Frankie

[Medikor]

That's one of the great things about Frankie: She can make anything look good! I don't even like it when people wear hats backwards.8D

[billytheskink]

"I'm punk rock" t-shirts

that's what we need.

[Medikor]

I'll pass on those. I don't like punkrock.8D

[Cassini90125]

I'll pass on those. I don't like punkrock.8D

But... but Frankie likes it! Medikor, how could you? :o

(teasing, of course. ;) )

[Medikor]

I could handle a shirt like that on Frankie. Like I said: She can make anything look good.8D

[Cassini90125]

That for sure. I like her in green lately for some reason.

(Gets inspiration, fires up Sims 2 program...) ;D

[Medikor]

Yeah. My favorite outfit she has is her everyday one. You know: the skirt, t-shirt and green sweater.:D

[billytheskink]

I'll pass on those. I don't like punkrock.8D
neither do I, but that wouldn't stop me...

How about a "Frankie Says Relax..." shirt, quoting Bloo's pop culture reference from Who Let the Dogs In?

[Medikor]

I'm not into that kind of music so I didan't catch that joke before. And yes. A Frankie say's shirt would be heaven.:D

[Voxxyn]

My T-Shirt Idea: Frankie standing with an innocent smile in her trademark hoody and skirt, with the words "She's so nice..." on the front...

I'll let you guess what's on the back. No, guess. ;)

[Medikor]

On the back it would have the pic of you're avatar and "So cute when frustrated" on it?8D

[Voxxyn]

Erm... I was thinking more along the lines of what Frankie likes to wear on her dates, and what Bloo thinks of her...

But now that you mention it, the "So Cute When Frustrated" with an angry Frankie would make a great separate t-shirt. :D

[Cassini90125]

How about a "Frankie Says Relax..." shirt, quoting Bloo's pop culture reference from Who Let the Dogs In?

I'm not into that kind of music so I didan't catch that joke before. And yes. A Frankie say's shirt would be heaven.:D

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f184/Cassini90125/FSR.jpg

Close enough? :frankiesmile:

[Medikor]

That's pretty cool! Nice work.:D

[billytheskink]

ah, Frankie goes to Hollywood humor...

even I don't really get it.

[Medikor]

I just saw "Imposters", and I have to say that it was a great episode. It had so many priceles Frankie momants, and despite the awful day she had, she learns that she isant invisivable. Yes, she missed out on the day she had planned, and probobly lost a year or two of her life due to stress. But she found out the she isant taken for granted by the imaginary friends. I thought it was a great episode.:D

[Kzinistzerg]

*runs for the bomb shelter*

The "frankie says relax" shirt is great, cassini!

[Mr. Marshmallow]

:macwor:

This cannot end well.

[Medikor]

I don't get it. Is he being sarcastic or something? I thought it was cool.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

No, I wasn't. The thing is that for the most part, or at least from what I have heard from every single person who has mentioned anything about Frankie or this episode in general, has stated that they absolutely freaking hate it.

I strongly despise it myself because despite how "happy" the outcome may have been, this was a straight up hell hole for Frankie and it was just one miserable slap in the face for her, scene after scene. This was just tearing her apart from start to finish.

No one really likes or appreciates how Goofball so carelessly tor into Frankie and just purposely caused her grief.

[Kzinistzerg]

Agreed. Though I dunno if he was referring to you or me, For me at leat, there were parts that viewed alone were funny... But the cumulative effect was simply frankie playing cinderella with no prince at the end.

[Medikor]

I was refering to Kzinisistzerg. Why wouls he brace himself for ridicule if he was comenting on Cassini's pic? Anyway, Imposters WAS a good episode. Yes, it was a hard time for Frankie. But I think the outcome was much better for her then if she got to go to that concert. (Her face when she saw the others come back from that same concert was pricelesly funny8D ) She learned that the imaginary friends in the house appreciate her and Goofball DID kinda apologise to her in the end. He said she took good care of him, despite her suspistions. And as bad a day as she was haveing, it wasan't so bad that you couldant laugh about it.(Not at her, but her plight) Everybody has REALLY bad day's. That's waht makes the episode so funny. And to top it off-Frankie was so cute in that rubber nose!:D

[Kzinistzerg]

I could sympathise because i've had days almost exactly like that... and it usually makes me mad enough to murder someone. And that's why I don't find it as funny.

My comment might not have made much sense, but i was referring to your post with the bomb shelter.

Also, it's 'she'. ; )

[Medikor]

I could sympathise because i've had days almost exactly like that... and it usually makes me mad enough to murder someone. And that's why I don't find it as funny.

My comment might not have made much sense, but i was referring to your post with the bomb shelter.

Also, it's 'she'. ; )

Oh! My apologie's maddam.8D

[Kzinistzerg]

No problem, it's easy to mistake online.

[taranchula]

I was refering to Kzinisistzerg. Anyway, Imposters WAS a good episode. Yes, it was a hard time for Frankie. But I think the outcome was much better for her then if she got to go to that concert. (Her face when she saw the others come back from that same concert was pricelesly funny8D ) She learned that the imaginary friends in the house appreciate her and Goofball DID kinda apologise to her in the end. He said she took good care of him, despite her suspistions. And as bad a day as she was haveing, it wasan't so bad that you couldant laugh about it.(Not at her, but her plight) Everybody has REALLY bad day's. That's waht makes the episode so funny. And to top it off-Frankie was so cute in that rubber nose!:D

Yeah I kind of agree with this statement, after all when Craig et al write these episodes it's not their intent to make viewers angry, they just want to put their characters in as many humorous situations as possible in the time they are given (Well at least that what I think anyways), and yes there are people out there that would find Frankie's numerous hassles and trials in this episode to be funny, but then again if you don't that's perfectly all right too, no one says you "have" to like everything they throw your way.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Putting someone in a humouros situation is all well and good, making the outcome of said situation humourous, now that's another issue. Just because you put someone in a situation that could be funny doesn't exactly mean it will be funny. It mostly relies on the type of humor you are trying to implicate.

Maybe it's because I'm a die hard Frankie fan and she's sweet as chocolate ice cream, but I don't see the humor in putting her through hours worth of verbal and physical hell all because of some asshole who is purposely taking advantage of your'e good nature. Sympathy for this comes to mind more then humor.

It's usually funny when the person (by nature) is an ass or rude or has done something worthy of such a back lashing, or if the gags are more physical and three stooges like. But this episode's humor was just making Frankie miserable, and having everyone in the house verbally tear her down a peg or two.

