View Full Version : Goo
FostersFriend
08-16-2006, 09:15 AM
Don't you just love Goo. I personally think she's very creative and in many ways very smart. I feel sorry for her though the fact that she doesn't have many friends, i'm glad Mac etc is hers. Goo rocks!
FostersFriend :D
lucyrocks73
08-16-2006, 09:32 AM
I'm thrilled- Goo was moved to the main character thread!!!
It's about time...
I love Goo... she bugs me sometime, but she's basically the way I was when I was her age.
Well, add the beginnings of sarcasm, and then you've got me.
I'm a big Mac/Goo fan...
Any other takers???
-Marty 8-)
TraverseTown
08-16-2006, 10:08 AM
Goo is really cool, but she does seem to be overused since her first apperance. I loved her in "The Big Cheese" though. That was funny!
Cassini90125
08-16-2006, 10:14 AM
She's definitely getting overused. I like her in small doses, but not in every episode.
FostersFriend
08-16-2006, 10:16 AM
I agree that she is overused here and there. But the same goes to Cheese. As much as I love him Cheese is being overused aswell.
Gooey Cheese yay! 8D
ch3353-h4xx0rrrr
08-16-2006, 10:28 AM
w00t! Goo's in the Main Characters thread! =D
Neeways, yes, I love Goo. Intently. Passionately. ...lovingly... XD
vannielou
08-16-2006, 11:07 AM
goo is great, I do think she's slightly over used but not too much in a way that I'd want it to stop...does that make sense?
goo's my home girl
Kzinistzerg
08-16-2006, 11:09 AM
Yeah. She's a great character but not a staple of the show, you know? Short relevant appearances are better than whole episode-long ones, usually.
lucyrocks73
08-16-2006, 11:58 AM
Y'see, I love Goo, I really do. But I think big appearences such as in Go Goo Go are her thing, and not little ones like in the past few episodes.
When she's just "in where the writers can fit her", she seems slightly obnoxious, and there really isn't a point to her being there. However, when she makes a big appearence that DOES effect something, she is good.
And I'm not saying that every episode should be about Goo. I just think that she should either have a big enough appearence that it does something, or she shouldn't be in at all.
In my opinion.
-Marty 8-)
Kzinistzerg
08-16-2006, 12:02 PM
I understand, that's why I put 'relevant' in there. It has to be a part of the storyline or usually it dosn't add much if anything to the character or episode.
lucyrocks73
08-16-2006, 12:14 PM
(*rereads*)
Oops. That's the second time this week someone has posted something that I missed, and I got the info wrong...
Sorry!!!
I know I said this on the old board, but does anyone ever wonder if there are any dark characteristics to Goo???
-Marty 8-)
Kzinistzerg
08-16-2006, 12:20 PM
I dunno. See, Goo is the type of happy person that really dosn't have much to her, from what I've seen, but she does have some underlying motiviations. She's defintely(sp?) fixated on the idea of getting friends adopted. But darker parts? I don't think so... Any trouble she causes is very likely to be unintentional or just done without thinking, kind-of like Bloo in that respect.
TraverseTown
08-16-2006, 12:28 PM
And it doesn't see, like there are any new episodes MAINLY based around Goo coming up this season.
ch3353-h4xx0rrrr
08-16-2006, 01:46 PM
This is *one* episode coming up focusing around Goo.
It's called "Make-Believe it or Not", and Goo accidently creates the villains from a video games. =O But I think it promises to be a good'un.
As for Goo's "dark" side, meaning of course what's inside of her that makes her a 3-dimensional character, I wonder about it as well. She has some insecurities, but those seem to be cleared up in her first appearance. I'm hoping we'll see some sort of clue as to aspirations, some sort of problem going on, or anything showing her full character in her future appearances.
lucyrocks73
08-16-2006, 05:49 PM
This is *one* episode coming up focusing around Goo.
It's called "Make-Believe it or Not", and Goo accidently creates the villains from a video games. =O But I think it promises to be a good'un.
As for Goo's "dark" side, meaning of course what's inside of her that makes her a 3-dimensional character, I wonder about it as well. She has some insecurities, but those seem to be cleared up in her first appearance. I'm hoping we'll see some sort of clue as to aspirations, some sort of problem going on, or anything showing her full character in her future appearances.
I agree...
In "Make Believe it or Not", we'll apparently get to see her nightmares... We'll get to see what she's afraid of, in other words (although, we already sort of know about the video game thing)...
Of course, I could be wrong- I was TOTALLY wrong about the way "I Only Have Surprise For You" turned out.
I always ponder these things... I have a writer's mind, although they hardly ever get to be put on paper...
-Marty 8-)
One Radical Dude
08-16-2006, 08:43 PM
I'm indifferent on Goo. It's tough to follow the stuff she says, and at times, she can be pretty annoying. At the same time, however, she may help this series grow some more. Know what I mean? The only appearance of Goo I didn't like was from "Neighbor Pains." I think Grey DeLisle does a great job to perform a character as wacky as Goo.
She may be "overused" as some say, but she's pretty much here to stay for a while.
Kzinistzerg
08-17-2006, 02:10 PM
Does anyone know how tall Goo is?
lucyrocks73
08-18-2006, 10:38 AM
No, but I wonder if she's really that tall or if her boots just make her taller (I'm 4'11, and I made myself A LOT taller for the school play last year by wearing cowboy boots. I actually hit 5'3...).
Is she really tall, or is Mac just short? I'm guessing the former, because anytime we see kids they are usually about Mac's height.
-Marty 8-)
Kzinistzerg
08-18-2006, 11:26 AM
It's just that I dunno if she's older or something...
Hey, i'm 4'11 too!
kageri
08-18-2006, 12:52 PM
The thing I don't like about Goo is that I don't think she does have more to her. She's just a hyper kid whose insecurities have never been mentioned since Go Goo Go. She seems pretty one-dimensional to me.
BlooCheese
08-18-2006, 02:32 PM
I'm sorry, but she talks too fast and too much.
Cassini90125
08-18-2006, 04:06 PM
I'm sorry, but she talks too fast and too much.
Agreed, but unfortunately that's the way she is. :P
Kzinistzerg
08-18-2006, 04:18 PM
I dunno, it's one of her specific qualities... I never have any trouble understanding what she says, though.
She was annoying the first time I saw her and now they're making her into a main character. Unlike Cheese, she never grew on me. To me she's just annoying.
BlooCheese
08-18-2006, 05:46 PM
She was annoying the first time I saw her and now they're making her into a main character. Unlike Cheese, she never grew on me. To me she's just annoying.
Yup. I feel the same. I don't hate her. I'm just not fond of her. If she makes an appearance in a show, good for her. If not, that's fine, too. (And good for me.)
vannielou
08-18-2006, 09:37 PM
i think goo is taller because when I was her age (around what, like 8...???) I was taller than a lot of boys my age, and yes mac is short, they make many jokes/insults especially bloo
Kzinistzerg
08-19-2006, 10:55 AM
Really? he is? I was that height when I was in like... fifth grade... He's 3'6, right? that's what the coco card said, I think.
One Radical Dude
08-19-2006, 12:27 PM
I would say that she's at least 4' tall.
lucyrocks73
08-22-2006, 05:32 AM
Hey, i'm 4'11 too!
SHORT PEOPLE OF THE WORLD, UNITE!!! My squad leader in band last week pointed out that I'm a legal midget (*sighs*).
Now, I think Goo could have more than the annoying side we usually see... if the writers would attempt to see it that way, and not just stick her in the most willy nilly role they could find.
There's no point in having her just for the sake of having her, which is what I think is happening.
Ditto for Cheese, who gets on my nerves, as much as I love him.
-Marty 8-)
LaBlooGirl
08-22-2006, 11:44 AM
Goo is great, far better then Cheese...they just need to make sure they don't overdo it, and all will be fine. In other words, I like her but I don't want her to appear in every other episode. Let's stick to the stars when it comes to plots.
I think Goo's character design is cool and all, but I think she's way too overused! I find her annoying. When Mac told her off in Go Goo Go, I was like, "She STFU for once! Yaaaaaay!".
BlooCheese
08-24-2006, 01:58 PM
When she was crying at the end of Go Goo Go, I thought, "Your salty tears taste oh so sweet to me."
...Please don't hate me...
lucyrocks73
08-25-2006, 05:54 AM
Ahhhhh... and I see we are split. Well, not everyone HAS to love the same character (people think I'm weird all the time because I'm not a Wilt fangirl)...
And that is the beauty of diversity.
But let us not turn this into a heated "Goo rocks! Goo sucks! Goo rocks! Goo sucks!" discussion.
And I think I'm biased.
Any Mac/Goo shippers here?
(*sees evil glares and then cowers to the dark corner of the forum*)
-Marty :-D
kageri
08-25-2006, 06:50 AM
When she was crying at the end of Go Goo Go, I thought, "Your salty tears taste oh so sweet to me."
...Please don't hate me...
Tears of unfathomable sadness! Oh, yummy!
Okay, just kidding but I kind of thought the same thing. It made me love Mac even more, both because he snapped and because he apologized... although a tiny part of me wishes he hadn't apologized...
BlooCheese
08-25-2006, 10:55 AM
Tears of unfathomable sadness! Oh, yummy!
Okay, just kidding but I kind of thought the same thing. It made me love Mac even more, both because he snapped and because he apologized... although a tiny part of me wishes he hadn't apologized...
A large part of me wishes he hadn't apologized. :blooevil:
But then again, that would make Mac seem mean, so nevermind.
Chaos Wielder
08-26-2006, 02:05 PM
SHORT PEOPLE OF THE WORLD, UNITE!!! My squad leader in band last week pointed out that I'm a legal midget (*sighs*).
Now, I think Goo could have more than the annoying side we usually see... if the writers would attempt to see it that way, and not just stick her in the most willy nilly role they could find.
There's no point in having her just for the sake of having her, which is what I think is happening.
Ditto for Cheese, who gets on my nerves, as much as I love him.
-Marty 8-)
I totally agree with you. I think Goo has the potential of being a very deep character, but ONLY if the writers would attempt to see that. She's very colorful, creative, fun, outgoing, and helpful, but also a bit on the lonely side sometimes. If the writers would just look into those personality aspects of her character, they could end up getting something good. If they just keep throwing her into each episode with little reason and without building up her depth, then we have a one-dimensional character, sort of like we've got now.
Now, as some others have said, we need to keep the Goo sucks/Goo's awesome stuff out of the thread and try to look at her character in a more neutral way. For example, yes I do like Goo and I know that some others do as well, but I also don't have a problem with pointing out her flaws. I also know that some of you don't like her and that her constant chattering can get annoying (I'll admit, it can get to me at times too! XD) but just try to look past that and see her for her good qualities as well because she DOES have some, believe it or not. After all, the ones that do like her (including myself) were able to point out her flaws. Just try to think of her pluses as well as her minuses and you might not hate her as much. ;) But that's just me. So instead of just saying "Goo sucks" or "Goo rocks", try to look at her character for who she is in a neutral way; if you point out her strengths and her weaknesses, then who knows, maybe the writers will see what we're talking about and try to re-develop her character to where she becomes better and easier to relate to.
