% for all the problems between him and Mac and Bloo (unlike a lot of people who would like to believe its all his fault), but I do know that taking Bloo away from Mac was NOT the right thing to do. Arguments about the fact that if it didn't happen the show wouldn't exist aside, of course.

[One Radical Dude]

There is no doubt in my mind that Mom's decision to make Mac get rid of Bloo made things worse than before. There's no doubt that she works hard at her job, but as a parent, I don't believe that she's doing a very good job. I agree that it's not Terrence's fault for the conflict with Mac and Bloo. Bloo isn't just a thing, he's real to Mac. He's basically an addition to the household. You don't just get rid of anyone like that. >:(

[LaBlooGirl]

What are you're opinions on her. I've heard very many people say she is a cruel, vicious, evil witch thing... okay maybe not the witch part though. I personally think that she just didn't understand the concept about Bloo, and how he was basically real too, and other kids Mac's age still had imaginary friends. As a matter of a fact, I bet if Mac told his mom that other kids his age still had imaginary friends than she would not really mind. I just think that she isn't very supportive of Mac (and maybe of Terrance too) Is because she works a lot, like Wilt said.

P.S. Please don't hate me for not saying cruel things about Mac's mom...

I'm repeating myself from the previous board, but...don't like her, and never will.
I don't HATE her, I used to...sometimes I tend to jump ahead and judge people, but then I get to see the character development as the show progresses and I learn said character isn't so bad. Mac's mom isn't all that bad, she's just painfully naive about children and Imaginaries, and about when the "proper" time is to seperate them. I mean, is there ever a truly "proper" time? If there was, it should be a decision that both the creator AND Imaginary Friend can agree on, and if they seperate, it would be a mutual understanding, not being wrenched apart with tears and sadness....such as in Mac's case. That is what made me feel very badly towards Mac's mom...she hurt her son so deeply and didn't even realize it, because she's PAINFULLY NAIVE.

But well, giving her the benefit of the doubt.....she at least sticks up for Mac and deals out the punishments to Terrence. ;D (Ala the sleepover ep.) Well okay, maybe Terrence didn't deserve it that time...but whatever, my point is stated. lol

[Cell_Phone_guy]

But well, giving her the benefit of the doubt.....she at least sticks up for Mac and deals out the punishments to Terrence. (Ala the sleepover ep.) Well okay, maybe Terrence didn't deserve it that time...but whatever, my point is stated. lol

Well, how many times has Terrance done something to Mac and gotten away with it scott free. Maybe it's justice coming in a different form. But still, how could someone like Terrance make a hole in the ceiling by himself. (If they were on the top floor, they could blame it on a plane flying overhead! ::) ).

Up until Infernal Slumber, (which I still have to see in its entirety), I was under the impression that Mac's mom knew about Foster's. I also thought it would be interesting if they invited Mac and his mom, (not sure about Terrance) to Foster's for dinner. I could imagine that prior to dinner, Mac would be meeting his mom there, and would be fretting the small stuff, worried if something went wrong at dinner, that he won't be allowed to come back.

[Sims Katie]

Up until Infernal Slumber, (which I still have to see in its entirety), I was under the impression that Mac's mom knew about Foster's. As was I. It was a surprise to learn that Mac was keeping it a secret for her. It also brings up a lot of questions, like why she hasn't noticed, and how he's been getting away with it.

[Kzinistzerg]

It's certainly possible she does know, But then again, he goes home earlier than she does most of the time anyway.

[pitbulllady]

I tend to think that perhaps Mac's mom DOES know about his visits to Foster's, but isn't letting on that she knows, but is instead hoping he'll just "outgrow" Bloo eventually and stop visiting him. As long as his visits are not causing more problems, like causing Mac's grades to slip or something, she probably won't say anything.

pitbulllady

[One Radical Dude]

I tend to think that perhaps Mac's mom DOES know about his visits to Foster's, but isn't letting on that she knows, but is instead hoping he'll just "outgrow" Bloo eventually and stop visiting him. As long as his visits are not causing more problems, like causing Mac's grades to slip or something, she probably won't say anything.

pitbulllady

Then again, maybe she really doesn't pay attention to what's been going on with Mac. :P I shudder the thought of Mac outgrowing Bloo. :wiltshock:

[billytheskink]

hopefully they won't ruin the joke and show her face one of these days.

[Cell_Phone_guy]

On the older forum, someone posted that Perhaps Mac's teacher might mention to Mac's mom about how Mac brought Bloo to show-and-tell once. And Mac's classmates may ask "How's Bloo?"

One idea I have is that if Mac's teacher did mention to Mac's mom about Mac bringing Bloo to show-and-tell, Mac's mom might assume that Mac did that just before she told him to get rid of Bloo. Likewise if Mac's classmates asked Mac "how's Bloo" if she was around, she might assume that they don't know that Mac doesn't have Bloo as far as she knows.

[Kzinistzerg]

Then again, maybe she really doesn't pay attention to what's been going on with Mac. :P I shudder the thought of Mac outgrowing Bloo. :wiltshock:

I don't htink he will... And he's goign to have a LOT of trouble explaining Bloo to his future girlfriend.

[kageri]

*forbids Mac from ever having a girlfriend*

[Cassini90125]

*forbids Mac from ever having a girlfriend*

Don't worry, they'll never write him one.

(Note to self - do NOT post newest Sims photos!)

[Kzinistzerg]

Yeah, they won't. But seriously, he'd get Orlando Bloo all over the place. except Bloo'd have to use Wilt.

