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bloonuggets
11-15-2006, 01:49 PM
Okay, let's talk about the return of Goo in "Make Believe It Or Not."

In this episode, she imagines the villians from a video game call "Make Believe" that trap Bloo and Mac, and now it's up to her and the others to save them.

Cassini90125
11-15-2006, 01:56 PM
Does no one read the Rules?? :herriman:

PLEASE try not to start subject-only threads. That means, no topic called "Madame Foster" containing the message "Everyone talk about Madame Foster." If you want people to talk about Madame Foster, launch the discussion yourself. It's not fair to ask everyone else to talk about something if you're not willing to start the discussion. Also, nothing like "Who's your favorite character?" without you actually stating who your favorite character is. If you're going to start a thread, your first post must contribute something to the conversation.

This feels like a subject-only thread. Bloonuggets, would you please add something we don't already know to your opening post?

Kzinistzerg
11-15-2006, 04:15 PM
And, by the way, it's a weee bit early...

Voxxyn
11-16-2006, 11:12 AM
I don't see what's so bad about starting an episode thread just days before it airs. It's fun to speculate and wonder what will happen.

Though I have a feeling some here will vote F solely because they hate Goo... :goo:

montitech
11-16-2006, 12:05 PM
I don't see what's so bad about starting an episode thread just days before it airs. It's fun to speculate and wonder what will happen.

Though I have a feeling some here will vote F solely because they hate Goo... :goo:

I think it is premature for the poll to go up, but having a convesation on speculation about the eppisode is different. too bad there was not a lot of information released about this eppisode. so most speculation may be closer to Fan Fiction :D

I hope we see cheese:cheese:
:gooblab: :gooblab: :gooblab:
Monty :-/

Voxxyn
11-16-2006, 04:45 PM
I hope this episode has tons of videogaming references and jokes. "The Sweet Stench of Success" and "One False Movie" respectively did a great job making fun of the television and film industries, and I think MBION has similar potential for the gaming world.

Since we've gone through two consecutive episodes without Goo appearing, I won't be so bothered if she gets the spotlight in this episode. (Just as long as she doesn't completely overshadow the main characters)

taranchula
11-17-2006, 05:59 AM
I hope this episode has tons of videogaming references and jokes. "The Sweet Stench of Success" and "One False Movie" respectively did a great job making fun of the television and film industries, and I think MBION has similar potential for the gaming world.

Since we've gone through two consecutive episodes without Goo appearing, I won't be so bothered if she gets the spotlight in this episode. (Just as long as she doesn't completely overshadow the main characters)

An episode about video games, airing on the same weekend that Sony and Nintendo are releasing their new systems. That can't be a coincidence. :P

Yeah like Voxxyn said if they ramp up the video game references, this should be a fun episode.

And if that is the case then I know I will love this episode regardless of which character is in the spotlight.

Nathander
11-17-2006, 07:00 AM
In a lot of ways, I both dreading and looking forward to this episode. Primarily, I'm looking forward to it because I love Goo, but I'm dreading it because of their misuse of the character (tendency to use her too often, letting her overshadow the characters, ect). While I want to see it, I still haven't made up my mind if I'm going to catch it tonight or wait until a repeat and read you guys thoughts first. :( I really need to be more decisive.....

antgirl1
11-17-2006, 07:05 AM
Does no one read the Rules?? :herriman:

Probably not. It's good to know I won't do THAT again. XDD

bloonuggets
11-17-2006, 07:34 AM
"An episode about video games, airing on the same weekend that Sony and Nintendo are releasing their new systems. That can't be a coincidence."

Mmmmmm...could beeeeeee.

bigdog
11-17-2006, 04:32 PM
I just saw it. It was amazing and Goo has never been portrayed better, the imagination part of the show was at an all time high and I was laughing all through the episode!

Hilary Brittanny Lollipop Star! Whooo! haha.

antgirl1
11-17-2006, 04:35 PM
Aww! Goo is SO cute With her little braids all down like that. :goo:

Bloo: *is attacking Mac*
Mac: Bloo! What are you doing? We're on the same side! I'M A GOOD GUY!
Bloo: What-? Then who are we supposed to fight? Who's the bad guy??
*all stare at Wilt, whose still seated on the office chair*
Wilt: ...Oh all right.

This part makes me giggle. The look one Wilt's face says "Oh, you've got to be kidding,"

It's nice to see a glimpse of where Goo lives...hee hee!

Wilt: Whoa, guys, calm down! Let's just go back to attacking me, okay?

I loved that line too. XDD

k0ugs
11-17-2006, 04:36 PM
not one of my favs, although i will still put it on youtube after i get the second airing with the full screen credits :)

LaBlooGirl
11-17-2006, 04:40 PM
WOW. I can't even say enough how much I LOVED this episode!! Go Wilt!! He took the lead and handled everything smoothly, and might I add he was hilarious as the villian! I absolutely loved his scenes to death, but I'll let PBL do the main talking about him! ^_^

Mac's "glamour shot" was so awesome, I thought he looked quite handsome! LOL For a nine year old, anyway. ^^ That was great, those glamour shots, I really enjoyed seeing all of them (Bloo cracks me up the most, he tries to be so dashing and perfect), and Wilt looked like a transformer! lol

Goo was excellent, they brought some more depth into the character with this and I felt kinda bad for her when she was all sad because she was feeling left out. But awww, leave it to sweet Wilt to immediately notice and try to fit her in. (He is awfully golden-hearted, isn't he? He's thirty-something years old and still will play like a child if it makes others happy. Gotta love him!)

The only scene to bother me slightly (though I let it pass because Bloo cooperated at the end, FINALLY admitting to being a "sidekick") was Bloo ditching Mac in a "dangerous" moment. Even Mac was shocked by that one.

Can anyone explain to me their theories on this? Why does Bloo seem to have issues with Mac, especially on an authority level, where he thinks Mac is always trying to be "higher" than him (which he's not!!). I don't get it, because everyone knows Mac cares about Bloo ( or why would he be seeing him every day?) and yet Bloo feels he has to constantly prove himself around Mac all the time.
And yet, confusingly enough, when it comes down to it, he'll sometimes finally cooperate and everything ends well.

Hmmm......

pitbulllady
11-17-2006, 04:44 PM
Aww! Goo is SO cute With her little braids all down like that. :goo:

Bloo: *is attacking Mac*
Mac: Bloo! What are you doing? We're on the same side!
Bloo: Then who's the bad guy??
*all stare at Wilt, whose still seated on the office chair*
Wilt: ...Oh all right.

This part makes me giggle. The look one Wilt's face says "Oh, you've got to be kidding,"


I absolutely cracked up several times during that episode, ESPECIALLY with the usually-all-grown-up-and-serious Wilt having to play the bad guy, and getting a bit TOO much into character, much to the others' dismay! I really never would have figured Wilt to be much of an internet gaming junkie, either, but it goes to show that some of us uh, ahem...more mature folks can still hang on the 'net! "Lord Snotzak", ROTFLMAO! This episode was a wonderful tribute to the powers of imagination and the fine art of PRETENDING, something which many kids in this day and age simply cannot do. Bloo expressed the opinions of so many kids nowadays, "If it don't run on electricity it ain't worth doin'!"

This one rocked, Craig and Lauren!

pitbulllady

LosDosEduardos
11-17-2006, 04:47 PM
For anyone who hasn't seen the episode yet, let me make this statement just in case:

I'll give full credit to my favorite imaginary friend for saving Mac and Bloo.:-/

An A for a job well done.

Nathander
11-17-2006, 04:54 PM
I gave it a B. I would have given it an A, but there's a certain reason I didn't that I'll address later. Anyway, on to the positives of this episode:

GOO: I think that, for once since "Go, Goo, Go!", Goo has been used well in this episode. Not only that, but they've fixed the "Ed-bashing" problem Goo seemed to have had in a few episodes (thankfully; her apparent irritation with him made no sense to me) and brought her back more towards the character I'd imagined she'd be. This episode also confirmed something else that I've been thinking of, at least in my mind it has: Goo definantily has some form of abandonment issue. While eight year old girls (or boys) in general will try to be the centers of attention, Goo goes much farther than necessary to try to be noticed. While I may be overanalyzing it, I still say it stems from a possible abandonment issue, which I stated thoroughly in the Goo character thread discussion and see no need to state here.

I also found it interesting that there were absolutely no shots of her parents at her house, but that's an overanalyzation for another time.

ED: And the King's Assistant Baker saves the day! Go, Ed, Go! Thankfully, Ed played quite a large role in this episode, which was......refreshing, to say the least. I know it's naive to expect them to work all the characters in to an episode in even medium roles, but I think that Ed's been kinda getting the short end of the stick lately compared to the other two members of the elder Foster's trio (Wilt and Coco, of course). Honestly, I don't know what my deal is with Ed, but he never fails to entertain me.

BLOO AND MAC ARE BEING THE BEST BUDS: Thank you, Lord, for allowing us an episode this season other than "Squeeze the Day" where Mac and Bloo cooperate as best buds (at least for the most part; the chase scene kind of made me cringe and think they'd be fighting the entire rest of the episode after that). Seriously, I can't begin to describe how overjoyed I was to see them working and acting like friends.

BLOO'S ALIASES: You have to see them, as mere words cannot describe the joy they bring. His first gives off some of the single best lines in the episode. Honestly, I think that the joy Bloo's aliases in this episode bring goes to prove that Bloo is constructed of pure happiness and sunshine, lightly dipped in arsenic.

WILT: Wilt basically shines in any episode he's in, so of course this was no exception. It was nice, however, to see that he may be able to release some of his pent-up aggression (and if anyone deserves to have pent-up aggression with all they've been through, it's probably Wilt) through the miracle of make-believe; and the fact that he now has an army of nigh-invincible cronies. Man, they should just make a spin-off of THAT: a supergroup led by Wilt that fights crime. And this spoiler is going MUUUCH longer than it needs to be.

COCO: Kinda with Wilt: she has a tendency to shine. What more can I say.

HEART FACTOR: I felt that there were quite a few parts of this episode that were really heartfelt. Not so much as a few others, like "Go, Goo, Go" or the pilot "House of Bloo's" (btw, the first time I saw "House of Bloo's", I was almost about to cry when Mac was locked in the closet; just thought I'd share), but I think that some heartfelt moments were definantily there.

And now, for the bad part, and the only reason I didn't give it an A.....

Where were the video game references promised in the description of it? I saw maybe one, that the sequence where Goo is riding on Coco could easily be a reference to Yoshi, and that's about it. Honestly, I don't know what's happening as to why CN has been giving somewhat misleading/faulty descriptions for this episode and the last. Maybe it's not a big problem and I'm just an idiot who was paying enough attention to catch some of the video game references, but I'm a bit irked that, yet again, the description seemed slightly misleading. Who knows, with this kind of streak, "GWH" may not be about Wilt trying to find his creature, but fighting a giant squid monster. :(

But, overall, a genuinely delightful episode.

lucyrocks73
11-17-2006, 04:54 PM
I just watched it... I kept having to pause the Replay (the Tivo-esque thing) because my brother saw a mouse. That went into a ten minute search for the mouse. My dog is still looking for it...

As for the episode...I'm mixed.

Which is odd, since I'm such a huge Goo fan.

Well, I loved Goo in this. I really did. It showed some depth to her character, without adding all that extra angst we were debating about on the Goo forum.