And I know all too well of people's intentions being misread, but I personally dislike any form of character bashing, especially if it makes you feel sorry for the person being bashed, which was supposed to be the comedic part here. I felt the same way for Mac for "I only have Surprise for you".

Granted though, that episode had comedic elements outside of bashing Mac, such as Mac going commando crazy and Eduardo being the only one not in on it. But again, the end result was still nothing more then a slap in the face to Mac. It also doesn't help the fact that Frankie is quite underappreciated in the show.

[Voxxyn]

I'm not so sure I agree that they were "just trying to be funny". Torturing Frankie is funny when done right, but I'm sorry, but I just don't see what's so funny about a premise in which she gets torn apart from start-to-finish with absolutely no redemption aside from a worthless apology at the very end, at the hands of a complete jerk of a guest character(Who inexplicably gets away with it). The nature in which she got abused was so callously severe that I have no choice but to believe that they DELIBERATELY wanted to shock and aggravate viewers.

My fingers remain crossed that future Frankie episodes will be more like "Setting A President" than "Imposter's".

[Mr. Marshmallow]

The nature in which she got abused was so callously severe that I have no choice but to believe that they DELIBERATELY wanted to shock and aggravate viewers.

My fingers remain crossed that future Frankie episodes will be more like "Setting A President" than "Imposter's".

Ditto, ditto.

[Cassini90125]

I agree 100%. It was pure torture, nothing more. I will never watch that episode again. I just can't bear to see her treated like that. It really tears me up inside. :'(

[taranchula]

Well that's your opinion there gents, and there is nothing that myself and anyone else can do to change it.

But all I am just saying is that all things are subjective, that episode of Foster's in particular, yeah, you guys hated how Frankie was treated there, that's not a secret. But on the other hand, other people may have gleened some humor out of what was happening.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

If you dislike Frankie or enjoy that kind of humor (bashing I mean) then that's all well in good, but it's hard even for me to like any episode that purposely goes out of it's way to "get" someone. Which is really what happened here from start to finish.

I've seen the same thing happen in Pokemon, Ranma 1/2, Ben 10, Extreme Ghostbusters, Sailor Moon, Digimon, and others. Even if I hate the character, it annoys the crap out of me when an episode purposely tries to destroy someone. And every gag and every punchline revolves around making that char feel worse.

Also sometimes it is the writers intention to make the character suffer. Perfect example: in Batman Beyond a female char called Maxine is introduced into the show that knows Terry/Batman's true identity and kinda forces her way onto the team. The writers on the show admitted to disliking Maxine.

Maxine was only put in to satisfy female viewers. In one episode, they actually had the elderly Bruce Wayne set up a situation that more or less "screws" Maxine in the end. That was put in to basically get back at the character. I'm not saying it's the same thing here, but it has happened.

But like I said before, humor at someone else's misery is all well in good when it is done to be funny. Frankie going insane over a cookie obsession and getting herself stuffed and on the verge of barfing, funny and weird. Frankie getting verbally trashed by EVERYONE with no payback for Goofball....

Not cool. But that's just me, and being a Frankie fan isn't my soul reason for feeling this way, this episode was out to get Frankie whether I like her or not.

[Medikor]

Well, Some plusses did happen in the end for Frankie. Like I said, she learned that she isan't taken for granted. Goofball didan't get to stay at Foster's, and Bloo was shown as an idiot at the end. But I'm sure Frankie woulda't have gone thrue so much trouble if she just took everyone's word for it, and accepted Goofball as an imaginary friend (I'm sure anyone would assume he was just a kid in disguise).
I may be mistaken, but dosa't every character get an episode like this? I mean, Mr. Harriman (He only work's Frankie so hard because he KNOWS she'll be his boss someday;) ) get's his every once in a while. I love Frankie, but I still enjoyed "Imposters". I thought it was a funny episode, and it did give us more of our favorite character.:D I know many of you don't like it. That's cool. No one said you had to. Sorry if I made any of you angry.:(

[Voxxyn]

I'm not at all angry. It's fine if you think different; and I'm happy that you at least found enjoyment in that episode.

And I have to say this: if Craig, Lauren or anyone else from the staff happen to actually read what we say here, I hope that they don't take the last few posts of this thread personally. I have nothing but great respect for them, and I genuinely enjoy most of what they do. The writing and the animation is some of the best I've seen on a "silly kids' show" in a very long time. And whether they intend it or not--they've created characters that are easy to love and get attached to.

I hope they're able to tell apart the "MAKE BLOO A NICE GUY! MAKE EVERYTHING HAPPY!" fanatics on TV.com from us people here who genuinely appreciate and love what they're trying to do, even if not everything makes everybody happy.

[Medikor]

That's where I think the magic of this show and it's characters comes from. Lauren and Craig love this show. It's their baby. And they have made some truely timeless and memorable characters. Frankie being one of them.:D

[Cassini90125]

I had to do this, because she's the best:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f184/Cassini90125/C9-004.gif

Not too bad for a program that came out in 1995.

[taranchula]

That looks like a Las Vegas marqee...

Now appearing at the Rainbow Room, It's Frances Foster's one woman show: FRANKIE! FRANKIE! FRANKIE!

[Cassini90125]

Well, if anyone ever deserved to have her name up in lights... :frankiesmile:

[billytheskink]

nicely done, though it makes me a bit nauseus looking at it for a while.

[Cassini90125]

It is a little loud, I'll admit that. I'd been experimenting with the border for awhile when I realized that it was surrounding nothing but a black rectangle, and it needed a centerpiece. Frankie was the first thing that came to mind (big surprise), so I capped her pic on the CN site, placed her in the frame, and added the caption. Trust me, I'll come up with better stuff over time. ;)

[Medikor]

It's very good. My computer is very new, and I can't do anything like that.8D

[Voxxyn]

I really, really, REALLY hope that the writers remember to give Frankie some more episodes for Season 5. Right now, it looks as if "The Big Cheese" will be the closest Season 4 will get to such... and ironically, although it was funny and I even have a screencap of it as my current avatar, it's an episode that seems like it was only pressured into existence by network executives and advertisers who want to hype Cheese as hard as possible.

