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Cassini90125
08-16-2006, 08:24 AM
This is just about the classiest lady I've ever known. Smart, funny, hard-working, dedicated, compassionate... I could go on all day. Incredibly beautiful, too. She doesn't get half the credit she deserves for all the work she does around that enormous house. I could write about her all day, and probably will, eventually. I adore this woman. :-*
kageri
08-16-2006, 08:38 AM
Frankie is indeed underappreciated for all the work she does, but what makes her so great is that she does it anyway, because she cares about the IF's so much. She doesn't have to. She could just go off for a night on the town with her friend Kathy we always hear about but have never seen and then someone else would have to deal with it when Bloo decides that sawing the legs off all the chairs so everyone is shorter than him is a pretty good idea. But she doesn't. Now that's dedication! Also, she's smokin'.
FostersFriend
08-16-2006, 08:45 AM
I agree to both comments. Frankie is a great character, don't we all adore this punk rock chic? :D
lucyrocks73
08-16-2006, 09:35 AM
She's a really great character. She has a personality (something a lot of characters on TV shows and cartoons today lack), and she's not afraid to let you know what her opinion is on something.
Frankie rocks. Period.
If you love punk rock redheads who take care of imaginary friends, raise your hand...
(*raises hand*)
-Marty 8-)
Kzinistzerg
08-16-2006, 09:40 AM
*Raises everyone else's hands*
She really is interesting. I don't think I've found anyone that dedicated to anything in my life.
FostersFriend
08-16-2006, 09:51 AM
*raises hand*
Go Frankie! she's very out spoken, kind, and caring for all Friends. She fantastic.
*takes sign with Frankies picture on*
Go Frankie!, Go Frankie! :-*
BlooCheese
08-16-2006, 06:50 PM
I like Frankie. She's cool.
Cassini90125
08-16-2006, 07:09 PM
She's the best. The absolute best. Ever. :-*
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http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f184/Cassini90125/I_LOVE_FRANKIE.gif
:-* :-* :-* :-*
ch3353-h4xx0rrrr
08-16-2006, 07:36 PM
She's pretty dern awesome. I wish she could get more breaks, though... that Herriman works her like a slave. So does Dutchess. :'(
GrimTheLost
08-16-2006, 09:20 PM
Frankie kicks butt- simply put. But, you have to wonde rwhat her favorite punk bands are the Ramones or maybe the "Pistols" ( I don't want to use the whole name it can be seen as "offensive"). I honestly imagine her to listen to the New York Dolls.
BlooCheese
08-16-2006, 10:07 PM
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f184/Cassini90125/I_LOVE_FRANKIE.gif
Oooh! All the pretty colors!
One Radical Dude
08-16-2006, 11:29 PM
What would we do without Francis Foster? For the most part, she's definitely a sweet 22-year-old woman. But when you push the wrong buttons, look out!! :-X I do believe that Frankie does not get the appreciation she deserves. She definitely needs to show that darn rabbit (Mr. Herriman) who's boss.
FostersFriend
08-17-2006, 12:43 AM
I still think the episode 'Frankie my dear' is one of her best. lol and it also brought us Orlando Bloo 8D
taranchula
08-17-2006, 07:01 AM
I still think the episode 'Frankie my dear' is one of her best. lol and it also brought us Orlando Bloo 8D
I second that statement, as I said before on the old forums, I was laughing so hard during the last act of that episode, I thought my chest was going to cave in.
And as I also said before, it's quite refreshing to see a fully fleshed out female character on a cartoon show, one who isn't totally vapid, shop crazy, boy crazy or doesn't come across like a total "know it all" most of the time.
kageri
08-17-2006, 09:45 AM
Or exists solely to fill the "token female character"/"voice of reason" role. That happens all too often...
SkittleMonkey
08-17-2006, 10:09 AM
Well, sometimes she's the voice of reason, but alot less than other female characters on different shows, which is good.
DoubleLatte
08-18-2006, 03:42 AM
What would we do without Francis Foster? For the most part, she's definitely a sweet 22-year-old woman. But when you push the wrong buttons, look out!! :-X I do believe that Frankie does not get the appreciation she deserves.
I think we're just saying that because we're aware of everything she does to keep the house running, day in and day out. That, and we love her. :3 But housework and chores almost always go unappreciated. Think about maids, nannies, hotel housekeepers, cafeteria workers, housewives. In reality, all those occupations are hardly considered "real" jobs and they never receive any praise. I admit that I never give special attention to when my mother sweeps, cooks, and loads the laundry. They're just little things that seem so insignificant because they're all mundane tasks that don't require special skills or a college education, even if they DO take a lot out of you by the end of the day. Thanking Frankie for doing her job would be kind of like us going up to the cafeteria lady and thanking her for cooking. It's not that we don't appreciate it, but I think it's mostly that we've just come to expect it.
I'm thinking Frankie isn't tending to more than a thousand IFs because it's a job, but because deep down she must REALLY love being there, nervous breakdowns and all.
billytheskink
08-20-2006, 03:32 PM
Looks like I'm late to the conversation... Oh well.
I can't say much about Frankie that hasn't already been said; she's the most entertaining character on the show. She also owns the award for the show's best quote (guess which one).
Frankie is a fantastic match of great voice talent (Grey Delisle rarely misses) and excellent animation (particularly with her facial expressions).
Now, something to debate...
Her driver's license lists her at 5 feet 8 inches tall. Her Coco Card lists her at 5 feet 10 inches. Either way, she's fairly tall for a woman, and her neck is awfully long.
Frankie Fan
08-21-2006, 07:05 AM
I adore adore Frankie, hence my username. ;)
Cassini90125
08-21-2006, 10:27 AM
Just some thumbnails I laboriously sliced together this morning:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f184/Cassini90125/Shrine02.jpg
Not that I'm obsessed with Frankie or anything, 'cause I'm not. No, really, I'm not. Seriously. Excuse me, I have a doctor's appointment now. :-*
GrimTheLost
08-21-2006, 08:49 PM
Just some thumbnails I laboriously sliced together this morning:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f184/Cassini90125/Shrine02.jpg
Not that I'm obsessed with Frankie or anything, 'cause I'm not. No, really, I'm not. Seriously. Excuse me, I have a doctor's appointment now. :-*
Where are the originals to those? They are awesome looking! *drools*
Cassini90125
08-21-2006, 10:55 PM
The centerpiece is a screencap; the rest can be found at DeviantArt. Lots of good stuff there, and a lot of garbage, too. Nowhere near as bad as fanart central, fortunately.
GrimTheLost
08-21-2006, 11:07 PM
Cool, from what I can tel those pics are great.
Cassini90125
08-21-2006, 11:12 PM
They certainly are, and they print well, too! :frankiesmile:
billytheskink
08-21-2006, 11:28 PM
I'm still pondering the 5'8" vs. 5'10"...
Sparky
08-21-2006, 11:59 PM
Eh...maybe the 5'10" is just with heels on or something. ;)
Kzinistzerg
08-22-2006, 06:59 AM
Could be coco wasn't really paying attention...
billytheskink
08-22-2006, 08:54 AM
yeah, and sometimes heights are exaggerated on sports cards. Like how Charles Barkley's basketball cards typically listed him as 6'6" to 6'7", he was really a tick under 6'5".
now, why is she a catcher? .288 is a pretty good batting average for a catcher.
LaBlooGirl
08-22-2006, 11:43 AM
I wuff Frankie.
'Nuff said.
Voxxyn
08-23-2006, 10:08 AM
And I'll just say it again: I love Frankie. With Season 4 winding down and the Wilt movie on the way, I hope Season 5 has some good Frankie-centric episodes.
Cassini90125
08-23-2006, 10:10 AM
And I'll just say it again: I love Frankie. With Season 4 winding down and the Wilt movie on the way, I hope Season 5 has some good Frankie-centric episodes.
You and me both, my friend, you and me both. ;)
billytheskink
08-23-2006, 09:53 PM
I've kind of found it interesting that the animators have done away with the hair that fell in front of Frankie's ears. It was present on and off during Season 1 and I don't recall seeing it much, if at all in season 2, or since.
Very Present - From "Store Wars" (http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/1/11-0012.jpg)
Gone - From "Bendy" (http://www.fosters-home.com/screengrabs/2/23-0028.jpg)
Sparky
08-23-2006, 10:01 PM
Yeah I dunno why they'd do that. They changed Terrence's hair at some point too.
I guess Frankie didn't want them anymore...
RedboXen
08-24-2006, 09:17 AM
I allways used to think that girls with that sort of hair style where wearing headphones.
I do find it odd that Frankie has a wardrobe full of identical outfits (as we see in "Bus the Two of Us") but some how managed to have a total make over for her dates in "Frankie My Dear".
Cassini90125
08-24-2006, 09:23 AM
She likely has other outfits in the dresser we saw in "Squeakerboxxx". They'd be better off in the closet, but the dresser is a good possibility.
Medikor
08-24-2006, 10:19 AM
I adore Frankie! She's my favorite character. I guess it may be because we're the same age... I would love to find a girl just like her. But, unfortunatly, she's one of a kind.
billytheskink
08-24-2006, 07:55 PM
I allways used to think that girls with that sort of hair style where wearing headphones.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I never thought about it like that.
I do find it odd that Frankie has a wardrobe full of identical outfits...
That's an often-used and classic cartoon gag; and it is one that I still find pretty darn funny.
It's a play off the tendency of a character to wear the same outfit in practically every episode of a cartoon. Sort of an "explaination" of why Frankie wears a green windbreaker all the time (as opposed to the real explaination; it makes animation easier).
Bloo2daMacs
08-24-2006, 08:44 PM
It's a play off the tendency of a character to wear the same outfit in practically every episode of a cartoon. Sort of an "explaination" of why Frankie wears a green windbreaker all the time (as opposed to the real explaination; it makes animation easier).
It IS funny when they tos in that gag. Like in "Setting a President" where Bloo claimed that the reason that Frankie always wore the same sweatshirt was because she couldn't change her clthes. "How can you expect change when she can't even change her own clothes..."
heh heh, poor old Frankie. Always getting the bad side of things.
billytheskink
08-24-2006, 08:57 PM
exactly. That was pretty funny as well.
Medikor
08-25-2006, 11:15 AM
I think Frankie is one of the best written characters in the show. She's very realistic but still fits in with the cast. And her moments tend to be the best in any given episode. :)
Voxxyn
08-25-2006, 11:51 AM
poor old Frankie. Always getting the bad side of things.
Which is why I hope the next Frankie episode ends with her actually having a happy ending, instead of being mistreated and/or having an annoying cheat twist for an ending.
One Radical Dude
08-26-2006, 03:06 AM
heh heh, poor old Frankie. Always getting the bad side of things.
Not necessarily true. It's happened to Mac, Bloo, and others. :P
BlooCheese
08-26-2006, 11:19 AM
I think that depressing endings are somtimes better than happy ones. If Foster's ended "and they lived happily ever after" every single episode, I don't think I would like it as much as I do. Life isn't always easy and smooth, and in order for life to seem realistic, there has to be ups and downs.
billytheskink
08-26-2006, 12:21 PM
I think that depressing endings are somtimes better than happy ones. If Foster's ended "and they lived happily ever after" every single episode, I don't think I would like it as much as I do. Life isn't always easy and smooth, and in order for life to seem realistic, there has to be ups and downs.
perhaps. But the "depressing" (I'd use "imperfect" or "twist" instead) endings are not entertaining simply because someone got the short end of the stick. They are entertaining because of who got hosed, how they react, and who is doing the hosing. It's all subjective as to what folks find funny when someone gets hosed, of course.
I found "Busted" entertaining because, even though Frankie got the short end of the stick, her increasingly frustrated reactions to Herriman's silly rules were funny. Or her reaction to the discovery that Bloo and crew have been responsible for a lot of the messes that she has to clean up, "Guys, this isn't cool." (it's so calm compared to how she reacts to Herriman, funny). Also, there's some percieved justice at the end as Frankie chases Herriman around with a broom.
Or rather, "Imposter's" wasn't very entertaining, outside of a few incidents, because Frankie got the short end of the stick at the hands of a jerk. It wasn't funny that she missed her concert because she ran into rude imaginary friend that disguised his primary imaginary attribute. Frankly, I think it would be tough to make a situation where Frankie is unable to take her deserved time off entertaining.
Maybe I think too much about this...
One Radical Dude
08-26-2006, 12:59 PM
I think that depressing endings are somtimes better than happy ones. If Foster's ended "and they lived happily ever after" every single episode, I don't think I would like it as much as I do. Life isn't always easy and smooth, and in order for life to seem realistic, there has to be ups and downs.
I do agree, though it doesn't always work that way. I, for one, do not wish for every episode to have happy endings (except when the show ends, of course ;) ), and that's the case for this show.
BlooCheese
08-26-2006, 01:51 PM
perhaps. But the "depressing" (I'd use "imperfect" or "twist" instead) endings are not entertaining simply because someone got the short end of the stick. They are entertaining because of who got hosed, how they react, and who is doing the hosing. It's all subjective as to what folks find funny when someone gets hosed, of course.
I found "Busted" entertaining because, even though Frankie got the short end of the stick, her increasingly frustrated reactions to Herriman's silly rules were funny. Or her reaction to the discovery that Bloo and crew have been responsible for a lot of the messes that she has to clean up, "Guys, this isn't cool." (it's so calm compared to how she reacts to Herriman, funny). Also, there's some percieved justice at the end as Frankie chases Herriman around with a broom.
Or rather, "Imposter's" wasn't very entertaining, outside of a few incidents, because Frankie got the short end of the stick at the hands of a jerk. It wasn't funny that she missed her concert because she ran into rude imaginary friend that disguised his primary imaginary attribute. Frankly, I think it would be tough to make a situation where Frankie is unable to take her deserved time off entertaining.
Maybe I think too much about this...
What you said makes plenty of sense to me.
