Foul Larry

[LaBlooGirl]

Okay let's not leave this guy out...even though he pretty much ruined Wilt both physically and emotionally (on some levels), I don't think he's ALL bad. Besides you heard Stats at the end say, "See, being good is easy." (Well I'm not sure if that's exactly what he said but something similar.)

Uhm, my thoughts on him? SCARY. He's HUGE. And must weigh...as much as a BUS. How he runs around like that and throws his weight around with ease is one of those mysteries. But the kid who imagined him sure made him one tough dude.
Too bad he can't play without cheating. And I almost hate him for throwing Wilt around like a ragdoll. I mean geez, Wilt pretty much got his face rubbed into the cement more than once.

SCARIEST MOVE EVER....Larry's version of a SLAM DUNK. You KNOW if Wilt had ended up behind that guy and never got rescued, he would have been smushed, forget just losing another arm or something. Yikes!

On the good points thing...I think Larry really wants to be good cause well you see that in the end. He was really worried thinking no kid would want him. (I bet his creator abandoned him at some point or another, hence why he's dressed like a hobo and hiding out in a corner when Wilt finds him.) All he said to Wilt about his creator not wanting him anymore was probably more how he felt inside himself. He seems insecure, and has to show off to get attention, even if it's negative attention, like when the crowd boos him for doing all those cheating things to Wilt.

I love his voice though. It sounded almost exactly like I imagined it before I watched the movie!

Okay so give your own thoughts. I'm done rambling here. :bloogrin

[Thornwhistle]

Maybe Larry had a hard life.

[Invader Bloo]

Larry was a jerk unless he makes up to Wilt he'll fit along nicely with Goofball in my hated character list. :frankiemad:

[Voxxyn]

Larry was brutal on poor Wilt, no denying that... but I liked that he turned out to be such a huge softie at the end. It was funny that he became so apologetic and genuinely sorry--even though he beat Wilt in the rematch and didn't suffer any consequences whatsover for his admiteddly dirty tactics. For that, I think that he's not so bad.

I still think that Frankie comforting him and "boosting up" his broken ego at the end was very adorable.

[Invader Bloo]

Him acting like a dog was admittedly funny & sorta cute.

[taranchula]

When I first saw the previews, I said to my self, they are so going to call that character "Larry" after 80's basketball icon Larry Bird.

After all he was wearing the colors of the Boston Celtics. (Green with White Trim.) the team that L. Bird played for.

And he looked pretty rocking in that hoodie I must say.

[Cassini90125]

He doesn't make a good first impression, that's for sure, but after that scene with Frankie at the end I completely changed my mind about him. He may be big, tough, and mean, but deep down he just wants to be wanted. Can any of us say different? :)

[Sumshine 904]

I dispise Larry with great intensity. He did ruin Wilt physically and emotionally as you said. But I guess I could change my mind, but the things he's done to Wilt were unforgivable so I'm still cocky.

[Voxxyn]

Yes, he was VERY mean to the Wiltster. But I think Wilt will most likely forgive him. :D

I'm not saying you're not allowed to dislike or even hate him for what he's done, though. (That'd be pretty hypocritical, knowing me and Goofball)

[antgirl1]

This why I keep saying "Before Wilt could go SPLAT against the wall". XDD

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I still think that Frankie comforting him and "boosting up" his broken ego at the end was very adorable.

Me too, hell if I was an egotistical, snaggling, and trash talking/playing basketball imaginary friend, any kind of encouraging words (followed by a tap on the end) by Frankie would get me to turn good...or jump through hoops of fire!

Fowl Larry was a nice foil to Wilt seeing as how he was designed specifically to be a Basketball opponent. Like I said in my review of the movie however, I just think Larry's reform was way too soon and seemed kinda thrown in at the last minute.

[Jabberwocky]

I don't understand why he came to Foster's? That was so random and weird. At first he was all telling Wilt he's a loser and tried to beat the snot out of him during their game but then he's nice and gentle? Where did that come from?! I mean, he was really, really nasty. It seemed so out of place.

[pitbulllady]

I'm still trying to figure out Foul Larry myself. It' s not that I cannot buy into someone changing, just not that FAST, especially when that were CREATED to be that way, as opposed to having become mean and dishonest because of experiences in life. It would also be interesting to know just WHERE Larry was living at the time Wilt contacted him via the telephone. I got the impression that he'd long since been abandoned by his creator and was living on the streets(he certainly looked like a homeless street person when we first see him), but then, how would Wilt be able to call him on the phone?

pitbulllady

[Cassini90125]

I'm not sure it was a change. Maybe his other side was there all along, and he simply let his guard down.