[Invader Bloo]

I don't get why she dosen't let Mac see Bloo, atleast he's not living there anymore.
I really want to know how he got his mom to let him go camping & to Europe wit h Bloo then.

[Cell_Phone_guy]

I don't get why she dosen't let Mac see Bloo, atleast he's not living there anymore.
I really want to know how he got his mom to let him go camping & to Europe wit h Bloo then.

She doesn't know about Mac's "arrangement" at Foster's when it comes to Bloo, and I think that Mac didn't tell her because he doesn't want to risk that his mom wouldn't let him go, so Mac keeps Foster's a secret. Of course, he never considered that Bloo would host a sleepover at his apartment without his prior consent.

Now how Mac got his mom to let him go camping and to Europe, that I'm not too sure of.

[HappyFoppy]

There is no reason. Har har har.

Well, diffferent topic - On wiki, somebody said Mac's mom will appear in GWH. Are we sure of that, or is that some wiki crap?

[Thornwhistle]

I believe Wiki is 50% truth,50% junk and lies.

[koosie]

I don't get why she dosen't let Mac see Bloo, atleast he's not living there anymore.
I really want to know how he got his mom to let him go camping & to Europe with Bloo then.

There was a totally logical explanation in the episode how Mac got to go to Europe with Bloo and the gang. As for the camping thing, I expect there was a similar reason.

[billytheskink]

it would seem unlikely that Mac's Mom has no idea that Mac still spends a great deal of time with Bloo.
I think any confrontation on the matter is conveniently ignored because its tough to write an entertaining story for. At least one that isn't cliched.

[taranchula]

it would seem unlikely that Mac's Mom has no idea that Mac still spends a great deal of time with Bloo.
I think any confrontation on the matter is conveniently ignored because its tough to write an entertaining story for. At least one that isn't cliched.

Yeah I totally agree with that. The whole "OMG will Mac's Mom find about Foster's?" thing would get so tiresome if it were in every episode.

[Emma]

Agreed. It sounds like a plausible plot for a special (a la Good Wilt Hunting), because of the increased allowance of more "serious" emotions. But it would require too much continuity to resolve through normal episodes. Who knows. Maybe they'll use that for their last episode.

[lucyrocks73]

Last episode?

But won't the show last forever, until our kids have kids?

Ha, just kidding.

I agree completely, though.

-Marty :goo:

[Kzinistzerg]

It would be good as a special. I have to agree that Mac's Mom has got to ahev some idea that he goes to fosters.

[billytheskink]

Terrance knows, and, even though he's not the most trustworthy person, if he mentioned Mac's trips to Foster's enough then their mother would be awful suspicious at the very least.

It may simply be that she doesn't care too much...

[T-Rexotron]

I do agree Terrence is not the most trustworthy person,
but Mac might say something as:"Mom, i'm going to play with a friend after school.I'll be back at five"
So if Terrence does say something about his trips, his mom will think Mac's "friend" has a surname: Foster...
which is quite right.

The reason i think she told Mac to get rid of Bloo is different.
I think Mac's mom once had an imaginary friend, but around the age of 8, she wasgetting teased with it. So she did not want her son to get in the same trouble with Bloo so she kindly said he should get rid of Bloo

[LaBlooGirl]

I do agree Terrence is not the most trustworthy person,
but Mac might say something as:"Mom, i'm going to play with a friend after school.I'll be back at five"
So if Terrence does say something about his trips, his mom will think Mac's "friend" has a surname: Foster...
which is quite right.

The reason i think she told Mac to get rid of Bloo is different.
I think Mac's mom once had an imaginary friend, but around the age of 8, she wasgetting teased with it. So she did not want her son to get in the same trouble with Bloo so she kindly said he should get rid of Bloo


The problem with that is her use of the word "rid", like Bloo is some kind of used toy and not a creature with real feelings. Plus she had to KNOW full well those two were close friends and that she hurt Mac by taking him away. I just don't care for the attitude most people have towards Imaginaries, or clearly Fosters wouldn't need to exist.

[kageri]

The problem with that is her use of the word "rid", like Bloo is some kind of used toy and not a creature with real feelings. Plus she had to KNOW full well those two were close friends and that she hurt Mac by taking him away. I just don't care for the attitude most people have towards Imaginaries, or clearly Fosters wouldn't need to exist.

I agree with that. For example, I don't think parents giving their babies or young kids they can't afford to take care of up for adoption would call it "getting rid of them". Maybe you'd say that about, say, a dog, but dogs can't understand you, and you wouldn't say it in front of a kid who was really attached to it. I don't hate her or anything, and without her the whole premise would not be, but jeez... if she had to rip Mac's only friend away from him, she could've said it a little nicer.

[Kzinistzerg]

How nicely can you tear best friends apart?

[kageri]

How nicely can you tear best friends apart?

Touche, but how about wording it like.... "give him another home" or something. I dunno. At least don't make it sound like he's going to be thrown out into the street.

[One Radical Dude]

The reason i think she told Mac to get rid of Bloo is different.
I think Mac's mom once had an imaginary friend, but around the age of 8, she wasgetting teased with it. So she did not want her son to get in the same trouble with Bloo so she kindly said he should get rid of Bloo

I can't agree with you there, T-Rex -- I just can't. The way Mom talked into Mac by getting rid of Bloo, she made it seem as if Bloo is some sort of toy or useless object, instead of someone that's as real as a human being. Anyone with a brain should never force someone to give up someone that's very close to him/her...never! The two are best friends, though I also seem them as "family".