Cassini90125
08-26-2006, 01:55 PM
To me as well. "Busted" was funny; "Imposter's" was hurtful. :(
Voxxyn
08-26-2006, 02:28 PM
That is true. But I guess they've done such a good job writing her character that some(Like me) form an attachment that goes way beyond what is expected of characters in a children's cartoon.
But seriously, I have NO problem with gags and funny bits at Frankie's expense--I loved the smear song in "Setting A President"(Though I've personally rewritten it to praise her and attack Herriman :P )--and I don't mind seeing her misery played for laughs as long as she gets some measure of vengeance or catharsis in the end, like in "Busted" and "Crime After Crime".
billytheskink
08-26-2006, 02:32 PM
What you said makes plenty of sense to me.
ok, good. Sometimes I'll get to typing a thought and it comes out less understandable than I'd like.
I agree with you that the show doesn't need to be happy-go-lucky, but it does need to be entertaining. If the writers want to torture the characters, at least make me laugh in the process.
One Radical Dude
08-26-2006, 02:40 PM
Hey, I think they're trying. We can't expect them to get every episode right, you know. Even the best shows have a few "lemons" or "duds" every now and then.
I didn't know we had a kissing Frankie icon = :-*
billytheskink
08-26-2006, 02:41 PM
That is true. But I guess they've done such a good job writing her character that some(Like me) form an attachment that goes way beyond what is expected of characters in a children's cartoon.
It's a tribute to the writers, animators, and Grey DeLisle; that they've created a character in Frankie that fans are able to care about, to whatever extent.
It's also an obstacle to overcome, as they have to be careful how they use her in the show.
In any event, the Foster's crew has done a great job making her a very human character (a very believable one). I appreciate that in a cartoon.
billytheskink
08-26-2006, 02:45 PM
Hey, I think they're trying. We can't expect them to get every episode right, you know. Even the best shows have a few "lemons" or "duds" every now and then.
I didn't know we had a kissing Frankie icon = :-*
Yeah, that's true. I know they are trying, but I hold the show to such a high standard because I know they can do so well.
and I thought that icon was Frankie whistling, but now that you mention it.
Cassini90125
08-26-2006, 02:51 PM
It's a tribute to the writers, animators, and Grey DeLisle; that they've created a character in Frankie that fans are able to care about, to whatever extent.
A lot of the fans, anyway. There are, unfortunately, some people who have no regard for her at all. Some of the garbage posted as "stories" on ff.net and other sites proves it. The rest of the characters get attacked there, too. It's enough to make me want to cry sometimes. :(
BlooCheese
08-26-2006, 03:35 PM
Those people who write trash about Foster's on ff.net -- do they call themselves fans? And if they don't, then why do they want to destroy something that many other people love? Can't they just leave it be?
Cassini90125
08-26-2006, 03:43 PM
They can call themselves whatever they want, but they're not fans. A true fan doesn't treat the characters he or she claims to care about in that manner, be it torturing them, forcing then into relationships that would never happen, whatever, it's not the actions of a fan. I certainly don't do such things with my Foster's Sims; I do everything I can to make them happy and I don't interfere with their lives any more than the game requires. It doesn't say much about a person when they get their kicks from tormenting cartoon characters. It really ticks me off.
billytheskink
08-26-2006, 04:51 PM
never been to ff.net, so I'm not sure exactly what y'all are talking about. I would hope that people have better things to do than write disturbing stories using characters that other people created, I probably hope too much...
BlooCheese
08-26-2006, 05:12 PM
You don't want to go there. Trust me.
Okay. Once in a while, there's a good story, but you can't tell if it's good or bad just by reading the title or the summary. So it's best to stay away from ff.net altogether.
Voxxyn
08-26-2006, 05:41 PM
It's a tribute to the writers, animators, and Grey DeLisle; that they've created a character in Frankie that fans are able to care about, to whatever extent.
"To whatever extent" is very right. There are many casual fans who don't care at all about who gets shafted and whether or not it was justified, as they view it a light and silly kids cartoon and want to enjoy it on that level(I have nothing against them, BTW).
But a diehard fan like me, somebody who deeply sympathizes with Frankie, and often wonders about unanswered aspects of her background and history(Her parents, etc) which will probably never be answered as they'd be a little too dramatic for the show(Unless they give her a movie like they are about to do with Wilt)... it greatly affects how I view her, and how I react to the things that happens to her, good and bad.
Let's just say it's been a LONG time since I've become as attached to a fictional character as I am with Frankie. There are a few others, but just a very few. And Frankie's become one of them.
billytheskink
08-26-2006, 05:51 PM
You don't want to go there. Trust me.
Okay. Once in a while, there's a good story, but you can't tell if it's good or bad just by reading the title or the summary. So it's best to stay away from ff.net altogether.
then that's what I'll do. I don't look at much fan-fiction anyway.
Cassini90125
08-26-2006, 06:01 PM
One thing that really bothers me is that she doesn't seem to get any credit for the enormous amount of work she does in that house, not from the residents or the fans. The only "thank you" I recall her ever getting came, ironically, from Goofball. It's been suggested, loudly, that without Wilt's help, she'd collapse from stress. What a slap in the face. I think she's a little stronger, and a little more dedicated, than that. Let her take a week's vacation, we'll see what kind of shape Bloo & co. have the house reduced to by the time she gets back.
billytheskink
08-26-2006, 06:26 PM
"To whatever extent" is very right. There are many casual fans who don't care at all about who gets shafted and whether or not it was justified, as they view it a light and silly kids cartoon and want to enjoy it on that level(I have nothing against them, BTW).
But a diehard fan like me, somebody who deeply sympathizes with Frankie, and often wonders about unanswered aspects of her background and history(Her parents, etc) which will probably never be answered as they'd be a little too dramatic for the show(Unless they give her a movie like they are about to do with Wilt)... it greatly affects how I view her, and how I react to the things that happens to her, good and bad.
Let's just say it's been a LONG time since I've become as attached to a fictional character as I am with Frankie. There are a few others, but just a very few. And Frankie's become one of them.
Good post.
Even though fans care about Frankie (or whomever) to varrying extents, it says something (good) about the group that makes the show when someone can care about Frankie to the extent that you do.
As I said before, she's a very human character, one you could believe was real in many ways. Makes it easy for me to sympathize with her during her troubles or during her moments in the sun. As a veiwer, I don't want to see her get the short end of the stick, because she doesn't "deserve" it. Happens all the time in real life.
That said, it can be funny to see her stressed out and it can be funny to see her come out on the bottom (while dealing with Bloo's antics, or Herriman's demands, etc.). Her reactions, the situation she's in and the like make that entertaining. Like in "Busted", when she argues with Mr. Herriman over why the proper mop for cleaning the kitchen is stored on the third floor. Absurd situation and an expected but funny reaction. Same with the toilet paper business in the same episode. Even in the much-maligned "Imposter's" she carries on a pretty funny exchange with Goofball; "They have phones in Canada, don't they?"
I'm a bit curious about her parents, and the like, but the show isn't all about her and some aspects of her life just might not be entertaining.
The most I can deduce is that her father is Madame Foster's son, by indication of her last name. I'm sure that's common knowledge around here though. I don't think revealing her past would be too dramatic, unless her parents are dead or something. I always considered them absent for the convenience of the show.
But, yeah, Frankie's a good character. Entertaining whether she wins or not, or when she's just an accessory character in an episode. She's one of my all-time favorite cartoons, up there with Scrooge McDuck.
Didn't know Wilt was going to get his own movie, fun stuff.
LaBlooGirl
08-26-2006, 07:46 PM
To me as well. "Busted" was funny; "Imposter's" was hurtful. :(
Yeah why did they choose to really bash Frankie in Imposter's? Did the writers dislike her? LOL
Then again, you have to admit that episode has some really funny parts, like the whole sandwich ordeal.
(I'll paraphrase...)
"You got some bread in there?"
"Yeah..." ::Frankie shows him the bread::
"And some peanut butter?"
"YEAH."
"And some jelly?"
:GROWL:
"Great, so do you think you could, you know, fashion all that into a sandwich?"
LOL, I was cracking up. That WAS funny.
;D
Voxxyn
08-27-2006, 09:35 AM
Well, there were moments like that which made me crack up, when I originally saw the episode--and thus I didn't know how it would end. I was only starting to watch the series at the time and, not knowing better, was expecting a happy and pleasant ending.
Compare that sandwich gag to the smear song in "Setting A President", another funny-at-first-glance gag at the expense of Frankie.
The difference here, at least to me: since Frankie won the election and actually came out on top in "President", I could enjoy all the gags at her expense even more on repeat viewings, and wound up loving the song. On the other hand, because "Imposter's" ended on such an extremely low note for her, I find absolutely none of it funny in retrospect, and the sandwich bit completely loses any charm it initially had on me.
EDIT: HOWEVER, I need to make another thing clear about her. I have absolutely no problem with less-than-pleasant things happening to her, if she deserves it for doing something wrong and as long as it's done in a silly and funny way. I loved her cookie addiction and aftermath in "Cookie Dough".
Sims Katie
08-27-2006, 09:51 AM
I'm a bit curious about her parents, and the like, but the show isn't all about her and some aspects of her life just might not be entertaining.
The most I can deduce is that her father is Madame Foster's son, by indication of her last name. I'm sure that's common knowledge around here though. I don't think revealing her past would be too dramatic, unless her parents are dead or something. I always considered them absent for the convenience of the show.
She shows up in the yearly photos around number 4 as a small child, and is in every one after that. So she might have been living at Foster's most of her life.
Mr. Marshmallow
08-27-2006, 10:39 AM
EDIT: HOWEVER, I need to make another thing clear about her. I have absolutely no problem with less-than-pleasant things happening to her, if she deserves it for doing something wrong and as long as it's done in a silly and funny way. I loved her cookie addiction and aftermath in "Cookie Dough".
On that, I gotta say something in regards to the episode "Bloooo". I get the impression that alot of people consider that episode to be anti-Frankie and that it gives her a "non funny" treatment that ends poorly like in "Make'em up pals". I think that's crap to be honest.
"Bloooo" doesn't treat Frankie any worse then the other characters were treated, why you ask, because this was designed as a "horror" episode. Frankie was played off as the typical teen girl being stalked by a killer, and I actually thought her running around scared thing really helped the episode.
It gave off a good Halloween vibe and it wasn't a direct bash at her in any way, same with "Cookie Dough". Her obsession with cookies was used as a sub-plot, just like her role in "Bloooo". It was just there to help the show move along, and not in any way try to negatively portray her character.
I mean come on, how can you not find a 22 year old girl going bannanas over cookies and porking on them like there's no tomorrow in a kid's TV show? I do agree though that "Make'em up Pals" was completely negative and was just one Frankie bash joke after the next. She was really thrashed in that one.
Btw, another thing I loved about "Bloooo", this line says it all:
Wilt: All right now it's REALLY sucking!
Nuff said.
billytheskink
08-27-2006, 11:31 AM
On that, I gotta say something in regards to the episode "Bloooo". I get the impression that alot of people consider that episode to be anti-Frankie and that it gives her a "non funny" treatment that ends poorly like in "Make'em up pals". I think that's crap to be honest.
I don't see how any episode of Foster's is "anti-Frankie". The writers play her stress, fear, anger, etc. for entertainment value. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
I didn't think it worked in "Blooooo". Her treatment wasn't funny (to me) and it didn't end particularly well for her (just like it did in "Imposter's"). I just don't see the entertainment value of it.
"Bloooo" doesn't treat Frankie any worse then the other characters were treated, why you ask, because this was designed as a "horror" episode. Frankie was played off as the typical teen girl being stalked by a killer, and I actually thought her running around scared thing really helped the episode.
Agreed that it doesn't treat her worse than the other characters, or worse than she has been treated in other episodes. "Blooooo" may have been designed as a horror episode (as horrific as TV-PG can get, I suppose), but it plays the horror for laughs with the other characters. I can see where putting Frankie in a stereotypical horror role can be funny to some folks, not me though. I saw her running around scared as a device to set up the ending joke. That joke just seemed stupid to me, after all that setup. (Like the ending joke in "Imposter's")
But hey, opions are like fingers, most people have 10. I got caught out in a thunderstorm the night "Blooooo" premiered, so I'll readily admit that may have soured me on the episode.
Mr. Marshmallow
08-27-2006, 11:48 AM
Well episodes may not be anti anything, but a message is certainly stamped in and it can be a bad message for a certain character. "Bloooo" didn't really have anywhere near the negativity or backlash to Frankie like it did in "Make'em up pals".
The big difference is the plot point. Frankie was "always right" in the Imposter's story, and that was the whole idea here, that she was right and never wrong and for once, she couldn't believe no one else saw through Goofball's act.
"Bloooo" was designed to be a parody, now funny doesn't always mean "ha ha", it can be more of an inside joke that isn't designed to make you laugh. The episode was made just to be a parody of horror movies and a couple other things.
Wilt and the others chasing Bloo around was alot like ghostbusters (aside the obvious reference), and this even reminded me of that time Mickey, Goofy, and Donald were chasing ghosts and they ended up looking like ghosts with the tar and white flower bit.
In the end, Frankie was scared out of her mind just for the sake of the horror parody and not to leave her on a sour note. "Make'em up pals" whole message was that Frankie was wrong and everyone was ignoring her left and right and disregarding anything that was important to her.
Just like in "Infernal Slumber" how Mac is going nuts trying to keep his mom asleep, but in the end, everyone's antics was just a means of adding to the parody or crazyness of the episode, not to leave Mac on a sour or bad note.
I felt bad for Mac but after seeing how hard the other friends tried to keep Terrence quiet (even Cheese), that made me feel good because it shows as much as they enjoy having fun and acting crazy, they knew in the long run it was important to Mac.
Frankie just had a case of mistaken identity in "Bloooo" much like Bloo had with Pockets in "Bloo did it". The difference is that the whole mistaken identity issue wasn't as heavily enduced into the plot in "Blooo" like it was with "Bloo did it" and "Make'em up pals".