I say "ironically" because it brings me to something that I'm fearing more and more each day. With Foster's slowly getting more merchandising deals and mainstream attention, I have a horrible feeling that the writers will start relying more on the "Foster's Five" and heavily-hyped recurring favorites like Cheese and Goo so that they can appeal to the kids and get even more mainstream attention--and, as a result, neglect Frankie more and more, to the point that she's reduced to a minor footnote that appears once in a while. Sadly, because she is neither part of the so-called "Foster's Five" or a recurring character that Cartoon Network is hellbent on shoving down everybody's throats, I feel that CN executives and merchandisers could start swaying Craig and the writers into doing exactly that.

I'm doing my best to keep an open mind, but it's almost impossible. I fear that such could very well be the case. :(

[Cassini90125]

Check the review for Episode #49, "Emancipation Complication", on the CN site. It looks like Frankie has a major role in that one.

[Medikor]

Frankie will alway's be a forrunner for the show. I find that it's like they find any excuse to put her in the show. "My so called wife" is a good example. She wasan't necasary, but it was nice to see her there. Plus, Frankie is a useful character to use when friction or an added touch is needed.
Frankie is popular. And I don't think we'll be seeing any less of her.:D

[billytheskink]

Frankie's role in the show is too large for her not to appear in the majority of the show's episodes, that's the way it has been thus far. She probably won't be featured or a major player in as many episodes as the big five, but she'll get her screen time.

She had a pretty big part in "Bus the two of us", among other recent episodes.
It may simply be difficult to make Frankie-centric episodes entertaining for the wide variety of Foster's fans. We certainly saw such difficulty come out in the much-maligned "Imposter's".

[Cassini90125]

Thinking back to the short episodes like "Seeing Red", they could write one that's Frankie-centric. I'm thinking about a simple storyline where we follow her on a trip to the supermarket and watch her deal with the "joy" of picking up groceries, something we've all put up with. At the end of an exhausting day of bargain hunting, dodging shopping carts, and dealing with incompetent store workers she returns to Foster's, where Bloo complains that the chips she picked up are not salt & vinegar flavor. Short, amusing, and all Frankie. :frankiesmile:

[Voxxyn]

No offense, but I HATE that premise. I'm having a hard time figuring out what's so funny about Frankie struggling too hard for something, only to get proverbially spit in the face at the end as "reward" for her efforts.

Frankie's misery is hilarious when it's either done in a purely goofy way("Cookie Dough") or there's some justice at the end("Busted" and "Crime After Crime"). But that idea sounds like a shorthand version of "Imposter's".

And if they actually made that into an episode, it would only confirm the fears I expressed on my last post: the "Foster's Five" and Cheese/Goo would get all the attention and lots of full-lenght episodes, and all Frankie gets is a "shorthand episode" where she gets ripped apart from start to finish.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Well I do think Frankie on some sort of level, does enjoy doing the whole grocery thing because in truth it's all part of her taking care schtick. She loves taking care of imaginary friends and people and as angry as she gets, I think on some level she enjoys it.

Frankie obviously is also the only one aware that if she doesn't do this stuff then NO one will. It's like in Aqua Teen Hungerforce when Frylock moved out, and Shake and Meatwad ended up living in a chicken disease suffocating house. She's the glue to holding up Foster's and everyone in it.

I think though if she gets another episode like "Setting a president" she needs to have involvement with someone like Bloo or Mac. Frankie isn't the kind of person to make mischeif or troubles for herself, that comes from people around her or set ups like Goofball, the cookie thing, or the security code.

Frankie needs a Bloo to piss her off so we can laugh at her reactions, Frankie is good at playing off of others and no matter who it is Herriman, Bloo, or Cheese, I think Frankie's best work is when she's working with someone rather then going solo. Mac and Bloo can work as a whole for an episode.

Certain characters cannot. Frankie can, I'm just saying I think it'd be alot better and funnier if she played off someone else.

[Cassini90125]

No offense, but I HATE that premise. I'm having a hard time figuring out what's so funny about Frankie struggling too hard for something, only to get proverbially spit in the face at the end as "reward" for her efforts.

None taken. The idea behind it was that it's something everyone can relate to. Plus, unlike that loser Goofball, it's not an aggravation directed specifically at her, it's just an annoying part of life. I guess I'm thinking more along the lines of life's little hassles, and the accompanying little triumphs, rather than it's major heartaches. Seeing Frankie frustrated is one thing; something like another "Imposter's" is out of the question.

By the way, guys, guess who's thread is the first on the Forum to reach 300 posts? :frankiesmile:

[Voxxyn]

I get what you mean by focusing on "life's little hassles"; Frankie's frustration itself isn't what bothered me. What bothered me(and greatly) was the ending to that premise, with Bloo whining about the chips not being what he expected--as if you were suggesting it would end with Frankie being sent to the mall again and thus forced to repeat those hassles. If you cited a different ending with some form of payback for her, it would've been cool with me, but that one... well, it may not be as painful as "Imposter's", but it's still very much slapping her in the face despite her efforts.

EDIT: Congrats to everybody for reaching 300+ posts! :frankiesmile:

[Cassini90125]

Well, after Bloo announces his displeasure, we cut to a scene of the house. We hear him yell "Hey! What the - ? Oww!" We cut back to the last scene, where we find Frankie smiling serenely because Bloo is now wearing the offending bag of chips. Roll credits. :-*

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Now there's a funny idea for a set up.

Lock Frankie and Bloo in a room or place or mall or something, god only knows how that would turn out.

The funny thing about that is Frankie is the only one who really has the guts to shut Bloo up or throw stuff at him or yell at him etc.

Mac's too nice, and as we see whenever he does ANYTHING with Bloo, Mac can't stop Bloo and he lacks the guts to give em a few whacks like Frankie.

[Voxxyn]

That sounds like it would be funny.

---

Frankie: (realizing that she's locked in with Bloo) "THIS IS THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE!" (pauses for a few seconds, calming down her angry expression a bit) "I mean, other than the day those scribbles were released when I was little, or that time I had to clean up all those messes because you broke my grandma's bust, or when I had to look for you and the rest at the mall, or when I nearly lost my computer because you had to post that dumb "Funny Bunny" video online, or when I got locked out of the house on Halloween, or when I went on that cookie binge, or when grandma kept slapping me over that disgusting dessert, or when you stole the bus and forced everybody else into lying to me about it, or when Cheese nearly ruined our planned TV coverage, or--" (stops suddenly with a stumped look) "Am I forgetting something?"