The blatant Speed Racer and Dave the Barbarian parodying got me laughing- particuarly the Speed Racer because my brother is such a fan.

However, the plot seemed... odd.

Random. Yet odd.

And as everyone knows, this is the part of my review where I compare myself to Goo.

Ways Goo is like I was at her age:


She thinks about things nonstop, and never lets things go.
She couldn't stand anyone beating her at anything, particuarly a "mouth-off".
She sings (er.. well, she sings off-key. Not sure if I do.)
She dreams about things going on in her life (i.e. beating Mac at the "mouth-off")


However, when people don't pay attention to me, I just say a random word over and over again until someone gets annoyed and notices. Yesterday the word was 'potato', and I said it for three whole minutes before someone noticed.

CN needs help writing summaries. Does whoever writes them WATCH the episode first? Almost no video games involved.

Which I guess shows how creative the characters are. I mean, they designed that entire story/plot line themselves. I think Goo should become a writer, or an artist or something... She has an eye for detail.

Evil Wilt made me laugh hysterically. I LOVED the voice. It cracked me up...

I gave it a B. Just because it takes a whole lot to get an A from me. Only two episodes have ever gotten an A from me... Squeeze the Day and... well, I forget what the othe one was.

-Marty :goo:

LaBlooGirl
11-17-2006, 04:58 PM
Honestly, I think that the joy Bloo's aliases in this episode bring goes to prove that Bloo is constructed of pure happiness and sunshine, lightly dipped in arsenic.

LMAO!! That is about the BEST description of Bloo's personality EVER. 8D8D

pitbulllady
11-17-2006, 04:58 PM
WOW. I can't even say enough how much I LOVED this episode!! Go Wilt!! He took the lead and handled everything smoothly, and might I add he was hilarious as the villian! I absolutely loved his scenes to death, but I'll let PBL do the main talking about him! ^_^

Mac's "glamour shot" was so awesome, I thought he looked quite handsome! LOL For a nine year old, anyway. ^^ That was great, those glamour shots, I really enjoyed seeing all of them (Bloo cracks me up the most, he tries to be so dashing and perfect), and Wilt looked like a transformer! lol

Goo was excellent, they brought some more depth into the character with this and I felt kinda bad for her when she was all sad because she was feeling left out. But awww, leave it to sweet Wilt to immediately notice and try to fit her in. (He is awfully golden-hearted, isn't he? He's thirty-something years old and still will play like a child if it makes others happy. Gotta love him!)

The only scene to bother me slightly (though I let it pass because Bloo cooperated at the end, FINALLY admitting to being a "sidekick") was Bloo ditching Mac in a "dangerous" moment. Even Mac was shocked by that one.

Can anyone explain to me their theories on this? Why does Bloo seem to have issues with Mac, especially on an authority level, where he thinks Mac is always trying to be "higher" than him (which he's not!!). I don't get it, because everyone knows Mac cares about Bloo ( or why would he be seeing him every day?) and yet Bloo feels he has to constantly prove himself around Mac all the time.
And yet, confusingly enough, when it comes down to it, he'll sometimes finally cooperate and everything ends well.

Hmmm......

Seriously, "Lord Snotzak" was the most over-the-top villain alter-ego since Buddy Pine/Syndrome! And y'all can barely imagine how much I loooooove hearing Wilt speak in that deep commanding voice of his! It's just way too bad that Frankie wasn't in this one, since I can envision the look on Wilt's face if SHE had walked in with a load of laundry or something else for his "To Do List", and caught him with that collander on his head and an empty wrapping paper tube stuck on his stump of an arm! American Express could not have come up with anything more priceless! It is great to see someone like him, though, who can be all serious and responsible and adult when he needs to be, and yet still has enough "inner child" that he is able to put aside his adulthood and just be silly for the sake of having fun. I know it sounds stupid, but I can't help but think of what a great father he would actually be.

I don't know what was up with Bloo, though. It's odd for him to be afraid of anything, honestly; ESPECIALLY when it comes to defending Mac. I mean, in the pilot episode, he ATTACKED Eduardo like Pit Bull catching a wild hog when he mistakenly thought that Ed was going to hurt Mac! I guess Bloo's need to outshine everyone else, even his own creator, is really coming to the forefront of his personality. He's reminding me more and more of Mike Wazowski, and that's not a good thing. Still, you can't help but laugh at his "Bloominator" routine, though!

pitbulllady

LaBlooGirl
11-17-2006, 05:06 PM
Seriously, "Lord Snotzak" was the most over-the-top villain alter-ego since Buddy Pine/Syndrome! And y'all can barely imagine how much I loooooove hearing Wilt speak in that deep commanding voice of his! It's just way too bad that Frankie wasn't in this one, since I can envision the look on Wilt's face if SHE had walked in with a load of laundry or something else for his "To Do List", and caught him with that collander on his head and an empty wrapping paper tube stuck on his stump of an arm! American Express could not have come up with anything more priceless! It is great to see someone like him, though, who can be all serious and responsible and adult when he needs to be, and yet still has enough "inner child" that he is able to put aside his adulthood and just be silly for the sake of having fun. I know it sounds stupid, but I can't help but think of what a great father he would actually be.

I don't know what was up with Bloo, though. It's odd for him to be afraid of anything, honestly; ESPECIALLY when it comes to defending Mac. I mean, in the pilot episode, he ATTACKED Eduardo like Pit Bull catching a wild hog when he mistakenly thought that Ed was going to hurt Mac! I guess Bloo's need to outshine everyone else, even his own creator, is really coming to the forefront of his personality. He's reminding me more and more of Mike Wazowski, and that's not a good thing. Still, you can't help but laugh at his "Bloominator" routine, though!

pitbulllady

Well agreed, PBL. And it's not stupid at all to think of Wilt as a father. I think he'd be an AWESOME father, and to top it off, he's just great with kids and puts up with all their shinnanigans. (Even Bloo, who is the toughest to put up with, as we all know well.) Perhaps he even played a father figure to his creator, but I'm sure that's been suggested by others already.

Yes see that's what I mean about Bloo acting OOC here.....when it came to defending Mac, he was indeed trying to protect him from Ed in the pilot. But in this ep, he would have simply left Mac to his "fate", even if the situation was not REALLY dangerous. It's just the concept of it. THEY thought it was serious, knowing how kids can really get into their pretending, and they believed it as real, so again, Mac acted really shocked and I was just as shocked myself.
Bloo sometimes disappoints me but then again, he did help out in the end so he redeemed himself, thank God. I think he has to learn a LOT and it will take quite some time to understand the value of his friendship with Mac. But then again, Bloo's six...still quite immature and way too conceited. It's just going to take a LOT of time...LOL

Really loved this episode, hope to see more like it!

And might I add, I too, PBL, get shivers down my spine (in a good way!) when hearing Wilt. His voice is sooooo pleasant to listen to.

Voxxyn
11-17-2006, 05:19 PM
I had to miss the episode, so I'll have to catch the rerun. But let me say that it sounds GREAT. I'm glad to hear Goo is back to being likeable and cool.

Nathander
11-17-2006, 05:21 PM
Can anyone explain to me their theories on this? Why does Bloo seem to have issues with Mac, especially on an authority level, where he thinks Mac is always trying to be "higher" than him (which he's not!!). I don't get it, because everyone knows Mac cares about Bloo ( or why would he be seeing him every day?) and yet Bloo feels he has to constantly prove himself around Mac all the time.
And yet, confusingly enough, when it comes down to it, he'll sometimes finally cooperate and everything ends well.

Hmmm......

My personal feeling is that, on top of the brother/brother and best friend relationship the two have, there's also a father (Mac)/son (Bloo) relationship here which, despite his young age, you could say Bloo is, in a way, going through his "rebellious teenage years". The way I see it, since Mac acts like a father figure, Bloo will treat Mac, at times, like a father figure, which tends to be the same way he treats any authority figure: not necessarily disrespectful, but genuinely uncaring and unconcerned. However, like any son wants to prove himself to his father, so does Bloo want to prove himself to Mac, which includes going to desperate extremes occasionally.

Like you said, though, he'll eventually cooperate instead of trying to prove himself, and to a degree I think he's occasionally hurt by it, as it makes it seem like he can't be responsible enough for Mac. See, I still think that Bloo is a bit hurt after having been given up, and that maybe somewhere in the back of his li'l Bloo mind, he's afraid Mac will just eventually up and leave him. His intention, then, would be to try and keep Mac with him as long as possible, the best way to do this being to prove that he's worth coming to see.

HURRAY FOR OVERANALYSIS!!! :gooblab:

Vanikoro
11-17-2006, 05:54 PM
I saw it abput 2 hours ago, and I loved it.

First, I loved that Goo was not overused and had depth in this episode.:goo: And I also enjoyed how Wilt got quite into character when playing the villan. Lastly I like the Play-on-words names. (Rex Carsalot):bloogrin

All in all, I gave it an "A"

billytheskink
11-17-2006, 06:53 PM
The blatant Speed Racer and Dave the Barbarian parodying got me laughing- particuarly the Speed Racer because my brother is such a fan.

Those were very funny parts, though Bloonan the Blobarian is more of a parody of Conan the Barbarian than Dave, I'd say. Dave the Barbarian is pretty much a tounge-in-cheek shot at Conan as well.

Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in the 1982 Conan the Barbarian movie, so Bloo's Arnold-speak toward the end is probably a send up of that.

Overall, I enjoyed the episode, though the bizarre plot didn't have me engrossed like I thought it could have.
Mac and Goo trying to top each other's pretend weaponry was pretty darn funny; I did the same thing with friends when I was a kid.
I agree with those who say that Goo was well used. It was a plot that suited her well. However, it also reminds me why I don't really want to see her in every episode. I was a bit tired of seeing her by the end.

All in all, another solid effort by the Foster's crew.
I gave the episode a B. I figure that's fair for a good-not-great episode.

kageri
11-17-2006, 07:08 PM
.....Did Bloo say "owned"? Did he? I think he did.

Nathander
11-17-2006, 07:21 PM
Bloo says many wise things in this episode. Among them, yes, is the fabled "owned". Ponder upon it to discern its full meaning.

LaBlooGirl
11-17-2006, 07:25 PM
.....Did Bloo say "owned"? Did he? I think he did.

Bloo's great when he's just playing along with Mac and saying really funny or clever lines. Hence why I can't stand when people call him stupid...

Master Knight DH
11-17-2006, 07:29 PM
.....Did Bloo say "owned"? Did he? I think he did.

He did.

And Goo in PJs, whee.

kageri
11-17-2006, 07:33 PM
Bloo's great when he's just playing along with Mac and saying really funny or clever lines. Hence why I can't stand when people call him stupid...

He ditched Mac, though. I am mildly disturbed by that.

All in all..... well, it was an episode. The thing that bugged me about it was that the humor, and the episode in general, seemed to be more about the situation at hand than the characters, which is what they usually focus on.

antgirl1
11-17-2006, 07:54 PM
....I just wanna let you know...

ED LOOKS SO CHIBII LIKE AT THE END. IT'S CUUUUUTE! XDDD

GrimTheLost
11-17-2006, 08:14 PM
All in all..... well, it was an episode.

That is great.

I enjoyed the episode, but it would have been better if it had a better ending. Though Ed at the end was funny.