Whew....hope that helps.
billytheskink
08-27-2006, 01:11 PM
It does help, Mr. M. I had not though of the episode quite like that, so your take on it is certainly very interesting.
Inside joke or laugh-out-loud joke, a parody should be entertaining. I got the parody in "BlHowever, Frankie was simply put in the stereotypical situation of a teen girl in a horror movie. Such movies weren't really spoofed by this, just mimiced. Just putting Frankie in a stereotypical role isn't enough to make such a parody entertaining, she has to be herself while in the role to do that. (like when she's banging on the door, that's entertaining, because it's Frankie acting like Frankie, not a stereotype). Now, I usually laugh at inside jokes, when I get them. I got the joke with Frankie, but it wasn't funny.
Ultimately, I just don't see how it is fun to watch Frankie get locked out in the rain, scared half to death, and eventually faint. I just wind up feeling bad for her, worse after the stalking scary fellow is revealed. She had a bad night for no reason, and didn't generate any funny reactions or expressions in the process. Seems like a pretty sour way to exit the episode to me.
"Imposter's" has a different message than "Blooooo", sure. But with me, it all goes back to entertainment value, not message, because Foster's never really tries to send a strong and important message.
Way I see it, it is not any more fun to see Frankie locked out in a thunderstorm than it is to see her mistreated and disrespected by a jerk. Now, Frankie's reactions in either of these situations can make them entertaining (and both episodes had funny parts due to that, just not enough of them), but neither situation itself is entertaining.
Where "Blooooo" comes up short is making Frankie's bad day entertaining. Watching it, I just think to myself "that just stinks, she didn't deserve that." I pretty much think that when veiwing "Imposter's" as well. Either some percieved justice at the end, or some funny reactions and jokes in the middle of these situations would make them much more palatable.
Medikor
08-27-2006, 01:28 PM
I don't think "Blooooo" was meant to give Frankie a hard time intentionaly. It was just to parody the horror genre as others have said. I found her moments in that episode to be the funnyest of them all. If anything, it shows how loveing she is to Mac and everyone else. And it certainly dosent make Wilt look too bright. Who would throw keys OUTSIDE the house after locking it?8D
Mr. Marshmallow
08-27-2006, 02:16 PM
I understand, Frankie didn't really do anything deserving to get that rotten day but then again, neither did Mac when everyone came over for the slumber party for "Infernal Slumber". Or Mac ignoring Bloo in "Challenge of the superfriends".
But then again, we have to remember that this is all part of the show. As much as I like Frankie, I can't always have her being perfect and never have a rotten day even when she didn't deserve to have one, the fact of the matter is, things have to happen.
Just because she didn't deserve it doesn't mean it's a form of picking on her, Mac doesn't deserve to be picked on by Terrence but we need it as a form of balance. If you ask me, I'd rather have Frankie getting scared witless by her fake stalker then not having her involved at all.
I also don't think the episode could have worked her into the plot in any other way. The episode needed Wilt, Coco, and Ed alone to chase around Bloo and having Frankie inside wouldn't be that fun because she would have recognized Bloo on the spot.
In the end I think it's just a matter of variety that puts our characters in good and bad situations. For example, I hated how they picked on Ben in Ben10 half the time and treated him like an idiot. But at times they need to do that to make conflict, and to make things interesting for the situation.
Frankie doesn't get appreciated as much as she should, we all know that, and we all know Bloo has goodness in him though it is buried deep, deep, deep, DEEP underneath. But sometimes we need to see them go through a nightmare or two just to have variety.
I didn't feel bad for Frankie because in honesty, she did overeact. As scary as things looked she freaked out before she thought things out. Plus, I know Frankie is a sweet person at heart and even when she gets screwed like in "Imposter's", she rolls with the punches.
I imagine if they showed her afterwards she would have laughed at seeing how she wigged out over nothing, much as she admitted her mistake in "Imposter's" and apologized to Goofball. That's mainly why I also like Frankie, she doesn't hold grudges or dwell on things for long and she's mostly pretty positive.
Cassini90125
08-27-2006, 02:29 PM
"Bloooo" wasn't my favorite episode, but the whole "Frankie scared witless" thing didn't really bother me much. The episode was just a spoof of the horror movie genre, that's all. I left it at that.
billytheskink
08-27-2006, 03:10 PM
I understand, Frankie didn't really do anything deserving to get that rotten day but then again, neither did Mac when everyone came over for the slumber party for "Infernal Slumber". Or Mac ignoring Bloo in "Challenge of the superfriends".
True, but we aren't talking about those episodes.
Frankie getting treated undeservingly wasn't my beef with "Blooooo", its lack of humor in the situation was.
But then again, we have to remember that this is all part of the show. As much as I like Frankie, I can't always have her being perfect and never have a rotten day even when she didn't deserve to have one, the fact of the matter is, things have to happen.
I'm not saying her life should be perfect, I'm saying it should be entertaining. Frankie simply screaming and falling in the mud is not. It's what frames that situation that can make it entertaining. Of course, entertainment value is subjective, but do you see where I'm coming from with this?
Just because she didn't deserve it doesn't mean it's a form of picking on her, Mac doesn't deserve to be picked on by Terrence but we need it as a form of balance.
It is a form of "picking on" her, per se, used to drive the plot and create entertainment. The writers do it all the time, and it works most of the time. They didn't do so well in "Blooooo's" case.
I also don't think the episode could have worked her into the plot in any other way. The episode needed Wilt, Coco, and Ed alone to chase around Bloo and having Frankie inside wouldn't be that fun because she would have recognized Bloo on the spot.
If they can't entertainingly work her into a plot, then they don't need to include her in the episode. It is not as if she has to have a role in every episode.
But at times they need to do that to make conflict, and to make things interesting for the situation.
Agree, I'm not sure where I've said any different.
But sometimes we need to see them go through a nightmare or two just to have variety.
Variety is pointless unless it can be enjoyed.
I didn't feel bad for Frankie because in honesty, she did overeact. As scary as things looked she freaked out before she thought things out.
Fair enough; but her overreaction wasn't entertaining (and it darn well could have been) largely because there was no indication that she didn't have every right to be scared until the end.
Wilt, Coco, and Ed getting scared by a sick Bloo was funny because you knew they shouldn't have been scared.
You do find out that Frankie shouldn't have been scared at the show's end, and that too could be funny. Problem is, there is too much of Frankie getting scared in the episode to pull that off. The ending joke would have been pretty funny if it involved Frankie getting scared for a much shorter amount of time, say a 3 minute scene, and being able to react to her misconception.
Similarly, I think the running gag in "Imposter's" would be funny if it was shorter. That way Goofball's behavior wouldn't have worn out it's short welcome.
Of course, you can't build episodes around shorter gags like that.
I imagine if they showed her afterwards she would have laughed at seeing how she wigged out over nothing
and that would have made the episode much, much better. Her reacting to how wrong her presumptions were and interacting with other characters about it would have been great.
Imagine if "Imposter's" ended with Goofball revealing he was an imaginary friend and without Frankie's reaction to it. I think that would make the episode considerably worse. Frankie simply being wrong is not funny all by itself.
billytheskink
08-27-2006, 03:16 PM
And really, what irritated me about "Imposter's" more than anything else was that I figured out the ending long before it happened.
The writers tried too hard to convince the audience that Goofball was a human. They just kept reinforcing the idea so much that I thought "there's no way Goofball is what he seems to be."
Once I had figured out what was going to ultimately happen, Goofball stressing out Frankie became boring and annoying.
Also irritating was the loose end they never tied up, Goofball's homework. They explained how he wound up at Fosters, why he had a football jersey, even vaugely why he had human friends. But why would an imaginary friend have homework? Another instance of the writers trying too hard...
Mr. Marshmallow
08-27-2006, 03:38 PM
Well again just to wrap up most of the things you said, everything is in perspectives and some things don't need to be funny. How you feel is how you feel, and same to me.
I felt Frankie wasn't really picked on that badly and I do feel she was necessary be it funny or unfunny, I liked the balance of watching what was happening to Frankie and the others.
Not every episode will be super funny either. And that has to do with a person's tastes, the type of humor being used, and of course the writer's effort into making the joke worth wild. Variety can be entertaining, it's just a matter of what you find enteraining or not.
One man's trash and all that jazz. But I don't want to turn this into a fight and I don't wanna pick apart your words, nor do I think you want to pick apart mine. So in the end I think "Blooo" may not have been the funniest moment in Frankie's life, I still stand by my belief that it was picking on her.
But that's my opinion and I don't mean it disrespectfully to you billy or anyone else.
billytheskink
08-27-2006, 04:04 PM
I understand you meant no disrespect. I hope you don't think I had any intent of turning the discussion into a fight (I have no intentions of disrespect, either). I've enjoyed the discussion and seeing your perspective on the episode. I only want you to understand why I view the episode as I do, and I hope I understand why you feel differently (if you don't think I do, then please explain further). That's what message boards are for, in theory.
Now, I'm not saying that every moment of the episode has to be funny, but ideally, every moment of an episode should be entertaining. I just want to enjoy what I'm watching, whether I enjoy the show because of a joke, a facial expression, a character that looks cool, an interesting situation, or whatever.
"Blooooo" was difficult to enjoy, and if I don't enjoy watching it, then why am I watching it?
Mr. Marshmallow
08-27-2006, 04:31 PM
Well then don't watch it, I mean it's usually as simple as that but you know what i mean. I guess the reason i don't find it difficult to watch even though I love Frankie is the fact that i have this habit of trying to find the good in everything I do.
Even when I see movies I know I disliked or was upset over, I always end up trying to find the good things about it rather then the bad things. Very rarely do I ever come up to an episode or movie that I have actual difficulty watching such in the case of Foster's.
The only episode I REALLY can't stand to watch is "Duchess of Wails" because I hate how it treats Mac towards the end. "Imposters" I can take with a grain of salt, but not many times mind you. Other then that, I'm usually easy going and acceptable of almost anything I see. So maybe that's why I feel this way about "Bloooo".
billytheskink
08-27-2006, 05:30 PM
Now that's a good thought. I can see where you are coming from, or at least I think I can.
I certainly didn't let my disatisfaction with much of "Blooooo" keep me from laughing at the funny parts ("cannonball ghost" hehehehehehe). I'll applaud the Foster's crew for the good parts of any episode, but I see no reason not to express my dissatisfaction with other parts.
Foster's a great show, and when I see a Foster's episode that isn't very entertaining I feel compelled to say so. I'll give them credit for the things they did well in such an episode, but I'll also comment on what they could have done better. They can do and have done much better than they did with "Blooooo"; when they come up short I want them to do better. I don't want to stop watching the show when I know that the folks who make it are capable of making it something I'd watch over anything else.
Now, you mention "Duchess of Wails" and how you didn't like the way Mac was treated toward the end. Are you refering to him getting pelted with fruits and vegetables or him having to wake up Duchess every morning?
I think that episode can provoke some very interesting discussion.
Mr. Marshmallow
08-27-2006, 05:34 PM
Primarily at the end when he was being pelted.
Waking up with Duchess is more like a comic gag idea, where I found the ending to be well...depressing.
It's just hard to watch someone go through with that. With Frankie in "Bloooo" she could have saved her self a world of grief if she calmed down and looked at things rationally.
billytheskink
08-27-2006, 07:09 PM
Primarily at the end when he was being pelted.
Waking up with Duchess is more like a comic gag idea, where I found the ending to be well...depressing.
It's just hard to watch someone go through with that. With Frankie in "Bloooo" she could have saved her self a world of grief if she calmed down and looked at things rationally.
I see.
It's true that Frankie could have (and should have) calmed down and put on her rationality glasses. I think it's easy to see why she didn't, though. Most folks I know would not act rationally if they were spooked and caught out in the rain. It's a very human reaction by Frankie; not very fun to watch, but fairly realistic at the least.
As for "Duchess of Wails"...
I always took the scenes of Mac getting pelted with produce to be a parody of the "epic" battle scenes in those fantasy movies. The fact that the imaginary friends were "defending" the house with produce was kind of funny. I suppose seeing Madame Foster directing an "army" was also supposed to be silly.
I can see why you didn't like it. I'd liken your opinion of that scene in "Duchess of Wails" to my take on Frankie's freak-out in "Blooooo", if I may.
Mr. Marshmallow
08-27-2006, 08:48 PM
I'm a little tired tonight so I can't really stretch this out as long as you may want it billy but here's what I got:
The thing with Frankie that didn't bother me as much as it did with Mac was because, Frankie is one an adult and someone who deals with hard crap in her life on a regular basis. Working for Herriman is no doubt a stressful expierence, but she manages to get by.
Seeing her think that friend was a monster or a killer is something we would all typically do, unless we tried to calm down a bit. We fear that situation because we don't know what's out there or who is out there, with "Wails" that wasn't the case.
While I am not doubting nor am I disregarding the obvious comedic elements to beating someone with a barrage of fruits, it's still a form of "attacking". And to me, seeing Mac getting so intently smashed and "forced" away from Foster's was kind of hurting.
Fruit or no fruit, it's a terribly hurtful expierence to have the friends and loved ones of your life try so hard to keep you from coming back. Like when Goo first arrived and Mac was being asked not to come back to Foster's because of his "relation" to her.
Which I felt was unfair seeing as how Mac NEVER said Goo was his girlfriend, and he was being blamed for a girl beyond his (and I imagine her parents) control. Anyways my point is that Frankie was scarred, it's a crappy thing to have happen to you but people get over getting freaked out.
It's easier because it happens on accident, in the movies, in TV and etc. Getting told verbally or physically (fruitfully in this case) to stay away by your friends who are working with your worst enemy, Terrence, that just hurts. Or at least that's the way I saw it.
It's more along the lines of seeing your friends turn against you being damaging and pain, that's how I feel about it.