[LaBlooGirl]

What he said. :)

[BlooCheese]

It's against the law to abandon a cat or a dog. And yet IF's can be abandoned without a second thought.

[LaBlooGirl]

It's against the law to abandon a cat or a dog. And yet IF's can be abandoned without a second thought.

Yep, that's why it's so disturbing to me.
I even re-watched the pilot again just to carefully pay attention to that scene. Mac's mom, despite all her talk about "getting rid of Bloo" still says sorry for knocking him over when she opens the door. What is WITH that lady? How can you SPEAK to a LIVING CREATURE and apologize for hitting it, but at the same time, decide to toss it out the door (so to speak) on a second's notice when you think that's the way to solve the problem between your sons? And furthermore, did anyone notice how she agreed with Mac calling Terrence a "jerk"? If I were a mom, I would not condone or allow my children to be calling each other names (especially from an eight year old), no matter HOW terribly they got along.
She really confuses me....I think this woman needs to go back to mothering school or something. I can give her some credit, considering she's a single mom, but still...I just don't like that lady.

[Kzinistzerg]

I dunno, i've called my irritating older brother things MUCH less complimentary that 'jerk' and had my parents agree with me, because i'm right.

[Cell_Phone_guy]

I can almost imagine Frankie arguing with Mac's mother, most likely about Mac and Bloo. I have a picture in my head of the scene with Frankie angrely yelling and pointing her finger at Mac's mom.

[One Radical Dude]

I can almost imagine Frankie arguing with Mac's mother, most likely about Mac and Bloo. I have a picture in my head of the scene with Frankie angrely yelling and pointing her finger at Mac's mom.

You read my mind. I can imagine that happening, also.

[LaBlooGirl]

You read my mind. I can imagine that happening, also.

Oh I'd LOVE to see that happen. Frankie chewing Mac's mom out? Whoo yeah. :scaryberry:

[Voxxyn]

Frankie might sympathize with Mac's mom about being overworked--but she'd also point out how she remains loyal to the imaginary friends despite all she goes through as caretaker.

Yeah, a confrontation would be quite interesting.

[T-Rexotron]

yeah, could be a hidden scene of "Blooooooooo!"

[Cell_Phone_guy]

As bad as Mac's mom is, believe me, she could be worse. She could be a psychotic control freak like Lois from Malcolm in the Middle. :macwor:

[Sparky]

Well, according to BFAHP, Mom at least knows about Madame Foster:

http://www.fosters-home.com/forum/myimages/pieformfoster.jpg

:jk: I know, its just the game and not necessarily canon - but still, either its a bad mistake or a clue...I dunno.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I seriously don't see Mac's mom in this light.....AT ALL. I don't think she was heartless when she told Mac to get rid of Bloo, I think she felt she was doing it for him to grow up and not rely on Bloo so much. Not as some kind of punishment.

But truth be told, I think she really just didn't understand how important imaginary friends are to people or Mac. I don't think she hates them and judging by how she seems to treat mac during the Christmas and Slumber party episodes, she really cares for him.

She concerns about him and isn't the mean, monster of a mother people seem to be making her out to be just because she decided to get Bloo out of the house. Honestly, I think she is now fully aware of how important they are to Mac's life.

[One Radical Dude]

I still believe it was heartless to force Mac to give up someone he cares about greatly, even if Mom meant well. Maybe, my tune will change one day, but not right now. :P

[pitbulllady]

I seriously don't see Mac's mom in this light.....AT ALL. I don't think she was heartless when she told Mac to get rid of Bloo, I think she felt she was doing it for him to grow up and not rely on Bloo so much. Not as some kind of punishment.

But truth be told, I think she really just didn't understand how important imaginary friends are to people or Mac. I don't think she hates them and judging by how she seems to treat mac during the Christmas and Slumber party episodes, she really cares for him.

She concerns about him and isn't the mean, monster of a mother people seem to be making her out to be just because she decided to get Bloo out of the house. Honestly, I think she is now fully aware of how important they are to Mac's life.

MY reason for disliking the woman to some extent is not so much how she treats Mac, but her view of Imaginary Friends. I mean, these are living, feeling, sentient beings, yet to her they are no more than a piece of garbage to be disposed of when you get tired of them. She had no more compassion for what might have happened to Bloo if he'd been thrown out of the house than if he were a plastic fork from the previous night's dinner! She gives no evidence that she ever thinks about him now, that she thinks Mac has "gotten rid of him". She apparently doesn't worry about the well-being of her OWN Imaginary Friend, either. It's like I've often stated, you can go to jail for tossing a dog or cat out on its own to survive(or not), and most people would consider doing so a horrible thing worthy of punishment, yet that same compassion isn't extended to other living things that are just as intelligent, articulate and emotional as WE are! It is also a cruelty to the child who still obviously loves the Imaginary Friend in question, whether it's done out of "punishment" is irrelevent. Regardless of the motive of the parent for wanting the Imaginary Friend gone, it still winds up punishing the child by putting him/her under tremendous emotional stress. Mac might LOVE his mom deeply, but his TRUST in her has been shaken, otherwise he would not feel the need to sneak around to visit Bloo.

pitbulllady

[LaBlooGirl]