One Radical Dude
11-17-2006, 08:32 PM
Wow, I must say that this one blew me away. This is my favorite season finale so far (slightly edging Season Two's finale, which was my previous favorite season finale). This was definitely a step up from last week's "good, but not great" episode. I must say that Wilt definitely was da man in this episode. Yes, the younger audiences will really enjoy this one, but I believe even adults would, too. Ed was used well in this one, also. I loved the Bloo and Mac interaction in this one, almost as much as I did in Squeeze the Day. This episode felt like it had a bit more action than comedy, but that doesn't make it a bad episode at all. This one was definitely unique. I gave this one a well-deserving A. :)

Mr. Marshmallow
11-17-2006, 09:49 PM
Yeah.......I just got done watching it after I recorded since I was out during the premiere, and since I am too tired, hungry and lazy to go through everyone's posts on this thread, I'm gonna post my comments honestly and as thoroughly as I can.

.....This episode really....I don't know how to explain it. It wasn't that great honestly, it's just too weird for words and not the funny good weird way more like the....I can't explain what the hell I just saw weird way. There was some interesting things here but I think they were executed poorly.

The things I liked: Reference to older episodes about Goo's ability to not control her IFs, always nice to see. She was much better here and I LOVED how she actually got "owned" (hearing Bloo say that was priceless) and couldn't take defeat.

Goo was the only incredibly good part about this episode. The fact she has admitted to her mistakes, repeatively apologized to Mac for what happened, and that she couldn't control her IFs were all very new and unique things for Goo to work off of.

The Space boogies (or whatever there called) were unique looking and pretty cool. I loved the sprouting tentacles thing and Wilt doing the Darth Vader saber fight with Bloo was great, as was Wilt actually being good at acting evil.

Now the bad: Bloo shutting Mac outside of the door.....I'm sorry but that's just NOT cool. It upset me...seriously. Even if these aliens were not evil as far as torture goes, the fact Bloo shut him out in a time when they seemed to fear for their lives....that's just not cool.

Wilt being able to get so into his character and automatically dump his friends for the aliens wasn't "Wilt"ish. His behavior in "Where there's a wilt" was more plausible then this. I also didn't get this whole imaginary attack thing until later and even now, it still seems weird.

But my biggest beef is the fact that while ALL of this was going on....Madame Foster, Mr. Herriman, and Frankie are NO WHERE to be found. "Infernal slumber" made sense because they were at Mac's house, they had a plausible reason for not showing them.

But for evil IF aliens to break into the house, chase Mac and Bloo who scream the whole episode practically, and kick Goo out all through the house and not have ANY of those 3 chars who basically NEVER leave the house around, hard to swallow.

I understand Frankie, Madame Foster and Herriman wouldn;'t have worked in the episode but seriously, you can't expect people not to wonder where they are when all of this crazy crap is going on. None of them would leave the house completely unsupervised.

The only time they did that was with Bloo in "Squeeze the day" and that was because they figured with him alone nothing would happen...and they were right more or less. So all in all, last week's episode was much more entertaining then this.

Like before, this was clever writing but I found "Emancipation" more enjoyable to watch and watch AGAIN then this one. Outside of Goo's amazing character development, this episode didn't really make me laugh that much. It just weirded me out and made Wilt and Bloo do things that just irked me.

kageri
11-17-2006, 09:57 PM
Now the bad: Bloo shutting Mac outside of the door.....I'm sorry but that's just NOT cool. It upset me...seriously. Even if these aliens were not evil as far as torture goes, the fact Bloo shut him out in a time when they seemed to fear for their lives....that's just not cool.

I found the fact that Bloo wouldn't do for his best friend what most decent people would try to do for someone they didn't even know to be honestly disturbing. And it's not like keeping the door open for another split second would have made much of a difference.

LaBlooGirl
11-17-2006, 09:58 PM
Now the bad: Bloo shutting Mac outside of the door.....I'm sorry but that's just NOT cool. It upset me...seriously. Even if these aliens were not evil as far as torture goes, the fact Bloo shut him out in a time when they seemed to fear for their lives....that's just not cool.

Yeah, I don't get that, really I don't. (Craig, Lauren, are you trying to say that Bloo really doesn't care about Mac getting hurt or not? Like the time he had Mac go up in the tree and practically break his neck trying to get something for him? Uhm....hmm..wish I could do an interview here to find out your reasoning behind things like this. There's so much conflict sometimes ((even in one episode)) with Mac/Bloo being friends and Mac/Bloo being something that's not quite friends that it sometimes disturbs me. Then again, I AM a major over-analyzer. lol)

That's one thing about the show that always irks me. I understand some of this is intended to be humorous but thing is, we KNOW Craig is a thinker like us, and that he likes to put some real heart into his show along with the humor and craziness that goes on with the characters. So I don't understand this message at all, even IF Bloo is totally chaotic, his world is SUPPOSED to be CENTERING around Mac, not trying to INSULT HIM, SHUT HIM OUT, or ACT LIKE HE DOESN'T CARE.
To me, that totally defies the wonderful original purpose of this show....

to stress friendship and the values of helping others.

But well, besides that one thing (which is starting to bug me more the longer I think about it, for some reason), this episode WAS good. I gave it a B, by the way.

Mr. Marshmallow
11-17-2006, 10:05 PM
And it's not like keeping the door open for another split second would have made much of a difference.

Not the point. The point was the gesture of the action, this can sound like over analyzing if you want but it's actually quite simple: shutting a door on someone's face only has ONE answer. Bloo shut the door on Mac and let him get chased around.

Even if there was no chance of actually helping Mac, the fact of the matter is the gesture wasn't given back and above all else, to his best friend. If you ever saw the "Mummy" movie with Brendan Fraiser, very similar thing happened towards the end of the movie.

This guy Benny was a back stabbing, theiving, wormy little snitch who was once Fraiser's best friend in the movie but back stabbed him like 50 times. In the end, the pyramid is closing and Benny is trying to escape as the walls start to close down.

Despite all the back stabbing, despite the fact he was BETRAYED, shot at, insulted, ditched, and left for dead at every waking turn by this guy Benny, Fraiser still extends his hand out to help the guy out of the tomb. It closes, and he fails.

But....the gesture was still made, the attempt was still given. Bloo didn't and that's what bothers me. That, and the fact that like I said before about "Emancipation", this was an interesting idea....I just didn't think it was a very funny idea.

The imagination thing in the beginning with the word fighting was good, but after a while, it dragged on really long and they kept talking so fast it was hard just to keep up and get the whole idea of the "joke".

One Radical Dude
11-17-2006, 10:08 PM
I don't think it's out of the ordinary for Bloo to close to door on Mac early on. This is Bloo we're talking about, and more often than not, he thinks about himself -- a lot. Does that make it right? No, I'm not saying that, nor am I defending what happened here. At the same time, though, you do have the option of asking whether Bloo cares or not if Mac gets hurt.

kageri
11-17-2006, 10:12 PM
Not the point. The point was the gesture of the action, this can sound like over analyzing if you want but it's actually quite simple: shutting a door on someone's face only has ONE answer. Bloo shut the door on Mac and let him get chased around.

Even if there was no chance of actually helping Mac, the fact of the matter is the gesture wasn't given back and above all else, to his best friend. If you ever saw the "Mummy" movie with Brendan Fraiser, very similar thing happened towards the end of the movie.


What I meant by that was, it's hard to even see what he was trying to accomplish by being all "SAVE YOURSELF!" because they would both have escaped if he had kept the door open.

Mr. Marshmallow
11-17-2006, 10:13 PM
This is Bloo we're talking about, and more often than not, he thinks about himself -- a lot. Does that make it right? No, I'm not saying that, nor am I defending what happened here. At the same time, though, you do have the option of asking whether Bloo cares or not if Mac gets hurt.

If this is the Bloo we are going to see more of as the series progresses......then I am seriously gonna dislike him soon. Selfish and thinking bout only you is one thing, I always felt Bloo was just an ass but still had a heart deep inside of him.

"House of Bloo's" showed us that, this didn't. I really hope Bloo becomes more like "Boss" Bloo then "Make Believe it or not", because it's not an image I can stand if this keeps up.

One Radical Dude
11-17-2006, 10:28 PM
I think he's actually shown more of his soft side this season than the last. I may be the only one to see that, but to me, he was 'worse' in Seasons Two and Three (definitely three). As I've said before, one episode isn't going to determine what Bloo will be like. He's not going to stop being a jerk, but we will see more of the affectionate side of him in the future, methinks. :) Maybe, I'm biased over the issue, but that's the way I see it.

Mr. Marshmallow
11-17-2006, 10:31 PM
I don't doubt he has a soft side, though I honestly have to say that this season has been the most confusing revelations of Bloo then any other. "Boss" shows a really good side of Bloo, "Emanicpation" showed more of typical Bloo, the Bloo we'd expect to see.

This one was just plain wrong to me and it's a taste that I find difficult to stand, let alone watch again. Was the episode unbearable to watch? No, was that scene with Bloo and the door? I sure as hell think so. Also "I only have surprise for you" was another current season episoded that showed Bloo being worse then usual.

kageri
11-17-2006, 10:36 PM
I think he's actually shown more of his soft side this season than the last. I may be the only one to see that, but to me, he was 'worse' in Seasons Two and Three (definitely three). As I've said before, one episode isn't going to determine what Bloo will be like. He's not going to stop being a jerk, but we will see more of the affectionate side of him in the future, methinks. :) Maybe, I'm biased over the issue, but that's the way I see it.

I sure hope so, because I've said that Mac and Bloo complete each other, like two halves of a whole -- but now, it's like they're so opposite that they have nothing in common, and they're drifting apart. Fighting can be funny, and something that all relationships have, but I'm ready for some easing up on the oil-and-water Mac and Bloo and some more yin-and-yang, peas-in-a-pod, peanut-butter-and-jelly Mac and Bloo. I'm wishing intently for something akin to the end-ish of Hiccy Burp.

CCMars
11-17-2006, 10:57 PM
I think part of the reason for Bloo's actions was his state of panic at the time. This does not excuse them by any means, but Bloo basically did what any living creature would do by nature when in a life-threatening situation with little time (such as being chased by someone who wants to kill you). Let's face it: when Panic Mode sets in you don't think of others and their safety. The most you think about is not losing the 'survival of the fittest' game.

Wilt's situation was very different, but what goes on in his mind is next to impossible to understand anyway. Or he could have just gotten too into the part. Actors do tend to do that sometimes. ;D

That said, I really liked this episode, maybe even loved it. Wilt as a bad guy was a treat to watch and so was his duel with Bloo. Goo was plain adorable; as someone said, this was a very good character study for her. Goo admitted to being lonely in "Go Goo Go" and MBION backs up this claim quite a bit, at least in my opinion. On a side note, I can't believe no one has mentioned the Speed Racer and mecha (giant robots) references.

swarlock
11-17-2006, 10:58 PM
I found the fact that Bloo wouldn't do for his best friend what most decent people would try to do for someone they didn't even know to be honestly disturbing. And it's not like keeping the door open for another split second would have made much of a difference.

Friendship is a strange thing. I knew people who would give their lives for others and the minute something bad happens. It becomes a Fend For Yourself attitude that creeps in.

It's happened to me sometimes.