Ah, Cheese...as much as I love him, his constant screaming in "The Big Cheese" got a bit grating at times. XP
Cassini90125
08-26-2006, 02:09 PM
Ah, Cheese...as much as I love him, his constant screaming in "The Big Cheese" got a bit grating at times. XP
Grated Cheese? ;D ;D
Sorry, I had to say it. 8D
Chaos Wielder
08-26-2006, 02:16 PM
Grated Cheese? ;D ;D
Sorry, I had to say it. 8D
:o 8D Hehehe, nice one. ;)
BlooCheese
08-26-2006, 08:38 PM
Now, as some others have said, we need to keep the Goo sucks/Goo's awesome stuff out of the thread and try to look at her character in a more neutral way. For example, yes I do like Goo and I know that some others do as well, but I also don't have a problem with pointing out her flaws. I also know that some of you don't like her and that her constant chattering can get annoying (I'll admit, it can get to me at times too! XD) but just try to look past that and see her for her good qualities as well because she DOES have some, believe it or not. After all, the ones that do like her (including myself) were able to point out her flaws. Just try to think of her pluses as well as her minuses and you might not hate her as much. ;) But that's just me. So instead of just saying "Goo sucks" or "Goo rocks", try to look at her character for who she is in a neutral way; if you point out her strengths and her weaknesses, then who knows, maybe the writers will see what we're talking about and try to re-develop her character to where she becomes better and easier to relate to.
I think one reason I can't just look at Goo neutrally is that she sort of ruined Foster's in Go Goo Go, created hundreds of IFs, forced the gang to sleep in the bus, and almost ended Mac's visits to Foster's forever. I don't know why, but I can't let it go. I think if I hadn't seen Go Goo Go, I wouldn't think of her as The Terror in Rainbow Form whenever I saw her. You see, I saw Infernal Slumber before Go Goo Go, and at that point in time, I just thought she was a nice little kid, maybe a bit crazy, but nice nevertheless. But after seeing Go Goo Go, my perspective of her was never quite the same. Maybe it'll change one day. Who knows? I do know that she has some good qualities and that if I forgot about what she did in Go Goo Go, I think I would come to like her and enjoy her existence, but as for now, things are looking down. Maybe you can help change that.
Sims Katie
08-27-2006, 09:33 AM
I think one reason I can't just look at Goo neutrally is that she sort of ruined Foster's in Go Goo Go, created hundreds of IFs, forced the gang to sleep in the bus, and almost ended Mac's visits to Foster's forever. I don't know why, but I can't let it go. I think if I hadn't seen Go Goo Go, I wouldn't think of her as The Terror in Rainbow Form whenever I saw her.But didn't she redeem herself? She found and continues to find homes, good homes, for all the friends she created. She reworked the entire adoption process so each friend is kept track of (as Frankie said, before that adoption days were such a mess they never knew how many friends were adopted out or "just plain lost". That's pretty bad)
Sure she's annoying and talks too fast, but she's also really smart. And she's really put an effort into taking care of her creations, with great results.
BlooCheese
08-27-2006, 12:04 PM
Okay. I can give her credit for that. But she still could have kept her own creations rather than letting other people adopt them.
Kzinistzerg
08-27-2006, 01:10 PM
what, all four hundred of them?
Master Knight DH
08-27-2006, 06:49 PM
You mean 751. Not 400. But yeah, your point stands anyway. Befriending isn't an issue with her any longer, particularly since she gets along more with Coco.
lucyrocks73
08-28-2006, 05:04 AM
And Mac doesn't seem to HATE her (much like my best friend Brandon relating to moi), but he has a low tolerance for her craziness sometimes.
So she's got friends...
...and loyal fans such as myself.
-Marty 8-)
Dude13
08-28-2006, 08:18 AM
At the Catholic high school I went to, service to others was stressed heavily, and every year there were different service requirements. This past year, my senior year, it turned out that our specific requirement was that we had to choose a particular agency to work at for at least one day a week throughout the entire school year, and I personally chose to work in an after-school program.
I know this seems like a bit of aimless rambling on my part, but my point is basically one of the reasons I like Goo is because she reminds me so much of so many of the third-graders that I had the joy of working with, all of them so chatty, bubbly, and just loaded with more spunk than one would think possible to find in a mere eight or nine-year-old. But of course, it wasn't all fun and games, as they of course got into far more than their fair share of mischief.
Now I'm gonna stop before I start becoming too nostalgic on the subject.
BlooCheese
08-28-2006, 12:08 PM
what, all four hundred of them?
Okay. Maybe not. But she wouldn't have had to go and let other people adopt them if she hadn't created them in the first place. Mac kept telling her to stop, but she wouldn't.
Maybe that's another reason why I don't like her very much at all. She has (had?) little self-control.
And what Dude13 said about the happy, bubbly children full of spunk reminds me of Goo. And I don't like little kids very much, and since Goo seems quite immature to me, that could be another reason why I don't like her.
Voxxyn
08-28-2006, 02:01 PM
Aaaaaaaaand, unfortunately, "Go Goo Go" failed to win the Emmy for Best Outstanding Program. Personally, I'm not as upset about Foster's being shafted as I am with the Simpsons winning. AGAIN.
Cassini90125
08-28-2006, 02:19 PM
On the bright side, Kiefer Sutherland and 24 finally got a richly deserved and long overdue win. ;D
BlooCheese
08-28-2006, 02:23 PM
Aaaaaaaaand, unfortunately, "Go Goo Go" failed to win the Emmy for Best Outstanding Program. Personally, I'm not as upset about Foster's being shafted as I am with the Simpsons winning. AGAIN.
Go Goo Go isn't one of my favorite episodes, but that's too bad it didn't win. They just don't know a good (better?) cartoon when they see it. :P
Sims Katie
08-28-2006, 02:31 PM
Aaaaaaaaand, unfortunately, "Go Goo Go" failed to win the Emmy for Best Outstanding Program. Personally, I'm not as upset about Foster's being shafted as I am with the Simpsons winning. AGAIN.
It DID win for character design, though :D
Nathander
09-02-2006, 08:26 AM
Ahhhhh... and I see we are split. Well, not everyone HAS to love the same character (people think I'm weird all the time because I'm not a Wilt fangirl)...
And that is the beauty of diversity.
But let us not turn this into a heated "Goo rocks! Goo sucks! Goo rocks! Goo sucks!" discussion.
And I think I'm biased.
Any Mac/Goo shippers here?
(*sees evil glares and then cowers to the dark corner of the forum*)
-Marty :-D
*Raises hand* Mac/Goo shipper right here, but that's besides the point.
In all honesty, I do sincerely like Goo, but I think........well, I think the writers are over using her. While I think she's a great character, I also think she was always meant to be a minor character to be used from time to time, instead of playing a major part in the series. So while I like her, I'm also kind of hoping they give her a break after "Make Believe it or Not" for awhile.
Mr. Marshmallow
09-07-2006, 02:59 PM
In all honesty, I like Goo but simply in idea, the acutal character can be annoying sometimes and while she is an original and unique addition to the cast, they kinda make her prescence too "over powering" if you know what I mean.
The Foster's creators said they always try to use her when they can, they feel she's a popular character that has alot of potential, much like Cheese. But I think Cheese is on more simply because everything he says, thinks, or does is totally random.
Goo and Mac do NOT belong together, I'm sorry but I can't see it in the faintest. Goo is too weird, wild, and FAR too crazy for someone as stable and easy going as Mac. Yes, Mac has gotten wild and wacky sometimes but for the most part, he's a tame and calm kid.
The only reason that relationship was hinted at in "Go Goo Go" was so Frankie and the others could use the tie as a means of forcing Goo away, which would pressure Mac into getting rid of her and thus creating the conflict. Plus it showed us that Goo is a lonely person and more about her personality.
But despite the fact Mac comforted her and made her feel better in the end, I would say there relationship will never evolve past friendship.
lucyrocks73
09-21-2006, 05:45 PM
Hey, opposites attract. And I don't think Goo could calm down at ALL if it wasn't for Mac (crying scene at the end of "Go Goo Go"). Maybe he'd like having her around after a while...
Once again, I'm biased.
And I just think they are cute.
Hey, I never said anyone HAD to have the same opinions I did. I LOVE hearing other people's opinions.
-Marty 8-)
Dude13
09-21-2006, 06:54 PM
Yeah, I too possess a bit of a natural bias, and thus I cast my vote as a "yes" for those two being a possible couple.
Marty does actually have a valid point - "opposities attract" is no mere cliche (sorry, don't know how to add the accent mark over the "e" on my MacBook.) Anyway, what I've experienced at least shows me that there's truth in that statement - my older brother has had a girlfriend since junior year in high school, their relationship lasted all throughout college (well, probably because their colleges were both in Boston) and even after graduating, they're still together. And believe me, it's not easy to spot similarities in their personality, for whereas she's a bit shy and introverted, my older brother is as loud and outgoing as humanly possible.
Then again, that's from what I've dealt with personally.
But yet again, I'm also severely biased on the subject, so maybe I shouldn't be taken seriously, as I can't help but view them as an adorable pair.
Ack, and this is coming out of the words of a nineteen year old boy of all people....
Invader Bloo
10-03-2006, 05:20 PM
Goo + Mac = Never
I agree with Marshmallow, it wouldn't work out. Goo isn't as funny as Cheese, so they should'nt have her as much. Every couple of episodes maybe.
Cassini90125
10-03-2006, 05:29 PM
Once or twice per season is all I think I can stomach at this point. :P
Dude13
10-03-2006, 07:05 PM
Yikes! It seems we're a bit polarized upon the subject, to say the very least. Methinks maybe it's because many feel that it seems like they're pushing to have her far too much on the show.
I honestly don't have a problem with it, but as can be seen, we're not all going to be seeing eye-to-eye on the subject.
But to be blunt, I prefer her much more than Cheese - I think either he got a bit far too over-hyped for my tastes, but then again, it's probably more or less because I work at a day camp in the summer, where the kids do nothing but chant "I like cereal" and "I like chocolate milk" over and over, so that left me a bit bitter on t he subject.
Cassini90125
10-03-2006, 07:10 PM
I work at a day camp in the summer, where the kids do nothing but chant "I like cereal" and "I like chocolate milk" over and over, so that left me a bit bitter on the subject.
I don't blame you, that could get on anybody's nerves after awhile. :P
BlooCheese
10-03-2006, 07:16 PM
Oh good. I'm not the only one who wishes she'd just...go away for a little while.
Cassini90125
10-03-2006, 07:22 PM
You're not going to like "Make-Believe It Or Not", then. I'm not really looking forward to that one, either. :P
Mr. Marshmallow
10-03-2006, 08:09 PM
I disgaree and consider Cheese a much better flavour of humor to swallow then Goo. Goo to me was a one trick poney, her episode and her personality worked out her problem all in one 30 minute show and it could have easily just stayed there and just left it at that.
Cheese to me is like the Imaginary friend version of "Family Guy", a stupid, weird ass character that spouts random things with nothing but insanity, strange sense of a humor and high pressured sugar foods fueling his warped little mind. Much like Peter Griffin :D.
But Goo to me is becoming more annoying then apart of the "Foster's crew". She doesn't really bring anything to the table other then fast talking, and a what seems to be a common theme in all the episodes she's involved in: a very BOSSY nature.
She's bullied Herriman, Frankie, Mac, Eduardo, and just about anyone else she's talked to with her wacko attitude. Even in "Big Cheese" when Frankie asks for her help to get the code, you can get a sense of arrogance from her tone.
I think she could be a much more likeable and very acceptable character if they gave her more depth then just the go-go mouth syndrome 24/7. Cheese is a dumb ass, that's his gimmick and that's not an insult btw, it's literally what he is there to do, be stupid.
Other then "Go Goo Go" we haven't seen any real depth to Goo's character in any of her current appearances. I think she's just becoming more 3rd wheel and less funny. The same thing might happen to Cheese if they overuse him, but odds are I'll stop laughing at Goo before I stop laughing at Cheese.
BlooCheese
10-03-2006, 08:20 PM
I agree with Mr. Marshmallow.
You're not going to like "Make-Believe It Or Not", then. I'm not really looking forward to that one, either. :P
Hmmm...I really wouldn't mind watching "Make-Believe It Or Not" even if it does feature Goo because I don't have cable, so I never have a chance to watch Foster's. Even watching really old episodes or re-runs that I've seen fifty times is worth while for me. But I totally get your drift.
billytheskink
10-03-2006, 08:58 PM
Interesting take on Goo vs. Cheese, Mr. M. Very interesting indeed. Not sure I agree or disagree, so I'll be pondering for a while...
lucyrocks73
10-04-2006, 03:48 AM
I disgaree and consider Cheese a much better flavour of humor to swallow then Goo. Goo to me was a one trick poney, her episode and her personality worked out her problem all in one 30 minute show and it could have easily just stayed there and just left it at that.