MY reason for disliking the woman to some extent is not so much how she treats Mac, but her view of Imaginary Friends. I mean, these are living, feeling, sentient beings, yet to her they are no more than a piece of garbage to be disposed of when you get tired of them. She had no more compassion for what might have happened to Bloo if he'd been thrown out of the house than if he were a plastic fork from the previous night's dinner! She gives no evidence that she ever thinks about him now, that she thinks Mac has "gotten rid of him". She apparently doesn't worry about the well-being of her OWN Imaginary Friend, either. It's like I've often stated, you can go to jail for tossing a dog or cat out on its own to survive(or not), and most people would consider doing so a horrible thing worthy of punishment, yet that same compassion isn't extended to other living things that are just as intelligent, articulate and emotional as WE are! It is also a cruelty to the child who still obviously loves the Imaginary Friend in question, whether it's done out of "punishment" is irrelevent. Regardless of the motive of the parent for wanting the Imaginary Friend gone, it still winds up punishing the child by putting him/her under tremendous emotional stress. Mac might LOVE his mom deeply, but his TRUST in her has been shaken, otherwise he would not feel the need to sneak around to visit Bloo.

pitbulllady

::applauds:: You are correct sir....I mean mam. ;)

Oh and might I add, Wilt is a prime example of what can happen when you force an Imaginary out the door (if that was the case), they get into serious trouble sometimes. Poor Wilt. :(

[Carlaz]

I still believe it was heartless to force Mac to give up someone he cares about greatly, even if Mom meant well. Maybe, my tune will change one day, but not right now. :P


My feelings as well! :(

[Mr. Marshmallow]

My only wonder is exactly how familar with the concept of imaginary friends is Mac's mom? We know she knows about Bloo, but they never really state if she ever knew him personally or ever talked to him or did anything like that. I don't think she realized how human like he was.

Because we don't get any idea of what happens in Mac's life prior to "House of Bloo's", we can't really tell how Mac's mom interacted with Bloo or actually saw him. I honestly think she was just doing something in the stupid lines of "Best for her son".

However, we also have no idea how she would feel about imaginary friends now. People change and I can't recall anything recent saying Mac's mom still hating imaginary friends. Mac still freaks out over the fear his mom may find out, but I wonder if she would react differently now.

We've gone through quite a few episodes since "House of Bloo's" and even characters like Mr. Herriman, Wilt, Eduardo, and Mac have broken out of their character "roles" and shown new sides of themselves. I don't think its totally impossible for Mac's mom to possibly have a different view on IFs now.

[LaBlooGirl]

We've gone through quite a few episodes since "House of Bloo's" and even characters like Mr. Herriman, Wilt, Eduardo, and Mac have broken out of their character "roles" and shown new sides of themselves. I don't think its totally impossible for Mac's mom to possibly have a different view on IFs now.

That would be neat, actually. Maybe I could learn to like her then, if she proved to have a different view of things after all. :) Like in GWH, if she DOES show up to see HER Imaginary, that would be pretty cool...and who knows in that moment she could realize how much she missed her Imaginary, and understand Mac better in the process.....and do something like say it was okay for him to visit Bloo on a daily basis, even if he couldn't live with them anymore.

Now that would just make her likable, wouldn't it?

[Mr. Marshmallow]

My point is to not judge characters simply on earlier episodes or statements. Good exmaple. I felt Frankie's reaction to the dumping of her computer in "World wide wabbit" was a bit out of touch for her, though funny it sure as hell was.

But then someone pointed out it was an earlier episode and as we have seen, Frankie is not that "weird" with her stuff. Same with Bloo. Bloo was actually more mellow and less rude or dim then he was back then as opposed to how he is now.

Bloo changed alot and I don't think its fair to hold things against characters when it was seasons ago since we last saw any further signs of this IF bashing from Mac's Mom. Evereyone deserves a second chance, don't judge her entire existance on one episode forever.

[Cassini90125]

Evereyone deserves a second chance, don't judge her entire existance on one episode forever.

Not everyone. I don't mean him specifically, although he certainly comes to mind immediately. I agree about Mac's mom, though; I hate what she did in "House Of Bloo's", but I've never seen her as the ogress that many others make her out to be.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I do believe people deserve a second chance, regardless of anything that person has done, it is not your job to mark them for life as something they did or said. If the person betrays again or does something bad again, then the trust is gone forever.

But I think the option for get a second try should always be available. "Batman Beyond" had the main guy Terry had this friend named Charlie, a theif who was once Terry's best friend gets out of jail and begs Terry to help him out. Terry does seeing as how they were friends.

Charlie goes right back to stealing, trust is gone forever, and we see Charlie is a crook through and through....but at least Terry had the decency to offer someone who didn't deserve it, a second chance. Its important to have. I still just am shocked that 1 episode still leaves this image of Mac's Mom to everyone.

I really never got that memo.

[Cassini90125]

Nope. Some offenses are inexcusable. You do it once, you're done. I won't bother citing real-world examples; the list is far too long, and everybody knows the names anyway. And whether it is my job to judge them or not is irrelevant. It's human nature to judge others. Everyone does it. It may not be right by one standard of ethics or another, but that's how it is.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I think people judging other people are inevitable, but I don't think "that's how it is" covers everything in terms of basics of what's right to forgive and what's not and all that jazz.

I do agree with you on some things are inexcusable, though I don't believe that what Mac's mom said is one of those things. I think this might be getting off topic tho.

[Cassini90125]

Probably is. But again, I agree about Mac's mom. I've said this before, but I still think that giving up one's IF, voluntarily or otherwise, is a cultural tradition of the Foster's universe. We have our own such traditions, some just as vile, in the real world. They make absolutely no sense, and are often evil by any reasonable definition of the word, but people follow them anyway. Mac's mom is not bad, in that sense, just tradition-bound.