Medikor
08-28-2006, 07:59 AM
I'm thinking people may be going a little deeper into these events then the writters intended. The big battle in "Whales" was a parody of the battle of helms deep in the Lord of the rings the two towrs. They werant out to give Frankie a hard time in "Bloooo", she just worked for that episodes subplot. And I found it very funny to watch. Probobly because I would react the same way she did.
billytheskink
08-28-2006, 10:13 AM
I'm a little tired tonight so I can't really stretch this out as long as you may want it billy but here's what I got:
The thing with Frankie that didn't bother me as much as it did with Mac was because, Frankie is one an adult and someone who deals with hard crap in her life on a regular basis. Working for Herriman is no doubt a stressful expierence, but she manages to get by.
Seeing her think that friend was a monster or a killer is something we would all typically do, unless we tried to calm down a bit. We fear that situation because we don't know what's out there or who is out there, with "Wails" that wasn't the case.
While I am not doubting nor am I disregarding the obvious comedic elements to beating someone with a barrage of fruits, it's still a form of "attacking". And to me, seeing Mac getting so intently smashed and "forced" away from Foster's was kind of hurting.
Fruit or no fruit, it's a terribly hurtful expierence to have the friends and loved ones of your life try so hard to keep you from coming back. Like when Goo first arrived and Mac was being asked not to come back to Foster's because of his "relation" to her.
Which I felt was unfair seeing as how Mac NEVER said Goo was his girlfriend, and he was being blamed for a girl beyond his (and I imagine her parents) control. Anyways my point is that Frankie was scarred, it's a crappy thing to have happen to you but people get over getting freaked out.
It's easier because it happens on accident, in the movies, in TV and etc. Getting told verbally or physically (fruitfully in this case) to stay away by your friends who are working with your worst enemy, Terrence, that just hurts. Or at least that's the way I saw it.
It's more along the lines of seeing your friends turn against you being damaging and pain, that's how I feel about it.
You stretched that out fine, gave me plenty of insight anyway. And really, for the most part, I agree with you.
Now, I see that the situations are different. But it seems that you don't enjoy the latter part of "Duchess of Wails" for ultimately the same reason I dislike most of "Blooooo"; we both find those respective parts difficult to watch, we don't enjoy watching them.
In that way, I think, our opinions are similar.
Now, if they'd just hurry up and start showing new episodes we could talk about what Frankie did in them. Rehashing is fun, but one can only do so much, ya know?
Mr. Marshmallow
08-28-2006, 03:45 PM
I guess it was just the whole idea of everyone you know and love turning against you that sounded worse to me, at least Frankie's incident was more "self done" if that makes any sense. But I do think we have gotten a bit off track.
In any case, the reason this thread was made was to talk about Frankie and that's what I want to do now. Bare in mind I did enjoy our discussions billy. I love Frankie because for one thing, I think she's a truly admirable character with a down right sweet yet wacky adorableness to her.
While I would much rather see her be happy then hassled, I can't help but laugh at her amusing banter and screaming matches with Herriman. And I think her zero tolerance in dealing with Herriman is what gives her some of her charm.
I think she's funny, kind, but also down right attractive. I was right there with Mac and Bloo when she came down in "Frankie my dear", it's amazing what a new wardrobe can to do someone. I also find it funny that Frankie is awfully mature for someone of her young age.
I'm EXACTLY her same age and I'm no where near as responsible or as amazingly well balanced as she is. She's more mature then her own grandmother, which is funny considering her grandma is down right bonkers. But anyways, I'm glad Frankie has become more involved in the show.
Even if she's getting scared out of her panties in "Bloooo" or repeatively getting soup splashed in her face in "Bus the two of us", it's nice to see her taking a more active and apparant role in the show, much like Goo and Cheese. Although those two are mostly due to their popuarlity due to their insanity.
billytheskink
08-28-2006, 08:52 PM
I enjoyed the discussion as well. Thanks for letting me bounce my opinions off you; glad you enjoyed the conversation as well.
Medikor
08-29-2006, 06:55 AM
So thats two of us who are the same age as Frankie and have a special place in our hearts for her... Shall I recomend pistols at dawn?8D
Kzinistzerg
08-29-2006, 08:09 AM
Pshhhh, you're going to end up with an army at dawn, from the percentages I've seen...
Cassini90125
08-29-2006, 08:16 AM
We will be the silent majority no longer... ;)
Medikor
08-29-2006, 08:21 AM
LOL! Many would say we are pretty sad to find a cartoon character attractive! But I say it's a testimet to her wonderful character. Her personality is wonderful, and she's even a beuty. But Grey Delisale is certainly a big part of Frankie's appeal. Her performance and voice are perfect for the role.
billytheskink
08-29-2006, 08:51 AM
We will be the silent majority no longer... ;)
what do we have to be noisy about?
Cassini90125
08-29-2006, 09:02 AM
what do we have to be noisy about?
I just think she's worth celebrating. :D
Medikor
08-29-2006, 11:52 AM
Definatly!:D
Sparky
08-29-2006, 03:32 PM
We will be the silent majority no longer... ;)
You'd be quieter if you switched to crossbows. ;D
Mr. Marshmallow
08-29-2006, 03:33 PM
LOL! Many would say we are pretty sad to find a cartoon character attractive! But I say it's a testimet to her wonderful character. Her personality is wonderful, and she's even a beuty.
I find it amusing that people consider us to be sad at finding an animated character attractive, when in fact, history has been laced with cartoons designed to draw sex appeal. Frankie is no different, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it's no different then finding a comic book character attractive.
Consider Minerva Mink from Animaniacs, or Lola Bunny from Space Jam (Looney Tunes) and tell me how an obvious sexual appeal can't be noticed in the way they are drawn? Or want a better example? Jessica Rabbit, nuff said! A fantasy is just that, a fantasy and there's no harm in having one unless it causes harm to someone.
Frankie isn't the first toon (if you consider this style of animation to be "toony") that I've found attraction in, but again like you said Medi, alot of it has to do with Frankie's personality and the fact she's just such a generally sweet nature to her. She's always been friendly and supportive with Mac.
I say there's nothing wrong with loving something or someone, be it fictional or factual, unless it's causing some kind of harm to someone else. Otherwise, keep those praises coming ^^.
InsaneFan
08-29-2006, 04:15 PM
Phew! I finally read the last 7 pages.
Also irritating was the loose end they never tied up, Goofball's homework. They explained how he wound up at Fosters, why he had a football jersey, even vaugely why he had human friends. But why would an imaginary friend have homework? Another instance of the writers trying too hard...
It wasn't homework, he was trying to figure out which train would get him back home the fastest! Frankie just assumed it was homework because of how he said it...Plus the fact that word problems in math sound like that.
And why do you guys say that Goofball was a jerk? I, personally, don't think so...Though I probably shouldn't've said that. XD What with your army of crossbow-wielding fans....
Cassini90125
08-29-2006, 05:07 PM
And why do you guys say that Goofball was a jerk? I, personally, don't think so...Though I probably shouldn't've said that. XD What with your army of crossbow-wielding fans....
Watch the episode again. I only call him a jerk because Forum Rules prohibit me from calling him something a bit more descriptive. ;)
Mr. Marshmallow
08-29-2006, 05:57 PM
Goofball isn't a jerk...he's a "EXPLICIT DELETED".
No just kidding, but the reason he is by all accounts a jerk was because he purposely and I repeat PURPOSELY went out of his way to bug the crap out of Frankie. Bloo has never been as lazy, rude, or insensitive to people's feelings as Goofball is. Don't get me wrong, Bloo can be a real pain, no doubt.
But Goofball knew he was being rude to Frankie and he did everything that would set her off, just minutes after she fixed/cleaned something. Frankie was harped on by everyone (even though she was wrong in the end), it wasn't right for everyone to so quickly doubt her or to think she was slacking off.
Herriman, I can see. I am not surprised by his behavior in the least bit but everyone else was a surprise. The set up was obviously to shock us all into realizing that Goofball IS an imaginary friend, but that doesn't change the manner in which he treated Frankie or how he so carelessly aggravated her.
His species doesn't change his attitude. There are good people and bad people in the world, imaginary friends are no different. Look at Bendy.
billytheskink
08-29-2006, 06:06 PM
It wasn't homework, he was trying to figure out which train would get him back home the fastest! Frankie just assumed it was homework because of how he said it...Plus the fact that word problems in math sound like that.
my mistake then. Canadian accents sound funny to folks like me from down southways, so I guess I misheard.
A good example of how the writers tried too hard to convince the viewer he was not an imaginary friend, though.
Cassini90125
08-29-2006, 06:07 PM
Very well said, Mr. Marshmallow. There was a lot of inexcusable behaviour in that episode. To this day I can't bear to watch it again. :(
Mr. Marshmallow
08-29-2006, 06:30 PM
I agree, it's hard to take that episode without grinding your teeth or just feeling bad for her. Like I said with the whole "Bloooo" episode issue, Frankie was treated badly by a BAD person and even though she made mistakes in both episodes, the guy tormenting her in "Bloooo" wasn't reallying trying to.
That was partly her fault where as this was all squared firmly on Goofball. But Frankie is a strong person and a sweet one at that, she gets peeved and loses it from time to time but as you can see, she isn't the type of person to take it personally. Even when Bloo ruined her date in "Frankie my Dear".
She's good as gold inside and that's one of the reasons why I like her and Mac so much, because they both are really decent people. Even Goo in her youthful ignorance can be down right rude or annoying sometimes, but Mac and especially Frankie are by nature sweet and very kind and caring people.
Kzinistzerg
08-29-2006, 08:32 PM
Well the difference is that Bloo dosn't intend to hurt people, he's just so fixated at whatever whim entered his head at the moment that it completely fails to occur to him that something else is going on. Goofball is just... well he acts like my brother at his worst.I mean really atcs like my brother, who will to this day make dirty dishes and laundry, kick me off the computer crush my legos and make me get stuff for him (I've stopped objecting, but i'm ready to cheer as he's going off to california for winemaking and i'll never ever ever see him again muahahahaha! Where was i?)
InsaneFan
08-30-2006, 08:03 AM
Watch the episode again.
But I don't want to. :P
billytheskink
08-30-2006, 08:16 AM
But Frankie is a strong person and a sweet one at that, she gets peeved and loses it from time to time but as you can see, she isn't the type of person to take it personally. Even when Bloo ruined her date in "Frankie my Dear".
Indeed. My personal favorite example of this is from "Busted". Upon discovering that Bloo and the gang had been responsible for all the messes she'd had to clean up, she responds with "Guys, this isn't cool..."
That's all? It just isn't cool? That's an awful nice response, I'd say.
It was funny as well.
BlooCheese
08-30-2006, 11:44 AM
Indeed. My personal favorite example of this is from "Busted". Upon discovering that Bloo and the gang had been responsible for all the messes she'd had to clean up, she responds with "Guys, this isn't cool..."
That's all? It just isn't cool? That's an awful nice response, I'd say.
It was funny as well.
And that's what makes Frankie so awesome. She could've said, "How could you guys do this to me?! I hate you all!" and run off to cry in her room. But she didn't.
Voxxyn
08-30-2006, 01:30 PM
LOL! Many would say we are pretty sad to find a cartoon character attractive! But I say it's a testimet to her wonderful character. Her personality is wonderful, and she's even a beauty.
In my opinion, Frankie is far more appealing to me than most fictional female characters I've seen, in animation AND live-action. Her attractiveness is something that is very genuine and wholesome while still being downright foxy, instead of being a cynical attempt at pandering to the lowest common denominator.
And Frankie is vulnerable. Even though she's one of the show's most level-headed characters and can be the "beacon of reason" when needed, she is also fallible and, as we now know, very prone to getting "the short end of the stick", even when it's completely uncalled for. Believe it or not, I find that refreshing. I HATE it when females are portrayed by the mass media as being completely infallible and goddess-like, and I LIKE that she doesn't get special treatment by the writers just because of her gender... even though it's a character I love and care about.
kageri
08-30-2006, 01:39 PM
I agree, it doesn't seem that there's much between "Princess Peach-esque damsel in distress" and "I am STROOOONG, I am INVINCIBLLLE" female characters and Frankie is a perfect balance. She's like a real person, instead of the writers trying to make her a butt-kicking.... something.... just so she can appeal to feminists and pervy guys alike.
Cyburn
08-30-2006, 01:47 PM
I like Frankie, shes attractive, but still has a personality :-* unlike many attractive girls in cartoons.
billytheskink
08-30-2006, 07:59 PM
She's like a real person,
which is why she's so entertaining.
It's not easy to create such a human character in fiction.
Medikor
08-31-2006, 09:57 AM
And that also goes to show how talanted the writers of the show are. I actually daydream of what it would be like if I ended up working at Fosters (if it were real ofcoarse) and how I would interact with the characters.
I could see myself actually being the peace-keeper between Frankie and Harriman. Getting between them and trying to find a happy mediam in whatever they are arguing about.
I could see myself insisting on doing the jobs Frankie would rather not do (clean the toilets and stables) and takeing her out of the house if things get too heated. I would just try to give her the slack she desrves.
About the only character I probobly would have trouble getting along with is Bloo, but I would try anyway. Wilt, Co-co, Edwardo, Mac and Frankie would all be easy to get along with. I think I would get along well enough with Harriman. He reminds me of my grandfather. Bloo would just need alot of care. The slightest thing could set him off.8D
InsaneFan
08-31-2006, 10:39 AM
I actually daydream of what it would be like if I ended up working at Fosters (if it were real ofcoarse) and how I would interact with the characters.
Don't we all? :bloogrin
Cassini90125
08-31-2006, 10:41 AM
I certainly do. :frankiesmile:
Mr. Marshmallow
08-31-2006, 03:00 PM
I sure would, that would be LOADS of fun but I think I'd probably end up like Medikor said and having to seperate Frankie and Herriman when they start getting antsy at each other. I would also try and help Frankie out with the cleaning, not only cause I DO in fact like to clean but also for brownie points :-* .
I would have no problem with Wilt, Mac, Eduardo, or Coco (unless I can't learn her language). Bloo would be a problem and I think even the most patient person can lose his/her cool around him. He's loads of fun but I think if anyone was working there like Frankie is, I doubt we could tolerate him for very long.