Cheese to me is like the Imaginary friend version of "Family Guy", a stupid, weird ass character that spouts random things with nothing but insanity, strange sense of a humor and high pressured sugar foods fueling his warped little mind. Much like Peter Griffin :D.
But Goo to me is becoming more annoying then apart of the "Foster's crew". She doesn't really bring anything to the table other then fast talking, and a what seems to be a common theme in all the episodes she's involved in: a very BOSSY nature.
She's bullied Herriman, Frankie, Mac, Eduardo, and just about anyone else she's talked to with her wacko attitude. Even in "Big Cheese" when Frankie asks for her help to get the code, you can get a sense of arrogance from her tone.
I think she could be a much more likeable and very acceptable character if they gave her more depth then just the go-go mouth syndrome 24/7. Cheese is a dumb ass, that's his gimmick and that's not an insult btw, it's literally what he is there to do, be stupid.
Other then "Go Goo Go" we haven't seen any real depth to Goo's character in any of her current appearances. I think she's just becoming more 3rd wheel and less funny. The same thing might happen to Cheese if they overuse him, but odds are I'll stop laughing at Goo before I stop laughing at Cheese.
I agree in a way- but I've never liked Goo because she's funny, by any means.
Cheese annoys the crap out of me... he just does. It doesn't mean I hate him, but he does.
I'll agree that her last few perfromances hace been slightly crappy and annoying... But maybe in future episodes (maybe the upcoming one with the video game nightmares) she'll have more depth, and become a more liked character.
I think Mac/Goo is awesome (if Goo gets more depth), but everyone has their own opinion, and I'm okay with that...
-Marty 8-)
Dude13
10-04-2006, 04:20 AM
Yikes, looks like we're seeing things from completely opposite ends of the spectrum here.
In my own point of view, I seem to see Cheese as a bit of a one-track character in the manner that his only major gimic is that he wanders about and spouts random phrases, much in the way that Goo can be seen as a bit one-dimensional through just talking fast.
But like I said, I'm very much on the other side of these two-choices, to me there's just not that much for Cheese except "Do it again, do it again" and "I like chocolate milk." But then again, as stated before, my experience as a day camp counselor had a very strong role in shaping this particular viewpoint.
Simply put, I just find Goo to be a very upbeat, extremely unique character who's personality adds a bit of diversity whenever she appears within the show.
Unfortunately, it seems people or either all-or-nothing on the subject with little middle ground in between - she's either a welcome addition or flat-out disliked, and thus all of us with the opoosing viewpoints simply can't see eye-to-eye with anything on the subject.
Any moderates out there on the subject? That'd make for some great input here.
Voxxyn
10-04-2006, 08:14 AM
Originally, I loved Goo. Her extremely hyper attitude provided some great comedy for her debut episode; and as somebody who is a social outcast, I found the ending to be genuinely touching. Her appearance in "The Big Picture" was a nice surprise, and it seemed like a teaser for what I thought would be her next big role in "Make-Believe It Or Not".
Unfortunately, that wasn't her case. And unfortunately, each appearance since has kinda only erased the reasons I liked her in the first place. She went from a loveable outcast I could somewhat relate with to a depressingly accurate representation of the bullies that tormented me in "Neighbor Pains". And then there's how she's become a bit of a blatant deus-ex machina "solve the problem at the end" character, which is a bit of a slap in the face to the entire main cast.
I'm kinda mixed about "Make-Believe It Or Not". I'm a huge videogame fanatic, and I'm looking forward to the references and parodies they're planning to make... but I'm also fearing that it'll have Goo hogging the spotlight and making the characters we've known and loved from the beginning look like fools.
So I guess I'm a moderate?
taranchula
10-04-2006, 08:42 AM
I guess you can say I am bit of a moderate myself, Because I never thought Goo was a horrible character by any stretch of the imagination, but on the other hand I never thought she was the greatest thing since sliced bread either.
The one thing I really like about the character is the manic energy that Grey Delislie brings to the role, I mean after all she is given carte blanch to stand in front of a microphone and basically go crazy, who wouldn't want an opportunity to do that?
And Truthfully I never thought her multiple appearances this season to be a hindrance to any of the episodes, as she did get some funny lines and our favorite characters still got plenty of face time as well, and I must be the only person on the board who wasn't offended in the least by her behavior in Neighbor Pains, just because I have been in similar situations many times before, being forced to work with people who had the exact same mentality as Goo did. So to me it was one of those "it's funny because it's true" deals.
As for character development I am sure we are going to see a lot of it in the coming seasons, there is still IMHO a lot of situations they can come up in order to see multiple sides of Goo's character.
Dude13
10-04-2006, 10:31 AM
and I must be the only person on the board who wasn't offended in the least by her behavior in Neighbor Pains, just because I have been in similar situations many times before, being forced to work with people who had the exact same mentality as Goo did. So to me it was one of those "it's funny because it's true" deals.
I actually wasn't really bothered by her in Neighbor Pains either, to be honest. True, I was surprised to see her acting so unexpectedly bossy to all the others, but I didn't really view it is bullying. The fact that she was participating in Adopt-a-Thought-Saturday in the first place meant to me that she began with the genuine intention to help out at Foter's, but as can be seen, she clearly became extremely caught up in her role and was quite over-the-top with her performance. Did she go overboard? Undoubtedly yes, but I her original intentions I think had to be good.
Even though a cartoon character, she is at the same time only human, and can have flaws (as Frankie with her nasty cookie addiction and Mac with his sugar troubles). But then again, Goo herself is already over-the-top to begin with, so I think that's why it gets offensive to some when she goes any further.
lucyrocks73
10-04-2006, 12:23 PM
The sad thing is, although I could relate to her before as the "outcast type", I related to her just as much when she was bossy.
Because she's a clone of me at that age- even with the bossiness. I was REALLY bossy (it seems like I've outgrown MOST of that, although it's still there).
You see, sometimes when someone is an outcast for a while, the moment someone listens to what they have to say, it becomes addicting. That's the way I see Goo- she didn't have friends for a large period of time, so now that she has Mac (and I guess Coco- what's up with their weird friendship?) to pay attention to her, she kind of craves everyone listening to her.
Am I making any sense? Probably not, knowing me...
"Neighbor Pains," though it wasn't my favorite appearence of Goo, made me laugh because I could remember the bossy aspect of my personality.
I'm just glad to see some moderates.
I'm not obsessed. I'm not going to dress up as her for Halloween. I just like the fact that I can relate.
Oh, and the fact that I'm a compulsive talker is there, too.
-Marty 8-)
Dude13
10-04-2006, 12:40 PM
Same here, no obsession, it was just that for a little bit it looked like everyoen was either straight-out pro or anti-Goo, making me a member of the former group.
And also, no need to apolgize, Marty, I really liked the point you made, and that you had experience to back yourself up on it.
But foremost, I was very glad and interested to see the moderate viewpoints - and to know that there people who aren't either-or on the subject, period.
kageri
10-04-2006, 03:46 PM
The problem with Goo, I think, is that the thing that made her interesting (although I don't necessarily think it made her dynamic) -- that she's really a lonely girl who creates IFs because she doesn't have human friends -- was more or less completely solved in the first episode she was in and has never been spoken of again. So now she's back to being a kid who talks too much, and not much else.
Also that they put her in whenever they can now, along with Cheese, and seeing even one of them constantly can get hard to stomach after a while.
BlooCheese
10-04-2006, 04:42 PM
"Hard to stomach" is a good phrase.
We're all lactose intolerant, so we can't handle Cheese.
We should eat things that are edible, so we shouldn't swallow Goo.
That was lame.
lucyrocks73
10-04-2006, 04:53 PM
The problem with Goo, I think, is that the thing that made her interesting (although I don't necessarily think it made her dynamic) -- that she's really a lonely girl who creates IFs because she doesn't have human friends -- was more or less completely solved in the first episode she was in and has never been spoken of again. So now she's back to being a kid who talks too much, and not much else.
Also that they put her in whenever they can now, along with Cheese, and seeing even one of them constantly can get hard to stomach after a while.
The lactose intolerent thing cracked me up.
Well, I think what would REALLY get Goo going would be this- what would Goo's reaction be if Mac suddenly (for some reason or another) used against her the fact that she had no real friends before him?? We already know from "Go Goo Go" that what Mac says can throw Goo into a tizzy.
I don't know; just an idea to bring the "lonely girl" aspect of her character back.
-Marty 8-)
BlooCheese
10-04-2006, 04:57 PM
Goo's former "I'm all by myself and hated by society" characteristic was what made her most unique, I think. And then she got friends and just became some really wierd kid who talks way too fast.
Personally, I find the "I have no friends" story to be cliched and not have enough substance to carry a story arc for more than one episode...so I'm kind of glad they haven't gotten her back to angsting. I feel that her character was most effective in Bus the Two of Us. She didn't take up too much time with her jabber, she didn't wrestle with any other characters for the spotlight. She provided a good gag (in the form of Boy of Spotted-Tongue and Japanese Speakin' Bloo) and then she left without too much of splash. She was far more subtle in that episode than in any other I've seen her in. If they can manage to do that more often, I'd be able to tolerate her fine.
Kzinistzerg
10-06-2006, 05:02 PM
Yeah, that was a good little cameo. She and Cheese aren't characters you can have anything revolving around, there just isn't any depth! They work very well i nthe backgrounds, like Cheese in The Big PIcture was.
bigdog
10-11-2006, 05:20 AM
Goo is my favorite because she is so much like me. The one thing that is different is that I can't even think as fast as Goo talks.
(Oh, and I'm a guy.)
Goo and I are both teased because of what other people believe a girl and a guy should be. They aren't open to the 'bright' differences that make us unique.
But they are perfectly fine with other kinds of people.
I have also been accused of being 'fake.' But I'm truly happy and intensely passionate about almost everything I do.
Goo is not 1 demensional at all. She is what your imagination makes her. Not what Craig McCracken uses her for.
Cheers to Goo! For standing up and proclaiming 'I'm a happy person. In a world that is full of sad and kind of sad people.'
koosie
10-11-2006, 09:04 AM
Goo is my favorite because she is so much like me. The one thing that is different is that I can't even think as fast as Goo talks.
(Oh, and I'm a guy.)
Goo and I are both teased because of what other people believe a girl and a guy should be. They aren't open to the 'bright' differences that make us unique.
But they are perfectly fine with other kinds of people.
I have also been accused of being 'fake.' But I'm truly happy and intensely passionate about almost everything I do.
Goo is not 1 demensional at all. She is what your imagination makes her. Not what Craig McCracken uses her for.
Cheers to Goo! For standing up and proclaiming 'I'm a happy person. In a world that is full of sad and kind of sad people.'
I've not seen enough episodes with Goo in but I endorse everything you say. Personally I find my own brain goes up and down between Goo at the top and Marvin the paranoid android at the bottom. It's fun at the top but annoying having to deal with all the silliness it creates when you start coming down again. Theres nothing fake about it, just neurochemistry I suppose.
You and Goo are cool. Not quite sure what Craig McCracken uses her for, though.
lucyrocks73
10-14-2006, 09:22 AM
Goo is not 1 demensional at all. She is what your imagination makes her. Not what Craig McCracken uses her for.
Cheers to Goo! For standing up and proclaiming 'I'm a happy person. In a world that is full of sad and kind of sad people.'
Amen to that.