Voxxyn
11-17-2006, 11:45 PM
Let's face it: when Panic Mode sets in you don't think of others and their safety. The most you think about is not losing the 'survival of the fittest' game.

Maybe it's because I hate the "devil may care" attitude that seems to have defined modern culture, but I don't get that at all. If I were in a situation that threatens both me and the people I love most, I would do LITERALLY EVERYTHING IN MY POWER to make sure that they're safe and well. I'm far from being a real-life incarnation of Wilt, but at the same time, I like to think I'm better than neglecting the welfare of others just to 'win' one of life's many stupid and cruel social mindgames.

I still haven't seen the episode, so I probably shouldn't be talking about it for now. But I'm already convinced that Bloo leaving his best friend in the entire world behind is an all-time low for him. :(

Mr. Marshmallow
11-17-2006, 11:59 PM
Maybe it's because I hate the "devil may care" attitude that seems to have defined modern culture, but I don't get that at all. If I were in a situation that threatens both me and the people I love most, I would do LITERALLY EVERYTHING IN MY POWER to make sure that they're safe and well. I'm far from being a real-life incarnation of Wilt, but at the same time, I like to think I'm better than neglecting the welfare of others just to 'win' one of life's many stupid and cruel social mindgames.

I still haven't seen the episode, so I probably shouldn't be talking about it for now. But I'm already convinced that Bloo leaving his best friend in the entire world behind is an all-time low for him. :(

I couldn't have said it better myself.

CCMars
11-18-2006, 12:02 AM
Maybe it's because I hate the "devil may care" attitude that seems to have defined modern culture, but I don't get that at all. If I were in a situation that threatens both me and the people I love most, I would do LITERALLY EVERYTHING IN MY POWER to make sure that they're safe and well. I'm far from being a real-life incarnation of Wilt, but at the same time, I like to think I'm better than neglecting the welfare of others just to 'win' one of life's many stupid and cruel social mindgames.

I almost read that as 'devil may cry.' XD Anyway, it's true some people are that way, but I think you're getting a little too worked up over the idea.

I'd like to think that way too, but it also depends on how well you react to a situation and the time you have. Like when a forest fire got started near my home while my family was away this past summer. I couldn't think of anything but getting my animals to safety and the growing fear of my house being burned down. Luckily for me the fire was too far away to even evacuate, but at least I still had time to breathe and think about what I was going to do. Had the situation happened all of a sudden and I had to do things at the top of my head...the very thought frightens me. We never know what we would do in an emergency situation until it actually happens to us.

Mr. Marshmallow
11-18-2006, 12:11 AM
The point is that people react differently because of who they are. Look at 9/11, people turned around and did their best to help out others in need. Some people are that way, and that is exactly where the problem is, being THAT way.

What Bloo did was completely careless and ignorant to Mac. They ran like their lives depended on it and even though we all know their lives didn't, Bloo still shut the door on him. You honestly think Mac would have done the same thing if sides were switched?

The panic thing can be taken into account, however it is REALLY hard to even take it into consideration when you consider the person's track record. Nearly every single thing Bloo has done has shown that this was more of him acting like HIM then a panic attack.

Just like he forgot about his friends for a video game in "Emancipation", just like he psychologically tortured Mac in "I Only have surprise" and put him on the spot in "Infernal Slumber" and yet again in "Bus the two of us". They all match up to the selfish attitude Bloo has about himself.

Now does this mean I hate Bloo? No. Does this mean he's the spawn of satan and has no good in him whatsoever? No. But, does a panic attack really make sense when his actions connect so easily to every other prank, insensitive, and selfish thing he's done in the past? I don't buy that.

What Bloo did here is not so amazingly different to what he has done in the past, which is exactly why I don't buy this panic attack theory. Sorry, but this is too familar and too similar to Bloo's past antics to seem panicky to me.

CCMars
11-18-2006, 12:38 AM
The point is that people react differently because of who they are. Look at 9/11, people turned around and did their best to help out others in need. Some people are that way, and that is exactly where the problem is, being THAT way.

What Bloo did was completely careless and ignorant to Mac. They ran like their lives depended on it and even though we all know their lives didn't, Bloo still shut the door on him. You honestly think Mac would have done the same thing if sides were switched?

The panic thing can be taken into account, however it is REALLY hard to even take it into consideration when you consider the person's track record. Nearly every single thing Bloo has done has shown that this was more of him acting like HIM then a panic attack.

Just like he forgot about his friends for a video game in "Emancipation", just like he psychologically tortured Mac in "I Only have surprise" and put him on the spot in "Infernal Slumber" and yet again in "Bus the two of us". They all match up to the selfish attitude Bloo has about himself.

Now does this mean I hate Bloo? No. Does this mean he's the spawn of satan and has no good in him whatsoever? No. But, does a panic attack really make sense when his actions connect so easily to every other prank, insensitive, and selfish thing he's done in the past? I don't buy that.

What Bloo did here is not so amazingly different to what he has done in the past, which is exactly why I don't buy this panic attack theory. Sorry, but this is too familar and too similar to Bloo's past antics to seem panicky to me.

Read my post again. People helped AFTER the attacks happened, but I am talking about AT THE MOMENT. I wasn't excusing Bloo for his actions, but I do think he reacted the same way most of us would if our very lives were suddenly hanging in the balance, no matter the personality. I mean for god's sake, he was suddenly attacked for no apparent reason!

What happened in the rest of the episodes you mentioned, yes there was no excuse for those. That much I will give you.

And where did I say that you thought he was the spawn of satan or whatever? Where did anybody say that? You came up with that, not me or any of us.

LaBlooGirl
11-18-2006, 06:29 AM
Well let's put it this way. That's one major point against Bloo that will stick. I never want to see something like that again and I really hope the writers will cut that crap out, because sometimes I think they like to do that just to stir up oubursts from the fans. But I didn't fall in love with this show for Bloo being a jerk and COMPLETELY selfish 100% of the time, I fell in love with it for the cute and true friendship I THOUGHT Mac and Bloo had, that was the sole reason.
Well ok, that and the ever-so-charming Wilt.

I mean if it weren't for some of the other great scenes (Wilt in my opinion being the saving grace) in this episode I would have given it an F rather than a B.

"C" the Dragon
11-18-2006, 07:09 AM
Well, I gave it a "B", because of Wilt "pretending" to be the bad guy. I know he's just pretending, but later on, it's getting too serious, and he's becoming more like the bad guy, because of the pretend. Okay, okay, and the way he said at the end, it's okay, but still disturbing. At least he's still kind, from noticing Goo all lonly at the beginning, and tried to make her be part of the act more. That is very sweet of him.:D

For some strange reason, I didn't even think about the part when Bloo ditched Mac. I just thought this is just the way plot is supposed to go. After all, Bloo is Bloo.

Now that Goo came back, it's becoming almost like her own episode!:goo:

And you got to admit, the "Goo riding On Coco" part was pretty cute.

So, that's why I gave it a "B". I was going to give it a "C" because of Wilt's part as a "pretend" evil villan, but there are other sweet parts, so I gave it a "B", instead.

Invader Bloo
11-18-2006, 09:05 AM
A-. Bloo as Arnold Swartzenager(sp?) was great. I haven't read all the posts but has anyone noticed Wilt on a Foster's website? It may just be the adoptionsite but still, that was the best parody of us fans ever! Yeah CN is really letting us down on the plots first no Frankie-Mac team-up, now no video game parody?:(
Oh yeah surprised no one else caught the "I have you now!" Wilt line, another Vader parody. Oh yeah Wilt as a transformer was cool, even though I'm not a transormer fan.:D

antgirl1
11-18-2006, 09:08 AM
I really don't know why everyone is fussing over A THREE SECOND MOMENT that is supposibly a bad part. I personally thought it was funny when Bloo actually did that.

Invader Bloo
11-18-2006, 09:13 AM
I like Bloo's abandonment of Mac. It fits his character, more than saying "save Mac!"

montitech
11-18-2006, 11:28 AM
I gave it an A

I like the way ED saved the day, with the bestest thing in the WORLD......
i did not see that comming.

And then he got a promotion as well :bloogrin


Monty:-/

BabyElephant
11-18-2006, 02:14 PM
To be fair, it's easy to sit in the safety of your living room/bedroom/wherever and say "Well, Bloo should have done such-and-such". But the truth is there's no way of knowing how you'd react in a life and death situation (or one that at least seems like life and death). Sure, I like to think that I'd react heroically and selflessly, but I can't know for sure, because luckily I've never been put in that position. Therefore, I can't judge Bloo.

On a side note, I don't think I'll ever be able to call shotgun when getting in a car again without adding "Huzzah!"

One Radical Dude
11-18-2006, 02:41 PM
I'm sorry guys, but I really need to vent -- I just have to let it out. Personally, I am annoyed with some of the things said here. I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but some of the things I've read remind me of TV.com. I'm so sick and tired of folks whining about how Bloo is doing this and that wrong. :terrence: He could have been a lot 'worse' this season than he was (I still say he was worse in the previous two seasons). He isn't going to be a jerk all the time, however, he isn't going to be a total angel, either. That's part of Blooregard Q. Kazoo.

Also, a few made a good point. I might have done the same thing, if I were in Bloo's position. Either way, Bloo wasn't able to escape, so there. 8D :P

There, my rant is over. I think I need to avoid this discussion now.

Imaginary Light
11-18-2006, 02:52 PM
People really seem to have mixed feelings about this episode.

I, personally, liked it. I thought it was nice to see Goo being used in a...um, not-annoying way (way too tired to think of a good word right now). And I thought Bloo saying "owned" was one of the funniest things I heard all night.

Oh, and the glamour shot thingies were pretty awesome. Ed's was really cute.

One Radical Dude
11-18-2006, 02:56 PM
Well, the reviews seem to be more positive this week, except for that one part that seems to be getting the most criticism. :P I can't wait to see the screenshots for this episode. 8D I also have to agree that Goo was used well in this one. Great job, crew. I can't wait for GWH and Season Five.

Sparky
11-18-2006, 03:01 PM
Yay finally saw it, and I'll try to do the screencaps asap now that I know how to.
I hate to say it, but I actually liked this episode in spite of Goo. :terrsmile: (As I've said countless times, I'm not trying to slight people who like Goo, I just personally don't find her that good a character. We all have different opinions.) I think I liked the ep despite Goo because while she did help defeat the bad guys and all, it was believeable this time - and before that happened, she actually suffered consequences for her wonton creation. Though I thought it was highly unfair that Goo got mad at Mac and Bloo for "only" being tickled - they were apparently tag-tickled nonstop for several minutes, and when you're not enjoying it that can be highly unpleasant. I just have to assume that's never happened to Goo. ;)

There were tons of good references in this ep, that really made it good. And ORD, I think you're overreacting. This crowd will NEVER be like the "whiners" on TV.com - just let them vent and discuss, and we'll all be the better for it, because if anyone does get out of line, the rest will cut them down like weeds. :blooevil:

One Radical Dude
11-18-2006, 03:07 PM
Perhaps, I did go overboard. That doesn't mean I can't vent every once in a while. I'm not looking for fights. 8D But yeah, let's hope we don't take the route de TV.com :P

Mr. Marshmallow
11-18-2006, 04:04 PM
And where did I say that you thought he was the spawn of satan or whatever? Where did anybody say that? You came up with that, not me or any of us.

