Berry [Archive] - Never Forgotten: a Foster's Home Community

rukift

08-20-2006, 06:39 PM

I really like Berry, just because she's a character I can relate to. It's not something I'm particularily proud of, but that connection's still there. I wonder why she's so afraid of abandonment, why she's obsessed with true love... why is Berry who she is? I think her previous home smothered her with love and she just accepted that as normal... and oh, look, they're not there anymore. Time to get a boyfriend to cling on to in place of a family, I suppose?

I don't get why Berry can't come back more often, she's more interesting than all the other standard new charaters. Maybe it's best she was just kept to one episode, I wouldn't want to see her evolve into the new Cheese.

Cassini90125

08-20-2006, 06:42 PM

It might be amusing if Cheese was her next crush. :cheesegrin:

rukift

08-20-2006, 06:45 PM

8D I hope some regular foster's-fanfic authors are listening...

Thornwhistle

08-21-2006, 08:54 PM

Wouldn't it be scary if Berry had a crush on Wilt?

BlooCheese

08-21-2006, 08:58 PM

Berry scary. (Okay. That was lame.)

buyamerican159

08-22-2006, 12:42 PM

I have much love for Berry, her episode was one of the first ones i saw, and i loved it.

Tonya

08-22-2006, 01:58 PM

Oh my lord, she'd freak Wilt out untill he snapped. Picture this, Berry coming in between Wilt and his basketball.....that'd be quite a mess! And yes, rutkif, I have plenty in common with Berry too. Believe me, when I have a crush, usually, I can be pretty obsesive. But, atleast i'm not POsessive!, or atleast not as bad as her. I thought of another combination, what about Mandy (from The Grim Adventures) and Wilt, him being her IF? THAT would be something.....

leadballoon

08-22-2006, 04:12 PM

Haha, brilliant! :D I actually loved Berry, thought she was really cool! I imagine I'm in the minority there :P

InsaneFan

08-22-2006, 04:45 PM

OMG! XD Wilt and Berry...Ya know, it sounds actually amusing enough that if someone wrote a fanfic, I'd read it. If I had more time, and were more talented, I'd do it myself, just 'cause I'm like that...

Tonya

08-22-2006, 05:45 PM

Yes, it is rather amusing. It's kind of a cute coupling in a way, Wilt, Berry...kinda scary, but.....Awwww!
But, as spoken from me, and like Berry would say, "NOBODY CAN HAVE HIM BUT MEEE-, or atleast not any other IF's!". ha! Don't worry, us human girls can share him with our minds, after all, he is imaginary. *smile*

Voxxyn

08-23-2006, 09:41 AM

I'd love a Berry return(As long as she isn't "run dry" ala Cheese), because she's awesome. I loved the cuteness overload in the many scenes with just her and Frankie at the beginning ^_^

Cassini90125

08-23-2006, 09:43 AM

I think it would be funny if her next obsession was Mr. Herriman. 8D

Fomalhaut

08-23-2006, 10:58 AM

I liked her voice, and the way she turned from lil cutie to psycho in like .08 seconds! And, poor Mac, but all the ways she tried to get rid of him were incredibly fun!

Thornwhistle

08-23-2006, 08:50 PM

She might return to Foster's looking for revenge against Bloo. :o

Nyo

08-24-2006, 09:11 AM

She might return to Foster's looking for revenge against Bloo. :o

*le gasp*

And time for my opinion on Berry! Yaaay!

I really like Berry better than Cheese and Goo combined together. I love characters who act like they should be in a mental hosipital (AKA crazy).

BTW, I saw a fanfic that had Berry obessing over Wilt. 8D

Kzinistzerg

08-24-2006, 11:22 AM

She's amusing. The previously mentioned fact that she goes from cute to wacko in like a billionth of a second is hilarious.

InsaneFan

08-24-2006, 11:50 AM

*le gasp*

And time for my opinion on Berry! Yaaay!

I really like Berry better than Cheese and Goo combined together. I love characters who act like they should be in a mental hosipital (AKA crazy).

BTW, I saw a fanfic that had Berry obessing over Wilt. 8D

WHERE?

Nyo

08-24-2006, 12:32 PM

It was on FanFiction.net. But it's really OLD and hard to find.

*steals Wilt from Berry and gives him to IsaneFan*

BTW I remember you. You were on Cartoon Central! But its closed now.

FostersFriend

08-25-2006, 01:33 AM

I actually really liked Berry apart from the whole 'phsyco' theme. But I think the whole obsessive theme etc really brought a new light to Foster's showing it's not always sweet. :blooevil:

Thornwhistle

08-25-2006, 11:27 AM

Nyo,you're right,that story IS hard to find. Last night,I looked for it on FanFiction by typing "Wilt and Foster's Home" on their search engine,but I had no luck on finding it.

Nyo

08-25-2006, 11:40 AM

Nyo,you're right,that story IS hard to find. Last night,I looked for it on FanFiction by typing "Wilt and Foster's Home" on their search engine,but I had no luck on finding it.

Yeah, I know. That's one thing that sucks about FF.net, it's really hard to find stories there.

Tonya

09-18-2006, 08:08 PM

I thought of another freaky combination. What about Berry and Ed?

Emma

09-18-2006, 09:01 PM

You guys aren't missing much when it comes to that Wilt/Berry fic. My memory of it also includes a complete and utter Sue, some Wilt angst, Berry being too psychotic (which is really, really psychotic), and Bloo being inexplicably smitten with Berry for some unexplained reason. I think there was something about a fake diary too, but it's been a while. :bloocross:

Ahem, anyway, I love Berry. She's definitely my favorite minor character (she beats out a few of the regulars too *cough*GooandCheese*cough*). I just loved the way she acted around Bloo! And Bloo's reaction to her was quite hilarious as well! I want them to bring her back sooo badly. :D

BlooCheese

09-18-2006, 09:36 PM

They're going to have a hard time finding her if they ever do bring her back. If I recall correctly, she rolled off into the distance, never to be seen again...
Do you think if she had had the chance, she would've actually physically harmed Mac?

Emma

09-18-2006, 10:27 PM

No, no, of course not...well, not seriously anyway. ;)

Actually, I don't think she would have ever done something truly bad to Mac because she knew that Bloo was his best friend, and since she wasn't a complete idiot, it's not beyond the realms of reason that she would forsee what that would do to Bloo.

Voxxyn

09-23-2006, 01:35 PM

I just found Frankie's obsession with Berry and Bloo being a couple hilarious. She acted like a fanfiction shipper 8D

Kzinistzerg

09-23-2006, 05:17 PM

Yeah, she really did! If it had come later on in the season I would have wondered if they were commenting on the fanfics... but as it is...

InsaneFan

10-02-2006, 05:18 PM

It was on FanFiction.net. But it's really OLD and hard to find.

*steals Wilt from Berry and gives him to IsaneFan*

BTW I remember you. You were on Cartoon Central! But its closed now.

Crud. D=

YAY! *takes Wilt and runs off*

Oh, yeah. I was. Didn't post much, though. I post at several forums, and I kept forgetting to visit.

Medikor

10-06-2006, 04:03 PM

I thought Berry was great! Berry scarey was one of the first episodes I seen and it helped make me a die-hard fan of the show. It was makeing me laugh from start to finish!8D
For secondary characters-Berry is just behind Cheese at the top of my favorite's list. She was so cute but so psycotic. That's what made her so funny. I was rolling on the floor when she corrected Bloo about her name when she was tied up in the rubber band ball. MY NAME IS BERRY!!!8D
I thought another fun part of the episode was how Frankie was trying to get Bloo and Berry together. It was cute. And "I can doodle a snicker!" is the best line ever.:D

donna323

10-07-2006, 08:38 AM

DoubleLatte

10-14-2006, 05:24 PM

It's like this ...