Thank you for explaining how she is what your imagination makes her. I mean, she is used for what Craig wants her for, but the reason she seems so one-demensional is because there is open room for imagination. It's in her personality, and it's how she seems.
Good for you.
-Marty :goo:
T-Rexotron
10-25-2006, 10:20 PM
I caertainly agree that Goo is NOT 1 Dimensional.
But she gets used in many episodes and with her formerly being a extra char,
it might look like she is being overused, but trough season four she deserved a spot at the list of main characters, but everyone is still used of her being a side character,or at least I am.
Maybe I'm not the right guy to tell you this, since i did not saw any episodes of season four, but i do think Craig could use Goo a little bit less...
Just a little bit :goo:
Voxxyn
10-31-2006, 03:11 AM
Goo is nowhere to be seen in "Bloo's the Boss", which will officially debut this Friday. "Make-Believe It Or Not" is confirmed to be Goo's next major role. I don't know about "Emancipation Complication" or "Good Wilt Hunting", but I wouldn't be surprised if she makes an appearance in the latter, as it's a special and might have special appearances by notable characters outside the main ones(I know Goo is extremely close to becoming a main character herself due to her many recent appearances, but still...).
I really like Goo myself--but if she shows up in "EC" and proceeds to rescue the house from Lil' Lincoln's evil plot instead of Mac and Frankie, I won't be very happy.
taranchula
10-31-2006, 05:40 PM
Goo is nowhere to be seen in "Bloo's the Boss", which will officially debut this Friday. "Make-Believe It Or Not" is confirmed to be Goo's next major role. I don't know about "Emancipation Complication" or "Good Wilt Hunting", but I wouldn't be surprised if she makes an appearance in the latter, as it's a special and might have special appearances by notable characters outside the main ones(I know Goo is extremely close to becoming a main character herself due to her many recent appearances, but still...).
Goo's apperance in Good Wilt Hunting would make for an awesome visual gag,
if we see her show up at the Imaginary Friend/Creator reunion picnic literally surrounded by the hundred upon hundreds of the imaginary friends she created.
lucyrocks73
10-31-2006, 07:13 PM
Of course, that depends on how many are left- she's like an obessive Girl Scout cookie seller on speed if you ask me.
Well, it depends if the picnic is only for the friends currently living at Foster's, which I'm guessing it is.
But, hey- the movie didn't premiere yet.
-Marty :goo:
Nathander
11-02-2006, 07:55 PM
I really like Goo myself--but if she shows up in "EC" and proceeds to rescue the house from Lil' Lincoln's evil plot instead of Mac and Frankie, I won't be very happy.
I agree wholeheartedly. I adore Goo, but there needs to be a limit to her, and that's one of the things that really irked me at the end of "The Big Cheese". While I love Goo, there is no reason for her to ever eclipse the originals of the show. While I wouldn't mind seeing her in 4-5 episodes a season, the best number to monitor her at would probably be 2-3 (preferably 2) so she doesn't verge on annoying the people who dislike her too badly and they start losing viewers.
bigdog
11-02-2006, 08:01 PM
Why is it a problem or Goo to have "shining moments?" It seems to me, if she had more "shining moments," people would like her more.
If she saved the day instead of just being bossy, people would be probably be more open to her.
BlooCheese
11-02-2006, 08:26 PM
If she saved the day instead of just being bossy, people would be probably be more open to her.
True, true. I would like her better if she wasn't so bossy all the time, but then again, take bossy out of Goo and what you have left isn't really Goo.
Nathander
11-02-2006, 10:07 PM
Why is it a problem or Goo to have "shining moments?" It seems to me, if she had more "shining moments," people would like her more.
If she saved the day instead of just being bossy, people would be probably be more open to her.
Oh, I'm not saying she shouldn't have shining moments, but if you just let her be a deus ex machina like she was in "The Big Cheese", you're going to end up offending your long time viewers no matter HOW MUCH they like Goo if they're fans of her. I'd like to see Goo have a shining moment now and then, but I'd also like it to happen logically and not just because "Hey, here I am! We need to do THIS!" with no rhyme or reason.
bigdog
11-03-2006, 05:32 AM
Okay cool, I understand now.
There is chemistry between her and the Foster's regulars. They just haven't shown much of it. The best example of it (in my opinion) is "Infernal Slumber."
Voxxyn
11-03-2006, 07:19 AM
It's not that I don't want Goo to have shining moments. It's that her recent appearances have overshadowed and even somewhat disrespected the characters that have been around since the beginning.
I'm never going to understand why Louise couldn't have been used instead of Goo at the end of "The Big Cheese"; I mean, she CREATED Cheese in the first place. And as much as I love Japanese Bloo, I REALLY don't like how Goo is powerful enough to create copies of the other characters(even if not entirely perfect) when they're missing like in "Bus the Two of Us".
About Goo being bossy: I do like that they've added a less-savory side to her personality. But I hate how she's repeatedly tormented Eduardo. I have no problem if she's being bossy to Frankie or Wilt, since these two are very mature and strong people who have put up with infinitely worse. But Eduardo is too innocent and vulnerable for such harassment to be considered funny by anyone outside of Ed-haters.
And about Goo saving the day: if there's a SEPARATE episode in which she's the protagonist and must save the house from some kind of threat, that's cool with me. In fact, "Make-Believe It Or Not" seems like it will be exactly that--which will debut the week after "Emancipation Complication". THAT is why I'll be displeased if she takes the spotlight in "EC" as well; Mac and Frankie(which are touted as the protagonists by the CN.com summary) should be the stars in that episode.
bigdog
11-03-2006, 09:42 AM
In other words, you guys say that she should compliment the original characters instead of taking over and overshadowing them. I agree whole-heartedly.
Mr. Marshmallow
11-04-2006, 05:23 PM
The thing with Goo is they really toss around her ability to make imaginary friends too lightly. Mac and Terrance show that it takes time to really put into effort into making an imaginary friend, and that popping them out is just plain cheap.
Half assed imaginary friends get created on pure whims and that makes me kinda feel bad knowing they got pumped out of Goo simply because she can't keep her mind (or her mouth at times) shut. I too think Goo gets way too agressive with certain characters.
She has an annoying sense of arrogance and rudeness about her, for someone who's Mac's "friend", she sure doesn't act like one. "Big Cheese" showed her like she was some kind of super professional and that Frankie and Mac's attempts were a joke.
Even if she got the code out of Cheese, she bragged like she was so masterful before and didn't seem to care the house was getting smashed which was the whole POINT of getting the code to look good for the photo shoot.
The only reason Goo could read Cheese properly is because she's as scatter brained as he is.
bigdog
11-04-2006, 05:32 PM
I agree. But let me ask you this, is that annoying thing also in another character we love? Like Bloo? Go really cares. But like Bloo she gets so preoccupied with what she's currently doing that she throws other peoples feelings out the window.
Mr. Marshmallow
11-04-2006, 07:09 PM
But that's Bloo's nature. Goo was introduced as someone not nearly as bossy, rude, and ego based in her episode. Bloo is by nature this whiny, selfish, and at times, incredibly stupid character that has basically become his entire gimmick.
The thing with Goo is also that unlike Bloo, things seem to go her way or work out for her more so then Bloo. Bloo's schemes or plans usually end up biting him in the ass in the long run, the show MOSTLY has a sort of karma thing going.
But nothing EVER bad happens to Goo either. Mac, Bloo, Frankie, Mr. Herriman, Wilt, Eduardo, they have all had bad things happen to them and situations turn sour. But nothing phases or harms Goo with the exception of Mac's snap attack.
Other then his screaming fit at her, Goo remains free to do and act the way she wants with zero consequences.
Nathander
11-05-2006, 07:28 AM
But that's Bloo's nature. Goo was introduced as someone not nearly as bossy, rude, and ego based in her episode. Bloo is by nature this whiny, selfish, and at times, incredibly stupid character that has basically become his entire gimmick.
I agree whole-heartedly. However, if we're going to use the whole "she wasn't introduced as such" argument, Bloo also wasn't introduced as the character he would become. Granted, this is due more to a story fact than anything else (him still reeling from having been put into Foster's), but I'm just saying.
The thing with Goo is also that unlike Bloo, things seem to go her way or work out for her more so then Bloo. Bloo's schemes or plans usually end up biting him in the ass in the long run, the show MOSTLY has a sort of karma thing going.
But nothing EVER bad happens to Goo either. Mac, Bloo, Frankie, Mr. Herriman, Wilt, Eduardo, they have all had bad things happen to them and situations turn sour. But nothing phases or harms Goo with the exception of Mac's snap attack.
I'm expecting a partial turn-around of this in "Make Believe It or Not". Not guarenteeing it, but I am expecting one.
To be honest, Goo's current aggressive streak leaves me worried. While I still like the character, I have a hard time accepting such an about-face of her character from her first appearance. If anything, I hope they correct that.
BlooCheese
11-05-2006, 08:49 AM
The thing with Goo is they really toss around her ability to make imaginary friends too lightly. Mac and Terrance show that it takes time to really put into effort into making an imaginary friend, and that popping them out is just plain cheap.
Half assed imaginary friends get created on pure whims and that makes me kinda feel bad knowing they got pumped out of Goo simply because she can't keep her mind (or her mouth at times) shut. I too think Goo gets way too agressive with certain characters.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Goo created all those hundreds of imaginary friends, but she never even took the time to get to know them. She just kinda let them get adopted by a bunch of other people. And when she created the green friend, the purple friend, and the silver friend in The Big Picture and boy of spotted tongue and Japanese-speaking Bloo in Bus the Two of Us and nobody reproached her, (I know she was trying to be helpful) it makes me sad. Imaginary friends aren't just created for one-time uses and passed on to some other kid.
Chaos Wielder
11-05-2006, 01:06 PM
I agree whole-heartedly. However, if we're going to use the whole "she wasn't introduced as such" argument, Bloo also wasn't introduced as the character he would become. Granted, this is due more to a story fact than anything else (him still reeling from having been put into Foster's), but I'm just saying.
I'm expecting a partial turn-around of this in "Make Believe It or Not". Not guarenteeing it, but I am expecting one.
To be honest, Goo's current aggressive streak leaves me worried. While I still like the character, I have a hard time accepting such an about-face of her character from her first appearance. If anything, I hope they correct that.
Yeah, "Make Believe It or Not" may be the episode that does that, but I really don't know.
Goo's "new" aggressive and even somewhat braggy (I say braggy because when she says "leave it to the professionals" in "The Big Cheese" that kind of sounded a bit braggy and SLIGHTLY pompous to me, but that's just what I think) behavior is even bothering me a bit too. It's like she has a bipolar personality now! Personally, I still like her too, but like I said awhile back, I don't like how she was being overused because it was taking away from her character. Hopefully "MBIoN" will fix that, though. :)
You all that have mentioned the fact that Goo hasn't really taken time to get to know the friends she creates have a good point as well. I never really thought about that. In that episode she really DID just create friends then just turned around and sent them out for adoption without even getting to know them or anything. Heck, did she even name any of them because now that I think about it I don't even think she did that.
Nathander
11-05-2006, 08:47 PM
In that episode she really DID just create friends then just turned around and sent them out for adoption without even getting to know them or anything. Heck, did she even name any of them because now that I think about it I don't even think she did that.
You're half-right; she didn't get to know them on any intricate level, but she did at least on some basic one (primarily because she created them), as well as the fact that she at least named some of them, as she does say the name of one friend who she's recommending to that kid at the end. Not that she got to know her creations on any deep, intricate level; but then again, at the time she herself didn't seem to understand the concept of having an imaginary friend, or even real friendship for that matter, until near the end of that episode.
That being said, I find it fitting that, of the IFs, the one she seems to have really bonded with is Coco. Her mistreatment of Eduardo, however, really confuses the hell out of me. I wish the writers had given us SOME kind of explanation for this, especially with how impressed she initially seemed with him.