[Voxxyn]

I, too, think that some people are taking their dislike of Mac's Mom way too far. She's not heartless! :o

It'd be nice if Frankie confronted her, but I really doubt she would "angrily yell" and "chew her out" like some people her said. I think Frankie would instead have a civilized chat with her, in which she would try to get Mac's Mom to understand her and the Foster's stance on IFs... and maybe--just maybe--convince her to allow Bloo to stay at the apartment with Mac once in a while.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Yeah, I think people are seeing as the meeting between Frankie and Mac's Mom as some sort of wrestling match over morals and how to raise Mac or something. It really isn't that critical considering how good Mac's Mom seems to be to Mac.

I think the tradition thing is more plausible then this heartless mom bit. She seemed decent and caring for her son during "Infernal Slumber", I think her issue with Bloo was because she felt Mac was getting too old and needed to move on.

I don't think she harbers a personal loathing for IFs or Bloo (Unless he did something isanely BAD to piss her off to high hell and force her to boot him out, but that's another story). I think she just wanted her son to not be picked on.

She seems concerned for Mac every time I've seen her with him, just like when she sounded freaked when Mac confessed he was upset at not having any underwear for Christmas. She sounded really concerned he felt so broken.

Plus she got him everything he wanted (he even said it), the issue was the Santa thing and that's another case. The point was, she cared enough to buy him everything he wanted and cared that he seemed upset at Christmas.

Doesn't sound that harsh or vile of a mom to me.

[Sparky]

I hate to point it out but the truth is that some of us, who think about a parent making her kid basically throw their IF out, might think differently if we were born and raised in the universe Foster's takes place in. If you know what I mean.

[LaBlooGirl]

I hate to point it out but the truth is that some of us, who think about a parent making her kid basically throw their IF out, might think differently if we were born and raised in the universe Foster's takes place in. If you know what I mean.

You couldn't have said it better, Sparky.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I hate to point it out but the truth is that some of us, who think about a parent making her kid basically throw their IF out, might think differently if we were born and raised in the universe Foster's takes place in. If you know what I mean.

That's a BIG IF considering what a drastic and incredibly large difference their world is from ours.

[kageri]

I agree that it's probably a tradition in the Foster's universe to get rid of your IF when you "outgrow" it. Just like having an imaginary friend past a certain age is leered at in our society, although in their universe the IFs are flesh-and-blood, living creatures.

Mac's mom obviously isn't an evil person, seeing how she treats Mac. She loves him, she just doesn't understand how deep the bond between him and Bloo is.

[One Radical Dude]

Right, Mom isn't evil or necessarily mean by any means. Still, even if this were a tradition to give up IFs, I still don't find it okay to give up someone that's very important to a person's life. I find that unacceptable.

[Cell_Phone_guy]

It'd be nice if Frankie confronted her, but I really doubt she would "angrily yell" and "chew her out" like some people her said. I think Frankie would instead have a civilized chat with her, in which she would try to get Mac's Mom to understand her and the Foster's stance on IFs... and maybe--just maybe--convince her to allow Bloo to stay at the apartment with Mac once in a while.


It would depend on Frankie's mood when she confronted Mac's mom. (i.e. Herriman had been getting on her nerves all day, or Mac being a big help at Foster's recently.)

[Cell_Phone_guy]

Yeah, I think people are seeing as the meeting between Frankie and Mac's Mom as some sort of wrestling match over morals and how to raise Mac or something. It really isn't that critical considering how good Mac's Mom seems to be to Mac.


Well, in the event that Mac's mom ever finds out about Mac going to Foster's, and when she goes to confront him, after the percieved confrontation between Frankie and Mac's mom, I think that if she still doesn't approve of Mac going to Foster's, I'm sure Madame Foster would talk with her and tell her that she likes it when Mac comes around. I'm sure after that, she would let him continue going because of the prase of a "little old lady" who finds Mac to be a sweet boy and would be upset if he couldn't come any more.

[GrimTheLost]

Okay this is kind of weird. I was playing BFAHP and Mac said that his mom made a cake for Madame Foster. So according to the game she already knows.

[Crash-N-Cortex]

Mac's mom is a cool character. She does care for her children and works a lot. Mac's mom appears in a Foster episode once or twice in each season.

[Sparky]

Okay this is kind of weird. I was playing BFAHP and Mac said that his mom made a cake for Madame Foster. So according to the game she already knows.

Yeah I remember that. I think I may have screencapped it. I think I mentioned it on the forum too but I forget where.

I think the writers of the game just don't know the score. ;)

[Sama-chan]

Btw, will we ever see her face? 8D

[girl_named_goo]

In Foster's universe, Imaginary Friends are regarded with the same wide range of sympathy as cats and dogs in our universe. In our universe, one person with a dog who had to move would spend lots of time and money searching for an apartment that allows dogs, and perhaps even live in a place below their standards to keep their pet. Other people would give their dog to a friend or find them new home. Other people would just drop them off at a local shelter, and other people still would abandon the dog in a park or even have them put down. I personally would make the sacrifices to keep my dog, but who am I to judge those who would find them a new home?? How about people who give up their pet because they have behavior problems or are too large and hyper for their children?

Where does the line of sympathy stop? Some people will do anything for a dog or cat, but many don't care about "lesser" pets like hamsters, ferrets, rats, snakes, goldfish etc. Where would Imaginary Friends fit?

Mac's Mom just has a lower regard for IF's than Mac or the Foster's. She's not a bad person, and in fact, she opted to find a new home for Bloo not because she is cold, but because she felt keeping Bloo was hindering her son's development. Even if she was wrong, can we question her intentions?