Berry is just another midunderstood woman ... er, female. A woman whose needs haven't been met in her life for one reason or another. And rather than wilt in a corner somewhere, she goes raging into the night, demanding what she needs and seeing nothing but her goal.

Berry keeps her eye on the tiger. To the exclusion of all else. I mean, all Cruella really wanted was a fur coat, right?

Other misunderstood women include Cruella DeVille, The Evil Queen, Ursula ... etc. ... any number of scary female villans from your last seen Disney movie.

And so ... in the spirit of being completely deluded and apart from reality (because the alternative is waaaaay too bleak), Berry will do everything and anything she can to remain deluded.

Anything else would be complete mediocrity ... and that is horrifying to her.

~D~
:scaryberry:

I agree with you on all these women being completely misunderstood in Disney movies (save the Evil Queen.. that woman just had issues), and it particularly bothers me that most of these women's motives to be "evil" were fueled by jealousy, envy, and vanity. You can really tell how far back in years these movies go, huh? Anyway, slightly off topic.

I think Berry might have even been considered a wee bit psychotic. But really; I couldn't see any difference between her and any other possessive and jealous female doubling as a body guard to her heart's desire. It even pissed me off a little that Mac cut her rubber band and took away her hard work. I mean, building a GIANT rubber band ball just to get someone as aloof as Bloo to roll his eyes your way? I admit, I don't enjoy my boyfriend's friends hanging out all the time, particularly when I'm around and want to have some alone time; it's intrusive. If it keeps up day after day, you BET *I'm* gonna be raising heck over it. Berry took it one step further; though everything she did to get Mac out of the picture was pleasingly quiet, yet obvious. Until she snapped. It just depends on what your concept of socially acceptable reactions are. Those are just my two cents.

donna323

10-19-2006, 06:22 PM

Cool response, Doublelatte ... :goo:

Further --> think about what Berry went through at her home before she was surrendered. She was either neglected or abused, in one form or another (that is appropriate to the topic, of course) *or* the kid that imagined her had issues that were transposed on to her. You know, kinda like Cheese and Louise being so alike in many ways.

I've read the string about Berry having a crush on Wilt, though ... I don't think it would work. I don't think Berry would maintain interest in him because he is too accommodating. He's too nice a guy. Something in Berry likes the bad boys (the bad bloo boys, that is), and I think she's used to being treated poorly.

For Berry, I think the chase is the thrill ... it makes her feel alive!

:scaryberry: ~D~

Mr. Marshmallow

10-23-2006, 10:35 PM

I just saw the episode and to be honest, I'm sorry to say i can't for the life of me see in anyway shape or form how Berry is "misunderstood". Neither are the disney female villains misunderstood, their actions speak for their personalities.

Cruella for example was insanely obsessive with killing the puppies, she wanted them dead more then the actual coat. The way she drove at them at the end of the movie trying to grab them, did she look like she was doing all this work for a piece of cloth?

No, she wanted dead puppies for a coat, that is as mean spirited as you get. Ursula wanted to control all of the sea and had no problem trying to kill Eric, Triton, or Ariel to do it. Ursula manpiulates people for her own selfish purposes and uses people just to get what she wants.

Now back to Berry. I admit Bloo helped push Berry to her breaking point, he's not the easiest imaginary friend to tolerate for 5 minutes let alone for a lifetime relationship. But Berry is psycho and nothing Bloo or anyone else does will change that.

Her mental instability shows that whether Bloo did everything perfectly for her, there would always be someone or something that did some minor, inane thing that would drive her over the deep end, and that's why I feel she is a villain and a dangerous one at that.

She tried to kill Mac for crying out loud! She locked him in an ice box with ice cream. I also suggest people don't bring up the idea that Berry was abused or neglected, because that's basically just drudging up a whole "maybe this" scenario mess.

We can surmise and suggest and assume all we want, but we'll never know who created Berry or why she is the way she is so it doesn't help to make up scenarios for her when it's just as good as anyone's guess. Me personally, I would assume it was because of her psycho personality she got dumped.

I love Berry as a character, and after seeing the episode, I could totally see her coming back as a villain like Terrance and Duchess. But I just can't swallow the idea that Berry is misunderstood. Anyone that pops a blood vessel over seeing someone with your best friend within a matter of seconds.

Without knowing the whole story, the whole truth, and ends up creating paper cut outs to purposely prove a negative point to that person, has a LOT more problems to worry about then simply being misunderstood.

Cassini90125

10-23-2006, 10:48 PM

Well said on every point. Some IF's - and people, too - are just what they seem to be; there's nothing deeper. Not every personality problem stems from abuse or neglect.

Sparky

10-24-2006, 12:02 AM

While I agree with that (and it's nice to hear that said, and said well, from time to time) I still enjoy reading everyone's ideas. Don't have many of my own, but I like to read 'em. ;) Still, its best that everyone be able to stand up and say "That's just how they ARE" every once in a while, lol.

Mr. Marshmallow

10-24-2006, 02:52 PM

I'm not knocking people's possible backgrounds for characters, it's always nice to hear someone's imagination about something. But I just don't like it when they try to make an assumptions as a means to explain a character they can't honestly back up.

Berry is the way she is because this is who she is. Not everyone in the world needs a traumatic childhood or a life altering event in their life to make them go psycho. Look at Jack Napier/The Joker, he is evil by NATURE, it's just who he is. Same with guys like Freddy Kreuger and Chucky the doll.

Evil is not always beaten into you by bad expierences or parents or creators or whatever, evil is also genetic. People are crazy and wacko in the noggin just naturally, imaginary friends I doubt are any different. They seem to be more like us then we think.

InsaneFan

10-24-2006, 03:44 PM

Huh...Just noticing that the two people who think she's misunderstood are girls, and the two that don't think so are guys. :rolleyes:

In any case, I just think she's a funny character that I can relate to. ;) I could probably stand to see her show up again...:D

Imaginary Light

10-25-2006, 12:28 PM

LaBlooGirl

10-25-2006, 06:43 PM

Aw Berry. She's a cutie, but yeah....a true, deep-down, no-bones-about-it, crazier-than-a-cow-with-mad-cow's-disease, one can short of a six pack (I got tired of hyphens), one lightbulb missing from the lamp, a loaded gun, a Psycho movie star...WHATEVER you want to call her......she's crazy. Truly and deeply crazy.
But I still like her. :berry: She's has her charm....in her psychotic sort of way.

BlooCheese

10-25-2006, 07:04 PM

Huh...Just noticing that the two people who think she's misunderstood are girls, and the two that don't think so are guys. :rolleyes:

Hehehe. 8D

Berry is the way she is because this is who she is. Not everyone in the world needs a traumatic childhood or a life altering event in their life to make them go psycho. Look at Jack Napier/The Joker, he is evil by NATURE, it's just who he is. Same with guys like Freddy Kreuger and Chucky the doll.

Evil is not always beaten into you by bad expierences or parents or creators or whatever, evil is also genetic. People are crazy and wacko in the noggin just naturally, imaginary friends I doubt are any different. They seem to be more like us then we think.

I agree with you.

I think believing that someone is misunderstood is just a way to say, "It's not blah blah's fault that he/she ended up like that." We would like to believe that everybody who seems evil actually has some good deep down inside them, just as we know that every "good" person has some "bad" in them. It's the balance of the light and the dark. People who think like that are kind. But it doesn't work like that. And good triumphing over evil every single time? That's not plausible either.

Kzinistzerg

10-26-2006, 04:29 PM

I actively enjoy watching evil triumph, it's quite fun.