Bloo: "...that day with Goof--"

Frankie: (gets up close on Bloo's face with a furious glare) "ESPECIALLY GOOFBALL!!!"

---

And once they get out at the end, maybe Frankie could somewhat gain a mutual respect for Bloo, due to him doing something uncharacteristically kind of him that helps comfort her in the meantime or even play a big role in getting them out. Please note my use of "somewhat", though... because it's just too fun to see them getting on each other's nerves for them to just suddenly become "best friends"-like.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

That is actually a REALLY good line set up there, that would work out really well if that was ever made into an episode.

That reminds me of when Mac was running down the list of Bloo's antics during "Setting a President". Mac had like EVERY DETAIL!

"Ruined a date for Frankie, broke a squeezy toy Eduardo had, ruined my reputation at school, broke a bust of Madame Foster, hurt Coco's feelings, ate all of the camping food, stole the cookie recipie" etc.

I just thought of that after reading your post Voxxyn. I actually think Bloo would do something nice for Frankie and she would respect him, but then I imagined knowing Bloo, he'd do something rude again to her and she'd strangle him ;D.

Bloo has to have the last word in, "Neighbor Pains" is a fine example of that, he's too immature to be nice to anyone without getting a few jabs in.

EDIT

WHOO HOOO Permanent resident baby yeah!!!

[kageri]

I don't think that premise is a slap in the face at all. Frankie's a wonderful character and person, but she needs annoyances in her life, because she's a sane person surrounded by screwballs. It's part of the show, and if anything it makes her even more admirable for getting through it all day after day and still being positive.

[Medikor]

It's not like Bloo and Frankie are enimy's. I'm sure they get along. You see that they do smoetimes. Frankie even say's that Bloo is "an awesome friend" in House of Bloo's. Ofcourse, that's before she gets to know him better.;)
But an episode where the two have to work together, for whatever reason, and actually getting along long enough to finish the job in the end, would be a nice episode.:D

[kageri]

It's not like Bloo and Frankie are enimy's. I'm sure they get along. You see that they do smoetimes. Frankie even say's that Bloo is "an awesome friend" in House of Bloo's. Ofcourse, that's before she gets to know him better.;)
But an episode where the two have to work together, for whatever reason, and actually getting along long enough to finish the job in the end, would be a nice episode.:D

I liked World Wide Wabbit because they, in a rare turn of events, cooperated and were like.... on the same wavelength, being all mischievous and stuff and Frankie wasn't the "sober voice of reason" anymore. It was great.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Frankie doesn't like Bloo, she proved that by ditching him in "Squeeze the Day". Otherwise, she has 3 episodes worth of proof of why to dislike Bloo:

"Bus the two of us"

"Setting a President"

"Store Wars"

Granted Frankie doesn't hate Bloo, but I think it's safe to say he is the last person she would want to be stuck with on an empty island for example.

[Medikor]

That was a good episode. It really played out all the main characters involved. But I also enjoyed Frankie and Bloo's cooperation. It's VERY similar to me and my youngest brother. We don't get along at all- but when the planet's aligne and a blue moon emerges from the clouds, watch out!8D

[kageri]

Frankie doesn't like Bloo, she proved that by ditching him in "Squeeze the Day". Otherwise, she has 3 episodes worth of proof of why to dislike Bloo:

"Bus the two of us"

"Setting a President"

"Store Wars"

Granted Frankie doesn't hate Bloo, but I think it's safe to say he is the last person she would want to be stuck with on an empty island for example.

I don't think many people could tolerate being stuck on an empty island with Bloo, but I think Frankie has a fondness for Bloo deep down in her heart, even if he drives her insane. His and Mac's friendship could warm anyone's heart, when he isn't making him be his butler Wimpy.

[Voxxyn]

Mac's list in "Setting A President" was exactly where I got my inspiration for that Frankie/Bloo dialogue in my last post. Though I must admit I was confused by some of Mac's choices... particulary, "ruined Frankie's date". If you notice, I DIDN'T include that one amongst Frankie's list of bad days, because it makes absolutely no sense to me. It actually turned out very well in the end, because thanks to them "ruining" her date, she realized how much a loser Dylan was and who her TRUE friends were.

And yes, I do think Bloo is a "true friend" of Frankie. Because I'm sure that, very deep down in her heart, no matter how furious she gets with him or how much she delights at every opportunity to punish him--she cares much about him and wants him to remain at Foster's. Or at the very least, I think she realizes just how much Bloo means to Mac, and thus would never dare to try to break them up just to make her job slightly easier.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I think Frankie also deals with him mainly for Mac's sake. Frankie's problems mostly stem from just 2 imaginary friends, Bloo and Mr. Herriman and at least Herriman has a somewhat of moral code, even if he is anal rententive.

I think despite the fact that Dylan turned out to be an ass, the fact was that Bloo was putting Frankie on the spot and they really had no idea Dylan was a jerk. They went there to bug her because of there little crushes on Frankie.

So even though Dylan turned out to be a jerk, Bloo still crashed her date and made it difficult for her in that position. I think Mac was looking at it that way instead of the whole "the ends justify the means" point of view.

[kageri]

Mac's list in "Setting A President" was exactly where I got my inspiration for that Frankie/Bloo dialogue in my last post. Though I must admit I was confused by some of Mac's choices... particulary, "ruined Frankie's date". If you notice, I DIDN'T include that one amongst Frankie's list of bad days, because it makes absolutely no sense to me. It actually turned out very well in the end, because thanks to them "ruining" her date, she realized how much a loser Dylan was and who her TRUE friends were.

And yes, I do think Bloo is a "true friend" of Frankie. Because I'm sure that, very deep down in her heart, no matter how furious she gets with him or how much she delights at every opportunity to punish him--she cares much about him and wants him to remain at Foster's. Or at the very least, I think she realizes just how much Bloo means to Mac, and thus would never dare to try to break them up just to make her job slightly easier.

Yeah, seriously. If they hadn't "ruined" it, she probably would have wasted her time going out with him again.

I agree, I think Frankie does regard Bloo (huh-huh-huh... regard Bloo) as a friend, even if he makes her job harder. She gets stressed out, but she obviously loves being with/caring for the IFs, even the annoying ones.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I'm not saying that Dylan didn't need to be exposed, all I am saying is truthfully whether Frankie was dating a nice guy or a creep like Dylan, Bloo still ruined the date and it wasn't to expose Dylan.