Kzinistzerg
11-06-2006, 03:59 PM
Shruple, I think it was. With the gravy.
Yeah, I really don't understand the eduardo thing either.
Chaos Wielder
11-06-2006, 05:00 PM
You're half-right; she didn't get to know them on any intricate level, but she did at least on some basic one (primarily because she created them), as well as the fact that she at least named some of them, as she does say the name of one friend who she's recommending to that kid at the end. Not that she got to know her creations on any deep, intricate level; but then again, at the time she herself didn't seem to understand the concept of having an imaginary friend, or even real friendship for that matter, until near the end of that episode.
That being said, I find it fitting that, of the IFs, the one she seems to have really bonded with is Coco. Her mistreatment of Eduardo, however, really confuses the hell out of me. I wish the writers had given us SOME kind of explanation for this, especially with how impressed she initially seemed with him.
Oh, so she DID name some of them. ;) Sorry, I couldn't exactly remember for sure whether or not she did. Guess that clears it up.
I'd also say that she really seems to have bonded with Coco the most out of the IFs at Foster's. I could actually see that coming, though, to be honest because the two of them have such similar personalities and seem to have similar interests as well. ;) I don't really like how she has mistreated Eduardo, either, honestly. I mean, what has he done to make her so hostile and bossy toward him? :-/
Nathander
11-06-2006, 06:44 PM
Again, the Eduardo thing confuses me to no end. The only real idea I have concerning it is the fact that Goo sees a bit of herself that she doesn't like (her crybaby side, which we have seen demonstrated at least once in "Go Goo Go"), and thus lashes out at Eduardo as a means to lash out against something about herself she dislikes.
Most likely, though, this is overanalyzation, and we'll never get any conformation as to why Goo dislikes Ed so badly.
lucyrocks73
11-06-2006, 07:00 PM
Er... well, I don't think we've ever seen her be nastier to Ed than anyone else in particular...
Or maybe I'm just missing something?
(*missed the 100th post mark in this thread by one*)
-Marty :goo:
Master Knight DH
11-07-2006, 10:28 AM
Again, the Eduardo thing confuses me to no end. The only real idea I have concerning it is the fact that Goo sees a bit of herself that she doesn't like (her crybaby side, which we have seen demonstrated at least once in "Go Goo Go"), and thus lashes out at Eduardo as a means to lash out against something about herself she dislikes.
Most likely, though, this is overanalyzation, and we'll never get any conformation as to why Goo dislikes Ed so badly.
Maybe because Eduardo is an idiot? I know sometimes people can piss me off just by being idiots. :(
Well, Goo's bossiness does bug me. But at least it has had Mr. Herriman mocked, Goo saying that the old way for AATS wasn't even a way before (going "blah blah" etc.).
Voxxyn
11-07-2006, 10:45 AM
Maybe because Eduardo is an idiot? I know sometimes people can piss me off just by being idiots. :(
I'm sorry, but that's just plain cruel and sad. I already ranted about this on the General Character Discussion thread, so here comes the shorthand version:
Ed is too kind, too gentle, too sweet, and is too innocent to honestly deserve any of that bashing crap. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHATSOVER FOR GOO TO TREAT HIM LIKE THAT. End of story.
Cassini90125
11-07-2006, 10:53 AM
Maybe because Eduardo is an idiot? I know sometimes people can piss me off just by being idiots.
Being childlike and innocent does not make someone an "idiot". :P
I'm sorry but I too have to say something here.
Eduardo is the epitome of innocent in this show. He doesn't hate, he doesn't think only for himself, he cares about everyone around him AND he's a true friend to all who need him. He does not deserve to be terrified of Goo, OR to be called an idiot by you, MasterKnight DH.
There's a huge difference between being an idiot and being innocent.
There are circumstances of course when Eduardo doesn't appear the brightest bulb in the group, but they never make him out to be stupid or treat him with any kind of malice. He still treats things, and acts, like everything is new to him at some degree. Plus the fact his fear overrides basically anything else he does is a major factor.
Goo has been mean to Eduardo. The first time she met him she complimented him sure, but then she unleashed that 'really scary' imaginary upon him which he definately didn't deserve. All the guy was doing was watching tv, next thing he knows he had nightmare fuel for a year. The second time was in Neighbour Pains; Goo was getting way too ahead of herself and being a bossy little girl and took out a lot of her frustration upon those around her. But especially at Eduardo, causing him to pretty much break down from her verbal assault on him. I'm sorry but that isn't fair either. Eduardo hardly knew what was going on himself, so how cuold he explain to her? The other instance I can think of is from Internal Slumber when Goo brings up the subjects of ghosts, and when Eduardo fearfully asked how someone would die; she brings up the point 'they might have chocked on a piece of popcorn!' and thus displayed how a person would look. Death seems to terrify Eduardo like practically everything else, but even MORE so since he was eating popcorn at the time. Luckily he didn't cry, or run off.
So does Eduardo deserve what Goo inflicts on him be it in good humor or out of malice? No. A million times no. Eduardo wouldn't hurt a fly.
Well. Maybe Terrence and an Extreme-o-saur but that's another story. Sorry about going on like this about Ed in the Goo thread but it's something that's been bothering ME since those things I listed happened to Eduardo via the hands of Goo.
LaBlooGirl
11-07-2006, 01:47 PM
I'm sorry but I too have to say something here.
Eduardo is the epitome of innocent in this show. He doesn't hate, he doesn't think only for himself, he cares about everyone around him AND he's a true friend to all who need him. He does not deserve to be terrified of Goo, OR to be called an idiot by you, MasterKnight DH.
There's a huge difference between being an idiot and being innocent.
There are circumstances of course when Eduardo doesn't appear the brightest bulb in the group, but they never make him out to be stupid or treat him with any kind of malice. He still treats things, and acts, like everything is new to him at some degree. Plus the fact his fear overrides basically anything else he does is a major factor.
Goo has been mean to Eduardo. The first time she met him she complimented him sure, but then she unleashed that 'really scary' imaginary upon him which he definately didn't deserve. All the guy was doing was watching tv, next thing he knows he had nightmare fuel for a year. The second time was in Neighbour Pains; Goo was getting way too ahead of herself and being a bossy little girl and took out a lot of her frustration upon those around her. But especially at Eduardo, causing him to pretty much break down from her verbal assault on him. I'm sorry but that isn't fair either. Eduardo hardly knew what was going on himself, so how cuold he explain to her? The other instance I can think of is from Internal Slumber when Goo brings up the subjects of ghosts, and when Eduardo fearfully asked how someone would die; she brings up the point 'they might have chocked on a piece of popcorn!' and thus displayed how a person would look. Death seems to terrify Eduardo like practically everything else, but even MORE so since he was eating popcorn at the time. Luckily he didn't cry, or run off.
So does Eduardo deserve what Goo inflicts on him be it in good humor or out of malice? No. A million times no. Eduardo wouldn't hurt a fly.
Well. Maybe Terrence and an Extreme-o-saur but that's another story. Sorry about going on like this about Ed in the Goo thread but it's something that's been bothering ME since those things I listed happened to Eduardo via the hands of Goo.
Well said. And perhaps Goo treats Ed that way because he's vulnerable. I remember having a real shocker in my own life when I had a discussion with my mechanic one day and I asked him why I keep attracting these older guys who are perverted or crazy, and he said to me, "I guess cause you look vulnerable." (Which scared me, not that he intended anything by saying that.) So if Goo was made to feel "little" by being teased or whatever, she basically takes her own social problems out on Ed, who is the most vulnerable in the group, because he's so scared of everything and is also gullible. Basically, she takes advantage of him, but I don't think she necessarily means to purposefully, because even she is naive and still has a lot to learn. (Hence her extreme likeness to Bloo.)
BlooCheese
11-07-2006, 03:42 PM
Maybe because Eduardo is an idiot? I know sometimes people can piss me off just by being idiots. :(
That is just plain wrong.
And perhaps Goo treats Ed that way because he's vulnerable. I remember having a real shocker in my own life when I had a discussion with my mechanic one day and I asked him why I keep attracting these older guys who are perverted or crazy, and he said to me, "I guess cause you look vulnerable." (Which scared me, not that he intended anything by saying that.) So if Goo was made to feel "little" by being teased or whatever, she basically takes her own social problems out on Ed, who is the most vulnerable in the group, because he's so scared of everything and is also gullible. Basically, she takes advantage of him, but I don't think she necessarily means to purposefully, because even she is naive and still has a lot to learn. (Hence her extreme likeness to Bloo.)
Makes sense to me.
Goo's not the only one who tortures Ed. In "The Big Cheese," Ed didn't want to be filmed pantsless, but the camera person kept filming him even when he stepped out of view.
In "Go Goo Go," Goo created countless imaginary friends, she kept returning even when told not to, she forced the residents to move into the bus, she raised hell for Mac, and she almost ended his visits to Foster's. But she still had the nerve to cry. It's like she didn't even consider what trouble she caused at Foster's. And at the end, it was Mac apologizing when it should have been Goo. I find that a bit ironic.
lucyrocks73
11-07-2006, 07:44 PM
Rewatched a few episodes. It seems to me like Goo is like that to everyone, not just Ed (I'm not arguing with anyone at all). I think that we notice (I noticed it, that's for sure) it a lot more because everyone else can take Goo's bossy orders and comments, and Eduardo is more sensitve and can't.
I'm not saying that Ed's stupid (and not saying anything against anyone who was discussing this topic earlier), but he is more sensitive. And that's not a bad thing, because it makes Eduardo... well, Eduardo!
It does bug me though.
Hey, no one's perfect. Goo's bossiness and ocasional nastiness just happen to be hers.
I think the reason why she's one of my favortite characters is because she's very interesting to read into. There are many aspects of her personality that are fun to explore and debate about.
And I am a true geek.
-Marty :goo:
Nathander
11-07-2006, 08:34 PM
Maybe because Eduardo is an idiot? I know sometimes people can piss me off just by being idiots. :(
I fail to see how, in any respect, Eduardo is an idiot. If you could provide some form of evidence I'd possibly hear you out, but from what I can tell, you seem to merely be making a claim based on your own personal bias towards the character without any substantial evidence provided by the episodes.
Well said. And perhaps Goo treats Ed that way because he's vulnerable. I remember having a real shocker in my own life when I had a discussion with my mechanic one day and I asked him why I keep attracting these older guys who are perverted or crazy, and he said to me, "I guess cause you look vulnerable." (Which scared me, not that he intended anything by saying that.) So if Goo was made to feel "little" by being teased or whatever, she basically takes her own social problems out on Ed, who is the most vulnerable in the group, because he's so scared of everything and is also gullible. Basically, she takes advantage of him, but I don't think she necessarily means to purposefully, because even she is naive and still has a lot to learn. (Hence her extreme likeness to Bloo.)
In a lot of ways, that's what I personally think it is. I doubt that she intends to actually hurt him, but I do think that she herself is so self-conscious about personality attributes that pertain to herself that she dislikes seeing in others that she tends to lash out at them. However, I still have the feeling that I tend to overanalyze everything pertaining to the world and the characters of FHFIF, which I guess goes with the territory of being a fan boy.
Chaos Wielder
11-07-2006, 09:02 PM
See, this was exactly what I was talking about in the favorite IF thread-the Eduardo bashing. Personally, I think there's a difference between being stupid and being innocent. Eduardo is definitely the latter because of his naive, child-like mind, in my opinion. He just simply can't comprehend some of the more complex issues such as love and probably other issues because he is child-like in nature, not because he is stupid. He has proven that he is basically a child IF trapped in a (supposedly) adult IF's body time and time again in the episodes.
However, getting angry at a character because of "stupidity" is just flat-out uncool and wrong, as others have stated. Besides, since this show is supposedly aimed mostly at the younger audience (with many adults included as well) then what kind of image would it be showing to children if it was screaming out "Hey, let's all take our anger out on certain characters because they're stupid! Their idiocy should be ridden of immediately!"