Yes, berry is psycho! I don't think it was something that happened, she's just ultra clingy. Like velcro. With duct tape. And super glue.

BlooCheese

10-26-2006, 05:48 PM

EVIL...IS...GOOD.
That doesn't make much sense, does it?

Back on topic.
Berry is pretty handy. She can make curtains and pillows and sweaters.

Invader Bloo

10-26-2006, 06:32 PM

I think Berry is misunderstood she's insane not evil. I'm a guy too. :P

I would like to see her in atleast one more episode, anything else would get out of hand.

BlooCheese

10-26-2006, 08:11 PM

Oh, I don't think she's evil. I just think she's insane. When I spoke of light and dark up there, light stands for everything that is good, and dark stands for everything that is bad. Insanity isn't necessarily something good, so it's dark. Now, insanity can make you do evil things, and in Berry's case, this is true. She did intentionally, knowingly, and purposefully harm Mac in hopes of hogging Bloo to herself. Her obsession over Bloo was insanity, as was her desire to get Mac out of the picture. But the ways in which she tried to get rid of Mac were evil. You definitely don't want to lock someone in a freezer full of ice cream unless you want them to die; killing is wrong. Thusly, Berry's actions against Mac, which resulted from her insanity, were evil. She herself is not evil, but just insane. And when I said "good triumphing over evil every single time? That's not plausible either," I was not referring to Berry.

Invader Bloo

10-26-2006, 08:15 PM

Which was similar to what I said. But she needs to b eput in a jacket, because I think season 2-now Bloo would probally be freaked out, season 1 Bloo was too goofy to care.

Mr. Marshmallow

10-27-2006, 02:54 PM

Insanity is just as much as your personality as evil. I don't think her insanity is the whole reason she is the way she is, even without the insanity, she is a clingly person and I doubt she would be any tamer if she lost her insanity.

She may make less freaky faces and so many mood swings but I think a person is who they are and nothing can really change who you are, not completely anyway. I also consider Berry to be as close to evil as you can get.

Terrance is more or less a villain of the show, but even he's not as twisted as Berry is when it comes to torturing Mac. Not only was the ice box thing as murderous as you can get (even if it is a cartoon, that is SERIOUS death stuff).

But Berry ripped Mac and Bloo apart and that is what really made her the bad guy, she tor two very close friends apart and didn't even give Mac a chance. She totally shut him out without trying to know him. She wanted Bloo all to herself and ignored everyone else.

Not only that, but she lied to Frankie and the others with her cutesty Care Bear act just to get closer to Bloo. The psycho Berry is the true Berry, or if you prefer, her true color.

DoubleLatte

10-28-2006, 01:31 AM

Huh...Just noticing that the two people who think she's misunderstood are girls, and the two that don't think so are guys.

I just get sick of the word "evil", ya know?

InsaneFan

10-28-2006, 12:50 PM

XD

Well, I can't help but feel sorry for Berry, even though I think she's nuts. I mean, she JUST came to Foster's, meaning she probably just got abandoned. I guess she needed someone to cling to since her previous friendship with her creator was severed.

Mr. Marshmallow

12-10-2006, 12:08 PM

I'm pretty sure it was Berry's berzerker nature that GOT her abandoned, Berry is like a super obsessive girlfriend in RL but in imaginary friend form. I think she's always been this way and this personality defect of hers is what caused her "break up" with her creator.

I really don't feel sorry for her because even though she was recently kicked out, that doesn't change the fact she abused home that was given to her by pushing Mac and Bloo away and secretly hating everyone that lived there other then Bloo.

I think Arnold Schwarzeneger said it best: "You're damaged goods lady".

Voxxyn

12-12-2006, 07:47 PM

She's a psycho, but a bizzarely adorable one. Definitely one of the show's best villain-ish figures. :scaryberry:

Mr. Marshmallow

12-12-2006, 08:05 PM

She's a psycho, but a bizzarely adorable one. Definitely one of the show's best villain-ish figures. :scaryberry:

One that I wish Foster's would revisit. I think Foster's, while not a show that technically needs villains or bad guy type characters, does need to bring back some of these characters. They don't often bring back anyone from past episodes other then Cheese and Goo.

All family and tied characters like Mac's mom, and Terrance are expected but it'd be nice if they found a way to bring back guys like Berry, or Little Lincoln, or other characters. Find a way to use em again, I'm sure they'd be a blast second time around.

I think Berry and Lincol especially have the potential to be more then 1 shot characters if done properly.

BabyElephant

12-13-2006, 01:24 AM

One that I wish Foster's would revisit. I think Foster's, while not a show that technically needs villains or bad guy type characters, does need to bring back some of these characters. They don't often bring back anyone from past episodes other then Cheese and Goo.

All family and tied characters like Mac's mom, and Terrance are expected but it'd be nice if they found a way to bring back guys like Berry, or Little Lincoln, or other characters. Find a way to use em again, I'm sure they'd be a blast second time around.

I think Berry and Lincol especially have the potential to be more then 1 shot characters if done properly.

Oh man...I don't even wanna think about what Berry might be like if she ever frees herself from that rubberband ball and makes her way back to the house. Talk about vengeance...eep. :-/

InsaneFan

12-13-2006, 11:22 AM

Hahaha, definately an episode worth watching! xD

Ridureyu

03-26-2007, 02:07 AM

Just a few things:

1. If a male character did any of the things that Berry did, he would have no supporters. At all.

2. You do know that it's bad to say, "I relate so much to the psycho-stalker girl! I act just like her!", right?

3. Whoever said that Berry needs to have a crush on Cheese is officially the best person. Ever. that episode would be HILARIOUS!

moonpony

03-27-2007, 02:59 PM

Berry had to have been created by a pre-teen girl who was also a child of divorce. She craves friendship and attention.

BTW, that screen grab of Berry and Bloo on a date is PRICELESS!:berry:

The Huntsman

06-25-2007, 12:44 AM

It has been quite some time since I discussed this series, though even back when I was a reviewer on TVTome, Berry was always my favorite character. I know that people have claimed that she was just pure evil, but I believe that she was actually a victim of circumstance, even though others have already rejected that notion. Either way, Berry is my favorite Imaginary Friend and I wish she would return someday; I doubt that such will ever take place, unfortunately.

One Radical Dude

06-25-2007, 12:50 AM

The Huntsman

06-25-2007, 12:52 AM

Whoa, it has been a while, hasn't it?

You may be right, Huntsman. As for her return, while it appears to be unlikely, it's not completely out of the question.
Yeah, though at least she was used in that adoption type game they had a few years back. I don’t remember much about it, and I pretty much missed the entire fourth season, though the fact that she was used when some other popular characters weren’t was at least something her fans could appreciate.

Cassini90125

06-25-2007, 01:02 AM

I seldom think about Berry very often. She was not a bad character; I enjoyed her episode a lot when I first saw it, although for me it wore thin after awhile. But as with Bendy and Red I wouldn't mind seeing her return as a guest star.

The Huntsman

06-25-2007, 01:10 AM

I just wonder if Berry would have been handled differently if that episode were made today, rather than back when it actually was. The episode Duchess of Wails always irked me because they introduced that plaque, which talked about how even mean friends are welcome in the home, though in Berry Scary, nobody seemed to care that Berry was more-or-less evicted from the home. I once wrote a Theory / FAQ and even though it was deeply flawed, even more-so now since so much time has passed, I still believe that Imaginary Friends are really stuck the way they’re created, and I don’t believe Berry was actually a villain.