I highly doubt Mac, the pizza guy, Bloo, or Prince Charming had any idea of what Dylan was like. Frankie was dating the guy and had no clue, odds are that they didn't know either.

[Cassini90125]

I think she would have found out what Dylan was really like on her own, eventually. Bloo was acting in his own self-interest, nothing more, but I think the crush angle made it cute rather than just malicious.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I think she would have found out what Dylan was really like on her own, eventually. Bloo was acting in his own self-interest, nothing more, but I think the crush angle made it cute rather than just malicious.

True, but if you look at Frankie's expression during "Setting a President" when Mac ran off the list, you can tell she didn't really like what she was hearing.

[Medikor]

I'm sure Frankie really care's for Bloo. You just help but like him as a character. It is obveously very differant haveing to live with him, but Frankie is a very careing woman. If my big sister has taught me ANYTHING it's this: No matter how much her three little brothers acted like monsters and drived her nuts, she still cared for us and even loved us. We're still family, and Bloo and Frankie are still (in a sence) family.
And I'm sure her tolerance and patiance for him also (don't hate me for saying this laydie's) stems from the fact that she is a girl. As a big sister, she is going to be less confrontational and be more compasionate. If she were a guy, she would be more likely to lash out and even consider hitting him (I know I would!8D ) to beat some common sence into him. But Frankie is too good a person to do that, and that's why I lover her. Ofcourse, she still manages to get her licks in on Bloo and the others. She's no damsel in distres.;)

[Cassini90125]

True, but if you look at Frankie's expression during "Setting a President" when Mac ran off the list, you can tell she didn't really like what she was hearing.

True, and I don't blame her. Regardless of the outcome, he was still making a pest of himself and ruining her evening. I think she forgave him, but didn't forget it, either. It can't have been a fun night for her.

I'm sure Frankie really care's for Bloo. You just help but like him as a character. It is obveously very differant haveing to live with him, but Frankie is a very careing woman. If my big sister has taught me ANYTHING it's this: No matter how much her three little brothers acted like monsters and drived her nuts, she still cared for us and even loved us. We're still family, and Bloo and Frankie are still (in a sence) family.
And I'm sure her tolerance and patiance for him also (don't hate me for saying this laydie's) stems from the fact that she is a girl. As a big sister, she is going to be less confrontational and be more compasionate. If she were a guy, she would be more likely to lash out and even consider hitting him (I know I would!8D ) to beat some common sence into him. But Frankie is too good a person to do that, and that's why I lover her. Of course, she still manages to get her licks in on Bloo and the others. She's no damsel in distress.;)

And all that is part of what sets her apart from so many other cartoon characters. It's her caring side, her commitment to the house and it's residents, that really makes her something special and not just another one-dimensional hottie. Even her seemingly low frustration threshold is endearing, as it makes her seem more real, more believable. I don't recall ever meeting anyone quite like Frankie Foster, cartoon or real, and I doubt I ever will. She's quite a lady. :frankiesmile:

[Voxxyn]

It's true that they were acting selfishly, and didn't know at all what Dylan was like.

But I like to think that, if Frankie were dating someone who truly deserved her, he would've instantly told off Bloo and the others in a way indicating that he genuinely cares about Frankie and understands her not-so-pleasant profession and thus wants to make sure she has a good time that evening, instead of being incredibly vain like Dylan. Then later, Frankie would explain to him that they were friends of her, and they would later all get together, and Frankie and her new boyfriend would tell them as kindly as possible that their actions were very selfish and that, if they really care about Frankie, they shouldn't pull off such a stunt again. At the same time, though, he would try his best to get along with Frankie's "crushees". Mac, Chris and Prince Charming would learn from their lesson and accept that they truly love each other. Bloo of course wouldn't take it so easily, but that's basically a given. (And I repeat, that scenario is IF and ONLY IF Frankie were with somebody who actually deserved her)

So please don't misunderstand me. But I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks that the relationship between Frankie and Bloo isn't a completely negative one.

[kaytea]

It may not seem like but I love frankie I even have a slight crush on her
she also happens to be one of the rare female characters I like caus normely I depise female characters

don't ask I just do =_='

and I admit I did feel sorry for her in IHFMUP
but thats not going to make me start hating "you know who"

[Cassini90125]

We wouldn't ask that of you. Just don't ask us to stop hating him. ;)

[Voxxyn]

she also happens to be one of the rare female characters I like caus normely I depise female characters

I actually agree with this very much. I usually dislike female characters in modern fiction because, quite frankly, most of them are overblown stereotypes. You have your damsels in distress, your holier-than-thou "I'M GONNA EAT YOU ALIVE" superwomen, your spoiled brats, your smug know-it-alls, your vapid "OMG I LIEK SEAN BUT HE'S GOING OUT WITH AMANDA WAAH MAH LIFE IS OVER T_T" teenage girls, your incredibly vain and snotty "cool" girls, your blatant attempts at pandering to horny males, etc.

Frankie is none of these, and that's why I adore her. She's very genuine and pure. :frankiesmile:

[Medikor]

They certainly hit the mark with Frankie. I don't know how they did it, but she is such a unique and original character. Maybe it's because she's "nothing special" in the sence that she's so real.
Normally, I feel that stereotypes are important for roles, but Frankie just manages to avoid being any one stereotype, like Voxxyn said. She's a great character because of this. I guess the less is more aproach had something to do with it.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I think the thing that makes Frankie most special is actually her simplicity. Frankie is a care giver, a loving, caring, and very relatable iconic young woman who has a temper. That's a pretty tame sounding personality. But that is by no means a bad thing, it makes her very direct and clear.

It takes a creative and open mind (like fans for example) to truly appreciate something that not everyone can see. Frankie isn't appreciated as much as she should be, most of us know that, and it's that very thing that makes her so special, that we can really see who she is regardless of side character titles.

Frankie is simple and sweet, she's a very loveable person and I think that's why it's so easy to like her. She doesn't try to prove anything or act Tomb raider style macho annoying and egotistical to prove something to males, she is who she is and she is a very kind and caring person.

I think also Grey Delise's way of performing some of Frankie's lines really sell that sweet image. I mean she sounded REALLY sincere when Frankie sounded worried about Coco's fake illness during "Bus the two of us". Or how she just said "Guys this isn't cool" about Bloo breaking the bust in "Busted".