[taranchula]

And what happened then? Well, on That Scary Basketball Court they say, that Foul Larry's small heart grew three sizes that day.

(Sorry I had to do it, I just had to. :P )

[antgirl1]

The Grinch reference. XDD

I have NO IDEA of how Wilt's heart fits in his body, since it's "As big as his smile". XDD

[CG]

Oh, Imaginaries can change pretty darn fast. Look at what Red was created to do - smash Bloo. And did he ever? No, he didn't. So Foul Larry was created to whoop Wilt's behind, he did it not just once but twice. But he himself knowing the pain of loosing his own creator probably helped stoak the fires with his battle against Wilt. But seeing that an imaginary and it's creator CAN reconcile probably did a lot for the big lug. Me, I'm happy Larry is in Fosters, even if we probably will never see him again. He might have been created to be the bad guy of the movie, but I've always had a thing for bad guys. Plus I adore his voice.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Oh, Imaginaries can change pretty darn fast. Look at what Red was created to do - smash Bloo. And did he ever? No, he didn't.

Yeah but Red was pretty much an idiot and we at least got more or less, a whole episode to see him change rather then the like 10 minutes Larry changed after being a bad guy for 30 years.

[BabyElephant]

Yeah but Red was pretty much an idiot and we at least got more or less, a whole episode to see him change rather then the like 10 minutes Larry changed after being a bad guy for 30 years.

Also, Red's creator isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the chandelier. Terrence probably just messed up and imagined him as nice without meaning to. :terrence:

[billytheskink]

When I first saw the previews, I said to my self, they are so going to call that character "Larry" after 70's basketball icon Larry Bird.
Bird was a 1980's basketball star. Julius Erving ruled the 1970's.

Interesting choice of a name, Bird=Fowl=Foul... Larry? That's probably stretching it.
The name is an obvious homage to Larry Bird (as already pointed out), who was one of Michael Jordan's first foils. Foul Larry played more like one of the rough and tumble "Bad Boys" Detroit Pistons (Bill Lambier, Jeff Ruland, Rick Mahorn), Jordan's most notable rivals.

Foul Larry had a pretty nice shooting form.

Interesting that his creator seemed to be the only white kid in the neighborhood.

[taranchula]

Bird was a 1980's basketball star. Julius Erving ruled the 1970's.



I stand corrected, and have changed my eailer post to reflect that. :P


And hey yeah, now that you mentioned it, Julius would have actually been a better name for the character, sounds way more menacing then Larry.

But then again if you make the character more menacing then he already is, then would make his change of heart at the end of the episode way harder to swallow.

[LaBlooGirl]

Plus I adore his voice.

I said that first. :P (lol)

Interesting choice of a name, Bird=Fowl=Foul... Larry? That's probably stretching it.


Nope, it's not stretching it. I posted the exact same analogy.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Larry's voice is bad ass, but I'm mainly saying that because I'm a big fan of that particular voice actor: Kevin Michael Richardson. He's been on the show before voicing the leader of those purple alien Snot Boogies Goo created in "Make believe it or not".

He's also done voicework in the Crash Bandicoot games, Lilo and Sitch, Ratchet and Clank, Teen Titans and my FAV. role of his: the Joker on "The Batman". If they do bring back Larry I really do hope they use his troubled past as a story piece to try and make things interesting.

I've been sick of bad guys going good ever since animes seem to have abused that idea to death, especially in Yu-gi-oh. Hopefully he will be used again and made more interesting. The movie didn't really make good use of him.

[Sparky]

Interesting that his creator seemed to be the only white kid in the neighborhood.

Well, there's at least this kid:

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/specials/gwh-0099.jpg

And maybe I'll catch some more when doing the rest of the screengrabs, in the other flashback sequences.

[billytheskink]

Well, there's at least this kid:

http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/specials/gwh-0099.jpg

And maybe I'll catch some more when doing the rest of the screengrabs, in the other flashback sequences.
ah.

anyway, those kids are the clear minority. Not that it matters much, I just thought it was kinda interesting.

Larry's shooting form was nicely animated, at least I thought so. I always appreciate it when basketball is well animated (like in the Adam Sandler cartoon, Eight Crazy Nights. Didn't care too much for the movie, but the basketball sequences were fantastic.)