Ub3rD4n

06-25-2007, 01:54 AM

The Huntsman

06-25-2007, 02:18 AM

That all depends on your definition of a villain. If your definition is someone who PURPOSELY acts like a jerk, then, no, she's not. But if your definition of a villain is someone who acts without taking anyone else's feelings or wellbeing into account, then yes, she is. She's entirely too focused on her relationship with Bloo, and doesn't think of anything else, really.
Perhaps Berry wouldn't have been so defensive about Bloo if he actually appreciated her, though. He kept forgetting her name and didn’t even seem to care about her many attempts to please him; sure, she was the type of character who didn’t care about what others thought, but Bloo did treat her pretty bad. I think she had thought that Bloo would care more about her if he didn’t care so much about Mac, though I digress.

jekylljuice

06-25-2007, 02:32 AM

I don't believe that Berry was truly evil myself - just twisted. I admit that I didn't care for her quite so much to begin with, but she grew on me with repeated viewings, and I agree that it's a shame that Foster's never tried to utilise her again.

In regard to her circumstantial eviction from the house, I'd kind of gotten the vibe that, even without the giant rubber band ball, she'd have been on her way out of there one way or another by her own free will. I think this was implied in her line "I can't believe I stayed in this stupid house, with these stupid people!", presumably an admission that she'd only remained at Foster's in the hopes of obtaining a relationship with Bloo (but possibly just a matter of hysterics). What would seem contrary to the Foster's creedo would be if Wally had really been evicted, as Mac had speculated in "the Big Picture".

Whether we see any further activity from her or not, Berry's legacy undoubtedly lives on. Nowadays it's impossible for me to watch Stacey's scenes in Wayne's World without being reminded of Berry. :scaryberry:

Ub3rD4n

06-25-2007, 05:36 PM

I can only assume that Mac's spectulation in The Big Picture was him being forgetful, cause there are plenty of kids who'd love a friend like Wally. And back on topic, yeah, I think the words "twisted" and "mentally unstable" better describe Berry than "Evil". In fact, I don't think there's any flat-out evil characters in Fosters. Although, again, this all depends on definition.

Cassini90125

06-25-2007, 05:40 PM

I agree. "Unstable", in particular, seems to fit her. I might add "Obsessive" to that list, too. As for truly evil characters, again I agree; I haven't seen anyone who truly fits my definition of evil. I guess the closest would be Lil Lincoln.

kageri

06-25-2007, 09:20 PM

I've noticed the lack of ineherently evil characters, and it's one of the things I like about Foster's: no character is completely good or completey bad. Well, Duchess hasn't shown many redeeming qualities aside from being funny, but she hasn't really shown any desire to kill people or anything either.

And, to make this a bit more on-topic, I agree that Berry is just... unstable. It's not surprising that there'd be a few wacky IF's, since they have as much of a possible range in personalities as people do. I wouldn't mind seeing Berry return, either; it'd be a nice break from all the Cheese.

Medikor

06-26-2007, 12:54 PM

I'd love to see Berry come back. Her episode is one of my all time faves. I'd be happy if we only get to see her role past the screen on that rubber-band ball once every few seasons.8D

Mr. Marshmallow

06-27-2007, 02:09 PM

I think of all the "other" characters that have appeared on Foster's, Berry truly deserves to come back the most and I really think she would be the most interesting. I know many people on here love Red and would like to see him again (I would too), but in honesty, Red coming back wouldn't really make a big diff.

His character is too simplistic to scream out a "MUST RETURN" kind of thing for him. The nice thing about Berry is that she is a bonified, solid, through and through villain. Let's face it, we can sympathize with her all we want but in the end she's a bad guy just like Kip, Little Lincoln, Duchess and the Swapper.

I kind of got upset when people said Berry isn't evil and that she only acts this way because of how she was treated in all that speculatory about her background. I personally don't see why it's so hard to accept the fact that imaginary friends can BE evil by nature, they can be bad just by who they are.

I think Berry would be SWEET to see come back, odds are she's even crazier then she was before after rolling around on a giant rubber band ball for countless episodes.

The Huntsman

06-27-2007, 10:49 PM

I kind of got upset when people said Berry isn't evil and that she only acts this way because of how she was treated in all that speculatory about her background. I personally don't see why it's so hard to accept the fact that imaginary friends can BE evil by nature, they can be bad just by who they are.
That?s the thing that always bothered me, though. If Berry is evil by design, then isn?t she a victim of her own creation? As I?ve said, I?ve missed a lot of episodes, though has there been any episodic evidence that a good Imaginary Friend can turn evil, or have a drastic change in personality? There might have been, as I?ve only just recently began watching the series again, though this subject has always fascinated me.

jekylljuice

06-28-2007, 04:50 AM

That’s the thing that always bothered me, though. If Berry is evil by design, then isn’t she a victim of her own creation? As I’ve said, I’ve missed a lot of episodes, though has there been any episodic evidence that a good Imaginary Friend can turn evil, or have a drastic change in personality? There might have been, as I’ve only just recently began watching the series again, though this subject has always fascinated me.

While not a conversion from good to evil, the TV special "Good Wilt Hunting" certainly demonstrated that Imaginary Friends can have personality changes and be affected by significant or traumatic events in their lives, much like people. I don't want to ruin it for you if you haven't seen it, but it gave as a chance to finally learn more about Wilt's background, and see that there was once a time in which he was more carefree and self-confident than he has generally been portrayed as throughout the series.

I don't believe that Berry was necessarily the way she is by creation, but at the same time I don't believe that it's necessarily her own fault. Much as people are products of their genetic and social enviroments, I would say that the personality of an IF is shaped largely by the kind of background they've had. Obviously, their means of creation seems to rule inherited genetic factors out, but they are still very much products of their human creator's pyschological frame of mind, and GWH additionally suggested that IFs may also be reflective of their creators' subconscious desires - a child may be inclined to create a friend with specific personality feats for reasons that they may not immediately be aware of. At the same time, IFs have autonomy and the ability grow and develop indepentently of their creators. The reasons behind Berry's antagonism may not have been revelent to the episode itself, but I personally feel that there's still room to speculate about her past life and how it may have influenced her, much as fans always did with Wilt prior to GWH, even if we're unlikely to ever find out for sure.

Mr. Marshmallow

06-28-2007, 03:25 PM

While I agree Berry has a lot of elbow room for her background to be developed, the problem is people often WANT their to be something more to a character then there actually is. For all we know, a lot of the IFs there could have backgrounds that pose similar problems or situations that shaped them into who they are.

But in my opinion, I really don't think ANYthing the IFs go through will 100% change who they really are. Wilt may have been more care free back in his older days but comparing how he is now to how he was then, he wasn't that dramatically altered. He's changed yes, but not that much when you consider his personality and the way he acts.

Look at Red, the only thing he shared with Terrance was his stupidity. Red was born to kill Bloo and smash him yet Red doesn't have a mean bone in his body in truth. Didn't matter what Terrance said or did, the fact is Red is the way he is and no matter what he was told or forced to do, his true personality became evident.

Berry to me is and will ALWAYS be the obsessive, psycho, crush, maniac little pink blob she's always been. My only speculation about her past is that she was given up BECAUSE of her personality, that she became too insanely obsessed with her creator or that creator's friend, or dog, or mom or whatever. I see absolutely zero remote possibility she was "abused" or hit.