You really could tell how she is and who she is from the way Grey delieverd those lines, and it's hard to notice those little things to be able to decipher characters through them. Or at least that's what I think. Frankie isn't complex, what you see is what you get and that's good old fashioned sweetness.

And that is exactly what i want from her, because that's what makes her so dam loveable!

[kageri]

I mean she sounded REALLY sincere when Frankie sounded worried about Coco's fake illness during "Bus the two of us".

I know right?! It made me "awwwww" out loud.

Also, I agree about her simplicity. Frankie's not one-dimensional, but she has no hidden motives. She's so honest; she just is what she is and knows how to be herself.

[Cassini90125]

she just is what she is and knows how to be herself.

Which is a good example for all of us to follow. :frankiesmile:

[Medikor]

I just rewatched "Setting a presadent" again today. You can really tell how good of an acter Grey Delisle is with the performance she do'es in the third act of the show. Good stuff.:D

[Amritama]

Frankie is one of my favorite human characters in the series. For one, she doesn't fall under a cookie-cutter stereotype and shows a wide spectrum of emotions. She also has a well-developed personality and certainly acts her age. Well, I'd say she acts more mature for her age, because most of the 21 year olds I've met at campus are pretty immature.

Sure, she has a rather prominent temper and flaws that can stick out like a sore thumb, but she also has good traits that make her a great caregiver for the imaginary friends at Foster. She's an affectionate, hardworking, sincere, and caring person deep down, and these parts of her personality outshine her flaws. I mean, if she didn't care about Foster's and the imaginary friends living there, why is she still there anyhow? She's a smart and independent girl, so I believe her love and dedication for tending to Foster's imaginary friends keeps her where she is.

Overall, Frankie is a character with a likable and realistic personality, which is rare in many types of entertainment, animated or not.

[Voxxyn]

Frankie's not one-dimensional, but she has no hidden motives. She's so honest; she just is what she is and knows how to be herself.

Which reminds me of another female character stereotype that pisses me off: the coldhearted "femme fatale" who deceives and manipulates her way to the top, who is nonetheless "irresistable" only because she's supposedly "sexy".

I'm especially glad that Frankie isn't one of those. Her honesty and sincerity is just wonderful.

[Medikor]

Amen!

[Invader Bloo]

I wonder when the next Frankie episode is? I like Cheese & her, they're funnier together. :)

[Cassini90125]

She may have a good-sized role in "Emancipation Complication", which is due in November.

[Medikor]

She was funny paied with Cheese. But I think she's best when playing off of Mr. Harriman. They're like Bert and Ernnie because they work so well together.

[Cassini90125]

That they do. And their relationship isn't always antagonistic; they can, and do, work together as a team now and then, as seen in "Land Of The Flea". I'd like to see that teamwork more often, but I enjoy the antagonism, too.

[Invader Bloo]

She may have a good-sized role in "Emancipation Complication", which is due in November.

As a Mr. Fredburger would say "Yes!"
I'm happy now! I hope she has a role in the Wilt movie.

[Cheese]

I would say:frankiesmile: is hard working,nice (sometimes),energenic,smart,tall,and caring to the imaginary friends.Thats how I desribe Frankie

[Voxxyn]

She may have a good-sized role in "Emancipation Complication", which is due in November.

Is that a complete guess, or has early information been revealed on that episode that I'm just unaware of? All I've read is that it'll have Mac encountering an imaginary friend created to cheat on school tests, and presumably will be about Mac trying to fight off the temptation.

I hope she has a role in the Wilt movie.

I really hope so too. I'm not saying she should get all the attention(this is Wilt's time in the spotlight, and he definitely deserves it), but I'll be very upset if she no-shows or only has a few background appearances and throwaway lines.

[Cassini90125]

Is that a complete guess, or has early information been revealed on that episode that I'm just unaware of? All I've read is that it'll have Mac encountering an imaginary friend created to cheat on school tests, and presumably will be about Mac trying to fight off the temptation.

This is what's written on the CN site:

"Mac rescues Lil' Lincoln, an Imaginary Friend created to cheat on a History test, from the teacher's closet. At Foster's, Lil' Lincoln proceeds to con everyone and take over the home! It is up to Mac and Frankie to thwart his evil plans and get the house back!"

Of course Mac will get all the glory at the end but the review does seem to suggest that Frankie will have a desent role in this one. (If Mac ends up rescuing her as well I'm going to be unhappy.) No air date was given; my guess is November 17th.

[GrimTheLost]

This is what's written on the CN site:

"Mac rescues Lil' Lincoln, an Imaginary Friend created to cheat on a History test, from the teacher's closet. At Foster's, Lil' Lincoln proceeds to con everyone and take over the home! It is up to Mac and Frankie to thwart his evil plans and get the house back!"

Of course Mac will get all the glory at the end but the review does seem to suggest that Frankie will have a desent role in this one. (If Mac ends up rescuing her as well I'm going to be unhappy.) No air date was given; my guess is November 17th.

Sounds like it'll be a good episode. I love Frankie... as do the other fanboys, but whatever 8D . I look forward to this ep.

[Medikor]

It sounds like it'll be a great episode!

[Cassini90125]

I'm definitely looking forward to it, mostly because it looks like Frankie's getting a lot of screen time, but also because it's been way too long since we've had any new episodes. Yeah, I know there's two out before EC; it's still been too long. :P

[Voxxyn]

That sounds really good, and yes, I hope that they won't pull a swerve and have Frankie fall for Lil' Lincoln's plot as well. Like we've already said, she's a very honest and sincere person, AND she's not afraid to make herself heard if something bothers her(Even if it ends in complete disaster for her, like in The Episode That Shall Not Be Named). Not only would it be very in-character for Frankie, we get to see more of our beloved redhead.

I'm also wondering what kind of role she'll have in "Bloo's the Boss". After all, isn't it a little "off" for Bloo to declare that he's the underappreciated one? :P

[Cassini90125]

Are you kidding? If Bloo carried a single empty dish back to the kitchen after a Foster's Home Thanksgiving, a meal that probably has nearly 10,000 dishes, and no one lavished praise on him for that one minor act, he'd complain about being underappreciated.

Foster's Home Thanksgiving... Now that's a feast I would love to attend! :frankiesmile:

Loved the comment about "The Episode That Shall Not be Named", by the way. :frankiesmile:

[Voxxyn]

By "off", I wasn't referring from the perspective of his logic, or lack thereof. I was talking about how Frankie or maybe Wilt would react to Bloo complaining about being the underappreciated one at Foster's.