[cartman414]

In Foster's universe, Imaginary Friends are regarded with the same wide range of sympathy as cats and dogs in our universe. In our universe, one person with a dog who had to move would spend lots of time and money searching for an apartment that allows dogs, and perhaps even live in a place below their standards to keep their pet. Other people would give their dog to a friend or find them new home. Other people would just drop them off at a local shelter, and other people still would abandon the dog in a park or even have them put down. I personally would make the sacrifices to keep my dog, but who am I to judge those who would find them a new home?? How about people who give up their pet because they have behavior problems or are too large and hyper for their children?

Where does the line of sympathy stop? Some people will do anything for a dog or cat, but many don't care about "lesser" pets like hamsters, ferrets, rats, snakes, goldfish etc. Where would Imaginary Friends fit?

Mac's Mom just has a lower regard for IF's than Mac or the Foster's. She's not a bad person, and in fact, she opted to find a new home for Bloo not because she is cold, but because she felt keeping Bloo was hindering her son's development. Even if she was wrong, can we question her intentions?

That sums it up pretty well from what I observed from pilot summaries. (It's not that I'm a casual viewer, but a hunger for deeper insight that leads me to reading episode guides.) On the whole, Mac's mom seems like she wants the best for him, even if she might not see things from her perspective. And given that she's a single (she is, right?) working mom, and he's a fun-loving, if conscientious young kid, there's a bit of a divide there. Not that it's anything harmful though.

[WiltsAKGirl17]

In Foster's universe, Imaginary Friends are regarded with the same wide range of sympathy as cats and dogs in our universe. In our universe, one person with a dog who had to move would spend lots of time and money searching for an apartment that allows dogs, and perhaps even live in a place below their standards to keep their pet. Other people would give their dog to a friend or find them new home. Other people would just drop them off at a local shelter, and other people still would abandon the dog in a park or even have them put down. I personally would make the sacrifices to keep my dog, but who am I to judge those who would find them a new home?? How about people who give up their pet because they have behavior problems or are too large and hyper for their children?

Where does the line of sympathy stop? Some people will do anything for a dog or cat, but many don't care about "lesser" pets like hamsters, ferrets, rats, snakes, goldfish etc. Where would Imaginary Friends fit?

Mac's Mom just has a lower regard for IF's than Mac or the Foster's. She's not a bad person, and in fact, she opted to find a new home for Bloo not because she is cold, but because she felt keeping Bloo was hindering her son's development. Even if she was wrong, can we question her intentions?

Thank you very much for the clarification, Ms. Faust. :)

I find it interesting that IF’s are given the same range of sympathy as a household pet. I disagree, but I find it fascinating. However, it leads me to ask this: why is that? Given that IF is created by a human being, doesn’t that made the vast majority of them (excluding animal friends like Chewy and the imaginary puppies, and “object friends,” such as Oveny from “Cookie Dough”) human by default?

But I’m not here to ponder the finer points of where IF’s fall into the social spectrum of Foster’s universe; the purpose of this thread is to discuss Mac’s mother. In some ways, I can understand her reasons (as I perceive them) for sending Bloo away-- she wants only the best for Mac, just as any mother would want. I know that under similar circumstances, my parents would have done the exact same thing if they thought it would be beneficial to me. I’m not necessarily supporting or denouncing her decisions and actions; I’m simply saying that I understand them.

[girl_named_goo]

It goes along the same lines as why is it ok to eat dogs in some countries, and not in others. Some may say that dogs are obviously more intelligent and/or obviously emotional than other animals and that makes them eligible for higher regard. We think it's awful to eat horses, but they do it in Europe. Indians are appalled that we kill cows here in the States, but we don't regard them highly at all.

Even closer along the lines in the show, is humankind's history of giving one type of person more or less rights than others. It still happens all over the world. Even here. Is it right or wrong? Who's to say, but it happens, and that's the way it is for IF's in Foster's. They're at the mercy of whoever cares for them and how they regard their worth.

I always wanted to make a show about the Friends having to hang around outside while Mac was in a store or restaurant where IF's were not allowed inside--- we could never make a whole story out of that, though.

[jekylljuice]

I always wanted to make a show about the Friends having to hang around outside while Mac was in a store or restaurant where IF's were not allowed inside--- we could never make a whole story out of that, though.

Hmmm, like segregation...interesting. I suppose that the closest the show came to touching upon something like that would be the potential venues of employment in "Setting a President" which specifically stated that they would not employ imaginary friends.

[girl_named_goo]

sort of... but you have to remember, even though they talk and are sentient, Imaginary Friends are NOT human beings.

Imagine being a restaurant owner and having an IF like Sloppy Moe or George Mucous in your restaurant.

[cartman414]

sort of... but you have to remember, even though they talk and are sentient, Imaginary Friends are NOT human beings.

Imagine being a restaurant owner and having an IF like Sloppy Moe or George Mucous in your restaurant.

Exactly.

I think that Imaginary Friends would be more of a taboo than cats, dogs, or other commonly accepted pets. Even if not for the repulsiveness of those two, IFs would probably be considered to be too juvenile.

With the possible exception of Jackie Khones, of course. :jk:

[pitbulllady]

sort of... but you have to remember, even though they talk and are sentient, Imaginary Friends are NOT human beings.

Imagine being a restaurant owner and having an IF like Sloppy Moe or George Mucous in your restaurant.

Where I live, some of the HUMANS are nastier, stinkier and sloppier than any of the IF's, and I'm NOT exaggerating!