Imaginary friends in truth, don't really change, none of the IFs in the main or miscellanous cast have completely departed from their basic personality functions. We've been with Bloo since the beginning and while he has show signs of change a few times, majority of the time, he is still the same old Bloo. Same with Wilt, same with Eduardo, and same with any other IF.

jekylljuice

06-28-2007, 04:26 PM

Red, in my opinion, is a pretty good illustration of how a child’s subconscious desires can influence the personality of their imaginary friends. We know from Terrence’s penchant for soap operas that he does have at least an inkling of a soft and sensitive side deep down, and it’s perfectly possible that Red, in many ways, is an embodiment of that. That he ultimately found more sympathy in his supposed enemy Bloo than in his creator is what sealed his loyalties. It also seems to me that Red does have a mean and violent side of his own but he'll only use it for defensive purposes and when pushed too far, as he finally demonstrated with Terrence. You could argue really that Red inherited a lot from his creator, but that he just channelled these personality traits in completely different ways. ;D

To be honest, Berry’s background isn’t really something I’ve thought about too extensively myself (and it wouldn‘t necessarily have had to involve anything terribly shocking or dramatic like physical abuse to have made her who she was, just what kind of influences she received throughout life), but I can’t really blame her fans for wanting to speculate on the matter, even if it goes beyond what the writers have implied and intended. When you like or take an interest in a particular character, especially one with rather vague background details, you do kind of instinctively want to know more and to get thinking of the possibilities. It's only natural. :bloogrin:

FeDeReR

07-16-2007, 05:50 AM

what do you think about her? :berry:

Little Baby IceCream

07-16-2007, 07:02 AM

I like Berry! She's kind of like me. I can be sweet when I want to be, but also have an attitude when I want to have one.

~Little Baby IceCream~

ptps

07-16-2007, 07:18 AM

You... obviously didn't go through the forum FAQ. Did you, Fed.

Also: http://www.fosters-home.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135

Cassini90125

07-16-2007, 08:04 AM

what do you think about her? :berry:

In the future, please use the Search feature before starting a new thread. Also, please review the Rules section about "Subject-Only" threads. :herriman:

You... obviously didn't go through the forum FAQ. Did you, Fed.

Also: http://www.fosters-home.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135

It's been dealt with. Back to you, Berry. :scaryberry:

The Huntsman

09-14-2007, 07:16 PM

So, our vinaceous little vixen returned, and she was as venomous as ever. I had been calling for Berry to return since right after Berry Scary, and I am quite pleased with how she was handled. I still believe that Berry is a victim of her own existence, as even if she was created with all of her problems, such is the fault of her creator. Still, she had quite an impressive plan in the recent episode she appeared in. She invaded a home, kidnapped and imprisoned its owners for several weeks, masqueraded as a human, and then attempted to murder Mac. She has a hell of a lot of resolve and I admire her wickedness.

The one thing I found a bit odd was how “Barry” and Bloo merely played games and had fun. I know it was all a part of Berry’s plan, but I don’t think she would have the patience, and if the object of her desire was constantly within her grasp, one would think she would try to do something other than just play games with him. Still, at least she did manage to spend time with Bloo; he didn’t know who she was, as usual, but I still think Berry and Bloo make a cute couple, just like Frankie said in Berry Scary.

Ub3rD4n

09-15-2007, 02:23 AM

pitbulllady

09-15-2007, 11:31 AM

I think Berry is a pretty good match for Bloo, comparitively. I mean, she knew JUST what would get Bloo's attention, she's single-minded as he is, and she's manipulative like him, too. Shame for her that Bloo is simply not interested in a romantic relationship, being a five-year-old boy.

I wouldn't WANT Bloo, arrogant and self-centered as he can be, to be involved in a romance with someone who makes Hannibal Lector look sane! Berry is utterly psychotic AND very clever and creative, which makes her a threat on the same par as Buddy Pine/Syndrome from The Incredibles, more so, if you take size into consideration. For her to pull off what she did, just to entrap Mac and kill him, and win Bloo's loyalty, with her being only two feet tall, is nothing short of amazing, in a really frightening way.

pitbulllady

One Radical Dude

09-15-2007, 01:22 PM

I wouldn't WANT Bloo, arrogant and self-centered as he can be, to be involved in a romance with someone who makes Hannibal Lector look sane! Berry is utterly psychotic AND very clever and creative, which makes her a threat on the same par as Buddy Pine/Syndrome from The Incredibles, more so, if you take size into consideration. For her to pull off what she did, just to entrap Mac and kill him, and win Bloo's loyalty, with her being only two feet tall, is nothing short of amazing, in a really frightening way.

pitbulllady

Agreed. After watching Thursday's episode, I have even less sympathy for Berry. To me, Berry was more interested in separating Bloo and Mac, more than she "loves" Bloo. In my opinion, Berry and Bloo would NOT make a great pair.

The Huntsman

09-15-2007, 02:46 PM

Agreed. After watching Thursday's episode, I have even less sympathy for Berry. To me, Berry was more interested in separating Bloo and Mac, more than she "loves" Bloo. In my opinion, Berry and Bloo would NOT make a great pair.
I understand where you’re coming from, and you’re fully entitled to believe what you want. However, I implore you to take the time to consider the circumstances. Berry was truly in love with Bloo, and despite all that she had done for him, he didn’t even remember her name. When she first discovered that Bloo cared more about Mac, she perceived Mac as a threat, which caused her to go down the path that she is currently on. I’m not trying to justify what Berry did, as attempted murder is a horrible thing, but I believe Berry truly loved Bloo, and in her warped and twisted mind, she did what she felt she had to do. She wouldn’t have built a shrine for Bloo if she didn’t still love him, and even though revenge against Mac had a lot to do with her plan in this recent episode, it cannot be denied that she still longed for Bloo’s affection. Berry may be a sadistic individual, but in the end, she just wanted Bloo to love her; she was over-zealous, in that she wanted Bloo “all to herself”, but she still loved him. It was an obsessive love, but it’s love none-the-less.

You can sympathize with people and still completely disagree with them. I just ask for people to consider the circumstances and walk a mile in her shoes. She was created; she wasn’t born, and she didn’t have the luxury of defining her own existence. She likely had her mental problems since she was created and even though what she did was horrible, deceitful and wrong, she was doing what she felt that she had to do. After all, one cannot be responsible for the way that they were created.

Cassini90125

09-15-2007, 03:05 PM

I doubt she knows what love is. Even if she does, it seems to me that her "love" for Bloo is not as strong as her hatred of Mac.

The Huntsman

09-15-2007, 03:14 PM

I doubt she knows what love is. Even if she does, it seems to me that her "love" for Bloo is not as strong as her hatred of Mac.
That could be true, but I wish people wouldn’t look at this in shades of black-and-white. So many people have praised Foster’s for the level of depth that each character has, so why are people so eager to dismiss Berry as “nothing but evil”? Each character has their own set of merits and flaws; Berry may have more flaws than merits, but she still is an Imaginary Friend. She’s abandoned; she’s alone in the world and she doesn’t have an owner to help her out, or to set her on the right path. Granted, she might not listen to her owner even if she had one, but you still have to take such things into consideration.

Cassini90125

09-15-2007, 03:30 PM

She has my sympathy on that, if such is the case. I think she's characterized as "nothing but evil" because that's her role in the episodes she's been in. She's psychotic, I'm sure, but I don't believe that psychotic and evil are the same think. Nor are they entirely separate things, either. We can only judge her by what we see; we can speculate about her past, and ponder the subject of nature vs. nurture all we want, and perhaps try to make sense of her actions, but in the end we don't know what the circumstances of her creation were, or what happened between then and her arrival at Foster's. Without that knowledge, it's hard to judge her based on anything other than what we see on TV, and what we see isn't pretty, although it is funny.

The Huntsman

09-15-2007, 04:27 PM

Yeah, I think that’s something we can all agree on. Regardless of what we think about Berry, or whether we sympathize with her or not, she is one of the better villains in Foster’s and her psychotic nature permits some great scenes to take place.