EDIT: And just for the sake of being understood properly, please don't assume that I think Frankie or Wilt would be the type to whine about being underappreciated, because I definitely DON'T. It was just a thought, nothing more.

[Medikor]

She'd probobly scowl at him and say something sarcastic. You know, do something Frankie-like?8D

[Invader Bloo]

I'm also wondering what kind of role she'll have in "Bloo's the Boss". After all, isn't it a little "off" for Bloo to declare that he's the underappreciated one? :P

She gets paid dosen't she? ;)
I agree with you about Wilt's time to shine though. I love me some Wilt!
Maybe they'll do a movie based on the main-ish characters every now & then. (Frankie, Bloo, Ed, Mac, Herriman, Coco, Goo, Cheese* Since it looks like he'll be a main-ish character from now on* )

[bigdog]

Frankie Rocks. She reminds me of (what I have heard about) my Nana when she was young.

[Cassini90125]

She gets paid doesn't she? ;)

Whatever she's earning, it's not enough, not for the amount of work she does every day.

[lucyrocks73]

Well, we do know that she gets paid more than Mr. H.

-Marty :goo:

[Voxxyn]

Seeing how kooky Madame Foster can sometimes be, Frankie's pay probably consists of a few quarters. :P

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I doubt it. Frankie got paid more because in truth, she DOES more. Herriman is an imaginary friend and not really someone who does a whole lot for someone in his position. Plus, he doesn't ever seem to leave the house.

Aside from the beach trip in "Squeeze the day", he doesn't do anything or buy anything. I think Madame Foster pays Frankie well because it has to be something pretty good for her to quit being president over a financial difference.

Frankie's not greedy, but judging by her reaction, I think the amount removed from her original pay as care taker was signifigantly large.

[Voxxyn]

It does say on her Coco card(from Comic Con '06) that she IS underpaid to some extent. My "quarter" suggestion was tongue-in-cheek and not all that serious, but I'm agreeing with Cassini; she's probably not getting what she deserves for the insane amount of work she does.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I think she's more happy with just being able to do what she does rather then get paid.

This kind of job is the one where your rewards are usually the lovey dovey, emotional ones.

And since Frankie has such a big heart, I'm sure she'd love her job and still do it even if she was paid in Monopoly money.

[Voxxyn]

Exactly what makes her so wonderful in my eyes, and why my love for her has yet to weaken. :frankiesmile:

[Cassini90125]

Make it three. Let's face it, they can't pay her what's she worth. After all, she's priceless. :frankiesmile:

[Medikor]

Well, we do know that she gets paid more than Mr. H.

-Marty :goo:

And knowing is half the battle! 8D I'm sure Frankie gets paid fairly. Or at LEAST gets free room and board as part of the job. But I'm sure Frankie would keep doing what she's doing nomatter what she has to go thrue.

[abrarissokool]

ya.frankie rocks.sometimes i just wanna slap mr.herrimen.he keeps giving her more and more things to do!

[Medikor]

No need to dislike Mr.Hariman. Yes, he can be hard on Franakie but he does all the paperwork and probobly alot of the meet-and-greet's that would be part of donations and charaties. And I think he's a little more qualified for those things than Madam Foster.;)
And I think the friction between Mr.Hariman and Frankie is no more then a kind of sibling rivalry. He was her imaginary, and therefor best, friend and then comes life. Madam Foster grew up, got married, had kids, and now a grandkid. She never abandend him and still loves him, but I'm sure it hurts for him to not be the center of her life anymore.
I'm sure that Frankie and Hariman arent fighting ALL the time. Just when they're "on the screen". We know that the three are a loveing family.:D

:mfoster: :herriman: :frankiesmile:

[Cassini90125]

I'm sure that Frankie and Hariman arent fighting ALL the time. Just when they're "on the screen". We know that the three are a loveing family.:D

:mfoster: :herriman: :frankiesmile:

Hmmm...

After Frankie and Mr Herriman have yet another argument, Madam Foster gives them both a stern lecture about setting a good example for the less well-behaved IF's. She goes on to insist that all three of them are now going to have "Quality Time" together. She marches them up to her room and gets out the Scrabble board. "We're going to have a nice quiet game of Scrabble now," says Madam Foster, "and there'll be no talk about rules or budgets or any other House concerns, just idle chat, okay dearies?" Frankie and Mr. Herriman grumble a bit but comply, and the game begins. Twenty minutes into the game, Mr. Herriman, who knows every word in the English language, is pulling ahead and looking very well pleased with himself. Frankie scowls at his smug pleasure as she draws new letter tiles. Her scowl suddenly turns into a big mischievious smile as she spots an opportunity and spells out a word. Mr. Herriman examines Frankie's word; his eyes pop wide, and his monocle falls into his glass of carrot juice. "Miss Frances!" he yells. "That word is not in the official Scrabble dictionary!" Madam Foster, who had been dozing, wakes up at the commotion. "Hm? What's going on?" Mr. Herriman points at the Scrabble board. "It's what he is, Grandma," says Frankie. Madam Foster giggles; Mr Herriman seethes. "Now now, dear," Madam Foster says to Frankie. "Take that off the board and apologize to Mr. Herriman." Frankie removes the offending word and apologises. "I sawwy, Mr. Herriman," she says in a fake little girl voice, choking back her desire to laugh. "I won't ever call you a 'Doodoohead' ever again." Madam Foster loses it and bursts out laughing. Mr. Herriman rolls his eyes and wonders where his monocle has gone to.

:frankiesmile: :frankiesmile: :frankiesmile:

[Emma]

Hmmm...