[antgirl1]

Yeah...Larry even got SHADING. Aww, why can't Wilt have shading too? XDD

[pitbulllady]

Yeah...Larry even got SHADING. Aww, why can't Wilt have shading too? XDD

The shading probably is intended to make Larry look more menacing, but I do like the little ads/bumpers/whatever that they sometimes show in CN, with more "realistic" versions of the characters, like the one where Mac is dragging that stick along the fence, or Wilt and the others are trying to get Ed to slide down the banister. Wilt DOES look better with that shading himself, NOT that he looks bad now!

pitbulllady

[antgirl1]

The shading probably is intended to make Larry look more menacing, but I do like the little ads/bumpers/whatever that they sometimes show in CN, with more "realistic" versions of the characters, like the one where Mac is dragging that stick along the fence, or Wilt and the others are trying to get Ed to slide down the banister. Wilt DOES look better with that shading himself, NOT that he looks bad now!

pitbulllady

Yes. It makes the characters more "real". XD

[Verity]

The Grinch reference. XDD

I have NO IDEA of how Wilt's heart fits in his body, since it's "As big as his smile". XDD

I always think: "How is there room for lungs, stomach, intestines and all, in that tiny trunk, especially with that huge heart of solid gold?":D
Even though I'm aware that he is an imaginary friend, and FHFIF is a cartoon, I can't help thinking about it.

Now, about Larry... I don't know what I think about him. But I kind of like his scary voice. And there's something about his looks or how he's animated that I like, but I can't remember what it is. Maybe it's what you guys have already said.
He also reminds me of Fatso Buccha (named after pro-wrestler Abdullah the Butcher) from the manga Air Gear (which I read almost only because it's in the manga magazine I subscribe to :P) in many ways; for instance, they're both huge heels (yeah, heel's a pro-wrestling term, but whatever).

His change from good to bad semt odd to me too, and that happens in cartoons, comics etc all the time; the bad guy apologises to the good guys, and just like that, he's good and becomes one of them. But since this show is mainly for kids it obviously doesn't have to be thoroughly realistic. And it certainly isn't - they break the laws of nature 24/7.
Now that I think about it, it happens in all kinds of movies.

Ahem... I think I have to watch GWH a couple of times to decide what I think of Larry. At least I don't despise him :frankiesmile:

[One Radical Dude]

I don't think one should totally blame Foul Larry for being what he is. A lot of it had to do with Larry's creator. At least, he's getting a chance to be with a better kid.

[antgirl1]

His change from good to bad semt odd to me too, and that happens in cartoons, comics etc all the time; the bad guy apologises to the good guys, and just like that, he's good and becomes one of them. But since this show is mainly for kids it obviously doesn't have to be thoroughly realistic. And it certainly isn't - they break the laws of nature 24/7.
Now that I think about it, it happens in all kinds of movies.

YES! YES! That's what I'm trying to say! Like when a boy his age, Mac, doesn't AT LEAST pass out from an air bag in "Bus the Two of Us". He could of DIED just from that.

That's why little children aren't aloud in the front seat. :D

[Ridureyu]

Foul Larry's a highly competetive gangsta basketball friend. This doesn't make him particularly evil, although he obviously has a mean streak and probably doesn't play fair all the time.

His "change to good?" He's been on the street for years, and now he's getting a chance to fulfill his purpose by having a kid to be his friend again. For an Imaginary Friend, that's like having a religious experience. Dude won't have to sit on the sidewalk for the rest of his life.

[pitbulllady]

Foul Larry's a highly competetive gangsta basketball friend. This doesn't make him particularly evil, although he obviously has a mean streak and probably doesn't play fair all the time.

His "change to good?" He's been on the street for years, and now he's getting a chance to fulfill his purpose by having a kid to be his friend again. For an Imaginary Friend, that's like having a religious experience. Dude won't have to sit on the sidewalk for the rest of his life.

Hadn't thought of it that way-good point! It was pretty obvious that he'd been living homeless on the streets(and the streets of Charleston are some of the toughest-especially when a hurricane blows in), probably having been abandoned by his kid not long after that infamous basketball game. After all, he was more or less created for one purpose-to defeat Wilt. Having accomplished that, he probably became a burden on his kid and his kid's family pretty quickly.