The Huntsman

09-15-2007, 10:08 PM

Looking back at her recent episode, it’s still impressive how she managed to do everything that she did. She managed to physically force the family into the closet, and tie them up, and then she managed to gain access to their resources and hire a chauffeur. It’s obvious that the chauffeur didn’t work for the family, as he would have known that Barry Bling wasn’t the resident of the home. She then managed to live in the home for weeks, while keeping the family imprisoned, and she masqueraded as a spoiled rich kid who had the credentials to be real. She even planned ahead and had several different Barry Bling costumes, and she had time to build a huge shrine to Bloo so that she could idolize him in his absence. When all was said and done, she managed to spend weeks with Bloo, and she successfully drove a wedge between Mac and Bloo without really lifting a finger, except for the final day. Add to that the fact that she tried to kill Mac and you have one hell of a lot of scheming.

It’s as pitbulllady said; “Berry is utterly psychotic AND very clever and creative, which makes her a threat on the same par as Buddy Pine/Syndrome from The Incredibles, more so, if you take size into consideration. For her to pull off what she did, just to entrap Mac and kill him, and win Bloo's loyalty, with her being only two feet tall, is nothing short of amazing, in a really frightening way”.

Mr. Marshmallow

09-15-2007, 11:41 PM

She then managed to live in the home for weeks, while keeping the family imprisoned, and she masqueraded as a spoiled rich kid who had the credentials to be real. She even planned ahead and had several different Barry Bling costumes, and she had time to build a huge shrine to Bloo so that she could idolize him in his absence. When all was said and done, she managed to spend weeks with Bloo, and she successfully drove a wedge between Mac and Bloo without really lifting a finger, except for the final day. Add to that the fact that she tried to kill Mac and you have one hell of a lot of scheming.

This is a very good point and this is a the very SAME reason why I believe Berry is a evil, crazy, demented little imaginary friend. I honestly can't see how any faith or weight can be put into hypothetical origin stories saying she was abused or anything like that because it's too open for anything to happen.

I could say she's from an alternate dimension from the planet Krypton and she traveled to her in a meteor with her little suitcase. Unless it's stated or given any kind of indication, it's anyone's guess, anyone's game, and full of too many holes to be durable. I don't sympathize for Berry because her situation is nothing new.

EVERY imaginary friend was abandoned (more or less) and you don't see them going ape crazy and trying to kill people. I also believe Berry is evil AND psychotic and here's why: Like the Huntsman said, everything Berry did for this new episode required MASS amounts of concentration and planning.

Someone who is totally off their rocker couldn't possibly create such an elaborate plan of revenge, and that's the keyword here: revenge. Berry was intentionally trying to KILL Mac, she wanted him to suffer and she wanted to get rid of him for good. She went beyond the call of duty just to get back at him.

For someone to take that much thought and hard work just to get back at one little boy for a "boyfriend" who can't even remember her own name, that's CRAZY and EVIL. Berry kidnapped people, attempted to kill Mac, mocked him, and stole a house and all it's riches to satisfy her own personal needs.

She's a true head case and a TRUE villain, the stuff she pulled in that episode is not a mean spirited prank or your typical kind of behavior for a character in a show like this, Berry was TRULY psychotic and menacing. Feel sorry for her all you want, but I can't for the life of me understand how anyone can sympathize someone who went through so much trouble to kill one 8 year old little boy.

The Huntsman

09-16-2007, 12:04 AM

This is a very good point and this is a the very SAME reason why I believe Berry is a evil, crazy, demented little imaginary friend. I honestly can't see how any faith or weight can be put into hypothetical origin stories saying she was abused or anything like that because it's too open for anything to happen.
I never said that she was abused. I said that she was created flawed. It?s sort of how Red was created to be evil, but he turned out to be a good guy. I?m pretty sure that when Berry was created, she was created with all of her problems. I highly doubt that Berry was a ?normal? Imaginary Friend who suddenly decided to join the Dark Side. Granted, I respect your right to believe what you want; I?m not trying to convince anybody to anoint Berry as a saint or anything. I?m not trying to justify what she did and I?m not saying that she has room for salvation. However, I do believe that Berry was created with her emotional baggage, and through such, she couldn?t really help but do what she did.

Nice post, at any rate. Thanks for taking the time to write that up.

Mr. Marshmallow

09-16-2007, 12:14 AM

I never said that she was abused. However, I do believe that Berry was created with her emotional baggage, and through such, she couldn’t really help but do what she did.

Nice post, at any rate. Thanks for taking the time to write that up.

I know you didn't, others have said that sort of where the sympathy thing came from originally. Granted Berry may have been created with emotional baggage, it's obvious creators that not all creators can create an accurate 100% desired personality. Look at Terrance and Red, Mac and Bloo, Madame Foster and Mr, Herriman.

I believe Berry is the way she is because of who she is. Granted being made by someone else houses responsibility on the creator, but I think imaginary friends have proven on more than once occasion that who they are personally is more dominant then who their creators are personally. Again that's just me.

EDIT: Oh yeah, sure, no problem, I loved putting deep thoughts into posts like these.

Cassini90125

09-16-2007, 06:18 PM

And now, she has a shirt:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170150008454&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1

Probably available at Hot Topic, too. 16 hours to go as of this writing.

Sparky

09-16-2007, 07:07 PM

Yeah that shirt's been brought up in the Company Store board, and I or someone else may have posted photos of it, I can't remember.

Bloo2daMacs

09-16-2007, 08:13 PM

I was really surprised Berry appeared in the last episode. Throughout I kept on thinking "Why is he named Barry? I've never heard of two one-time characters with the same name pronunciation...."

Then when I noticed the macaroni statue, I thought it was just that "Barry" was insane over Bloo, and it was just a joke/reference to older episodes.

But then, when Berry appeared.... oh the irony, the irony.

Anywhoosen, I still can't believe she tried to run into Mac's head with a train. That is one love-crazy, two-foot tall, evil mastermind.

InsaneFan

09-20-2007, 04:11 PM

Seeing Berry again in AWF made me rediculously happy. ^^

Have I ever commented on how h00j some posts are on this forum are? Y'ALL MAKE IT HARD TO CATCH UP ON THINGS. >.< Please note that my annoyance is coupled with joy, as they're fun to read anyway. ^^

Both views are interesting. I think, however, that she's just a funny, obsessive villain character that's fun to watch. Maybe more thought than that was put into her character from her very beginning, but I wouldn't know. We'd have to ask the Foster's crew to really find out. Until then, we can each be content with what we have come up with ourselves.

On another note, anyone wanna see the new Berry video I made? I'd put it in the Fan Creations board...But I'm just too lazy. ^^
Berry is Cute (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4BckbqvGNs)

Points to you if you like Animaniacs. Why? Because I said so.

Sparky

10-04-2007, 06:30 PM

P.S. What's AWF? I'm a little clueless...

"Affair Weather Friends". When you see someone using initials and you don't know what they mean, first try to see if they could stand for an episode name. ;)

antgirl1

10-04-2007, 08:28 PM

Wouldn't it be scary if Berry had a crush on Wilt?

"You love that retarded brown rubber ball more than ME!!"

8D

Tora Yakari

10-15-2007, 02:13 PM

Late poster is late. %D
BUT HI I'M TORA, NICE TO MEET YOU ALL. RAWR. :scaryberry:
So I guess I'll give my thoughts.

When I first saw Berry Scary the first thing I thought was that Bloo and Berry would make the cutest couple ever. XD But as I watched the episode over and over again I just started to realize how kick ass Berry just was in general. I as loved adorable or innocent looking characters that deep down will evil, insane or homicidal. So she became my favorite character, and patiently waited for her return.
I must say, Affair Weather Friends was a pretty awesome comeback for her. She's definitely got smart under all that crazy, as she managed to break into the Bling mansion, tie up and lock away the real Barry and his family, fool the servants/butlers/anyone else who had association with the Blings in order to use their resources. That's pretty amazing she managed to do that.
It just proves how more insane she is. XD Though, I did wonder.... would Berry be nearly this crazy if she weren't in love with Bloo? Most of her insanity and actions upon that seem to caused by Bloo. So that leaves us with the thought... was Berry ALWAYS insane? Or did she just one day go crazy, possibly because of Bloo?