It's interesting, that just a few weeks ago, my pastor and I(he's a BIG fan of the show, by the way), and my father, who is a lay minister himself, got into a discussion as to a hypothetical situation where we humans suddenly found ourselves sharing the planet with a species which is equal to us in every respect-not just sentient and capable of complex language, but also MORALLY equal-able to make decisions based on an individual AND collective sense of what's right or what's wrong, and to comprehend how their actions can affect not just others around them now, but even down the road, in the future. That would certainly characterize the Imaginary Friends in the "Foster's Universe". While they are not human, especially in terms of looks, they DO share with us the very things that we tend to think of as truly separating us from other animal species. My dogs, no matter how smart or well-trained they are, for instance, show no indication that they are aware of how their actions will affect anyone other than themselves. They don't worry about starving dogs in other parts of the world, or future generations of dogs, when they do something. They just do it. In this respect, I believe that the analogy of Imaginary Friends with various races of human is more accurate, and yes, even now, here in the US, we DO still treat certain people differently, based on their looks, how they talk, how they dress, or what they believe in. The key difference is that at least, there are laws established to protect people from such discrimination, within reasonable limits. A restaurant still has the rights to keep a person out if that person is improperly dressed, or really filthy, or exhibiting inappropriate behavior, like cursing, for instance. While Sloppy Moe or George Mucous might not be able to help how they are, I don't think anyone could argue that they would not pose at least an unpleasant distraction, if not a health hazard, to other patrons of the same restaurant, but then, where would you draw the line? If a business could prohibit someone like them from entering, what about someone like Wilt, who isn't stinky or slimy and certainly knows how to behave in public. So yeah, from my perspective, as someone who is old enough to recall times here in the South when certain races would have been treated as inferior, I would say that the comparison with how the Imaginary Friends are treated with how certain humans were treated at that time is a more accurate one. I, personally, do not consider them inferior or "lower" because they don't look like me, or came into existence in a different manner from me, but at the same time, but then, another person who has not had my experiences or grown up in the culture that I did, could see things differently. I can't consider my grandfather, for instance, who was one of my closest family members when he was still alive, to be "evil" or "bad" because for most of his life, he honestly believed that Black people were less than human and that the Civil Rights movement was the ultimate downfall of this country. That's just what he was taught, and there was no alternative, no other school of thought available to him for most of his life. I suppose that Mac's mother would be similar in how SHE views Imaginary Friends.

On that, though, continuing with the analogy of Imaginary Friends and other races or sectors of the human populace, that no one can arbitrarily "give" rights to any one group. Those who stand to gain, or lose, the most-in this case, the Imaginary Friends-are the one who have to take it upon themselves to stand up and prove their worth and equality, and while some might very well choose to pursue that, others would be just as likely to remain content with the status quo. That decision would ultimately be up to them.

pitbulllady

[jekylljuice]

Where I live, some of the HUMANS are nastier, stinkier and sloppier than any of the IF's, and I'm NOT exaggerating!


That's the dilemma right there. While there may be some imaginary friends who'd pose something of a hygiene problem to restaurants and other such venues, there'd also many others, like Mr. Herriman, for example, who'd be far more dignified and orderly than a lot of the human patrons, and who could complain that it's unfair to lump them all into the same catagory upon such grounds. And yet, if such distinctions were made, those IFs within the "less desirable" catagories could argue that this would constitute discrimination, upon the grounds that they can't help being designed as they are. IFs may not be human, but, as PBL points out, the notion of "rights" in itself is a highly arbitrary and subjective one, and the fact that they possess speech and sentience does at least give them the power to demand equal rights, however likely they actually are to achieve them. It's the same kind of ethical dilemma we'd be liable to face if an artifically intelligent lifeform ever became self-aware, I guess.

Erm, so, Mac's mother...I wonder if she has facial scarring?

[Xroc88]

I know i wouldn't want bloo in my restaurant thats for sure.

[cartman414]

On that, though, continuing with the analogy of Imaginary Friends and other races or sectors of the human populace, that no one can arbitrarily "give" rights to any one group. Those who stand to gain, or lose, the most-in this case, the Imaginary Friends-are the one who have to take it upon themselves to stand up and prove their worth and equality, and while some might very well choose to pursue that, others would be just as likely to remain content with the status quo. That decision would ultimately be up to them.

pitbulllady

I think it would be sort of unfair to put the onus on the IFs, since it would be evident they would be worthy of respect. Getting into why would open up a whole different can of worms though.

[Cell_Phone_guy]

I know i wouldn't want bloo in my restaurant thats for sure.

Yeah, I'm sure Bloo would either start a foodfight and/or call the waiters/waitresses "rip off artists" and kick them in the shin when they gave Bloo his bill.

Though the idea of Mac being in a store/restaurant that doesn't allow IF's could be made into an episode, if not a full 30 minute episode, they could make it a short like "Phone Home."

I could imagine that Bloo would try many different ways to get into the store/restaurant without success until he finally gets in and causes a big commotion which embarrasses Mac.

Also, sorry for keeping silent for so long. Teletoon hasn't shown any new episodes after "Cheese A Go-go".

[Another Castle]

Thing is- and I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before- does Foster's Home need to be a secret?

What would be the worst thing that would happen if Mac told her that he goes to Fosters every day?

Would she try and make him stop?

[taranchula]

Thing is- and I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before- does Foster's Home need to be a secret?

What would be the worst thing that would happen if Mac told her that he goes to Fosters every day?

Would she try and make him stop?

If you catch the season 4 episode "Infernal Slumber", Mac does in fact mention that he doesn't tell his mother about his daily visits and that if she did find out then she will make him stop.