Watching him is one thing, but actually LIVING with him and cleaning up after someone as messy, crazy, and troublesome as Bloo is another. It's amazing Frankie puts up with it as well as she does.
Medikor
08-31-2006, 03:11 PM
Well... I wouldant just help Frankie out because it's just the right thing to do, but because it would be a sudtle way to win her heart. ;)
Mr. Marshmallow
08-31-2006, 03:36 PM
Well... I wouldant just help Frankie out because it's just the right thing to do, but because it would be a sudtle way to win her heart. ;)
That's kind of what I meant with the brownie points and all ^_^ I'm on the same page.
Medikor
08-31-2006, 03:43 PM
:D Great minds think alike, I guess. At least we're not Jerks like that guy she dated in "Frankie my Dear".
And Madam Foster would be a hoot and a half! She reminds me of my own grammother. By the way: What episode did Frankie wear that green puffy dress in you're sig? She look unhappy in it, but she looks cute!
pitbulllady
08-31-2006, 04:41 PM
:D Great minds think alike, I guess. At least we're not Jerks like that guy she dated in "Frankie my Dear".
And Madam Foster would be a hoot and a half! She reminds me of my own grammother. By the way: What episode did Frankie wear that green puffy dress in you're sig? She look unhappy in it, but she looks cute!
Frankie wore that green puffy "little girl" dress in "The Big Picture" because her grandmother made her dress like that for the annual photo.
pitbulllady
Medikor
08-31-2006, 05:10 PM
Well, she made it look good. But I still like her casual, everyday look the best.
Cassini90125
08-31-2006, 05:52 PM
Well, she made it look good. But I still like her casual, everyday look the best.
You and me both. It just looks, I don't know, so "right" on her. :frankiesmile:
Medikor
08-31-2006, 08:03 PM
Not that the dosen't look good in her dresses from "Frankie my dear". ;)
Cassini90125
08-31-2006, 08:09 PM
Can't argue with that. Her Sim looked pretty amazing in some similar outfits I found. I'd enjoy seeing her in something different occasionally, but her original outfit will always be my favorite. :frankiesmile:
Mr. Marshmallow
08-31-2006, 08:35 PM
No doubt about it, her original outfit is hard to compete with. It's casual yet nice looking, and very "friendly/family feeling" if you know what I mean. But yes Medi like Pitbulllady said, that dress was worn during the photo episode "The Big Picture".
I thought Frankie was irish or something when I first saw that dress, it just sort of came to mind when I looked at it. Madame Foster made Frankie wear that dress for every family photo for each year. And I agree, she looked cute as hell in it. But her "date" dress whoooo now THAT'S a keeper.
Something funny I noticed about that episode. Frankie seemed very nervous about her date, like she was really into him and like she was very scared of losing him at first. I wonder if Frankie is "nervous" about dating, or maybe she's scared of not finding Mr. right.
It just struck me as weird because Frankie has NEVER been scared about anything like this. Even after all the crap that occurs with Herriman, Bloo, and the others, she seemed generally cautious and nervous like she was really looking forward to dating a decent guy.
We all know in the end he WASN'T but my point being, I wonder if Frankie really wants a boyfriend.
Cassini90125
08-31-2006, 08:52 PM
I'll volunteer for that job right now. The rest of you, go home. ;D
Seriously though, I think it was just a case of first-date jitters. Plus she was probably excited to be going out at all; with all the work she does around the house, I doubt she has much time or energy left at the end of most days. A date would likely be a real treat for her. Too bad she ended up with such a jerk.
Mr. Marshmallow
08-31-2006, 08:57 PM
I'll volunteer for that job right now. The rest of you, go home. ;D
Hey, the line starts behind me first :blooevil: heh. And judging by most people's feelings towards Frankie, that line probably wraps around the block a couple times too.
Cassini90125
08-31-2006, 09:10 PM
Unfortunately, not everybody is all that fond of her. There are fanfics galore, and an occasional post here and there, that are quite negative. I can't understand why. She's such a sweetheart.
Medikor
08-31-2006, 09:18 PM
If she was nervous of anything it was probobly haveing to tell her dates of her life with Fosters. All those imaginary friends and responsabillitys, it's like a single mother trying to find a guy who dosen't mind the "extras".
Cassini90125
08-31-2006, 09:37 PM
I can think of a few people who'd be willing to put up with the "extras". We know she's worth it. :)
pitbulllady
09-01-2006, 11:16 AM
No doubt about it, her original outfit is hard to compete with. It's casual yet nice looking, and very "friendly/family feeling" if you know what I mean. But yes Medi like Pitbulllady said, that dress was worn during the photo episode "The Big Picture".
I thought Frankie was irish or something when I first saw that dress, it just sort of came to mind when I looked at it. Madame Foster made Frankie wear that dress for every family photo for each year. And I agree, she looked cute as hell in it. But her "date" dress whoooo now THAT'S a keeper.
Something funny I noticed about that episode. Frankie seemed very nervous about her date, like she was really into him and like she was very scared of losing him at first. I wonder if Frankie is "nervous" about dating, or maybe she's scared of not finding Mr. right.
It just struck me as weird because Frankie has NEVER been scared about anything like this. Even after all the crap that occurs with Herriman, Bloo, and the others, she seemed generally cautious and nervous like she was really looking forward to dating a decent guy.
We all know in the end he WASN'T but my point being, I wonder if Frankie really wants a boyfriend.
I doubt that Dylan Lee was Frankie's first date ever, since she probably was quite popular in college, but since she now works at Foster's, and taking care of Imaginary Friends is her career, she has to be a realist. Few guys are going to understand her passion about her career, or even that she still basically lives at home with her grandmother. Her situation is going to not only put a damper on her free time(which you need a lot of for a successful relationship), but pretty much stigmatizes her as "strange", to many of her peers. I'm sure that Frankie knows this, and is aware that even if she DOES meet "Mr. Right", KEEPING him is going to be a much greater challenge, and finding someone who understands, appreciates, and will remain happy with her career and her genuine love of Imaginary Friends, and the time constraints placed on her by her job, is going to be next to impossible. I do NOT believe that Frankie is the sort of woman who is just looking for a "one night stand", or a "weekend Romeo", either. She is the sort who believes in committment, firmly, since she herself is so committed to what she does.
pitbulllady
Mr. Marshmallow
09-01-2006, 12:12 PM
No I agree on the non "one night stand" bit, she's not that kind of person who'd just pick up the first guy that's datable and then dump him over the weekend. In regards to the fan fics thing, I haven't really come across any negative slashing about her and I too am surprised, she IS such a sweetheart!
The only thing I've ever seen in fics about Frankie is using her in a romance relationship with either Herriman or Mac. Herriman is just gross in that idea, and as weird as it sounds, i have seen good representations (as well as bad) on the issue of a 8 year old liking a 22 year old woman.
But that's another issue entirely. The reason I say she might have been nervous is because as nice as she may seem, we really have no idea if she's been on dates before, we can only assume and guess. Frankie's social and school life are pretty much up for grabs in the guessing game.
We know little about her background or her family outside of Madame Foster, hell, we don't even know who her parents are, or if they're alive or not. When comic con 2007 comes around, I'm going there and I'd like to go to the Foster's panel and ask em about that personally.
Medikor
09-01-2006, 01:09 PM
If Frankie was real, I probobly wouldan't have a chance to woo her. I'm not the most handsom guy around, I could stand to lose a pound or two and I'm not someone who realy likes to go out on the town. Ofcourse, if I met Frankie I would make the effort and I really respect people who do things similarly to Frankie (Retirment homes, orphanages ect) and I would love to get to visit a home of imaginary friends.:bloosmirk:
What I find interesting to think about is: What would it be like if Frankie decided to start a family? Would she wait untill she's around her mid thirties to have a kid? Would she take a break from her job to raise a kid, or do both at once? Would she hold her wedding at Fosters with all the imaginary friends?
These are things I like to think about, but we likely won't get an answer since the show wouldant touch anything that deep.:(
Frankie doesn't strike me as one to ever settle down, although I'm sure she'd have no trouble finding someone. And when it comes to children, she already has over 1000 kids, and I just don't think she'd need any more as long as she's working at Foster's.
But, if she ever did want a kid, I'd like to think she'd adopt. :D
kageri
09-01-2006, 01:22 PM
Would she hold her wedding at Fosters with all the imaginary friends?
Considering the chaos having all the IFs at her wedding would entail (I can imagine Bloo would pick their tearful wedding vows as the moment to loudly proclaim how boring this is and when are they going to bring out the cake already), I do believe that is a fantastic idea.
Medikor
09-01-2006, 01:35 PM
Either way, Frankie would make a wonderful mother.:D
Cassini90125
09-01-2006, 03:16 PM
Either way, Frankie would make a wonderful mother.:D
Absolutely. Anyone who's seen her at work on the series, seen her caring side, can attest to that. The part where she was taking care of the infant IF's in "Imposter's" always comes to mind when I think about Frankie as a mom.
Voxxyn
09-01-2006, 03:42 PM
I can't see myself romantically linked to Frankie either. I'm quite introverted, have Asperger's Syndrome, not very physically handsome nor outgoing and, quite frankly, have absolutely no interest to get involved in relationships or dating anytime soon, especially seeing as how vapid and trivialized these things have become thanks to our MTV-minded culture.
That said, I admire her to no end. Being an introvert also means that I know all-too-well of what it's like to be a social outcast; and this show is primarily about imaginary friends who are abandoned because it's deemed culturally unacceptable upon reaching a certain age in the show's universe. Because of that, I just can't help but love Frankie for being so dedicated towards the well-being of living entities that are most likely looked down upon by general society, especially "hip" youngsters(Including those idiot "macho men" who would otherwise have no trouble making her their "trophy girlfriend"). Such dedication and compassion adds much depth of purity to her external attractiveness, I think.
Whether or not I'd ever be with Frankie(if she were real) doesn't matter to me. What I want is for her to continue being the wonderful, refreshing, three-dimensional, flawed-yet-goldhearted character she is.
Kzinistzerg
09-01-2006, 05:03 PM
You have... whatnow?
I think Frankie would adopt... but it's also possible she'd have kids of her own, too.
Sims Katie
09-01-2006, 05:10 PM
Would she hold her wedding at Fosters with all the imaginary friends?
I think she would. She grew up in Foster's, surrounded by all the friends. They're her family, they'd be there. Also, weddings are expensive. Why not have it at Foster's? Its a big house with a kitchen designed for large output, lots of room, expansive lawn and gardens. And its free.
Mr. Marshmallow
09-01-2006, 07:19 PM
I think everyone should really stop selling themselves so short and realize what it is your saying. First off, if anyone on this board knows ANYTHING about Frankie then you should know that looks aren't everything, she cares what's INSIDE.
Hell, she proved it after she dumped that schmuck of a boyfriend after he ripped on Mac and Bloo. Frankie isn't after macho types or super hero romeo types or anything like that, why do you think she didn't fall for that prince charming imaginary friend?
The fact that everyone says how sweet and caring she is leads me to believe that if she truly liked or loved someone, looks or weight or any of that stuff would be the least of her worries. Frankie lives to care and Mac and the others know it.
I too think Frankie is a bit too spirited to settle down now, but down the line I could easily see her wanting to get married and of COURSE having it at Foster's. I could so see Wilt being the priest, and Bloo being put as the flower girl for kicks 8D.
If Frankie did get married, odds are she'd want a kid of her own rather then adopt but I still think she'd stay close to Foster's and either still live in it or near by it. Foster's is her life and she's not gonna give that up until the day she dies.
Considering how dedicated she is to her job, I'd say that much is certain. I don't think Frankie would have any problem getting romantically involved with anyone, because we know what kind of person she is and what matters most to her. If you really think Frankie would judge you on looks or weight, then you don't really know her at all.
Medikor
09-01-2006, 07:53 PM
Thing is... I kinda don't know her at all because I've only seen a handful of the episodes. Teletoon is awful about that.:(
I see Frankie takeing Madam Fosters place as head-honcho and Mac takeing her old job. That just seems like the natural coarse of things.
billytheskink
09-01-2006, 09:15 PM
well, she did dump that animated version of Sam Hornish Jr.
If she dumps a professional race car driver, then, shucks.... I just wanted to say that
Sims Katie
09-01-2006, 09:16 PM
I too think Frankie is a bit too spirited to settle down now, but down the line I could easily see her wanting to get married and of COURSE having it at Foster's. I could so see Wilt being the priest, and Bloo being put as the flower girl for kicks 8D.Well, I could see Wilt giving her away . You have to have a license to marry people, and he's not a cleric, justice of the peace or ship's captain as far as we've seen :P
Bloo could be the ring bearer (and probably lose the rings, on top of it. Or try to use them in the arcade machines)
If you really think Frankie would judge you on looks or weight, then you don't really know her at all.Absolutely. She can be touchy about her own weight, of course. But when it comes to other people, no way.
Medikor
09-02-2006, 05:40 AM
That's something I love about Frankie's character designe. She's not skinny. You can see that she's a healthy weight and not a toothpick. :)
kageri
09-02-2006, 09:58 AM
That's something I love about Frankie's character designe. She's not skinny. You can see that she's a healthy weight and not a toothpick. :)
Except for her legs. The leeegs!
Kzinistzerg
09-02-2006, 06:13 PM
Well her legs are roughly the width of a drinking straw but besides that...
LaBlooGirl
09-03-2006, 07:19 AM
If Frankie was real, I probobly wouldan't have a chance to woo her. I'm not the most handsom guy around, I could stand to lose a pound or two and I'm not someone who realy likes to go out on the town. Ofcourse, if I met Frankie I would make the effort and I really respect people who do things similarly to Frankie (Retirment homes, orphanages ect) and I would love to get to visit a home of imaginary friends.:bloosmirk:
What I find interesting to think about is: What would it be like if Frankie decided to start a family? Would she wait untill she's around her mid thirties to have a kid? Would she take a break from her job to raise a kid, or do both at once? Would she hold her wedding at Fosters with all the imaginary friends?