Maybe, but I also have a theory about Berry's creation. I think she was created by a kid who belonged to a rich family, and along with her kid, was forced to be kind, sweet, polite, and proper all the time. However this wasn't Berry's real nature, as the kid created her so they'd have a friend to get away from all the fancy and proper stuff they were forced to do on the daily basis. Eventually this drove Berry completely mad and either 1 of 2 things happened:
1) She was kicked out by the family because they figured she'd gone nuts
2) She went completely psycho and killed the family. Obviously if this happen she must've created the perfect murder crime, through alot of careful planning, much like the Bling caper. That or the police would never believe a "cute, sweet" little imaginary friend like her would kill her own family.
So I think she was always crazy, but it might be interesting to think it was Bloo's fault she went off the deep end. XD

But holy crap, I talk too much. :gooblab: As Wilt would say, "Sorry, is that okay?"
Hope to be on these forums more, especially once and I get me and my friend Kevin's "Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends: The Abridged Series" up and running. ; )

Kisses,
~Tora <3

WiltsAKGirl17

10-16-2007, 06:01 PM

"Affair Weather Friends". When you see someone using initials and you don't know what they mean, first try to see if they could stand for an episode name. ;)

Oh, okay. Thank you Sparky.

"You love that retarded brown rubber ball more than ME!!"

8D

I can see that one coming from Berry!

Zeitgheist

10-18-2007, 06:55 AM

I lived in a mental hospital for 6 months when I was 12... so I sort of feel connected with Berry <3 except I don't have a sick obsession with Bloo, of course :cheesegrin: Which brings up a question... does she REALLY love Bloo? Or is it something else? D: I could never determine if she wanted to be his best friend or his girlfriend

Ub3rD4n

10-18-2007, 06:44 PM

Can of worms......I bid you OPEN!

My opinion (shared by most here, I think) is that she has a major crush on Bloo. She thinks she loves him. But I'm of the opinion (and this here's just me) that imaginary friends are too immature to fall in love. They love their friends and family, but I don't think they really know what romantic love really means. They just get crushes.

Mayor Adam West

10-19-2007, 12:31 AM

Yay for Berry!

I even saw her on BFAHP, but she seemed real nice on there, but still good to see her regardless.

Mayor Adam West

10-22-2007, 10:04 PM

Oh yeah, definitly want to give her a Mac Voodoo doll now, so she can get some real revenge :scaryberry:

Mr. Marshmallow

10-23-2007, 07:16 PM

Oh yeah, definitly want to give her a Mac Voodoo doll now, so she can get some real revenge :scaryberry:

I wouldn't. Berry nearly killed Mac twice, last thing she needs is any kind of tool that could help her psychotic nature indulge in her obsessive "Mac must die" desires.

Zeitgheist

10-24-2007, 07:45 AM

Considering it IS Berry, I'm guessing she prolly has a few voodoo dolls of Mac already :scaryberry:

Mac is my favorite character, but... go, Berry! :D Entertain us again! I really hope they bring her back in season 6, meaner and more villanous <3 If there's one thing I like about Berry, it's that she's the only REAL villain of the show. Usually it's Bloo who's the bad guy

Kamikaze

10-25-2007, 02:17 PM

I personnally think she's very cute, she became one of my one of my favorite characters fast, and I love her "Sweet and sour" personnality. I always enjoy the Bloo/Berry/Mac angle, always entertaining. I'm hoping that she'll have more appearances in the future, which I'm confident she will. Berry doesn't sound like the type that would give up yet

Lynnie

10-25-2007, 06:08 PM

I love Mac to death, but I think Berry is cute too, especially in "Berry Scary" when she says "Hi! I'm Beeerrryyy" in that cute dreamy way that she does. I say "Hi" like her all the time. :berry: I also love her line "Remember when I watched you watching me watching you watch...". Oh, and also the "I can doodle a snicker!" *and then some squeak comes out sounding something like "nk-nik!"*, lol! Again, although I love Mac to death, I think "Affair Weather Friends" is one of the greatest episodes ever simply because of the shock I went through at that famed plot twist. Aah, it was great.

Ridureyu

11-07-2007, 01:29 PM

You know, I think it's kind of hard to deny that Berry is evil after her most recent appearance...

antgirl1

11-13-2007, 06:26 PM

"You love that retarded brown rubber ball more than ME!!"

8D

I can see that one coming from Berry!

And then she'd try to kill the basketball with a big threading needle. If she succeeds with that, Wilt wouldn't be too happy. :(

Mayor Adam West

12-12-2007, 01:41 AM

So? It's Berry! She's like one of the best along side Eduardo! But if she did something like that to Eduardo, that would be sad :'(

Cassini90125

12-12-2007, 07:16 AM

I'm wondering how Eduardo would react if she vented her frustrations on Baby Pacho. Funny for us, I imagine; not so much fun for Berry. :edmad:

Y'all think the little psycho will be back again? :scaryberry:

pitbulllady

12-12-2007, 11:13 AM

I don't think we've seen the last of her. Like "Jason" or "Michael Myers", she's just gonna keep popping up when you least expect it, just to make things interesting, and probably failing to show just when everyone is thinking, "now this would be a good opportunity for Berry to show up and try to kill Mac again, when he's off-guard". That makes for an interesting character, because you never know when they'll show up again or what lengths they'll go to next. I won't say she's a LIKABLE character, because she IS dangerous and psychotic, but she's definitely INTERESTING.

pitbulllady

Ridureyu

12-12-2007, 11:34 AM

Cassini90125

12-12-2007, 01:57 PM

I don't think we've seen the last of her. Like "Jason" or "Michael Myers", she's just gonna keep popping up when you least expect it, just to make things interesting...

pitbulllady

Interesting comparisons! 8D

Hmm... Child's Play 10: Berry vs. Chucky... :scaryberry:

pitbulllady

12-12-2007, 02:31 PM

Berry's had two excellent episodes so far. I appreciate the fact that it's been two, not twelve. It's the same principle as Mr. Freeze in Batman: TAS. He only appeared three or four times, but each time was very, very menorable. Not overused, used well.

Very good point! She IS interesting in part because of her unpredictability; if you have no idea when she'll show up, that's a lot more interesting than if she's in every other episode or if she's being shoved-butcher knife and all-down our throats. That also makes her more of a realistic threat, rather than just someone there for comic relief. By not overusing her as a threat, this makes her much more menacing.

Cassini, I can see a "Fangoria" magazine special issue-"Berry vs. Chuckie", with the winner to take on Freddy! That'll beat "Freddy vs. Jason" hands-down, any day!

pitbulllady

Ub3rD4n

12-12-2007, 03:00 PM

Well, Berry doesn't strike me as evil per se, since she clearly has some serious sanity issues she needs to work out. This may be letting her off on a technicality, but allow me my viewpoint, as it lets me enjoy her appearances more than if she was simply abusive.

Ridureyu

12-12-2007, 03:50 PM

pitbulllady

12-12-2007, 04:48 PM

the last thing I wannt to see is Berry, Duchess, Terrence, Bendy, etc. overused until they end up like this:

http://www.lacuracao.com/images/products/104/151647-4-1-99.DIS_D25271D.jpg

Is there a law somewhere that says evil people have to do the "EEEEVIL grin" whenever they're happy?