Now, I am not trying to be offensive here-that is not my intention. I am merely making the point that characters should never have anger taken out on them simply because they are "stupid", which, in my opinion, Eduardo isn't even that at all. I just hope that I have made it clear that I am not trying to flame or upset anyone, just to show you how I feel about this. :)
But to get back on topic, I will admit that Goo seems to be treating everyone like that lately-she got snippy with Frankie, Wilt and some others, too, all of them not really seeming to do anything wrong to deserve it, either (well, at least to my knowledge-it's been awhile since I've seen those episodes). Wonder what's up with that?
Sparky
11-07-2006, 09:10 PM
Yeah. Some of the characters on the show really ARE stupid, let's not get them mixed up, ok? :terrsmile:
Chaos Wielder
11-07-2006, 09:13 PM
XD Yeah, that's definitely true. But I have to admit that a lot of them are actually likeable because of their stupidity, which is what makes them amusing and interesting. ;)
Invader Bloo
11-08-2006, 10:30 AM
Yeah. Some of the characters on the show really ARE stupid, let's not get them mixed up, ok? :terrsmile:
Cheese, Bloo, Terrence (Hope that dosen't offend you, but you did say you liked how he's dumb :D )
I don't think she should boss Ed around he's as scared as it, let alone being bossed around by some girl who have his size. She can boss Frankie, Wilt, Mac, Herriman,Cheese,Coco (besides the fact that they're best friends) & anyone else around because they can take it (except Bloo who would fight back).
LaBlooGirl
11-08-2006, 12:24 PM
Cheese, Bloo, Terrence (Hope that dosen't offend you, but you did say you liked how he's dumb :D )
I don't think she should boss Ed around he's as scared as it, let alone being bossed around by some girl who have his size. She can boss Frankie, Wilt, Mac, Herriman,Cheese,Coco (besides the fact that they're best friends) & anyone else around because they can take it (except Bloo who would fight back).
I dunno I disagree about Bloo being stupid. He's incredibly NAIVE, but since he's only five, can we fairly call him stupid? He needs to learn a lot of lessons and facts in general (like what reality is all about), but I don't like to think of him as stupid. Don't forget, he comes from the mind of a very complex kid and therefore I like to think of him as complex deep inside, especially as he matures. Bloo also directed an entire movie and finds ways to con people into getting what he wants, so clearly he can not be stupid....;)
I find Bloo to be, well, a wee bit stupid. Not in the sense that he can't think up some fairly elaborate schemes or show some ingenuity, which he can. But, well, he has a sort of "Daffy Duck" stupidity, because he's smart in many ways, he just isn't able to learn from his mistakes. And, to me, that's a basic element of intelligence.
Master Knight DH
11-08-2006, 03:14 PM
I wasn't trying to piss anybody off. Why do you have to jump on a freaking bandwagon?
Okay, so maybe I worded incorrectly. But Eduardo is still definitely far from the smartest person on the Foster's block--something that's clear in various episodes. I'm not trying to insult him, I'm pointing out about his less than stellar intelligence. And I don't hate characters for that. I was simply saying that Goo could have some issue with Eduardo's low intelligence, which now that I think about it would have been fed by pride in her adoption method (described by her as "super-super smooth and super-super fast" so a weak link wouldn't make her happy).
And in case you're wondering about an example of me being bugged by idiocy, I have a job correcting papers in a math class at a college. The math involved doesn't even hit the Algebra level, and yet I see some students make mistakes going against common sense. There was also a test yesterday, and when I corrected the papers for it, a good deal of students bombed on it. At least I (mostly) avoid venting about it--despite an already bad anger problem. Then again, with bigger fish to fry, it's a minor concern anyway. Well, at least it's better than using the threat of possible arrest on a charge of just friggin' loitering.
I hope this stops. Now I'm not even sure if I should have mentioned about idiocy. Smoking and teasing both get under my skin even more (definitely smoking) and I've been for about 6-7 years under an unhealthy love obsession toward somebody who not only would tease me but I would guess is a smoker as well.
BlooCheese
11-08-2006, 03:36 PM
I dunno I disagree about Bloo being stupid. He's incredibly NAIVE, but since he's only five, can we fairly call him stupid? He needs to learn a lot of lessons and facts in general (like what reality is all about), but I don't like to think of him as stupid. Don't forget, he comes from the mind of a very complex kid and therefore I like to think of him as complex deep inside, especially as he matures. Bloo also directed an entire movie and finds ways to con people into getting what he wants, so clearly he can not be stupid....;)
Yes, and he managed to outsmart Mac in "I Only Have Surprise for You," so I guess if you can outsmart an already smart person, that makes you pretty clever. Bloo's smartness is on a totally different level.
Nathander
11-08-2006, 06:49 PM
I dunno I disagree about Bloo being stupid. He's incredibly NAIVE, but since he's only five, can we fairly call him stupid? He needs to learn a lot of lessons and facts in general (like what reality is all about), but I don't like to think of him as stupid. Don't forget, he comes from the mind of a very complex kid and therefore I like to think of him as complex deep inside, especially as he matures. Bloo also directed an entire movie and finds ways to con people into getting what he wants, so clearly he can not be stupid....;)
I agree with you to a point, but in general, I agree with what Emma said on the topic. He's quite obviously not stupid stupid, but he doesn't have any common sense or the ability to learn from his mistakes, which shows a form of stupidity.
Okay, so maybe I worded incorrectly. But Eduardo is still definitely far from the smartest person on the Foster's block--something that's clear in various episodes. I'm not trying to insult him, I'm pointing out about his less than stellar intelligence. And I don't hate characters for that. I was simply saying that Goo could have some issue with Eduardo's low intelligence, which now that I think about it would have been fed by pride in her adoption method (described by her as "super-super smooth and super-super fast" so a weak link wouldn't make her happy).
I apologize for jumping down your throat, but I still have to disagree with you on this subject. While Eduardo is far from the smartest person, I would say that he has average intelligence; he's merely limited in showing this by his paranoia and timidity, which comes up under almost every situation.
And if Goo does have an issue with Eduardo, it wouldn't be over stupidity due to the fact that, all appearances in "Infernal Slumber", stupidity does not appear to bother Goo. Her reaction to Cheese is that "he's stupid" (referring to the fact that she apparently believed her seance had succeeded and that Cheese was a spirit) and then says she's going to try again. Stupidity from others, therefore, doesn't seem to bother her but rolls off her; as far as I remember, she didn't have any real problem with Cheese in The Big Cheese (it hurts to even name that episode........). So the issue isn't stupidity, and we don't know (and probably never will know) what it is, which really bugs me.
Yes, and he managed to outsmart Mac in "I Only Have Surprise for You," so I guess if you can outsmart an already smart person, that makes you pretty clever. Bloo's smartness is on a totally different level.
Exactly. Whereas Mac is smart, both bookwise and in common sense, Bloo is cunning and creative. After all, he was able to deliver his SOS message in The Sweet Stench of Success.
However, back on topic to Goo.....
You know, I've been thinking about something about all the people who've created IFs, and the general idea behind them seems to quite clearly be that the IF they create compliments something missing from them. Bloo possesses all the bad traits Mac doesn't have, Red possesses all the good traits Terrence apparently doesn't have, Herriman is a lawgiver and a stick-in-the-mud whereas Madam Foster is carefree, rowdy, and adventurous.
So how do Goo's IFs compliment her, if at all?
From what we can tell from "Go, Goo, Go!", she made all her IFs merely to avoid and counteract her loneliness due to the fact that she has no friends. My question is this: why doesn't she really have friends? Is it really because her personality would have put that many people off (which I kind of find hard to swallow, as I could imagine there could be people as immature as Goo at her age that she could've gotten along with), or does she herself not actively try to make friends? I almost get the feeling that Goo has abandonment issues, that she was possibly hurt/betrayed by a previous friend in some childish way (as children do), and, as we've seen, she herself can be a crybaby when her feelings are hurt. So I'm wondering if she basically decided not to try to make friends, yet couldn't stand being alone and thus resorted to creating IFs. I believe the fact that she even really tried to befriend Mac was due to the fact that she saw they had some kind of even ground to stand on, that being interest in/love of IFs, and that she became more comfortable around him when she saw that Bloo was Mac's friend.
I wish that this would be something they would maybe delve into, but I doubt they will and, despite my love of the character, I don't have high hopes for "Make Believe it or Not", though that may be due just to the fact that I'm naturally a cynic.
And again, I'm probably overanalyzing the situation/character. :P
Cassini90125
11-08-2006, 08:06 PM
You may be overanalyzing, but it's nonetheless an excellent analysis. Excellent work! :)
LaBlooGirl
11-09-2006, 05:43 AM
I find Bloo to be, well, a wee bit stupid. Not in the sense that he can't think up some fairly elaborate schemes or show some ingenuity, which he can. But, well, he has a sort of "Daffy Duck" stupidity, because he's smart in many ways, he just isn't able to learn from his mistakes. And, to me, that's a basic element of intelligence.
Perhaps, but he DOES learn, albeit very slowly. I know a few people myself who have to have a certain situation happen SEVERAL times before they finally learn why it was a problem. I'm being vague on purpose because I don't want to go in detail about it.
But anyway, I still disagree about Bloo being stupid. He's very naive which may make him SEEM that way, but even a "wee bit" I don't agree with. LOL Great minds don't always think alike. ;)
Sparky
11-09-2006, 05:40 PM
There is a difference between being unintelligent and just not thinking. "Stupid" is a vague term that can define either. Bloo isn't unintelligent but he often does not think, therefore in a *sense* of the word, he can be stupid. :) It just depends on how you define stupidity, really.
Kzinistzerg
11-09-2006, 07:15 PM
Correct. Poeple with raw intelligence can still be stupid, in my view.
There is a difference between being unintelligent and just not thinking. "Stupid" is a vague term that can define either. Bloo isn't unintelligent but he often does not think, therefore in a *sense* of the word, he can be stupid. :) It just depends on how you define stupidity, really.
Yeah! That's what I was...attempting to say earlier. Inarticulateness thy name is Emma. ;)
BlooCheese
11-09-2006, 08:48 PM
Correct. Poeple with raw intelligence can still be stupid, in my view.
Ah yes. I agree, as I am living proof.
LaBlooGirl
11-10-2006, 04:41 AM
There is a difference between being unintelligent and just not thinking. "Stupid" is a vague term that can define either. Bloo isn't unintelligent but he often does not think, therefore in a *sense* of the word, he can be stupid. :) It just depends on how you define stupidity, really.
Okay so then I think a better word for him would be "clueless". Probably what's bothering me is that "stupid" has a rather strong conotation (sp?) to it, and isn't an appropriate term for him. Of course this is my own opinion, and you all know I could go on forever when debating (lol) but I just can't agree on it.
In that same respect, if Wilt was called "stupid", for whatever reason, it would probably bother the many fans or even just the people who know his personality well and don't understand the use of the word. That's kind of how I feel about Bloo, so maybe I'm being a little biased, but he simply is NOT stupid to me, and I'll hold to that. (He's selfish, sometimes a big jerk, and naive/clueless, yes all those things, but not stupid.)
And here I go, on and on and on...:gooblab:
lol
BlooCheese
11-10-2006, 01:23 PM
I understand what you're getting at. Bloo's no Einstein, but he's definitely not "stupid" in the sense that he's a thick-headed, dimwitted numskull either. Some of his ideas may be brash and silly, but he's still clever enough to come up with brilliant schemes and solve things on his own. After all, who was it who discovered the secret behind the photos in "The Big Picture" and outsmarted Mac in "I Only Have Surprise for You"?
bloonuggets
11-10-2006, 05:28 PM
And next week, she returns in "Make-Believe It Or Not!"
heartless95
11-12-2006, 02:04 PM
If goo isn`t a bigpart she shouldn`t be there it`s just dumb
Kzinistzerg
11-13-2006, 06:22 PM
Ah yes. I agree, as I am living proof.