I never said you said it, I was using it as an over exaggeration.

Now as far as this so called "3 second" moment not being as bad as it seems, I'm sorry but that's enough time to do damage. You can hurt someone in 1 second. If it's bugging the crap out of my brain for something we see so quickly, then its something pretty bad.

Maybe I am over analzying this but the same thing has been done to last week's episode, and no doubt the other episodes posted on discussion threads on this board. Dissecting an episode on a 3 sec or 50 sec scene is typical discussion stuff.

Certain things stick with you, what Bloo did was one of those things that stuck. Quite a few people on here noticed the same issue so I know i'm not completely crazy upstairs. And despite that issue, I said before there were other things I severely disliked.

Including the overly long "Imagination" word fight between Goo and Mac in the beginning of the episode, the fact Wilt was more worried about pleasing the aliens more so then his friends, and the fact that Herriman, Madame Foster, and Frankie were gone for some reason.

The fact that 95% of this episode took place in the house and had so much going on is very confusing on how none of those 3 characters were seen or even mentioned of where they were. All of them almost never leave the house, so that still bothers me alot.

This episode wasn't bad, it was cleverly written much like "Emancipation". But I didn't find it that funny, and like I said before, some episodes are less entertaining to watch repeatively then others. I watched "Emancipation" quite a few times, still enjoyed it.

This one, can't really get that kinda feeling from it.

kageri
11-18-2006, 07:04 PM
Who wrote this episode, anyway? It feels like someone other than the usual suspects did.

LaBlooGirl
11-18-2006, 07:11 PM
Perhaps, I did go overboard. That doesn't mean I can't vent every once in a while. I'm not looking for fights. 8D But yeah, let's hope we don't take the route de TV.com :P

Hey ORD, you're entitled to your opinions. I happen to be one of the people who like to discuss on deeper levels (obviously), and if you don't like that sort of thing, that's fine. That is, however, why you don't get involved with that sort of discussion, right? ;)

Who wrote this episode, anyway? It feels like someone other than the usual suspects did.

Yeah in some ways it did....especially with the hotly debated scenes. Some of it was classic Foster's humor though, so it may have been a team effort (as most usually are) using writers with different ideas.

Mr. Marshmallow
11-18-2006, 07:20 PM
Who wrote this episode, anyway? It feels like someone other than the usual suspects did.

You know I never even thought of that. That could possibly explain alot, because no Foster's episode ever felt THIS weird before.

You may be onto something.

CG
11-18-2006, 07:46 PM
I too find it hard to believe there's so much anger just over a door being shut on Mac.

But hey, remember? It's a cartoon! =O

...

I'm so gonna get stoned for this.

One Radical Dude
11-18-2006, 07:48 PM
It definitely wasn't written by Lauren Faust or Darrick Bachman, I can tell you that much. I don't remember the name, but I think it was the person's first episode.

Sparky
11-18-2006, 10:42 PM
I'm surprised nobody's brought up the "Ed Baker" gag - at one point Eduardo calles himself Ed Baker. Ed Baker is one of the FHFIF storyboarders! (Of course I have a thing for storyboarders so maybe not many people noticed that.)

edit: sorry, messed up on the writer. It was Kirk Thatcher.

One more edit: I looked him up on IMDB and it appears he's done a lot of writing for the Muppets, if its the same guy. ;)

One Radical Dude
11-18-2006, 10:51 PM
Yeah, I forgot to mention the Ed Baker gag, but I did recognize it at the time.

I could ask, if that's the case. Chances are, it probably IS the same Kirk Thatcher that worked with the Muppets. :D

bloonuggets
11-19-2006, 01:36 AM
"I'm surprised nobody's brought up the 'Ed The Baker' gag - at one point Eduardo calles himself Ed the Baker. Ed Baker is one of the FHFIF storyboarders! (Of course I have a thing for storyboarders so maybe not many people noticed that.)"

And an Emmy winner, too for "World Wide Wabbit"!

TheLH
11-19-2006, 07:08 AM
I'm suprised that a lot of people overlooked a few things while this whole "Bloo dosen't care about Mac in danger!/He was in panic!" [female dog]ing (Sorry! :() discussion was going on:

1. We get to see inside Goo's house for the first time! :goo: Sure, her parents are still neither seen nor heard, we still see their kitchen, bathroom, and Goo's bedroom, which is a nice touch! I also notice she keeps her braids on when going to bed.

2. More insight into the laws of physics in the Fostersverse! :bloogrin Go on, I know you'll tell me "It's a cartoon, of course the laws of physics can be defyed." but come on, at least it tells us somehow that things can effect IF's if imagined hard enough (Coco's sleeping bomb, the time stop thing)!

And, answering the question on why there's loads of new writers pouring in? Simple, because most of the main writers were busy on GWH, and production of it was probably weaved into all the other episodes this season.

YuckieDuck
11-19-2006, 11:52 AM
And, answering the question on why there's loads of new writers pouring in? Simple, because most of the main writers were busy on GWH, and production of it was probably weaved into all the other episodes this season.

It really seems so since the last two episodes (written by Darrick Bachman) had story credit to the following people:

Craig McCracken, Lauren Faust, Darrick Bachman, Shannon Tindle, Shane Prigmore, Andy Schuhler

Tindle and Prigmore were previously character designers and Schuhler was a storyboard artist. I wonder why Tim McKeon's name hasn't appeared on the story credit anymore. Maybe he was busy making the "Re-Animated" movie, I heard that he was writing it.

And I hope someone will upload this episode soon... I can't wait to see it! :(

Mr. Marshmallow
11-19-2006, 12:02 PM
1. We get to see inside Goo's house for the first time! :goo: Sure, her parents are still neither seen nor heard, we still see their kitchen, bathroom, and Goo's bedroom, which is a nice touch! I also notice she keeps her braids on when going to bed.

2. More insight into the laws of physics in the Fostersverse! :bloogrin Go on, I know you'll tell me "It's a cartoon, of course the laws of physics can be defyed." but come on, at least it tells us somehow that things can effect IF's if imagined hard enough (Coco's sleeping bomb, the time stop thing)!

Seeing Goo's house wasn't a big deal for me. Sure it was nice to get a general idea, but it's not something I lost sleep thinking about. It would have been more interesting if we saw it for more then a matter of seconds, particuarly her kitchen.

Or better yet, the outside of the house itself. Now far as the Fosters verse "physics" I don't think this will EVER show up again. The imaginary alien friends were created under the rules, weapons, and guidelines of Goo's fanasty play with Mac and Bloo.

They had all the traits, personalities, and abilities of Goo's fantasy and she created them on those traits. So it's only natural they would be affected by Mac's fantasy traits since they were created JUST for those imaginary alien friends. I doubt this would work on anyone else like say Eduardo or Herriman.

Funny thing is, Goo seems to be even MORE dangerous when she's sleeping about an idea. These imaginary friends were stronger, smarter, meaner, and more independant then any of her previous creations. They kicked her out and acted like they were the real thing.

We have never seen imaginary friends act, think, or react this way before. It's scary to think what could happen if Goo has a repeat of this incident.

TheLH
11-19-2006, 02:50 PM
And I hope someone will upload this episode soon... I can't wait to see it! :(

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montitech
11-19-2006, 07:45 PM
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Get Bittorrent, then sign up. You'll have to wait about a couple of days, then download the episode using Bittorrent. Please remember to leave the download on as long as possible, that way it'll be easier to get the episodes next time.

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Mods - Shouldnt this be under Episodes on computer?

Monty :-/

Sparky
11-19-2006, 08:11 PM
Well sure, general discussion of up/downloading files could be over there, but eh. Its not like its completeky offtopic.

I have just finished uploading Make Believe in 3 parts to my filelodge account, and the links can be found in the Eps on Comp thread.

Sparky
11-19-2006, 11:45 PM
Screengrabs are uploading right now. Oh yeah and I'm going to upload an ad that aired during the MBION airing I recorded..

Anyways the airing I saw lacked the end credit sequence. Can anyone tell me what happened in it?

One Radical Dude
11-20-2006, 12:05 AM
I didn't see it, either. I'm guessing the first airing didn't show it either, or it got interrupted like EC's premiere. The second airing showed split-screen credits (which I absolutely hate). :P

Cassini90125
11-20-2006, 06:02 AM
The first showing featured Tommy and Tara talking, and me hitting the mute button. :P

Nathander
11-20-2006, 06:38 AM
Screengrabs are uploading right now. Oh yeah and I'm going to upload an ad that aired during the MBION airing I recorded..

Anyways the airing I saw lacked the end credit sequence. Can anyone tell me what happened in it?

While I didn't get to see a showing where they showed the ending sequence by itself, from what I could tell it was just the pictures of everyone's imaginary forms again in a slideshow format. Whether there was any dialogue or not, I'm unable to tell.

Voxxyn
11-20-2006, 02:42 PM
ORD, if I seemed like one of those "Bloo is evil x100" folks from TV.com with my "all-time low" remark, my apologies. I love Bloo, and think he's a very hilarious and unique character, along with nearly everybody else here. But I still it was very wrong of him.

Whether it's three seconds of Bloo turning his back on his best friend, or twenty minutes of Frankie being completely abused and cruelly denied thanks to a mooching jerk named Goofball, some things are just unforgivable and inexcusable, no matter how you put it.

pitbulllady
11-20-2006, 03:16 PM
ORD, if I seemed like one of those "Bloo is evil x100" folks from TV.com with my "all-time low" remark, my apologies. I love Bloo, and think he's a very hilarious and unique character, along with nearly everybody else here. But I still it was very wrong of him.

Whether it's three seconds of Bloo turning his back on his best friend, or twenty minutes of Frankie being completely abused and cruelly denied thanks to a mooching jerk named Goofball, some things are just unforgivable and inexcusable, no matter how you put it.


Is there anyone on this forum who has never done something unforgiveable, inexcusable, or just plain STUPID? Anyone? Speak up! I'm not one of them, since I've certainly done plenty of such things, and likely will do some more before I die, because I'm HUMAN. Foster's is a character-driven show, and if we are going to really be able to suspend our disbelief for a half-hour or less each week and find these bits of pixels to be real characters, real PEOPLE, then face it-from time to time, some of them are going to either DO things that are unforgiveable, inexcusable, or just plain stupid, OR they're going to have such things done to THEM. It's life, or in this case, an animated facsimile thereof. As Lauren once explained, you cannot have a character-driven series, in which people really relate to the characters, if everyone is always happy and holding hands and everything is perfect. It won't work. There's going to be conflicts, there's going to be hurt and heartache, and there's going to be things that tick off fans. I didn't like it when certain characters said or did things to other characters, but I am not angry with the show's creative team and I did not hate the episodes in which those things happened. I forgive the one character in particular who's done some things I didn't like, and that character actually remains one of my favorites.

pitbulllady

CG
11-20-2006, 03:20 PM
Well said pbl. Well said. Some are taking this way too seriously, for a split second event.

Well anyway; I finally saw the episode last night. It downloaded with a few hiccups along the way but I personally loved the episode. I'm not gonna over analyse anything tho. I sometimes do, but I don't feel I have to now. You guys have gone well beyond the duty of picking things to a skeleton.

Goo was well handled, for once. She's not a character I can normally associate with, but she was really well done here.