These are things I like to think about, but we likely won't get an answer since the show wouldant touch anything that deep.:(
You know I always thought Frankie would get married, but she wouldn't move away. If anything, she'd find someone who would live with her the house, or at least close-by, so that she could stay at Foster's. I mean she's been there long enough as it is. ;) I think those like Wilt and Ed would miss her terribly if she went far away anyhow.
And if she had kids, I could just see Wilt babysitting. LOL :D (He'd make a great father-figure anyhow.)
Medikor
09-03-2006, 10:53 AM
Thats how I picture it. Frnakie's husband moveing into Fosters would be nice.
pitbulllady
09-03-2006, 02:45 PM
You know I always thought Frankie would get married, but she wouldn't move away. If anything, she'd find someone who would live with her the house, or at least close-by, so that she could stay at Foster's. I mean she's been there long enough as it is. ;) I think those like Wilt and Ed would miss her terribly if she went far away anyhow.
And if she had kids, I could just see Wilt babysitting. LOL :D (He'd make a great father-figure anyhow.)
That's why I believe that Wilt would make a great HUSBAND-he's ALREADY at Foster's, he understands Frankie's job and her passion for what she does, he's got that parenting thing already down-pact(something a lot of men never do get the hang of), he has no problem with the "C word"("committment"), he is patient and compassionate, he does not have issues with house-cleaning, he can fix up cars(trust me on the importance of having a guy around who can do THAT), he can dance like nobody's business...I could go on and on. Frankie is simply not going to find another guy who who can do all that Wilt can do AND be willing to live at Foster's and give up some of the time that they could spend together so that Frankie can take care of a bunch of Imaginary Friends. A lot might SAY they are willing at first, but after awhile, when reality sinks in, they will either start bugging her about moving out, or they will start having interest in other women on the side. I seriously doubt that Frankie would EVER have to worry about Wilt doing THAT, at least.
pitbulllady
Mr. Marshmallow
09-03-2006, 02:57 PM
I don't think Wilt's the only "one" out there who will understand Frankie's needs. There's someone out there for everyone and even if they don't see eye to eye on everything, if the couple really cares for each other, they will be willing to make compromises and help what's most important to each other.
Frankie doesn't have to live at Foster's forever to be there for them, she just needs to live relatively close by. Any guy who hooks up with her will find it hard not to notice her love for taking care of imaginary friends. And if he truly does like Frankie for who she is, he'd accept her job as a part of who she is.
You don't have to be imagined up to be the right guy (or girl) for someone, all you need is heart, understanding, and above all be yourself.
pitbulllady
09-03-2006, 03:22 PM
I don't think Wilt's the only "one" out there who will understand Frankie's needs. There's someone out there for everyone and even if they don't see eye to eye on everything, if the couple really cares for each other, they will be willing to make compromises and help what's most important to each other.
Frankie doesn't have to live at Foster's forever to be there for them, she just needs to live relatively close by. Any guy who hooks up with her will find it hard not to notice her love for taking care of imaginary friends. And if he truly does like Frankie for who she is, he'd accept her job as a part of who she is.
You don't have to be imagined up to be the right guy (or girl) for someone, all you need is heart, understanding, and above all be yourself.
I've spent the better part of the last 20 years looking for that someone, and if he's out there, he's living at the bottom of the ocean under a rock or something! Take it from somebody who's played that game, it is NOT easy finding that "perfect somebody", IF they even exist at all! It's all nice and sweet to believe that they're out there, somewhere, and it's all a matter of time before Fate brings you together, but one look at the divorce rates, coupled with enough time and experience, will usually burst that bubble. I KNOW from experience how hard it is to find somebody, and I've since given up the search. Frankie's case is gonna be even tougher than mine, since she lives at home with her grandmother and has a job which not only is demanding, but extremely unique. Sure, there are plenty of guys who will claim that they understand and can deal with it, but as the old saying goes, when the going gets tough, the tough get going! Been There, Done THAT, so I know just how empty those promises can be, and what a difficult task Frankie would have in finding someone who really MEANS what they say, and won't back down from their promises.
pitbulllady
Cassini90125
09-03-2006, 04:23 PM
I've spent the better part of the last 20 years looking for that someone, and if he's out there, he's living at the bottom of the ocean under a rock or something! Take it from somebody who's played that game, it is NOT easy finding that "perfect somebody", IF they even exist at all! It's all nice and sweet to believe that they're out there, somewhere, and it's all a matter of time before Fate brings you together, but one look at the divorce rates, coupled with enough time and experience, will usually burst that bubble. I KNOW from experience how hard it is to find somebody, and I've since given up the search. Frankie's case is gonna be even tougher than mine, since she lives at home with her grandmother and has a job which not only is demanding, but extremely unique. Sure, there are plenty of guys who will claim that they understand and can deal with it, but as the old saying goes, when the going gets tough, the tough get going! Been There, Done THAT, so I know just how empty those promises can be, and what a difficult task Frankie would have in finding someone who really MEANS what they say, and won't back down from their promises.
pitbulllady
I trust you'll understand if I'm feeling more than a little insulted. Given the opportunity, I can and will gladly do everything you said above about Wilt for the right woman. As far as I'm concerned, Frankie is that woman. I understand what you're saying, as I've been looking just as long as you and have also given up the search, but your experiences have nothing to do with me, and you have no right to make such assumptions about me or anyone else. I know what kind of a man I am, I know what I'm capable of and what's in my heart, and I say to you, put me in that house with all those crazy, messy Imaginary Friends and the woman I love. You may deliver your apology to our grandchildren.
kageri
09-03-2006, 05:13 PM
Not to mention Frankie doesn't seem like she's looking for that special someone, at least not now.
Voxxyn
09-03-2006, 05:24 PM
About the whole "how Frankie judges others" thing, maybe I should make myself clear: I never said she'd judge people by mere surface aspects, AND DO NOT BELIEVE IT AT ALL. If she really were that shallow, I wouldn't like her at all.
My main emphasis was on the fact that I'm introverted and an "Aspie"(slang for Asperger's), which has to do with my PERSONALITY, making me quite socially awkward... and then(which maybe I should've cited as well) there's her rather unique job. Even if Frankie loved me enough to want to be my wife(As opposed to the more plausible scenario of her simply liking me and wanting to be my friend) and I chose to move in to live at Foster's(which I'd do GLADLY)--I nonetheless wouldn't last long trying to help with her chores. Sure, I'd stick it out and remain 100% loyal to her... but I'd probably collapse.
But that's if I WANTED to be in a relationship with her. The fact is, I don't want to, it's just not for me. If she were real, I'd be more than happy with just being good friends with her, helping her out once in a while, and being thrilled at the fact that she accepts me for who I am. I'll let Cassini have Frankie "all to himself", since he's a far bigger fan than I'll ever be ;)
Mr. Marshmallow
09-03-2006, 05:31 PM
In regards to both what Cassi and Pitbull lady said, just because Fate has someone for you, doesn't necessarily mean that person is going to come when you want them to. I have been on the same railroad you've guys have been on, and I've been run over more times then i have been picked up.
Life isn't a cartoon, it's hard, it's painful, it's difficult, and it's complicated. But if there's one thing I've learned from all my years living and watching into fantasy worlds, it's that giving up is NEVER the answer. The road of love is hard and a pain in the ass, let's be honest, but that doesn't mean it's not worth walking.
Frankie is a sign of what is worth trying for and who is worth looking for. We were not meant to be on this world to be alone, and I don't care if rates or numbers or statistics of any kind say otherwise, I know there is someone out there for me and it's only a matter of time until I find her and discover that.
I may sound like a hippie, or a sap, or a total idiot, but I believe in my heart we have a mate out there for each and everyone of us and no matter how crappy this life or anyone else in it treats you, giving up is not the way. Take my advice if you like, or don't, it's your choice, I'm just giving my 2 cents.
I just want you guys to know that i've been where you've been, many times more then you think, and I know from personal expierence that this is worth searching for.
Cassini90125
09-03-2006, 05:32 PM
I nonetheless wouldn't last long trying to help with her chores. Sure, I'd stick it out and remain 100% loyal to her... but I'd probably collapse.
Don't sell yourself short, dude; you're stronger than you think. :)
Voxxyn
09-03-2006, 06:14 PM
Mr. Marshmellow, I must say I admire your dedication, and I hope you find your "special other" soon.
Personally, I haven't given up; I'm just not willing yet. Right now, I want to pursue my studies, my education, my future career, my hobbies and interests, et al. When I'm mature and stable and "ready" enough, THEN I'll go looking for my "special other". And I'll be completely honest: I'm not the kind who just asks out any random attractive girl from a bar, for the mere sake of it. I'm sorry, but I just don't roll that way. I want to take something as important in life as love more seriously than that.
And to roll things back on-topic: that's one thing I just completely love about Frankie. She's at that age where relationships and socializing are so crucial to most other people; but she sacrifices such things for a cause she genuinely believes in.
Medikor
09-03-2006, 06:18 PM
I think that if you do care for someone enough, you would make the effort to make things work. I daydream, but I havent started the hunt for my lady yet. I know for a fact that if I found her, I would fight through my anxiety (a condition I take medication for) and my overly shy nature. If she dosent appreceate that, then she wouldant be my loving lady.
I know that if Frankie were real, I would make the effort to desrve her. I'm not a dream-man in any way, but I WILL sacrafice things if I have too. Relationships are all about sacrafice, and Frankie has made alot. If I wanted to win the heart of a girl in Frankies position, I would have to give up alot to be with her. It would only be fair.
Voxxyn
09-03-2006, 06:30 PM
I think that if you do care for someone enough, you would make the effort to make things work. I daydream, but I havent started the hunt for my lady yet. I know for a fact that if I found her, I would fight through my anxiety (a condition I take medication for) and my overly shy nature. If she dosent appreceate that, then she wouldant be my loving lady.
I know that if Frankie were real, I would make the effort to desrve her. I'm not a dream-man in any way, but I WILL sacrafice things if I have too. Relationships are all about sacrafice, and Frankie has made alot. If I wanted to win the heart of a girl in Frankies position, I would have to give up alot to be with her. It would only be fair.
Very, very well put. :frankiesmile:
Mr. Marshmallow
09-03-2006, 08:00 PM
I agree. Frankie is someone who is kind and sweet enough that is worth putting up crap with, work, money, gas, commuting, whatever. That's the whole reason I go on and that's why everyone else should to, because that is what is worth working for. If I knew anyone like Frankie I would work my ASS off to be with her.
That's what life is, compromising. You do what you have to do, and someone like Frankie is worth compromising for. If I met Frankie I would do whatever it took to prove to her that I am willing to do what it takes to make a relationship work. Whether she lives at Foster's for the rest of her life or works there every day.
The point is someone as special as her is worth the dedication. I don't dwell on the past and I don't hold grudges, I've tried and failed at relationships but that's no reason to never get back on the horse and try it again. Frankie is a kind and caring person and I myself am amazed at how seriously I am looking at her right now.
I never thought I could relate such "purity" through a cartoon character. I know Frankie will never be real nor any of the other fictional characters I have enjoyed and admired in the past. But I know that I will find my special someone, and wether its in 5 years or 5 minutes, once you have her, that's ALL that matters.
If your not happy and you don't feel like its right, then its not. Take it from Frankie, love requires work and dedication to get what your dreaming after and unless your willing to do that, you won't ever truly find what your looking for.
Personally, I don't believe in soulmates, love at first sight or any of that. I feel that if you're to busy looking for someone, you'll miss ten other perfectly good someones in the process. I'll just be happy to ride the roller coaster once or twice. :bloocross:
As for Frankie, she's probably also not actively searching for Mr. Right at this point in her life, nor to I think she places romance high on her list of priorites, or else her character would be so much different from the one we know and love.
Voxxyn
09-03-2006, 11:17 PM
If the last few pages are any indication, some of us seem to have differing opinions on this matter.
I greatly admire Mr. Marshmellow's enthusiasm and dedication. At the same time, however, I can't deny that I'm HAPPY being single at the moment. Key word, AT THE MOMENT. I definitely won't remain "alone" for the rest of my life. I'm 16, turning 17 next month, and am going on my final year of high school. I've had a fair amount of friends, and even a few close female acquaintances, but none of them ever formed into a serious relationship. And unfortunately, though for different reasons, I can somewhat feel the pessimism that PBL displayed in her last post here; as I went from elementary to middle and high school, I found less friends and more bullies and jerks. (And I do know what a broken heart feels like, not through a romantic relationship, but an ill-fated friendship in middle school which I'd rather not talk about in detail)
I've yet to meet that soulmate, because I've yet to get into the hunt for her. I won't do so until I'm ready; until I've become stable, secure, mature(but still willing to have fun), more socially apt and have built myself into enough of a responsible man worthy of a good girl. You might say I'm planning to work BEFORE I've actually met her.
But again, Mr. Marshmellow, I like and respect your very dedicated attitude, and I wish the best for you :frankiesmile:
Medikor
09-04-2006, 06:54 AM
You know, for a bunch of people who watch cartoons, we're awfully mature and deep.8D
Cassini90125
09-04-2006, 07:01 AM
You know, for a bunch of people who watch cartoons, we're awfully mature and deep.8D
I like to think it says something about both the quality of the show and the caliber of it's fans. I think it's by far the best program that CN's ever come out with, and while it's certainly attracted it's share of freaks, it's attracted a lot of really good, caring people as well, as one can see in this thread and elsewhere on the Forum. :frankiesmile:
Mr. Marshmallow
09-04-2006, 10:52 AM
Well said.
Take a bow you crazy Foster's fans ^^.