Me too. Hence my confidence in my statement.
Nathander
11-17-2006, 05:31 PM
As I've stated in the "Make Believe it or Not Thread", that episode, in my mind, confirmed that Goo has some form of abandonment issue. While it is natural for kids to react irritably and unhappily when they feel they're being ignored, Goo took it to an extreme. Not the fact that she created the IFs she created, but the fact that she couldn't let go of having failed to be able to keep up with Mac in their little "one-up" contest. While that wouldn't necessarily have anything to do with an abandonment issue, I personally think that she feels she has to prove herself, a lot like Bloo seems to at times, and that if she fails she feels she'll be all left alone. Probably groundless speculation, but it's my current belief.
Something else got me: they showed her at her house in MBION, but there were absolutely no shots of her parents. Not one. While it may or may not mean anything, you have to wonder how much attention her parents really give to her. While we know that they don't want to restrict her creativity, they don't appear to do anything to let it flourish, let alone help her current self-esteem. And I think that's what gets me: they don't want to stiffle her creativity so she'll have good self-esteem when she's a teen, but they're ignoring the fact that she already has lousy self-esteem. She feels the need to keep fighting on whatever grounds she's already fighting without giving up even when it's over, she has limited social skills, she herself seems fairly complacent with being ignored at times (she didn't really start interacting again until Wilt brought her back into the fold of the game), ect.
I'm just saying, you have to be a somewhat aloof parent to not notice your child already has what you wanted to prevent them from getting.
OVERANALYSIS! :gooblab:
billytheskink
11-17-2006, 06:58 PM
Overanalysis seems a fair term to tab your theory. I don't see the writers going that far, but I suppose it is certainly possible.
HappyFoppy
11-19-2006, 10:20 AM
If goo isn`t a bigpart she shouldn`t be there it`s just dumb
People think she's a fun character, so do I, and if the crew wants her in, they put her in. Every show has some small minor characters. I guess the whole community of the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy would look different without Fred Fredburger, and that the making of Foster's would be hard, if you had to have a house full of Imaginary friends that all have to be major. If you'd only take the major characters of this show, the whole house would be EMPTY. So just live with those minor characters. Good?
Mr. Marshmallow
11-19-2006, 12:07 PM
Minor characters are fine but like I said before about Goo and even Cheese, characters are only good unless there over abused. Goo and Cheese don't really NEED to be in the show unless the episode is strictly surrounded around them like "Make Believe it or Not" or "The Big Cheese".
Sometimes it's funny like in "Inferanl Slumber" but other times it just seems like a pointless addition like in "The Big Picture" or "Bus the two of us". I don't think it was critically important to get Goo in there. Granted hearing Herriman speak jibberish was funny, but she didn't do much other then that.
Goo's latest episode did require her of course but other then that, I think she needs a break from air time just to make it easier to take in. I liked Goo's return here because it was a while since we last saw her, so it wasn't too bad seeing her again. But it'll get bad if they over use her too much.
lucyrocks73
11-20-2006, 12:55 PM
People think she's a fun character, so do I, and if the crew wants her in, they put her in. Every show has some small minor characters. I guess the whole community of the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy would look different without Fred Fredburger, and that the making of Foster's would be hard, if you had to have a house full of Imaginary friends that all have to be major. If you'd only take the major characters of this show, the whole house would be EMPTY. So just live with those minor characters. Good?
Exactly.
And, once again, let me compare Foster's to being in a play.
Y'see, in muscials and other plays, everyone really, REALLY wants the lead. They don't think that there is any point to having a part unless it's huge. But the chorus and background people MAKE the play. Without them, there's just a big stage and a shorter show (hey, all the chorus numbers, occasional humor ditties, and other stuff would be gone). For example, I'm Kelci (the piano playing chick?) in High School Musical right now. The entire show is about a high school, of course. Not just the six main leads. What high school has six people? You have to make it look realistic.
I never said that some of the chorus people don't bug me with their endless whining of, "But I'm so much better than [insert name here]! Why didn't I get the part?" Been there, done that... The chorus days were fun...
Just like the chorus people, the minor characters need to be there...
Or else there isn't Foster's, or there isn't a High School, or any kind of enviorment you want to show.
I always thought being in the chorus was fun, because you could have fun without a lot of pressure. Well, a minor character can add (or take away) from an episode because they don't have to do anything to the plot. The pressure is gone.
Of course, Goo doesn't always do that... Take the last episode. I think she's pushing her way towards being a main-esque (ha) character in that she's had to solve the plot of an episode before.
I like that happy medium- Goo can be a minor character ("I Only Have Surprise for You"), or a main character ("Make Believe it Or Not"). I think that it's pretty cool that a character can do that. I mean, you couldn't have an episode without Mac, because, y'know, he's Mac- one of the MAIN characters.
And now I'm ranting and babbling, so I'll stop now... :bloogrin
-Marty :goo:
BlooCheese
11-20-2006, 03:19 PM
If goo isn`t a bigpart she shouldn`t be there it`s just dumb
If we should get rid of Goo, then we should also get rid of the several dozen imaginary friends that only serve as background characters. And then Frankie's life would be a lot easier because she only has to care for Bloo, Coco, Wilt, and Eduardo, Foster's probably wouldn't even be needed, and the house would be abandoned. Characters that don't have major roles are still necessary and contribute to the overall caliber of the show. They are important.
lucyrocks73
11-20-2006, 06:39 PM
If we should get rid of Goo, then we should also get rid of the several dozen imaginary friends that only serve as background characters. And then Frankie's life would be a lot easier because she only has to care for Bloo, Coco, Wilt, and Eduardo, Foster's probably wouldn't even be needed, and the house would be abandoned. Characters that don't have major roles are still necessary and contribute to the overall caliber of the show. They are important.
(*nods in agreement*)
Minor characters rock. And it seems like the main cast has fun doing their voices occasionally...
-Marty :goo:
basilsunshine
11-27-2006, 04:55 PM
I was so happy that Goo wasn't even mentioned in Good Wilt Hunting. I know this sounds mean, but without her in it, I was much more pleased with the outcome. I made a vow that if Goo ended up adopting Wilt in the end, I'd vow to never watch the new episodes, if not for a good laugh. But I couldn't desert dear old FHFIF. Even if I tried. Goo is just really blahblah:gooblab: . She's just like "OohI'msofunnycauseIcantalkfastandknowhowtosolveeve ryproblemespeciallywhenitcomestoCheeselikeinthatse curityepisodeeventhoughLouiseshouldhavebeentheonec auseshe'shiscreatoerandshouldknowhimmorethanIdoooo oooo!" just like that.
I'm really sorry to the Goo fans out there. I just had to get it out.
some guy you dont know
11-28-2006, 07:21 PM
yeah, she is pretty annoying. but then again, i guess thats how i can relate to her. i just dont talk at 20 miles a minuite. and im pretty sure that if imaginary friends could come real, that id be fosters favorite person.
The bloo
12-02-2006, 10:19 AM
Goo is very annoying
Jabberwocky
12-02-2006, 02:52 PM
Awww what? Goo is my favorite character. She has yellow cowboy boots! I wouldn't mind her being in more episodes unless it was completely totally totally pointless.
Nathander
12-03-2006, 12:15 AM
ANd that's the thing; I think Goo is a great character when used in moderation. She's, in my mind, more of a minor character than an actual major character, and I think that she's better used as support than taking up the limelight. Not that it's bad if she's in the limelight once in awhile; however, when she is constantly, it becomes a problem. I mean, she obviously has her fans, but it's no where near a high enough fanbase that she can become a main support for the show.
I love the character, they just need to let her lay low for a little while.
X-Cheese-fangirl-x
12-03-2006, 12:08 PM
Goo is cool, I am basically the British version of her but a tiny bit on the mature side, I don't have the same looks as her and probably taller.
BabyElephant
12-03-2006, 12:38 PM
Goo is cool, I am basically the British version of her but a tiny bit on the mature side, I don't have the same looks as her and probably taller.
Ha, I would love to hear Goo with a British accent! Actually, there could be a "foreign" equivalent to all the IFs...a French Bloo, an Egyptian Eduardo, a German Mr. Herriman...:herriman:
Thornwhistle
12-03-2006, 01:04 PM
. . . or an italian speaking Wilt.
some guy you dont know
12-03-2006, 07:03 PM
. . . or an italian speaking Wilt.
how about a spanish coco? ive always wanted to hear coco with a spanish accent. although its not much of a diffrence. and thinking about these foreign fosters makes me go back to topic, imagine if goo were to actually imagine them? like that japanese speaking bloo
megatron01
01-18-2007, 02:54 PM
She is the only secondary character that I like. And I just keep rambling on how much I like her... :gooblab:
Crash-N-Cortex
01-18-2007, 05:16 PM
Goo is a pretty, cool character to have in this show. She does talk a whole lot, but I'm quite used to it. Goo still needs to control her imagination though, so that she won't accidently create an evil force.
lalagooeyhead
02-21-2007, 01:25 PM
Why does no one care about Goo as much as the other characters??
Is she not one of the mostest bestest character like ever?? Haha all I know is that she is not considered a main character and it hurts me deeply. Please support Goo-- you know you want to!-- by adding her myspace!
http://myspace.com/hillarybritneylolipopstar :goo:
Nathander
02-21-2007, 06:27 PM
Unfortunately, lala, I have to disagree. While I love Goo to pieces, I have no desire for her to become a main character. She's a character best served in small doses, unlike Cheese, who is a character better served in no doses (yes, that might sound hypocritical, but I honestly don't care by this point). There are very few times I think she's successfully been used as a major character in a story; see "Neighbor Pains" and "The Big Cheese" as examples of this.
Really, as I've said before: I adore Goo, I just want her to come by a little less often than she does.
Mr. Marshmallow
02-24-2007, 12:02 AM
I agree with Nathander. Goo is just fine where she is, and does not by any means have to or need to become a central character. It wouldn't be smart for many reasons, one of the biggest being the show already has a wide cast of characters as we speak. The Foster's 5, Madame Foster, Herriman, Frankie etc.
Episodes are often dividing characters up and focusing on just one or two certain individuals, adding Goo to the mix would only increase the division, not to mention the fact that as we have all seen, just because your a main character doesn't mean you will be in every episode and be a big part of every plot.
Goo has certainly become a much more tolerable and enjoyable character since she was served humble pie in MBIN, despite the fact that episode still served as a vehicle for her ego. But what makes Goo less workable as a main character is her entire gimmick: her gabbing, that's basically what makes Goo unique.
The fact she dresses like a rodeo clown (and at times acts like one), makes it hard for me to see her as a main cast member. Her gabby mouth can't really function in every episode and I think she serves better for timely placed plot points rather then trying to stuff her into main cast mate slots every ep.
Goo is fine right where she is, and so is Cheese, I'm enjoying his absence considering that the episodes recently have not starred him and still entertained me a great deal. Even "Good Wilt Hunting" functioned just fine without Cheese or Goo, so like I said before, I think Goo is fine where she is.
I don't hate her and no one should take my words as flames either, I'm just saying that Goo is doing just fine where she is and I think she's better off here then having to be tossed into the main character mix.
I think she's better off here then having to be tossed into the main character mix.
YESTHANKYOUVERYMUCH.
Even thought I posted here earlier, I just want to post my more...detailed opinion on her, if you know what I mean. Before I was just plain anti-Goo, but now I'm neutral for her, although it's leaning towards anti-Goo once more. Be warned, there's a long post ahead:
Anywhoo...In my eyes, I don't think she's a terrible character, but she's not a awesome character. My first thoughts on her were rather negative, since Go Goo Go, I really hated disliked her. She let hell break loose on Mac, causing him to be near-banned from Foster's. True, she did redeem herself towards that end of the episode, but that didn't make me like her more.