The glamour shots were amazing, they really were. Wilt's reminded me of Transformers, something I haven't thought back on for years. Mac’s of course made me think if Speed Racer, a show I never really watched or got into but I at least caught the reference. Bloo’s made me think if Conan the Barbarian. Goo’s was cute, all girly and sparkly like that. I didn’t catch any reference, if there was one. And Eduardo’s gave me cavities I swear. Very Power Puff Girl orientated to say the least.

I enjoyed it very much. The use of imagination against imaginaries was I think, a stroke of genius.

Mr. Marshmallow
11-20-2006, 03:21 PM
I think the point of the terms "unforgiven" and "unexcusable" aren't being acknowledged here.

I totally agree with you Vox. Human or no human, there are somethings you CAN'T let go.

CG
11-20-2006, 03:39 PM
Welp. Can't lead a horse to water and make him drink if he don't want to. You guys think what Bloo did was so unforgivable that he deserves this kind of talk then that's your choice.

I just also wanted to add I loved the reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the movie. How Bloo and Mac were tied up to the speakers were very reminiscent of the scene in the movie. Nice nod I think.

SkittleMonkey
11-20-2006, 03:44 PM
I just also wanted to add I loved the reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the movie. How Bloo and Mac were tied up to the speakers were very reminiscent of the scene in the movie. Nice nod I think.

Good, I thought I was the only one that caught that! I love how they put those references in there. It makes the entire show even MORE fun to watch! 8-)

donna323
11-20-2006, 04:42 PM
My 9 year old daughter and I watched this episode and were absolutely enchanted! The glamour shots were awesome and a stroke of genious. Our favorite was Coco as a Tyranataur ... exploding eggs? Inspired! I mean, that can't be beat! And I also thought the peak into Goo's house and her braids down and everything was very intense.

All in all, I'd say this was an A+ episode (all debates on the Bloo-man's behaviour aside) because it is definitely allegorical.

Think about it ...

If you can imagine it, or envision it, it can happen.

Implies that we can have so much more control over our lives than we ever thought.

And whoever wrote that episode actually gets it.

Kudos!

kageri
11-20-2006, 05:30 PM
I just also wanted to add I loved the reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the movie. How Bloo and Mac were tied up to the speakers were very reminiscent of the scene in the movie. Nice nod I think.

They seem to be doing that a whole lot recently. It's great.

pitbulllady
11-20-2006, 05:59 PM
Welp. Can't lead a horse to water and make him drink if he don't want to. You guys think what Bloo did was so unforgivable that he deserves this kind of talk then that's your choice.

I just also wanted to add I loved the reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the movie. How Bloo and Mac were tied up to the speakers were very reminiscent of the scene in the movie. Nice nod I think.

I was wondering if anyone else saw that and thought, "Ah-HAH! Vogon poetry!"

pitbulllady

montitech
11-20-2006, 06:09 PM
I was wondering if anyone else saw that and thought, "Ah-HAH! Vogon poetry!"

pitbulllady

Vogon Poetry is only Bad if you have a Babble Fish.

otherwise you cannot understand it anyway.

Monty :-/

Cassini90125
11-20-2006, 06:11 PM
It may not matter. My rotten upstairs neighbors play music in a language I don't understand, and let me tell you, it's bad. :P

We're getting desperately off-topic, here. Back to the episode, anyone?

montitech
11-20-2006, 06:27 PM
I know some people did not like the way Bloo ran into the room and shut the door and did not let Mac in.

I thought that part was great. IT was classic comedy. something one would see done by Buster Keeting, three stooges or Marx Brothers to name a few.

Yes it was a shame that Mac got caught, but Classic comedy is sometimes cruel. But that does not stop it from being funny. (For example Charlie Chapplans Tramp character was always being put down Cruel and Funny)

Then to finish the sceen:
Bloo looked both ways
came out
Looked up
GOt Caught.

That was Great comedy.

Just my 2cents & helping to get the thread back on track.
oh, and good point about the Bad Music Cassini90125
Monty :-/

Nyo
11-20-2006, 06:30 PM
Mac makes the greatest Speed Racer EVER.

Haha, B from me.

Nathander
11-20-2006, 07:05 PM
I know some people did not like the way Bloo ran into the room and shut the door and did not let Mac in.

I thought that part was great. IT was classic comedy. something one would see done by Buster Keeting, three stooges or Marx Brothers to name a few.

Yes it was a shame that Mac got caught, but Classic comedy is sometimes cruel. But that does not stop it from being funny. (For example Charlie Chapplans Tramp character was always being put down Cruel and Funny)


Very good point, and I can easily agree with it. The only thing is, Mac and Bloo's relationship as best friends has kind of been slipping since the second season, and there are very few episodes that focus on them just hanging out and being friends (such as this seasons' "Squeeze the Day"). It's not this scene in particular that disturbs me so much as how opposite the two are becoming on a whole. While the two have always basically been opposites, their friendship was also always obvious. Recently, it's become more like their differences are making them hostile towards one another (though, in all fairness, Bloo is usually the agitator). Now, the scene in this episode didn't disturb me nearly as much as it did to some of the others here, as it was counterbalanced, in my mind at least, by the scenes of Bloo and Mac just being buddies here, such as Bloo's comments and odd little form of support to Mac during Goo and Mac's "one-up" contest.

But I do agree; a lot of us are probably overanalyzing the situation between Mac and Bloo, and that the scene here was just a nod to the older forms of comedy. Still, it's hard not to overanalyze it sometimes, considering how rarely we really see Mac and Bloo get to just hang out. :P

Still, one of my favorite episodes this season, though it's beaten by "Squeeze the Day" and "Bloo's the Boss".

Speaking of the "one-up" contest, it was refreshing to see Mac engage in some fairly childish behavior. He needs a chance to act his age more often. In a way, I think that's one of the reasons I liked this episode as much as I did: despite the apparent "threat", it was, on a whole, a fairly light-hearted episode that really appealed to the child in me. Again, it was nice that there was an episode where Mac got to act as a child, as they're far too rare.

kageri
11-20-2006, 07:22 PM
It's not this scene in particular that disturbs me so much as how opposite the two are becoming on a whole.

Same here.

Speaking of the "one-up" contest, it was refreshing to see Mac engage in some fairly childish behavior. He needs a chance to act his age more often.

Hearing Mac, who usually has to be so sane and reasonable while surrounded by crazies, say "like a million miles an hour!" made my day.

Nathander
11-20-2006, 07:38 PM
Hearing Mac, who usually has to be so sane and reasonable while surrounded by crazies, say "like a million miles an hour!" made my day.

That, and I just loved that he used "child logic" to, proclaiming how you could obviously "freeze" time but not "melt" time.

Mr. Marshmallow
11-20-2006, 10:18 PM
Not only that, but it was nice to see that Goo wasn't the only person with an over active imagination. It takes alot of creativity to keep up with a "fight" like that and make up some many random ass objects and things that do this and do that.

Mac proved he's just as good as Goo and it was nice to see Goo get HUMLBED for a change. What's even better was I thought it was a smart move to make Goo be apologetic about the whole issue and not gloat over the aliens capturing Mac and Bloo.

Had she let her ego get in the way, she probably would have gloated over her creations but as we saw, she showed true modesty by accepting responsibility for her mistakes and trying to fix things. Usually Goo doesn't get "knocked down a peg", so it was nice to see her bossyness take a break.

Btw, I agree on 2 other things mentioned previously:

1. Tickling CAN be torture. Anyone who laughs non stop after a while knows your jaw, your voice, and your chest will hurt like HELL.

2. The door thing like I said is disturbing, but it does play in part to the bigger picture and that's Bloo's status with Mac. This was just another notch in Bloo's friend bashing belt with Mac and that's what really bothers me. This season Bloo has shown LOTS more negativity to Mac then positivity.

LaBlooGirl
11-21-2006, 05:09 AM
Though I myself can't see it at all, since there's been little or no proof of any such thing, it seems Bloo sees Mac as trying to be "higher" then him. He does say, "I'm not his SIDEKICK!"
Huh, wonder why that bothers him so much. :confused:

bigdog
11-21-2006, 05:17 AM
Uh, because Bloo wants all the attention in the whole world. He's an attention hog. Why? Because he thinks if he dosen't have the attention of everyone present he's not important.

Once again for all our sakes... IT'S JUST A CARTOON!!!!

LaBlooGirl
11-21-2006, 06:04 AM
Uh, because Bloo wants all the attention in the whole world. He's an attention hog. Why? Because he thinks if he dosen't have the attention of everyone present he's not important.

Once again for all our sakes... IT'S JUST A CARTOON!!!!

Wow, you're going to get a lot of people irked with that comment, myself included. Clearly, some of us here don't feel this is JUST a cartoon, but rather a form of art and something we are huge fans of. Please don't say stuff like that. If you don't like these sort of discussions, simply don't get involved.

That being said, I do agree with your reasons about why Bloo acted like that, makes sense to me. I forget how much of an attention-moocher he is.

Nathander
11-21-2006, 06:39 AM
Once again for all our sakes... IT'S JUST A CARTOON!!!!

Yes,it is just a cartoon, but like LaBlooGirl said, its also a form of art that many of us care deeply about. Not only that, but it's only natural for people to gain some form of emotional attachment to the characters they're viewing, especially if they've been watching these characters for the past two years. It's only right for people to feel irritation and uneasiness to see Bloo act the way he did because, as its been going, Bloo and Mac have been jumping down each other's throats WAY too much this season. I'm hoping there'll be a bit more reconciliation between the two next season.

Mac proved he's just as good as Goo and it was nice to see Goo get HUMLBED for a change. What's even better was I thought it was a smart move to make Goo be apologetic about the whole issue and not gloat over the aliens capturing Mac and Bloo.

Had she let her ego get in the way, she probably would have gloated over her creations but as we saw, she showed true modesty by accepting responsibility for her mistakes and trying to fix things. Usually Goo doesn't get "knocked down a peg", so it was nice to see her bossyness take a break

I agree completely. Like I've said in other threads,I was hoping this episode would show a kind of "karmic turn-around" for Goo, who's life so far has otherwise seemed almost completely positive. It was the right move to show her apologetic for her mistakes and knocking her ego down a peg.

bigdog
11-21-2006, 09:38 AM
I agree! It's amazing cartoon. It's different than other cartoons in that it can sometimes be much more satisfying than other cartoons. But it is still a cartoon.

I love this cartoon otherwise I wouldn't be registered here. But it remains a cartoon. And that's not a bad thing.

pitbulllady
11-21-2006, 11:11 AM
Wow, you're going to get a lot of people irked with that comment, myself included. Clearly, some of us here don't feel this is JUST a cartoon, but rather a form of art and something we are huge fans of. Please don't say stuff like that. If you don't like these sort of discussions, simply don't get involved.

That being said, I do agree with your reasons about why Bloo acted like that, makes sense to me. I forget how much of an attention-moocher he is.