Medikor
09-04-2006, 10:53 AM
*Promptly bow's*
Voxxyn
09-04-2006, 01:29 PM
**Joins in**
Cassini90125
09-04-2006, 02:15 PM
(Bows as well) Now, back to Frankie. :frankiesmile:
Here's the most obscure and obsessive bit of Frankie trivia I could come up with. Did anyone else notice that in both Squeeze The Day and The Big Cheese Frankie has five toes on her feet, but in Squeakerboxxx she has only four? :o
Yeah, I know, I'm not well. ;D
billytheskink
09-04-2006, 04:12 PM
that's pretty interesting actually, Cassini. To me, anyway.
taranchula
09-04-2006, 04:30 PM
(Bows as well) Now, back to Frankie. :frankiesmile:
Here's the most obscure and obsessive bit of Frankie trivia I could come up with. Did anyone else notice that in both Squeeze The Day and The Big Cheese Frankie has five toes on her feet, but in Squeakerboxxx she has only four? :o
Yeah, I know, I'm not well. ;D
Well there is an obvious explanation for that; "Four Toed Frankie" is Frankie's stunt/body double. 8D
Hmmmm, Four Toed Frankie, that sounds like the name of a gangster from one of those cheesy crime movies :D
kageri
09-04-2006, 04:47 PM
I get dibs on "Four Toed Frankie" as a rock band name. I was here first!
Cassini90125
09-04-2006, 05:37 PM
Hmmmm, Four Toed Frankie, that sounds like the name of a gangster from one of those cheesy crime movies :D
LOL! That was priceless! ;D
Mr. Marshmallow
09-04-2006, 06:06 PM
Obscure and obsessive?
Why that's the definition of a true geek fan!
Just playing, that is odd but I'm sure that's just a mistake. I taped "The Big Cheese" tonight so I can rewatch it.
By the way, seeing Frankie do that just for the security code was certainly funny, but also certainly weird.
Medikor
09-04-2006, 06:14 PM
I can't wait for season dvd's so I can see all these episodes! Frankie's pressance in an episode always make me smile and feel much better. I don't know why, but she's the perfect pick-me-up after a bad day.8D
Cassini90125
09-04-2006, 06:22 PM
I can't wait for season dvd's so I can see all these episodes! Frankie's pressance in an episode always make me smile and feel much better. I don't know why, but she's the perfect pick-me-up after a bad day.8D
That she is. The whole cast is, actually, but Frankie in particular. If I'm having a bad day I sometimes pop a Foster's disk into my DVR, kick back and just lose myself in an episode or two, and within ten minutes or so I'm feeling better. Works every time. ;)
Don't try this with "Imposter's Home", though. :P
Medikor
09-04-2006, 06:51 PM
I still have to see "Imposters", so no worries there!8D
Voxxyn
09-04-2006, 08:36 PM
Absolutely. Especially in "Foster's Goes To Europe"; Frankie seemed to be the ONLY one(aside from Mac) who was actually trying to be responsible in that episode... and, of course, it's her who discovers that Madame Foster is gone at the end.
After watching that episode, I wondered(and still do) that if I were Mac, I would've just stayed behind and let Frankie go to Europe on her own. She definitely deserves it.
Medikor
09-05-2006, 08:00 AM
I don't think Frankie would have enjoyed Europe as much without her good friends.
Mr. Marshmallow
09-05-2006, 06:22 PM
I think she would have been fine so long as Bloo wasn't there, she didn't have any problem ditching him during "Squeeze the day".
Mac was at school but I bet if he was out on that day, they would have asked him too, or I should say Frankie would have asked him.
Medikor
09-05-2006, 06:33 PM
Mac's a cool kid. Why wouldan't Frankie ask him if he would want to go? Maybe she see's him as the sibling she never had (as far as we know).
Mr. Marshmallow
09-05-2006, 08:40 PM
Mac's a cool kid. Why wouldan't Frankie ask him if he would want to go? Maybe she see's him as the sibling she never had (as far as we know).
No that's what i am saying. If Mac was out on school that day or he was off or something, I do believe Frankie would have asked him to come.
Frankie has always gotten along great with Mac, and they've never been at ends with each other the whole time I've watched the show.
Only time she ever got mad I can recall offhand is when Bloo and Mac tried to crank out Orlando "Bloo" again during "Neighbor Pains". To which Frankie replied
"I AM BURNING THESE"
To which, I laughed my ass off 8D.
Voxxyn
09-05-2006, 09:17 PM
Actually, there's a pretty nasty instance of Frankie being angry at Mac in "Crime After Crime". If you haven't seen that episode yet, I suggest you catch it when it airs to get the full understand why, as the storyline is too elaborate and complicated for me to explain. Let's just say that it shows that Mac IS able of acting like a child after all...
Other than that, they do get along great, which I really enjoy.
Medikor
09-06-2006, 07:00 AM
That was just an insttance of Mac being at the wrong place at the wrong time more than anything. Frankie's temper was already at the end of it's fuse, and a bunch of crazy stuff was happening. I'm sure that if they all put there sides of the story together, then the house would have a collective laugh.8D
Voxxyn
09-06-2006, 03:57 PM
I admit I was a little hasty in writing that part, so please forgive me. When I wrote "naughty", I was actually referring to the blatant way he teases Frankie upon discovering him jumping on her bed(something like "NAH-NAH, YOU CAN'T STOP ME!")--but in retrospect, it's actually a part of his child-like behavior. Needless to say, I laughed when it unceremoniously cut to Mac standing glumly outside the entrance with Frankie throwing the backpack at him.
And I agree with everything else. Though she got quite mad at him there, it was really a misunderstanding caused by everybody else's antics.
Medikor
09-06-2006, 04:55 PM
I just watched that episode again today (Teletoon has put Foster's back on the 7:00PM wekkday timeslot. Huzzah!:D) and I have to say that that episode (Crime after Crime) has to be one of the most well written episodes of any show I've seen! It was one of the first episodes I seen, and I can't wait to see more then the half-dozen (Teletoon is awful at airing a wide variety of episodes) I've seen.
I just like to think that Frankie would have thrown anyone out of the house if she found them jumping on that bed at that instance.8D And I love how she would throw that bowl of "It" into the trash. Flash animation is a great thing.:D
Voxxyn
09-06-2006, 09:14 PM
I must agree that "Crime After Crime" had some brilliant writing, especially how they handled "It". Presumably, it looked like it was just going to be one bowl shared by all the friends, but thanks to the chain of events set off by Mr. Herriman's carrot addiction and Bloo's resulting overreaction, the poor little blob ends up having to eat the entire thing multiple times. It's also bitingly ironic that the punishment is a meal worthy of Bloo's mighty appetite, maybe a response to how that very appetite caused bad luck to the other characters in "CKAGMD" and "Imposter's".
And I LOVE it when Frankie changes expressions in a snap. In this episode, she becomes deeply worried as Madame Foster samples the last "It" dish, affectionately relieved when grandma gives it the thumbs up, and then vengefully glee as she prepares to give the dishes to Bloo. It was even better in "Setting A President", when she goes from genuinely concered as she finished the intercom speech, to beaming triumpantly in her personal pride, to a frustrated scowl when the smear attack sneaks in one final blow--all in just seconds! It's done so quickly, and yet it's still very natural and seamless. Frankie is so expressive, and I adore that.
Medikor
09-07-2006, 06:15 AM
Yes, I love Frankie's expressions! There funny but realistic at the same time.:D
Thornwhistle
09-09-2006, 12:40 AM
We know little about her background or her family outside of Madame Foster, hell, we don't even know who her parents are, or if they're alive or not. When comic con 2007 comes around, I'm going there and I'd like to go to the Foster's panel and ask em about that personally.
I wondered about that subject myself. I have some questions:
What happened to Frankie's parents?
Does she have any siblings?
Does she have any aunts,uncles, or cousins?
Did she ever have her own imaginary friend at one point in her life?
Is she hiding any memories that were sad,unpleasant, or traumatic?
Was this already been discussed?
Cassini90125
09-09-2006, 07:15 AM
I wondered about that subject myself. I have some questions:
What happened to Frankie's parents?
Does she have any siblings?
Does she have any aunts,uncles, or cousins?
Did she ever have her own imaginary friend at one point in her life?
Is she hiding any memories that were sad,unpleasant, or traumatic?
Was this already been discussed?
It was discussed on the old forum, but that doesn't mean it can't be discussed again here. Those are all good questions; alas, they are questions that have no answers as yet, although there are plenty of theories, some good, some bad.
Medikor
09-09-2006, 10:48 AM
I saw the episode "cookie dough" today, and Frankie just cracked me up! She was definatly the funniest character in theat episode.8D
Mr. Marshmallow
09-09-2006, 02:48 PM
I should ask the Comic con panel about her cookie obsession as well 8D it's such an odd idea, having Frankie just go totally nuts for Foster's cookies. You don't feel sad for her when she overstuffs herself because its just too funny.
She goes beyond wacko when they come out, and her expressions are just priceless. But actually Frankie "technically" did make imaginary friends when she created those scribbles she was "sowwy" for that they locked up in the walls.
There not ideal imaginary friends but they are living creatures thought up by someone's imagination, that's close enough.
Medikor
09-09-2006, 03:15 PM
You can't blame Frankie for loveing her Gramma's cookies. I'm the same way with MY Gramma! And we all know that Gramma's make the BEST cookie's in the world.8D
Mr. Marshmallow
09-09-2006, 04:04 PM
Frankie is CUCKOO for cookies, like mentally unstable "I'm Napolenon" crazy.
That's the big difference ;D and a funny difference at that.
Medikor
09-09-2006, 05:22 PM
The coockie's must be REALLY good too.:D
Voxxyn
09-09-2006, 05:37 PM
The thing I just ADORE TO ABSOLUTELY NO END about Frankie's cookie addiction is that it shows, no matter how mature she is compared to the other characters, she still has a very goofy and vulnerable side. Frankly, I find that very attractive.
I want a Goof Goof McGoof plushie, so I can hug it everytime CN airs "Imposter's Home"... :P
Thornwhistle
09-09-2006, 08:46 PM
Mr. Marshmallow; Frankie didn't create those scribbles. In the Trouble with Scribbles episode,Frankie and Mr. Herriman said that they are imaginary friends created by human babies.
Mr. Marshmallow
09-09-2006, 10:26 PM
Mr. Marshmallow; Frankie didn't create those scribbles. In the Trouble with Scribbles episode,Frankie and Mr. Herriman said that they are imaginary friends created by human babies.
Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I see.
I agree with Voxxyn also on the fact that as mature as Frankie is, she still pertains that bit of wackyness that everyone in the Foster's "family" seems to have.
Other good examples is Mac in "Squeeze the day", Eduardo's obssesion with the mattress in "Bus the two of us", and Herriman's drug like issue with carrots. This all good stuff and I think it's funny Frankie has such a bizarre quirk like that.
I also said before I'm happy Frankie is being used more but I think the writers are finally showing how caring and mommy like Frankie is. Like how she cared for Coco when she thought she was sick, or trying to get Cheese to sing with the games.
True, Cheese can work any sane person's nerves and with Frankie's short fuse it's no wonder she snapped. But it shows she's a caring person and that she at least tries her hardest to help out others, even at her own embarassment.
Like at the end of "The Big cheese". I also thought this was kind of touching as sappy as it sounds, I thought it was very cute when Frankie saw Mac was sick in "Bloooo" and took him home and told him to get inside and get warm.
I know alot of people would say anyone would do that, but it just felt much more compassionate and sweet coming from Frankie.
Medikor
09-10-2006, 07:10 AM
Yes, Frankie is very careing and compassinet, and a good singer too.;) It just warmed my heart over when she was singing those nercery rhimes to Cheese. And her cookie addiction shows that, for as mature and responsable as she is, she hasen't lost touch with her childhood.:D
billytheskink
09-10-2006, 04:16 PM
Understandable that she'd be a good singer.
Grey DeLisle's released a few albums, and from what I've heard of them, she's not bad.
Medikor
09-10-2006, 06:41 PM
I think Frankie's voice play's a part too. I love her voice, but I have no clue why. It's just perfect to me. But, yeah. Grey Delisle is supposed to be a pretty good singer. (not my kind of music from what I think I heard) But that is part of the reason I love learning about voice actors. I find them more interesting then "real" celebritie's. And the Foster's crew seem like they would be real fun to be around.:D
Cassini90125
09-10-2006, 06:45 PM
Yeah, she's very good. Ms. Delisle has the perfect voice for Frankie. She did a marvelous job as the voice of Daphne on Scooby-Doo, too. :)
Medikor
09-10-2006, 07:16 PM
Did she take classes for acting, or did she just audition cause she was told that she's good act makeing voices? Either way, she's very good at what she does.
billytheskink
09-10-2006, 07:58 PM
Did she take classes for acting, or did she just audition cause she was told that she's good act makeing voices? Either way, she's very good at what she does.
They have classes for such things. Not sure if Grey Delisle ever took them, supposedly she looked into it when she was told she did good voice immitations as a stand-up comic.
Sounds like she has fun...
Medikor
09-10-2006, 08:08 PM
Anyone can audition, that's for sure. But I'm sure you're better off with classes to back you up. But some voice actors come from nothing and move on up. I guess it depends on whether you have the right voice, personality, attitude, and abillity to take directions.
I don't know if I would ever take a shot at seriouse voice acting, but I enjoy reading into it. I may try fandub's or lend my voice to a friends project. I have a history of performing, so I may do well. I think I could be a good voice actor if I REALLY made the effort. But one thing is for sure: It would be increadably fun to work with the Foster's crew! They must have a real fun time. It show's in the finished product.
Voxxyn
09-10-2006, 11:02 PM
If you want to see just how talented and diverse Grey DeLisle is, compare Frankie to Mandy from The Grim Adventures. If it weren't for sharing the same voice actress, they couldn't possibly hope to be any more different, either in appearances or personality. It's just amazing.
However, to be completely honest, I do NOT like how Mandy hogs all the attention and fan love from DeLisle's other characters. I guess I understand why, since Mandy is one of the mascots on her show, while Frankie isn't. But it still grates me, because unlike Mandy, Frankie's character is unique and refreshingly three-dimensional.