The scariest of psycho characters are the ones who, like Berry, look so innocent and harmless most of the time, and quickly lure you into a false sense of security. I mean, when she first showed up at Foster's in "Berry Scary", WHO would have ever thought that this cutesy little pink darling with big eyes and that little-girlie demeanor would be a close rival for Glenn Close's character in "Fatal Attraction"? To ME, those are the real psychopaths-the ones you least expect. I agree she's not evil per se, but she is a nut-case, a very dangerous one at that. Her sanity is definitely amiss, leaving her intelligence intact, which serves to make her all the more dangerous.

I never cared much for the Disney brand of villains myself, since it's so obvious as soon as you see them that they are the villains, even before they say or do anything, because of that stereotype that the "Bad Guys" have to be ugly and LOOK mean. It's not often that the Disney-esque movies spring a surprise on us like the folks who make Foster's did.

pitbulllady

BabyCharmander

12-12-2007, 07:00 PM

I won't say she's a LIKABLE character, because she IS dangerous and psychotic, but she's definitely INTERESTING.

That's pretty much how I feel about her. I don't LIKE Berry, but she's an interesting character and her episodes have been good. I was really really REALLY surprised in Affair Weather Friends. o____o Though it she appears in another episode, the "Barry" thing isn't going to work, so she's gonna' have to try something new.

Although I don't like her as a character (I tend to dislike mean characters XD;), she makes for interesting plots, so I would like to see her again.

Cassini90125

12-12-2007, 07:16 PM

She could show up claiming to be reformed. It might even be true, but it all comes undone when Bloo does something to set her off. Or maybe she fixates on someone else. I can see her in the foyer, looking over the rest of the IFs, softly saying to herself, "Now, who shall I choose as my new love?" The camera slowly pans across the room, surveying the assembled residents; it pauses on Cheese. Berry breaks the fourth wall, turns to us and says, "Oh, come on, I'm not that crazy! Next!" The camera moves on.

:cheesegrin: :scaryberry:

Mayor Adam West

12-12-2007, 08:11 PM

Ridureyu

12-12-2007, 09:29 PM

The scariest of psycho characters are the ones who, like Berry, look so innocent and harmless most of the time, and quickly lure you into a false sense of security. I mean, when she first showed up at Foster's in "Berry Scary", WHO would have ever thought that this cutesy little pink darling with big eyes and that little-girlie demeanor would be a close rival for Glenn Close's character in "Fatal Attraction"? To ME, those are the real psychopaths-the ones you least expect. I agree she's not evil per se, but she is a nut-case, a very dangerous one at that. Her sanity is definitely amiss, leaving her intelligence intact, which serves to make her all the more dangerous.

I never cared much for the Disney brand of villains myself, since it's so obvious as soon as you see them that they are the villains, even before they say or do anything, because of that stereotype that the "Bad Guys" have to be ugly and LOOK mean. It's not often that the Disney-esque movies spring a surprise on us like the folks who make Foster's did.

pitbulllady

I always thought that Frollo was the best part of Disney's Hunchback. That man was positively creepy. Gaston was another one - until the last third of the movie, he was just a muscleheaded buffoon. Then you learn that he's capable of murder.

My point was that "villains" are really easy to overuse. A little bit of Berry goes a long way, and helps keep her fresh.

jekylljuice

12-13-2007, 03:04 AM

I always thought that Frollo was the best part of Disney's Hunchback. That man was positively creepy. Gaston was another one - until the last third of the movie, he was just a muscleheaded buffoon. Then you learn that he's capable of murder.

My point was that "villains" are really easy to overuse. A little bit of Berry goes a long way, and helps keep her fresh.

Yeah, Frollo's a good one, certainly a lot more interesting than your average Disney antagonist - in part because, unlike most Disney villains who spend all their time covetting their more "charismatic" older sibling's power or wealth, he actually starts out as the richest and most powerful man in Paris, and he has nowhere else to go from there but completely insane. Plus, Tony Jay was magnificent as his vocal chords.

As for Berry, she's always been a tricky one for me. I was somewhat ambivalent toward her when I first saw "Berry Scary", she grew on me with repeated viewings, I was as gob-smacked by her surprise return this season as everyone else, but now that those feelings have had time to settle I feel like I've kind of had my Berry fill and I'm personally not so bothered about whether or not she shows up for a third time. No offence to her fans or anything, but she's never been one of my favourite characters and there is something about her violently overbearing zeal which I find slightly repellent. I'd be perfectly contented for them to put a lid on it for a while.

Hinata4

04-22-2008, 03:51 AM

Haha! He looked like he wanted to melt into a puddle and slink away.

Yup :frankiesmile:

Cell_Phone_guy

08-19-2008, 07:59 PM

I wonder what would happen if Berry met Cheese and/or the Bloo clones either created by Goo or Mac's classmates?

:cheesegrin: :berry:

::) ::) ::) ::) :berry:

Cassini90125

08-19-2008, 08:16 PM

I wonder what would happen if Berry met Cheese and/or the Bloo clones either created by Goo or Mac's classmates?

:cheesegrin: :berry:

::) ::) ::) ::) :berry:

For the latter, I'd guess she'd berate them for not being as "wonderful" as the original, whom she'd then make ga-ga eyes at. He'd be oblivious. :bloocross:

For the former, she'd roll her eyes and wonder what Louise was thinking. 8D

taranchula

08-20-2008, 07:08 AM

For the former, she'd roll her eyes and wonder what Louise was thinking. 8D

Then Cheese will mistake Berry's rejection for affection and try to become her "friend for life" leading to a very wacky and zany situation reminiscent of the comedy programs of yore.

GooGoo

08-23-2009, 07:41 AM

I love Berry!
She's my favorite character, next to Cheese.
:berry::scaryberry:

Minatart

11-28-2011, 07:50 PM

Berry is just too cute<3
I love her berry much :)

KazooBloo

12-02-2016, 11:02 PM

Berry was cool.

SunsetJunction

06-09-2017, 05:39 PM

This IS Foster's related, but I didn't know where else to put this without reviving an old thread, so my apologies. I also didn't think it was necessary to make a new thread for it... Anyways, today I found out what (maybe) happened to Berry after Affair Weather Friends. Since Berry is my favorite character, it definitely made MY day.

Basically, I was browsing the Foster's wiki and clicked on a page to an article on a Foster's comic, which was also a crossover with the Powerpuff Girls and other CN shows I guess, called Powerpuff Girls Super Smash-Up, from 2015. I read on the page that Berry was in it, so I got excited and searched for the comic, finding a video with all the panels of the comic. In the video for the 4th issue of the comic, a few minutes in Berry can be seen among other friends at the house in one panel, meaning either the comic is non-canon (probably) or Berry escaped the rubber band ball and came back to Foster's sometime after Affair Weather Friends.

Anyways, just an interesting lil thing I found, this is my new headcanon, replacing my old headcanon that Berry died. Again, my apologies since this probably isn't the best place to post this.

(Big image so I left it as a link)

She's in the bottom right corner. (https://s14.postimg.org/prazs1t41/Screenshot_20170609-173008.png)

KazooBloo

06-16-2017, 11:45 PM

What made you think Berry died?

SunsetJunction

06-17-2017, 12:50 PM

What made you think Berry died?

Just because she was never seen again after Affair Weather Friends. Sure, a lot of other characters were not seen again either after their first appearance, such as Red, but Berry looked to be in an actual dangerous situation, she was rolling towards hills and could have potentially gotten seriously injured and/or killed if she fell off the edge too far. I'm going way too into this lol...

(P.S. If you're reading this, thanks to whoever moved my post lol... I wasn't aware that on this forum you can revive older threads without getting into trouble. On other forums I go to you can get warned for reviving threads older than a month old.)