Her 2nd role in The Big Picture was very good and she didn't do anything that would make me dislike her more, but it raised points on my "Pro-Goo" scale. This, and Bus The Two of Us, are the only episodes that had her in good roles, IMO (No offense to anybody). :frankiesmile:
Her 3rd sighting in Neighbor Pains, unfortuantly, caused me to lose almost all respect for her. I was starting to like her, but then this "Bossy Goo" bullcrap shows up. Frankie, Wilt and Ed go through enough torture enough as it is, and Goo just makes it worse. I would like to call her a certain word, but I can get banned for it.
Her 4th time with the friends in Infernal Slumber...well, I'm a bit wishy-washy about this episode, since Goo was a bit sexist. I really hate sexist things, and this caused even more anti-Goo points. However, she did get some pro-Goo points for calling Cheese a spirit. But, other than that...she's meh in this episode.
In the 5th appearance, I Only Have Surprise for You, she was meh as well. Insulting Mac got herself a whopper of anti-Goo points (yeah I know that's getting old but I don't care). Since I was annoyed by her in this eppie, I praise Mac for bounding and gagging her with a gift in her pie hole. Please don't jump down my throat for that. She was a part of Bloo's plan, so she got what she deserves. :scaryberry:
The 6th eppie with her, Bus The Two of Us, was a great one and Goo, thankfully, won many pro-Goo points, especially with Boy of Spotted Tongue and Japanese Bloo. I even offically turned pro-Goo when I saw this whole episode. :goo:
But with her 7th show, it all crashed and burned when she she had her "Leave it me 'cuz I'm a pro" deal. She was rather arrogant and braggy when Frankie thanked her. I hate people like that.
The 8th she-bang, Make Believe it or Not, she was once again meh. She got her fair share of hell when she made the video-game-type friends, and she got some pro-Goo points for the imangination game she made with the others.
I'm in no mood for flames because I worked hard on this post, so if you got nothing nice to say, say nothing at all.
Cassini90125
02-24-2007, 12:42 PM
Excellent analysis. I can't say that I agree with all of it, but it was definitely well thought out and well written. Great job! :)
Nathander
02-25-2007, 08:19 PM
I agree with Nathander. Goo is just fine where she is, and does not by any means have to or need to become a central character. It wouldn't be smart for many reasons, one of the biggest being the show already has a wide cast of characters as we speak. The Foster's 5, Madame Foster, Herriman, Frankie etc.
Episodes are often dividing characters up and focusing on just one or two certain individuals, adding Goo to the mix would only increase the division, not to mention the fact that as we have all seen, just because your a main character doesn't mean you will be in every episode and be a big part of every plot.
Goo has certainly become a much more tolerable and enjoyable character since she was served humble pie in MBIN, despite the fact that episode still served as a vehicle for her ego. But what makes Goo less workable as a main character is her entire gimmick: her gabbing, that's basically what makes Goo unique.
The fact she dresses like a rodeo clown (and at times acts like one), makes it hard for me to see her as a main cast member. Her gabby mouth can't really function in every episode and I think she serves better for timely placed plot points rather then trying to stuff her into main cast mate slots every ep.
Goo is fine right where she is, and so is Cheese, I'm enjoying his absence considering that the episodes recently have not starred him and still entertained me a great deal. Even "Good Wilt Hunting" functioned just fine without Cheese or Goo, so like I said before, I think Goo is fine where she is.
I don't hate her and no one should take my words as flames either, I'm just saying that Goo is doing just fine where she is and I think she's better off here then having to be tossed into the main character mix.
I honestly believe this to be one of the few times I've agreed with you in entirety with what you have to say. Good show, sir! :)
Crash-N-Cortex
02-25-2007, 09:25 PM
Goo is one of favorite characters on Foster's, so I glad to see her in upcoming Foster's episodes.
FostersFriend
05-17-2007, 10:49 AM
I think Goo can be really helpfull when the time is needed. She has her own creative ways to figure things out. Example was when Cheese was the only one to know the security code, she was pretty smart to know that dancing would help him call out the security code sounds. And thank goodness she has an active imagination, Bloo and Mac would have gotten in alot of trouble if it wasn't for those two imaginary friends she made of them. (Wonder who asdopted them?)
But yeah Goo has her moments.
Ub3rD4n
05-20-2007, 09:54 PM
Well, I for one would love to see her as a main character, but I can see why they might not want to do that. After all, she's not everyone's cup of tea. Although the same could be said for all the main characters, those are the ones that were there from the start, and attracted people to the show. So if people like her so much, there should be a show with her (or someone like her) in a more starring role (though not THE star, that just wouldn't work for Goo) which is seperate from Fosters, so that people who dislike her aren't forced to see her every episode. And a show with Goo as a main character would probably rock!
So, in conclusion, I think you guys are maybe a bit harsh on Goo, but that's your opinion and I'm fine with that. More Goo for the rest of us.:goo:
kageri
05-21-2007, 09:30 AM
Well, I for one would love to see her as a main character, but I can see why they might not want to do that. After all, she's not everyone's cup of tea. Although the same could be said for all the main characters, those are the ones that were there from the start, and attracted people to the show. So if people like her so much, there should be a show with her (or someone like her) in a more starring role (though not THE star, that just wouldn't work for Goo) which is seperate from Fosters, so that people who dislike her aren't forced to see her every episode. And a show with Goo as a main character would probably rock!
A show with Goo as a main character would probably give me dangerously high blood pressure.
Cassini90125
05-21-2007, 01:01 PM
A show with Goo as a main character would probably give me dangerously high blood pressure.
Or a brain hemorrhage. Sorry, but I think a show like that would be very hard to take. I liked Goo in "Go Goo Go" but for me it's been all downhill from there.
koosie
05-21-2007, 02:14 PM
Or a brain hemorrhage. Sorry, but I think a show like that would be very hard to take. I liked Goo in "Go Goo Go" but for me it's been all downhill from there.
I've really enjoyed all Goo's contributions because she's pure cartoonism but I would happily compromise a few less appearances for a couple of properly Goo-heavy episodes. An entire show at that pace may be rather taxing for the average viewer.
cartman414
07-28-2007, 09:57 PM
I've really enjoyed all Goo's contributions because she's pure cartoonism but I would happily compromise a few less appearances for a couple of properly Goo-heavy episodes. An entire show at that pace may be rather taxing for the average viewer.
And quite possibly the animation team as well. She defines near-perpetual motion with a bit of crazy contortion, especially due to her long, swinging limbs. Grey DeLisle is crazy to be able to keep up with her.
Lynnie
07-28-2007, 10:48 PM
I really like Goo. Sure, she's on the wild side, but she's loads of fun. And I consider it a fun challenge to understand what she says first time around. :gooblab:
When she first came onto the scene I must admit I found her a little annoying with how eccentric she was (and I felt so bad for poor Mac :P), but as time went on, I liked her more. Goo in "Bus the Two of Us" was mid-range, I suppose, and so was "The Big Cheese". But I really liked her in "Neighbor Pains", "Infernal Slumber", "The Big Picture", and she was awesome in "Make Believe it or Not". She stepped up to the plate in NP and took charge of Adopt-a-Thought Saturday, and was doing such a great job of it. She finally earned everyone's respect. I just love how everyone stands at attention when she talks to them. Bloo standing at attention with his chest sticking out as if he's holding his breath was sooooo funny!! 8D She was loads of fun in IS, and I liked that game of Truth or Dare. I did however find her immature and inconsiderate of Mac and his mom when she continued to be so loud even though it was like 3 in the morning. She was helpful and genuine in TBP. And her thinking on the same level as Bloo was really funny ("Have you considered a galactic overlord?" lol) And in MBION, what can I say. It was one of my favorite episodes ever! She again stepped up to the plate and took responsibility for what was going on, and "saved" Mac and Bloo from the eveil Space Nutboogies. And it was her genius idea of playing along with the Nutboogies in order to save the day.
I agree she might get annoying if she comes back too often, but every now and then she's great. I hope we see her again in upcoming episodes! :goo:
cartman414
07-29-2007, 03:42 PM
Agreed. Like Cheese, she works really well when placed in just the right situations.
If there's one thing I'd be able to add, it's that there's rarely ever a moment she isn't in motion or saying something.
Xroc88
10-03-2007, 03:09 PM
Goo's talking makes me want to record eveything she said and slow the tempo down in goldwave.
jon.mayes
04-06-2008, 07:54 AM
I USED TO BE LIKE HER
i still get into trouble though(probably cause i still am like her)lol8D
NeverToo
04-06-2008, 09:06 AM
Goo maybe a fast talker but she is so fun and cool to be around with I wish she was real and be my bestfriend and be part of the foster's gang (group of people). :gooblab:
Goo maybe weird but she is fun to talk to and a nice person. :goo:
Creamy
08-25-2008, 05:57 PM
My brother often calls me Goo because I can often be really creative and like up with loads of wacky characters, but mainly because I keep talking really really fast :gooblab:
In fact, one of my favourite episodes is Go Goo Go!
Lynnie
08-25-2008, 11:18 PM
It is fun to talk really fast, and not only that, but let the topic go off on rabbit trails until I'm suddenly talking about something entirely different. Just like Goo. I do, however, realize how irritatingly annoying that would be. So I only do it when I'm alone, as not to annoy anyone. :P
Cell_Phone_guy
08-29-2008, 11:13 AM
I wonder what would happen if Goo ever met Berry or Bendy? Especially Berry.
:gooblab: :scaryberry:
:gooblab: :slybendy:
jekylljuice
08-29-2008, 03:54 PM
I suspect that Goo would make Bendy cry.
Lynnie
08-29-2008, 06:09 PM
I can imagine Bendy pulling his pranks on Goo, and she's speechless at first, and then goes into a raging fit, similar like we see her in "Neighbor Pains" After that, yes, definitely, I can see her making Bendy cry. 8D :sadbendy:
As for Berry, hmm, I think Berry will be the one left speechless at not being able to get a word in. After that, Berry would see Goo as a competitor for attention, especially since Bloo likes Goo, all while Goo is oblivious of Berry's feelings.
WestBunny:3
09-21-2008, 09:38 AM
Berry would see Goo as a competitor for attention, especially since Bloo likes Goo, all while Goo is oblivious of Berry's feelings.
once I saw a fanfic just going like that, nevermind.
I think that Goo has much more personality and a deeper character than we could see in earlier episodes where she seemed a lot more out of scene.
Sorry, did that just make any sense?:D
WiltsAKGirl17
09-22-2008, 08:33 PM
I think I see what you mean-- like she's been developed as a character and has become more than some hyperactive kid thrown in for comic relief? (Assuming I read your post correctly of course... I tend to misread things and then open my big fat mouth and make myself look like a dorkfish. :cheesegrin:)
WestBunny:3
09-30-2008, 01:36 PM
That's exactly what I meant :)
Also, I think that Goo's presence was very nice in the big picture:goo:
Another Castle
04-03-2010, 12:32 AM
I have rather mixed feelings about Goo. I've not seen all the episodes she is in, in some of them, she has a certain charm, but in Go Goo Go and Infernal Slumber, I found her irritating. One thing I didn't like so much about either if those is that feeling of being shunned or ignored- in those occasions it really put me off. I think she was overused in Season Four, in what seemed like every episode. I can imagine this would alienate the viewers who can't stand her.
Just wonder, is there one particular person who writes all her lines? Are they part improvised? I can imagine there are a list of guidelines for writing her dialogue- lots of rambling, going off subject etc.
I like the idea of Bendy meeting her- he'd have genuine reason to :sadbendy:
KazooBloo
11-29-2016, 11:57 PM
I was always indecisive towards Goo. :goo:
vBulletin® v3.7.3, Copyright ©2000-2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.