Infernal Slumber was the only time that plot point was really brought up throughout the course of the series, because it served as the dramatic tension that fueled the plot of that episode, IE: Bloo holding a spontaneous slumber party at Mac's apartment in the wee hours of the morning.

[Major Abbey]

^Well said. Mac's mother also said he had to get rid of Bloo, so she probably wouldn't approve of Mac seeing him every day at Foster's Home.

[Another Castle]

I just think it would be better if they got it out of the way early on, and not keep Fosters a secret from her. It would just seem more satisfying and convenient. A bit of a pity we never got to see a meeting with Frankie and Mrs. Mac's Mother, as that has real potential

I've not seen Infernal Slumber yet, but despite my preference it still sounds like a great premise.

[taranchula]

I just think it would be better if they got it out of the way early on, and not keep Fosters a secret from her. It would just seem more satisfying and convenient.


Well it was implied that part of the reason why Mac's Mom wanted to him to get rid of Bloo in the first place is that she wanted him to "grow up" so to speak, and hanging on to that cherished symbol of child hood the Imaginary friend would be detrimental to that end.

As for why Mac's mother would think of all imaginary friends as purely childish entities despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary? Well I think living with the 2'nd most annoying imaginary friend in the world (Bloo) for five years and living next door to the most annoying imaginary friend in the cosmos (Cheese) would kind of warp ones view of the whole IF thing to that line of thinking. :p

That said if Mac's mother did find out that Mac was still hanging around in what she might consider to be a childish environment, then she'll might see it as threat to her sons development and of course put a stop to it.

[Another Castle]

Ah, OK. That makes sense.

I don't want to end up repeating what has been said in eairlier posts, but do we assume Mom works till late everyday? Or is she home around the time Mac comes home from school? I don't think it is legal to leave a 8-year-old and a 13-year-old home alone. Either way, I imagine Mac says he is going to a friends house everyday if his absence is questioned.


Despite an absent Dad and a bully brother I don't imagine Mac's life before Fosters was miserable or depressing. But do we think she has been a bad mother to Mac? After all, he does have very strong morals.

Don't think I'm over-analyzing a fun cartoon too much, I'm just trying to get an idea of this part of the setting more

[Lynnie]

I don't want to end up repeating what has been said in eairlier posts, but do we assume Mom works till late everyday? Or is she home around the time Mac comes home from school? I don't think it is legal to leave a 8-year-old and a 13-year-old home alone.
I'm trying to remember when Mac always says he needs to get back home, I'm thinking it's 6. I've always thought that Mac needs to get home because that's when his mom gets home. And in the episode "Infernal Slumber", she gets up at 5 so, now I'm wondering if she works 12 hour shifts every day (6am-6pm). Hmm... And as for it being il/legal for kids that age to be left home alone, it really depends where you're from I'm sure, and exactly how long they're home alone. I know in my country there are plenty of 12 and 13 year old babysitters who babysit younger kids while the parents work, so they could be home alone for up to 8 hours at a time (although, if the parent is going to be gone that long, they'd probably aim for a babysitter older than 13). And as for being home alone for only a few hours, it's not uncommon for many school age kids (age 7+) to do so every day.

Despite an absent Dad and a bully brother I don't imagine Mac's life before Fosters was miserable or depressing. But do we think she has been a bad mother to Mac? After all, he does have very strong morals.
There are plenty of people who think she has, but I personally don't think so. She's just a protective mother, perhaps a little over-protective. But that doesn't make her "bad". I've personally always seen a very melancholy side to Mac, and imagined that's due to what he went through when his parents divorced, maybe feeling his father abandoned him or doesn't love him. But you're right, he has good morals, and I'm sure it was primarily his mother who taught them to him.

[Cell_Phone_guy]

Perhaps Mac's told his mom he's part of some after school clubs/groups so she's most likely thinks he's staying after school.

Though I wonder how Mac's mom would react if he brought Goo home (provided Goo doesn't blab about Fosters or Imaginary friends :gooblab: :macwor:)

[KazooBloo]

What mother wants a child to grow up at eight? That's the beginning of childhood right there.

[Nitwit]

I'm surprised the creators never answer what would happen if his mom knew that Mac has visited Bloo and even if she has. Would she be mad at him for it? Plus, they never go into who or what her imaginary friend is or what he (or she) looks like. XD

[KazooBloo]

Yeah. It'd be interesting to see that Mac's Mom knows that he visits Fosters.

[Nitwit]

Or what her face looks like. lol

It took us many years until miss Bellum's face got revealed.

They say they based Franky on Lauren Faust of all people!

So the question is? Who did they base Mac's mom on..... XD

[KazooBloo]

Where did you hear that Frankie was based off of Lauren? Pretty sure Lauren the explorer was based off of Lauren as a kid.

[Cassini90125]

I heard it from Lauren herself, at a Foster's panel during Comic-Con several years ago. Explorin' Lauren was based on her as well. :lauren:

[Nitwit]

Kinda related to the thread. But someone has drawn a picture of Mac's mom with a face.

https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/trash/image/1519/42/1519422177109.jpg

It's fanart. But good fanart by an artist online.

[KazooBloo]

It's...

horrifying?

but also canonically reassuring.

:( not sure how to feel. :wiltshock:

[Nitwit]

I have the same emotions as you do bloo.

[KazooBloo]

I wish like we saw a canon version of it, like we did with Ms. Bellum in PPG.

[Nitwit]

Me too dude. Me too.