I agree with you, LaBlooGirl. Saying "it's just a cartoon" really is a put-down to the series, the people who work VERY hard to create it, and the fans, by insinuating that just because this show is done in an animated medium, it's somehow inferior to live-action tv series, which it's not. People who watch theatrical movies often say things like, "it's just a tv show", to put down anything on tv; people who are into live theatrical productions say stuff like, "it's just a movie", to put down films. Being an animated series does not make Foster's any more or any less entertaining or thought-provoking than a non-animated series; the writing and acting on a series make the difference there, regardless of the medium in which the series is created.

pitbulllady

bigdog
11-21-2006, 12:01 PM
Did I say that?!? You're putting words in my mouth guys. I did not say that it's worse than live action. All I meant by it was to say that life goes on whether Bloo shut Mac out or not! Sheesh! I'm not insulting anyone. I thank the entire Foster's crew right down to the janitor who keeps the floors clean in the studio for providing me with an amazingly entertaining show. I'd rather watch Foster's than any TV show right now!

Stop flaming me and stop putting words in my mouth. I just wanted to remind you all that life goes on.

kageri
11-21-2006, 12:18 PM
Let's just chillax. No flaming is going on here that I can see, but I think bigdog meant not that Foster's is "just a cartoon" as opposed to live action but rather "just a cartoon" as opposed to real life, which it is. It is fictional, even though it's a wonderfully thought-provoking and entertaining show, and it really says something about the crew that we can have such intense love for their characters and intense hatred for others, and spend dozens of pages talking about them.

bigdog
11-21-2006, 12:20 PM
Let's just chillax. No flaming is going on here that I can see, but I think bigdog meant not that Foster's is "just a cartoon" as opposed to live action but rather "just a cartoon" as opposed to real life, which it is. It is fictional, even though it's a wonderfully thought-provoking and entertaining show, and it really says something about the crew that we can have such intense love for their characters and intense hatred for others, and spend dozens of pages talking about them.

Amen to that! :grin:

LaBlooGirl
11-21-2006, 12:28 PM
Did I say that?!? You're putting words in my mouth guys. I did not say that it's worse than live action. All I meant by it was to say that life goes on whether Bloo shut Mac out or not! Sheesh! I'm not insulting anyone. I thank the entire Foster's crew right down to the janitor who keeps the floors clean in the studio for providing me with an amazingly entertaining show. I'd rather watch Foster's than any TV show right now!

Stop flaming me and stop putting words in my mouth. I just wanted to remind you all that life goes on.

PBL wasn't flaming you, if you want to talk about over-reacting. We're just very passionate about the show! I can tell you like it too, but whether or not you think we're going overboard with our reactions to certain scenes could have been done better than writing in bold, capitalized letters, "IT'S JUST A CARTOON!!"

That's what I'm talking about.

But certainly there are no harsh feelings against you. Besides, you're entitled to your own opinion as well as anyone else, that I can't deny. ;)

lucyrocks73
11-21-2006, 12:32 PM
I get what you mean... It was slightly rude to put that in capitals (because it kind of seems like you were shouting...)... But hey, you're right.

I'm not flaming you, because I do agree. It IS only a TV show, in some ways, because there is more happening in the world than just Foster's.

At the same time, it's not. This show means SO much to so many people. It has many devoted fans and an awesome crew... What more can the show need?

Not flaming you, just giving my two cents...

-Marty :goo:

One Radical Dude
11-21-2006, 12:39 PM
You see why I chose not to get into this discussion anymore? :P 8D Keep it cool, guys. If you cannot, then please, avoid this topic. Thanks. ;)

LaBlooGirl
11-21-2006, 12:41 PM
You see why I chose not to get into this discussion anymore? :P 8D Keep it cool, guys. If you cannot, then please, avoid this topic. Thanks. ;)

I don't see anyone getting "over-the-top" yet....strong opinions getting thrown around but there hasn't been outright name-calling or punches thrown. LOL

Of course, when discussing GWH this may occur after all.... XD

CG
11-21-2006, 12:49 PM
If people's feelings are getting hurt, then yes. Things are getting a wee bit over the top.

Voxxyn
11-21-2006, 01:48 PM
Foster's isn't really just any cartoon.

Most of the children's cartoons that air on both Nick and CN split each episode into two 11-minute stories, and live by wacky slapsticky humor and situations instead of any kind of storytelling depth. That's not a personal bash towards any of them, it's the simple fact.

Foster's devotes it's entire 22+ minute-per-episode runtime to a single story, which is very rare for a cartoon that isn't an adult primetime sitcom or action-oriented. This leaves a lot of room for the story to be given depth, and for the characters to be developed and fleshed out... and thus causing the fans to form such a deep attachment to them.

IMO, I don't watch Foster's just for the comedy. The comedy is a big part, but it's not because of the plot driving the characters, but the CHARACTERS driving the plot. It's a very character-driven show, and I personally watch to see what the characters will do next, regardless of the outcome. Sometimes it'll make me laugh, sometimes it will touch my heart--and sometimes it'll completely BREAK and SHATTER my heart. It's affected me in a way that no other show(cartoon or live-action) has. I love it.

(That said, I still think that IHFUMEUP is evil and doesn't deserve to exist)

pitbulllady
11-21-2006, 02:13 PM
Foster's isn't really just any cartoon.

Most of the children's cartoons that air on both Nick and CN split each episode into two 11-minute stories, and live by wacky slapsticky humor and situations instead of any kind of storytelling depth. That's not a personal bash towards any of them, it's the simple fact.

Foster's devotes it's entire 22+ minute-per-episode runtime to a single story, which is very rare for a cartoon that isn't an adult primetime sitcom or action-oriented. This leaves a lot of room for the story to be given depth, and for the characters to be developed and fleshed out... and thus causing the fans to form such a deep attachment to them.

IMO, I don't watch Foster's just for the comedy. The comedy is a big part, but it's not because of the plot driving the characters, but the CHARACTERS driving the plot. It's a very character-driven show, and I personally watch to see what the characters will do next, regardless of the outcome. Sometimes it'll make me laugh, sometimes it will touch my heart--and sometimes it'll completely BREAK and SHATTER my heart. It's affected me in a way that no other show(cartoon or live-action) has. I love it.

(That said, I still think that IHFUMEUP is evil and doesn't deserve to exist)

Thank you, thank you, Voxxyn-I could not have put it better myself! No, it's not "real life", but it has many situations that closely mirror real-life, situations that we can personally relate to, and that is something you don't see much on tv in ANY form these days.

pitbulllady

CG
11-21-2006, 02:45 PM
You're over reacting, Voxxyn.

No one is saying Foster's is 'just a cartoon' as in something that shouldn't matter. No, we're not. You're putting words into my mouth if that's what you're getting at. Foster's is a good show, not just good but great. But what you and a few other people do is over analyse and criticize what is meant to be just harmless fun over characters that technically 'aren't real' is what's so disturbing.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m as much a fan of this show as you guys. But sometimes I just like to sit back and enjoy the episodes rather then nit pick every little detail and over analyse what the character did and why. Sure, now and then I theorise, but never do I go to the point of arguing with fellow fans over if something was in character or not.

So Bloo locked Mac out of a room. There's much worse that's happened. Wilt shoving Herriman down a flight of stairs, anyone remember that? Or Bloo making Mr. Herriman almost break his back by making him fall down an even BIGGER set of stairs.

We all know the Space Nut Boogies were really no massive threat, like a killer, their only torture device was a tickling machine and Goo's singing. Not really THAT much of a threat, really.

Am I making excuses? No. So DON'T make it seem like I am, or that I'm out to put down anyone here. I'm just stating what I see, and what I feel. If you guys can go on about one moment, while stepping on people's toes, then I can say this.

But sorry if I have, it’s just this thread has been causing a lot of distress and concern over what’s being said. Please, let’s not ruin the fun atmosphere here by letting this continue. Please.

billytheskink
11-21-2006, 04:00 PM
there are plenty of 30 minute-length children's cartoons...

Foster's not perticularly unique in that respect.

Hoshikaji
11-23-2006, 07:24 AM
::dies:: This was such an awesome episode that it nearly replaced Frankie My Dear for me as my favorite. Nearly. Very nearly. It unlocked so many childhood memories! Especially things like "Nuh uh! I have super powers! So you can't capture me!" "Oh yeah?! Well, I can turn into a mermaid! So you can't catch me!" This is exactly why I find Fosters so amazing. <3 <3

OH, GOOD WILT HUNTING TONIIIIIIGHT! ::salutes Lord Snotzak:: Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

pitbulllady
11-23-2006, 09:01 AM
::dies:: This was such an awesome episode that it nearly replaced Frankie My Dear for me as my favorite. Nearly. Very nearly. It unlocked so many childhood memories! Especially things like "Nuh uh! I have super powers! So you can't capture me!" "Oh yeah?! Well, I can turn into a mermaid! So you can't catch me!" This is exactly why I find Fosters so amazing. <3 <3

OH, GOOD WILT HUNTING TONIIIIIIGHT! ::salutes Lord Snotzak:: Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

I think that particular aspect of this episode was what made it so great for me, since it was SOOO true to how young children think and function and interact with each other. I, too, can remember playing those make-believe games and trying to top the next kid's imagination. Problem is, many children just cannot do this anymore; they're too dependent on electronic things, and that was the whole point of that episode. Not just children, mind you-Wilt was there to remind us that us grown-ups also sometimes tend to really get hung-up on electronic media.

I still think it would have made for one of the funniest scenes in the history of the series, though, for Frankie to have walked through and spotted Wilt in his "Lord Snotzak" persona. There would not have even had to be any dialog-facial expressions alone would have sufficed(and for me, some of the funniest Foster's moments ARE those in which a character says nothing, like the scene in "World Wide Wabbit" in which Mr. Herriman tries to film Bloo and Mac doing something stupid), though Wilt's attempt at explaining just WHY he had a lamp shade on his head would have been side-splitting!



pitbulllady

InsaneFan
11-24-2006, 02:28 PM
Actually, if you listen closely, it's Lord Snotzax. With an x. ^^ It's amazing what you can learn it you're obsessive enough.

I love this episode. LOVE IT. Number 1 on my episode list. I mostly explained why already on the Wilt thread, so ya.

:terrence: But listen to yourselves! Discussing stuff is fine, but when arguements get like that, it's NOT cool. IT'S NOT WORTH ARGUING OVER. We're all friends, calm down! We have differing opinions, SO WHAT? Let it go...

O.O Woah. Did I just type that? It doesn't feel right, with me being so much younger than alla ya'lls...Feel free to tell me to shut-up-shut-up-bo-but-up, etc. I don't mind. It puts me in my place. o.o

scary_dream
11-26-2006, 02:01 AM
No, you're right InsaneFan. We're like a family here, and even though we are different and all have different opinions, that's no reason to be riven. At the least we can agree to disagree.

As for the episode... it is my new #1 favorite! I liked everyone in this episode (even though Bloo DID shut Mac out, I don't think he intended to get Mac hurt... I mean, maybe he was just REALLY scared and wasn't thinking clearly? Even though Bloo is selfish, I don't think he'd EVER intentionally put Mac in danger.)

I enjoyed seeing everyone's alter-egos in this! Even Wilt, who didn't want to play along at first, had one of the best ones (I say ONE of the best, because I don't think anything beats Mac's "Rex Carsalot/Speed Racer" character, and Ed's is REALLY cute!)

To me, it was really light and refreshing to see them all act like kids.

Plus, if I'm getting the line correct, I love it when Bloo says "YOU HATH BEEN OWNED!"

Invader Bloo
11-26-2006, 08:01 AM
there are plenty of 30 minute-length children's cartoons...

Foster's not perticularly unique in that respect.
Ones not devoted to action, only a couple.