Medikor
09-11-2006, 07:50 AM
I thought Mandy was voiced by Terra Strong. But I agree. Frankie is a better character all around. But Mandy has a cute charm to her.
billytheskink
09-11-2006, 11:11 AM
Strong and DeLisle sound very similar when they do a low-key voice (see DeLisle's Mandy and Strong's character from Teen Titans, never remember those character's names).
Foster's is blessed with excellent voice work. No cartoon can really entertain without good voice acting.
Medikor
09-11-2006, 11:28 AM
Yes, good voice actors are very important to a cartoon. My all time faves are Scott Mcneill and Cam Clarck. But many of the Foster's crew, Grey Delisle inparticular, are moveing up my list!:D
kageri
09-11-2006, 03:15 PM
Being good at acting is essential to voice acting, because if you can't act, all you really have is funny voices.
That's one of the things I love about Foster's, too -- you can just tell they have a lot of fun making it.
BlooCheese
09-11-2006, 04:16 PM
If you want to see just how talented and diverse Grey DeLisle is, compare Frankie to Mandy from The Grim Adventures. If it weren't for sharing the same voice actress, they couldn't possibly hope to be any more different, either in appearances or personality. It's just amazing.
WHOA...If you hadn't posted that, I would've never known that Grey DeLisle did Mandy's voice.
Medikor
09-16-2006, 05:51 AM
I just saw "Squeekerbox" today. I have to say that Frankie look's pretty good in the morning. ;)
Voxxyn
09-16-2006, 06:13 AM
I've been rewatching the end of "The Big Cheese" repeatedly on my computer, only because I think Frankie looks absolutely delicious without her jacket and covered in mud. That, and she's simply hilarious :D
Medikor
09-16-2006, 06:54 AM
I've seen the 2nd third of "The Big Cheese" on youtube, but I want to wait and see the whole thing on the T.V. But that episode only makes me love Frankie's voice even more.:D
I wonder what Grey Delisle would think of us guy's swooning over a cartoon character? I know that I need to get out more. But Frankie is too great to pass up!8D
taranchula
09-16-2006, 07:27 AM
I've seen the 2nd third of "The Big Cheese" on youtube, but I want to wait and see the whole thing on the T.V. But that episode only makes me love Frankie's voice even more.:D
I wonder what Grey Delisle would think of us guy's swooning over a cartoon character? I know that I need to get out more. But Frankie is too great to pass up!8D
Grey's a professional, I am sure she's used to it. ;)
billytheskink
09-16-2006, 02:31 PM
borrowed a CD today. Grey DeLisle sings one of the songs on it.
Just thought that was worth mentioning.
Mr. Marshmallow
09-16-2006, 02:41 PM
I think Grey would laugh and in some odd way, be flattered that so many people have been drawn to their characters. I mean guys like Tom Kenny and Phil LaMarr are probably used to having people support them because there "bigger" stars then Frankie is.
And I think the fact that Frankie is one of the middle kinda characters, she might find it flattering that so many people have taken aliking to a character that was never made to be the star. I know I would appreciate it. It makes you feel good, makes you feel better knowing people support even the minor roles.
Kzinistzerg
09-16-2006, 03:23 PM
Well, most of teh charcters in fosters are well done. I'd imagine she'd be flattered, though.
Medikor
09-16-2006, 03:29 PM
I wonder if Frankie is Grey's favorite role she's had? She just seem's to pute some extra dash of magic into Frankie unlike other characters.
Mr. Marshmallow
09-16-2006, 03:33 PM
Well, she certainly has talent what with the insanely bizarre range differences between Mandy from Billy and Mandy and Frankie here at Foster's. That's always a good sign that someone has skill if you can play 2 different characters with an unrecognizeable voice.
Some voice actors can't change their voice, and end up sounding the same for alot of their characters. Hank Azaria for Simpsons for example is INCREDIBLY talented being able to do Moe, Wiggum, Apu and all those interesting sounding characters.
I also like Frankie's screams, that's a good trick to have up your sleeve too, not everyone can yell and make it sound so convincing and at the same time so funny.
Medikor
09-16-2006, 03:46 PM
Well yes, many actors are very skilled because they can use so many differant voices. But one's who don't have the quantity make up for it with quality. Cam Clark is a great example. Even when he uses a differant voice, you KNOW it's him. But his voice acting is fantastic! His role of Kratos in Tales of Symphonia is still my favorite performance he's done. Just ahead of the Tick's Deflator-mouse and the Ninja Turtle's Leonardo in the original 80's cartoon.:D
But my all time favorite voice actor is the great Scott Mcneill! The man has the quality AND the quantity. But his voice is so cool on it's own, he dosen't even need to try. You may remember him as BeastWars' Dinobot, Rattrap, Waspinator and Silverbolt, Inuyasha'a Koga, and Gundam Wing's Duo Maxwell.
Grey Delisle never fails to impress me, though. She was fantastic as Berry, and we all love her as Frankie. And for the longest time, I thought Terra Strong did the voice of Mandy!8D Grey is certainly a gem.:D
Mr. Marshmallow
09-16-2006, 04:02 PM
But my all time favorite voice actor is the great Scott Mcneill! The man has the quality AND the quantity. But his voice is so cool on it's own, he dosen't even need to try. You may remember him as BeastWars' Dinobot, Rattrap, Waspinator and Silverbolt, Inuyasha'a Koga, and Gundam And for the longest time, I thought Terra Strong did the voice of Mandy!8D Grey is certainly a gem.:D
I actually met Scott McNeil at Anime Central 2004 I believe, he was SUCH a cool guy! Loads of fun to hang out with and talk to, and I even got him to autopgraph my con programming book and had him scream out
"Dinobot Maximize"
It was a blast, he's also one of my fav. voice actors. Him along with Ian Cornett, Tim Curry, Ron Pearlmen, Mark Hamil, and Kevin Michael Richardson. But I think were getting off track from Frankie here :P.
Medikor
09-16-2006, 04:15 PM
That's my fault. Sorry. Do you think they'll ever bring a new character into the show so Frankie can have a REAL romance? Like they needed another set of hands at Fosters to help out. Let's face it, ever since Bloo came along, things have become VERY hecktic. Then again... that may not work to well for the show.
Kzinistzerg
09-16-2006, 04:16 PM
It wouldn't work well for the show, i think. it just dosn't fit in with the premise they have.
Medikor
09-16-2006, 04:47 PM
That's what I figured. Poor Frankie is going to go loveless. Too bad I can't jump into my tv to give her my shoulder to cry on.
InsaneFan
09-16-2006, 04:58 PM
NEW SUBJECT.
From what I've read(or remember reading), most people think Frankie's parents are dead. Thoughts, please.
Mr. Marshmallow
09-16-2006, 04:59 PM
Well that's what fan fics are for, despite how many people feel about them around here. Jumping into the TV would be a dream come true if I could live it. Nice thing about Frankie is that as we all know, Frankie has a lot of love to give. That's good because in her sake, so do we :-* !
But seriously I think Frankie's date episode is proof enough that (for the time being) she's content with her life and wouldn't want to lose her friends over any boyfriend, even Bloo. She's happy with her life and the people in her life, and a person as nice and warm and caring as her will have no problem meeting a guy.
No person looking that attractive and being that loveable can go unnoticed for long.
EDIT in regards to NEW SUBJECT
I doubt Frankie's parents are dead, it would be too obvious and there's no indication of anything bad happening to them. Maybe Frankie doesn't get along with her parents or they travel alot, or they have BIG demanding jobs like doctors, explorers, etc.
Frankie has a sense of reasoning and actual sanity, which is something she would have lost had she been completely raised her whole life by her cuckoo-for-coco puffs grandmother. I said before I wanna ask the comic con panel about Frankie's parents but, I just don't think they're dead.
InsaneFan
09-16-2006, 05:40 PM
Well, there is the fact that Frankie's been living at Foster's since she was little...
Matchsticks
09-16-2006, 05:44 PM
Well, she could have lived with her Grandma over the summer when she was little and when she became older she decided she wanted to help IFs so she decided to work/live at Foster's.
Medikor
09-16-2006, 06:17 PM
I don't think her parents are deceased. That would make the writters miss out on a great episode! Imagine that they come to visit her and unintentionaly imberess her the whole time.8D I don't think they are dead at all.
My sister moved out and lived with my grandmother for a few years. So it's not too unlikely that Frankie took up her job via Madam Foster's invitation and never looked back. It look's like a cushy job too because it seems to come with free room and board, as far as I can tell.
Matchsticks
09-16-2006, 06:24 PM
That would make a cute episode!
Voxxyn
09-16-2006, 11:51 PM
If Frankie's parents ever come to visit... I have a feeling that they might be the very opposite of what she and Foster's stand for--stuffy and rigid people who try to be as polite as they can when Madame Foster and Mr. Herriman(and all the other IFs) are around, but secretly think that their daughter should stop "wasting her time" with imaginary friends and "get a real life and job".
Not only would there be some good humor, but also some genuine drama and conflict.
Medikor
09-17-2006, 05:47 AM
I think that might be a little too serious for the show. Part of Foster's charm is that it's very lighthearted. Sure, there are lessons to be learned and all but haveing an incident like that could be pretty depressing. Ofcourse, the writters for this show are great, so they would proboly find a way to end it on a high note. Like her parents end up adopting an imaginary friend that they fall in love with (Duchess would be a twist!8D ) and start to understand Frankie's feelings for imaginary friends and decide that it's ok after all. Good idea.:D
Voxxyn
09-17-2006, 11:45 AM
Frankie would certainly have a lot of interesting stories to tell her parents: cookie binges, dating, becoming Foster's president and, of course, Goofball John McGee.
I'm sure she'll have a blast explaining that last one. :o ;)
Medikor
09-17-2006, 11:47 AM
I'm still waiting to see goofball. But my brother told me about the "Frankie's Right Bloo's Wrong" jar. I've got to see that!8D
billytheskink
09-17-2006, 01:00 PM
explaining Frankie's parents would open up all sorts of cans of worms. Madame Foster's kids (if any other than Frankie's father, by assumption), her husband, etc.
Lots of explaining to do there.
Perhaps the writers have yet to touch it because they just can't figure out how to explain it all and make it entertaining.
Mr. Marshmallow
09-17-2006, 02:22 PM
Well then here's to them getting their ideas in gear, because this is something I am REALLY looking forward to seeing.
If they can explain one person's family life (Mac) already, they should be able to tell another.
Matchsticks
09-17-2006, 02:46 PM
I wanna know about Frankie's family alsooo. *whines*
Cassini90125
09-17-2006, 03:36 PM
As do I. That story is at the top of my list.
Mr. Marshmallow
09-17-2006, 06:05 PM
Frankie would certainly have a lot of interesting stories to tell her parents
Oh she sure would, including the best one of all.
The one where she introduces her parents to her new boyfriend, Orlando Bloo!
Oooooh :blooevil: god only knows what could come out of that.
Oh she sure would, including the best one of all.
The one where she introduces her parents to her new boyfriend, Orlando Bloo!
Oooooh :blooevil: god only knows what could come out of that.
Oh man, why can't that be an episode!! </big Orlando Bloo fangirl>
Matchsticks
09-17-2006, 07:02 PM
Frankie: And this is my boyfriend...*gumble and forces it out* Orlando Bloo.
Frankie's Mom:...What an intresting man with no nose.
Frankie's Dad: And such an intresting shade of blue.
Cassini90125
09-18-2006, 01:19 AM
If we're very lucky, Mattel will decide to produce an Orlando Bloo plush. Better yet, one with a pullstring voicebox that says Orlando Bloo quotes from the show. I'd buy it without much thought. 8-)
Voxxyn
09-18-2006, 03:37 AM
I still want, first and foremost, a Frankie action figure/plush/whatever... yes, I'd even get a Barbie. :-[ :P
Cassini90125
09-18-2006, 06:43 AM
I still want, first and foremost, a Frankie action figure/plush/whatever... yes, I'd even get a Barbie. :-[ :P
Don't be embarrassed, my friend. A Frankie Barbie is my top choice and I don't care what anyone thinks about that. If they make one and do it right, she'll be absolutely spectacular. :) ;)
Medikor
09-18-2006, 10:16 AM
As much as I love Frankie, I don't think I would get a toy of her. :(
Cassini90125
09-18-2006, 01:26 PM
As much as I love Frankie, I don't think I would get a toy of her. :(
Toys aren't everyone's cup of tea; I think my brother sent his to a landfill. As for me, I plan on buying the entire Mattel Foster's line, with Frankie related stuff as my first priority. :)
Medikor
09-18-2006, 01:31 PM
Don't get me wrong. I LOVE toys! I've been trying to get my old transformer toy's back off ebay.
Cassini90125
09-18-2006, 01:41 PM
I picked up some excellent Foster's stuff there recently. They've got some pretty good merchandise available, although none of it is specifically about Frankie. I just keep watching, waiting to see what comes along.
Mr. Marshmallow
09-18-2006, 02:18 PM
I will definitely buy a Frankie figure or doll or plushie, my concern was just not getting a purse or something with her picture on it. I have a large ass collection of toys myself and I don't mind getting figures, dolls, or stuffed toys.
I think Frankie would look better on a plushie then a barbie, it's just easier for me to picture her that way and by god it would be SO cute. I love getting toys of things but I won't like go totally out of my way.
Like if Burger King releases mini Foster's toys, I won't spend my money on crappy food to get crappier little toys when the bigger and better ones will be out sooner or later and will look better too. Frankie plushie here I come!
Cassini90125
09-18-2006, 02:27 PM
The Burger King toys weren't too bad. There was no Frankie toy, which annoyed me, but the wind-up Mr. Herriman was almost worth the two days of gastrointestinal distress that followed. ;)
Medikor
09-18-2006, 04:15 PM
I just saw "World Wide Wabbit" today, and I have to say that Frankie looked SO cute with that cap on backwards!:D
Cassini90125
09-18-2006, 04:23 PM
I just saw "World Wide Wabbit" today, and I have to say that Frankie looked SO cute with that cap on backwards!:D
She looked a few years younger, too, at least to me. Definitely cute, though.
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