I still can't help but wonder though-HOW did Wilt manage to reach Larry by phone, if Larry was living on the streets, and better yet, how did Wilt know which number to call? Even if Larry had a cell(and I have seen lots of homeless people with cell phones and pre-paid cards), how would Wilt have been able to track him down?

pitbulllady

[koosie]

I still can't help but wonder though-HOW did Wilt manage to reach Larry by phone, if Larry was living on the streets, and better yet, how did Wilt know which number to call? Even if Larry had a cell(and I have seen lots of homeless people with cell phones and pre-paid cards), how would Wilt have been able to track him down?


You know I've given that a lot of thought since yesterday and I'm still drawing blanks. We'll just have to assume he's either more resourceful than he looks or Foul Larry himself kept in touch to continue to taunt Wilt into a re-match because as you pointed out, FL was created for the purpose of defeating him.

[pitbulllady]

You know I've given that a lot of thought since yesterday and I'm still drawing blanks. We'll just have to assume he's either more resourceful than he looks or Foul Larry himself kept in touch to continue to taunt Wilt into a re-match because as you pointed out, FL was created for the purpose of defeating him.


We have already seen that Wilt can be VERY resourceful, but we haven't seen enough of Larry to access his IQ. It's easier to believe that Wilt tracked him down, rather than the other way around. Larry would have no way of knowing that Wilt had ended up at Foster's, all the way across the continent, or for that matter, even knowing that Foster's existed, or that Wilt was still alive and hadn't just crawled off to die like an injured animal somewhere after that game. Wilt, on the other hand, would have at least had a starting point to go on in tracking Larry down, by assuming that he still lived in their old hometown, somewhere. Wilt, at least, had access to a valuable tool in locating someone-the internet. If Larry had any sort of public record, such as any run-ins with the police, or had applied for any sort of public assistance, or had a listed cell phone number, Wilt would have been able to track him down online. As we saw in "Make Believe It Or Not", Wilt is pretty computer literate, and he's had a long time and lots of patience to locate his erstwhile opponent, and we also know that Wilt is a very persistent and determined individual once he makes up his mind about something. Larry probably has had far less opportunities to use technology to locate Wilt.

pitbulllady

[Ub3rD4n]

Man, I did a whole character review for Larry (which I now realise repeats most of the sentiments in this thread, that he's not all bad) in the Good Wilt Hunting review thread, not knowing this one even existed. Man, I'm sorry!:herriman:

[ptps]

I personally like the way he contrasts so starkly against the lean, "skinny" and almost defenseless Wilt. I still scream a bit with outrage/glee/OMG whenever Larry does his "Scared, Shorty?" line because NO ONE CALLS WILT SHORTY. NO ONE. XDDD

I do agree that his "reformity" at the end was very... cheap. :/ It wasn't convincing, I mean, what the heck, I'm not buying it. XD; You have a guy who was made to be a bully, who beat Wilt's behind into the dust TWICE and didn't regret it, and suddenly he's this weepy sappy guy by the end of the game. Prolly just a way to make it a "happy" ending and all the characters get to go off the Foster's to get adopted, whoopie.

There are several inconsistencies as well - Wilt called Larry out for the game. How the heck did he even manage to reach Larry? O_o; It's clear by the end of the show that Larry was a "stray", and probably was for a damn long time. I highly doubt he was carrying a handphone around. XD;

Then again this is just me over-analysing everything to death. XD; The characters were just written to fit what the main message said anyway.

But honestly? I think Larry and Wilt could be pretty great friends once they get past the whole "YOU RUINED MY ARM AND EYE AND LIFE D: " thing and Larry stops being a jerk. They both love basketball, they'd be pretty good basketball buddies I think, while Larry is waiting out his time at the house.

[antgirl1]

I've always thought that since Larry fulfilled his purpose to his creator, (as he WAS created from JEALOUSY, you know) he was abandoned soon afterward, and became a "bully" to the other friends in the 'hood, that is, until Wilt returns to his hometown in GWH.

[WiltsAKGirl17]

Another way to look at Foul Larry after the game between him and Wilt is that his creator kept him around for a while (how long I couldn't guess). Considering that FL tanned Wilt's hide even if it was by cheating, the no-good little--! Sorry, had a moment there..., that means that FL would have secured Wilt and Jordan's role as the best basketball players in the neighborhood. Of course, this relaization wouldn't be lost on his creator, so he keeps FL around, to tan the hides of other people who want to be the best and to intimidate the other players. Eventually, his creator would get bored with him and then toss him out, but not right after the game with Wilt.

As for his "change"... I imagine that it was genuine, but I have little doubt that given the opportunity, he'd play a little hardball.

[KazooBloo]

One of my most hated characters.>:(