Jii
11-28-2006, 04:54 PM
Hey guys, did you miss the moment before Mac freezes time in the end?
Bloo says: "As your sidekick I say DO IT!"
I think that made up for him shutting the door from Mac. After insisting not being Mac's sidekick throught the whole episode I personally found the line quite sweet since it seemed to be such big of a deal for Bloo (as seen in other episodes too).

It was a great episode overall. I didn't get much out of it the first time, but I just watched it the second time and found myself enjoying it. Bloo definitely has some hilarious moments there, and it was refreshing to see that Mac is, behind the intelligence and great sense of morals, just an 8-years-old kid. Watching him getting upset over Goo's attempts to win him and Bloo in the imaginary battle made my day.

I have to admit, though, that at times the characters seemed a bit alien to me - minus Goo whose personality actually got much deeper. It would be cool to know who the writer is, and if this really was his/her first episode. If so, it would make a lot of sense.

A B it is. This is not gonna be one of my favourites, but it was definitely a good episode.

kageri
11-28-2006, 05:11 PM
Hey guys, did you miss the moment before Mac freezes time in the end?
Bloo says: "As your sidekick I say DO IT!"
I think that made up for him shutting the door from Mac. After insisting not being Mac's sidekick throught the whole episode I personally found the line quite sweet since it seemed to be such big of a deal for Bloo (as seen in other episodes too).

It was a great episode overall. I didn't get much out of it the first time, but I just watched it the second time and found myself enjoying it. Bloo definitely has some hilarious moments there, and it was refreshing to see that Mac is, behind the intelligence and great sense of morals, just an 8-years-old kid. Watching him getting upset over Goo's attempts to win him and Bloo in the imaginary battle made my day.

I have to admit, though, that at times the characters seemed a bit alien to me - minus Goo whose personality actually got much deeper. It would be cool to know who the writer is, and if this really was his/her first episode. If so, it would make a lot of sense.

A B it is. This is not gonna be one of my favourites, but it was definitely a good episode.

Ah, I didn't notice that. Awwwww.

I totally agree about Mac. I always love to see him acting like a kid.

And yeah, it feels like someone else wrote it -- strange and disjointed. I'll have to watch it again, since I wasn't paying terribly close attention the first time, but that's the impression I got.

InsaneFan
11-28-2006, 06:59 PM
Muaha! I wonder if Goo kept the potato whale or if he's living at Foster's now too. xD Probably neither, because we weren't supposed to catch it, I guess. Really, check it out. In her room, when she wakes up and sees all the space nut boogies and whatnot, THERE'S A FOR SERIOUS POTATO WHALE! x3 I never would've noticed if I hadn't paused it when I was making Mom watch it and she had to go make dinner. I sat there for a sec, then burst out laughing and freaked her out. 8D

I have the craziest reputation for pausing movies at the weirdest moments...Haha.

taranchula
11-28-2006, 09:34 PM
Muaha! I wonder if Goo kept the potato whale or if he's living at Foster's now too. xD Probably neither, because we weren't supposed to catch it, I guess. Really, check it out. In her room, when she wakes up and sees all the space nut boogies and whatnot, THERE'S A FOR SERIOUS POTATO WHALE! x3 I never would've noticed if I hadn't paused it when I was making Mom watch it and she had to go make dinner. I sat there for a sec, then burst out laughing and freaked her out. 8D

I have the craziest reputation for pausing movies at the weirdest moments...Haha.

You're not alone, I did in fact notice when it panned out to show all of Goo's latest creations before it faded to black, there was in fact the...Potato Whale! amongst the group. Sadly Mr. Potato Whale did not get anymore screen time aside from the brief cameo.

YuckieDuck
11-29-2006, 12:23 PM
edit: sorry, messed up on the writer. It was Kirk Thatcher.


Here's an interview I found with Thatcher: http://movies.ign.com/articles/035/035854p1.html

Kirk has surely done a lot of work. A model painter on E.T. and Star Wars, director of Muppets, actor/song writer on Star Trek, writer on Foster's... :bloogrin

LaBlooGirl
11-29-2006, 05:35 PM
Hey guys, did you miss the moment before Mac freezes time in the end?
Bloo says: "As your sidekick I say DO IT!"
I think that made up for him shutting the door from Mac. After insisting not being Mac's sidekick throught the whole episode I personally found the line quite sweet since it seemed to be such big of a deal for Bloo (as seen in other episodes too).



I have to admit, though, that at times the characters seemed a bit alien to me - minus Goo whose personality actually got much deeper. It would be cool to know who the writer is, and if this really was his/her first episode. If so, it would make a lot of sense.

A B it is. This is not gonna be one of my favourites, but it was definitely a good episode.

No I didn't realize that! Awesome you pointed it out, because it makes me feel better about the whole scene now. I forgive Bloo. :bloogrin
So he can be REAL STUBBORN, but EVENTUALLY, he'll get the point and give in sometimes. Okay, this makes me take that negative point off of Bloo. LOL
YAY! Mac n Bloo forever. :bloogrin:)

Yeah the ep DOES seem "Disjointed", nice choice of word there. I think it was a little odd at times and a bit OOC, but that's happened in a few other eps. (Foster's Goes to Europe comes to mind) and well, I think we just have to expect that once in a while. Keeps things interesting, to say the least.

Yay, Jii has made me feel better about that ep now. Thanks Jii! ;)

Jii
12-02-2006, 11:24 AM
No I didn't realize that! Awesome you pointed it out, because it makes me feel better about the whole scene now. I forgive Bloo. :bloogrin
So he can be REAL STUBBORN, but EVENTUALLY, he'll get the point and give in sometimes.

Yay, Jii has made me feel better about that ep now. Thanks Jii! ;)

Exactly, and usually he gives in very subtly without really admitting he was wrong and someone else was right, and this little scene was a prime example of that. :bloogrin

The pleasure is all mine! I'm glad it doesn't bother you so much anymore.

Invader Bloo
12-02-2006, 08:34 PM
"I made pants pie"
One of the few crud jokes in the series, yet the funniest.:-/

Mr. Marshmallow
12-02-2006, 10:00 PM
Exactly, and usually he gives in very subtly without really admitting he was wrong and someone else was right, and this little scene was a prime example of that.

Sadly, that doesn't make me feel a whole lot better about the incident.

InsaneFan
12-03-2006, 10:55 AM
Hey, are you guys forgetting "Okay, just pretend you don't know me, and the eclairs are ours!" xD That part is GREAT. I love when that kinda thing happens...When some caper or other is about to be pulled with little explaination and it gets interrupted, leaving you to wonder...

scary_dream
12-03-2006, 11:50 AM
Me too! I DID forget about that! Not to mention, Bloo was dressed as a stereotypical mariachi band member, so that makes it even better trying to wonder what eclairs, Mac not knowing Bloo, and the mariachi getup involves 8D

"C" the Dragon
12-03-2006, 01:40 PM
Hey, are you guys forgetting "Okay, just pretend you don't know me, and the eclairs are ours!" xD That part is GREAT. I love when that kinda thing happens...When some caper or other is about to be pulled with little explaination and it gets interrupted, leaving you to wonder...

You're right. That *is* funny. It's one of my favorite parts!:D

InsaneFan
12-03-2006, 08:37 PM
Me too! I DID forget about that! Not to mention, Bloo was dressed as a stereotypical mariachi band member, so that makes it even better trying to wonder what eclairs, Mac not knowing Bloo, and the mariachi getup involves 8D

Exactly. :D

koosie
12-05-2006, 09:32 AM
I just seen this for the first time. Before reading 14 pages of other people's I'll express my worthless opinions.

This episode was great! I hope you all liked it as much as I did. Funnily enough I'd written a Goo/sci-fi fanfic months ago but it wernt a patch on this. Bloo was really good in it and it was great to see Goo totally needled by Mac out-imagining her. Eduardo had the best line though about 2/3 of the way through (we only get one ad break). It's nice to see Fosters stooping to that sort of thing.

Hey they just said on the radio that many problems in the south pacific are caused by 'coups'. That made me stop. Er...it sounded like 'koos'. Never mind.

Yeh. Good episode. A+

Kzinistzerg
12-09-2006, 09:19 AM
This was a good ep. I just managed to get to see it, since I didn't catch it about five times in a row, but it's a very good ep, and nice to see all that goes on. I didn't catch the HGTTG reference though, because i think in one of the movies they're actually in chairs ro soemthing and though i've reread the books recently I don't quite remeber the movies...

TrickyDisco
12-09-2006, 02:07 PM
This is defintely my favest episode EVER. (so far at least...)

I was getting disappointed with the latest eps, so I kinda strayed a bit from the whole series for a few weeks...then I find *this* gem!
IMHO there is nothing lacking in this ep, adding favourites like Frankie, Cheese, Madame Foster, Herriman, Terrence (or whoever) would just have been overkill.

This ep was just silly enough to work just right; so many elements that all worked together to make a great episode. (naming them all and how/why they worked would take WAYYY to much space on here!)

The part where Goo and Coco throw the sleeping gas bomb and exclaim what it does to make it work *so* much reminds me of when I used to play all sorts of imaginary games with my friends when I was Mac and Goo's age..and that is 20 years ago 8D

The whole "Yarr!" thing Bloo is spouting during the power-out had me in tears and I *so* have to find a way to edit the video with just those parts for I know my fandom will be in sticthes...especially the "Pwned!" part! ;)

Still, this one gets a 10 out of 10 from me...

Voxxyn
12-09-2006, 02:18 PM
Frankie, Mr. Herriman and Madame Foster were probably still out forcing Lil' Lincoln and Moose to return the dirty money and retrieve the 2,000+ imaginary friends they sold in the previous episode.

Mr. Marshmallow
12-09-2006, 03:06 PM
Frankie, Mr. Herriman and Madame Foster were probably still out forcing Lil' Lincoln and Moose to return the dirty money and retrieve the 2,000+ imaginary friends they sold in the previous episode.

I could buy that, but of course it would have helped if the episode said SOMETHING instead of leaving it up to speculation. I hate it when they do that because it usually just means "it's anybody's guess".

fosters home fan
01-09-2007, 05:24 PM
Frankie, Mr. Herriman and Madame Foster were probably still out forcing Lil' Lincoln and Moose to return the dirty money and retrieve the 2,000+ imaginary friends they sold in the previous episode.

Perhaps,but I just found it odd that NO ONE except for Goo Mac Bloo Wilt Eduardo Coco and the friends Goo made appeared at all.:terrconf:

Crash-N-Cortex
01-10-2007, 10:30 PM
I also find it odd that Mac and Goo are the only humans to appear, and they weren't any adults at all in this episode. It's still great episode to enjoy. It just needs more characters in this episode.

pitbulllady
01-11-2007, 03:43 AM
I also find it odd that Mac and Goo are the only humans to appear, and they weren't any adults at all in this episode. It's still great episode to enjoy. It just needs more characters in this episode.

I don't think that the episode suffered from a lack of adult humans. Frankie and Madame Foster are the only adult HUMANS(emphasis on HUMAN)who are regulars on the show, anyway. I think that Wilt most ably handled the role of the "Responsible Adult", who rather unwillingly got dragged into a kids' game, then found himself getting into rather more than he would ever have figured! It's a pretty good way to show that even responsible adults still have imagination and can still "cut loose" every now and then and indulge their own "Inner Child".

pitbulllady