After Frankie and Mr Herriman have yet another argument, Madam Foster gives them both a stern lecture about setting a good example for the less well-behaved IF's. She goes on to insist that all three of them are now going to have "Quality Time" together. She marches them up to her room and gets out the Scrabble board. "We're going to have a nice quiet game of Scrabble now," says Madam Foster, "and there'll be no talk about rules or budgets or any other House concerns, just idle chat, okay dearies?" Frankie and Mr. Herriman grumble a bit but comply, and the game begins. Twenty minutes into the game, Mr. Herriman, who knows every word in the English language, is pulling ahead and looking very well pleased with himself. Frankie scowls at his smug pleasure as she draws new letter tiles. Her scowl suddenly turns into a big mischievious smile as she spots an opportunity and spells out a word. Mr. Herriman examines Frankie's word; his eyes pop wide, and his monocle falls into his glass of carrot juice. "Miss Frances!" he yells. "That word is not in the official Scrabble dictionary!" Madam Foster, who had been dozing, wakes up at the commotion. "Hm? What's going on?" Mr. Herriman points at the Scrabble board. "It's what he is, Grandma," says Frankie. Madam Foster giggles; Mr Herriman seethes. "Now now, dear," Madam Foster says to Frankie. "Take that off the board and apologize to Mr. Herriman." Frankie removes the offending word and apologises. "I sawwy, Mr. Herriman," she says in a fake little girl voice, choking back her desire to laugh. "I won't ever call you a 'Doodoohead' ever again." Madam Foster loses it and bursts out laughing. Mr. Herriman rolls his eyes and wonders where his monocle has gone to.

:frankiesmile: :frankiesmile: :frankiesmile:

*Hands Cassini a gold star*

[Kzinistzerg]

I love that. That would so be great in a episode...

[HappyFoppy]

Cool, what's that story from?

Well, I have to say the Frankie would be the best female character I've seen; Also the voice is so cool. I love it how she can be _very_ happy and _very_ angry, It's funny how much that can change in 1 episode. Look at Store Wars... ;)

[Medikor]

That is SO good that I could actually see that in the show! Let's hope Craig is watching, Emma.;)

[Invader Bloo]

Madame Foster laughing at the end was priceless.
Frankie probally dosen't get paid alot, she's to nice to care. That's what alot of us love about her. An ever growing legion of fans.:frankiesmile:

[Mr. Marshmallow]

This is weird for me but, I was really shocked at Frankie's actions after seeing "World Wide Wabbit". This doesn't change how I feel about her, but it does bother me a little considering I didn't think Frankie was acting the way she would normally act here.

Frankie has always had beefs with Herriman, his rules and that are incredible anal retentive and I know she acts like she wants to pop him one sometimes. But I was little surprised she would be so eager to totally slam Herriman in such a public scale.

It surprised me that Mac would actually prove to be the cooler head between him and Frankie, having her realize she'd be totally screwed if Herriman found out. But anyways, I just thought it was a little odd to have her so "evil" like happy to get dirt on Herriman.

I always felt that Frankie had a love/hate kinda relationshop after seeing what happened to them in "Setting a president". It was kinda funny to see her so giddy about it but at times, she almost seemed like she was becoming like Bloo.

Anyways it was just an odd realization for me but that doesn't change my love for Frankie or anything like that, just something weird that caught my attention.

[Cassini90125]

It's an old episode; perhaps the writers were still trying to figure her out at that time. Plus I'm sure she has a dark side that comes out now and then; I've never met anyone who doesn't.

[Invader Bloo]

Yeah, that's why she's so Bloo-ish in my fan-fic is because of that episode. It was an earlier episode so they didn't have all the characters fully planend out yet. (Like Ed is obsessed with potatoes, Bloo barely ever shows his soft side, Franke is nice, etc...)

[Mr. Marshmallow]

It was just weird for her, I mean I know it was an older episode but even when I saw Frankie in her first episodes like in "Store Wars" or "Blooo" she didn't really seem like the kind of person to act that way. But this is just me here.

Bloo definitely lost his soft side, or at least buried it deep deep DEEP down below and brings it out on rare occasions, "Bloo's the boss" for instance. Another weird thing was Frankie diving into the garbage can for her computer.

That was also weird but that i actually found funny just because it was just a surprising action. Frankie treated that thing like cookies or something.

[Cassini90125]

It probably took her some time to save up for it on her salary; it could be quite valuable to her. Definitely funny though. :frankiesmile:

[kageri]

....I'd probably dive into a garbage can to get my computer. Well, maybe. Depends on what it had in it. Like if it was a bio-hazard dumpster in the back of a hospital, I probably wouldn't.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I'll do the smart thing and REACH for my computer out of the trash can rather then dive for it :frankiesmile:. Not saying Frankie was acting stupid, just silly and that's what made it all the more funnier.

It's amazing she can get the time to make a homepage for Foster's with all the taking care of the IFs and catering to Herriman's psycho cleaning rules and standards.

[Cassini90125]

Some of the IF's probably give her a hand here and there; they can't all be unappreciative of all the work she does.

[Invader Bloo]

In would if it was my Mac, a PC not so much.

[Voxxyn]

None of the characters are completely perfect angels; even WILT has been showing his dark side recently. That's what makes them so great and lovable.

I think for that episode, Frankie was obsessed with getting some serious payback--so much that she temporarily lost hold of sanity and reason. And it probably fried the part of her brain which dictates that you shouldn't dive into garbage cans.

But I loved that moment because not only was it funny, it shows that she isn't afraid to get down-and-dirty for what she loves, whether it's her friends or her computer.

[Medikor]

I didant think Frankie intended to show the tape of Hariman to anyone, let alone put it on the internet. (Bloo did that) I think Frankie just wanted to have it so she could let Hariman know she had it and let him torture himself about it. I think she was so caught up in the momant that she didant relize the concequanses that could happen when it got on the net.
I thought her diving into the can for her computer was one of the funnyestparts of the episode. Computers are expensive and we see Frankie useing it alot in her spare time. I just loved it when she screemed "My baby!". I would have done the same if my computer was thrown into the trash.8D Plus it's a cartoon, so it would be funnyer if she jumped into the can rather then just reach into it.;)

[billytheskink]

I know I'm late to the discussion, but I liked that part (the trashcan jumping). Very funny. Would have been funnier if she'd owned a PC Jr.

Funnier to me at least...

[Invader Bloo]

None of the characters are completely perfect angels; even WILT has been showing his dark side recently. That's what makes them so great and lovable.


That's all with Cheese, Cheese CAN & WILL make most people show their dark side including nice people like Wilt & Frankie.

[Kzinistzerg]

All characters do. Witness Mac and sugar.

IN that episode I would ahve acted the same way. ON the net? no, but showing it to other residents? yeah!

[Invader Bloo]

Yeah that computer probally cost her alot of money & took alot of time away.

[Medikor]

I caught "Busted" the other day and I have to say that Frankie looked really cute in that bathrobe with the towel over her head.:D

[Cassini90125]

That she did. That whole scene in the bathroom was pretty funny, too. ;D

[InsaneFan]

"Closer."
"I don't think I want too..."

[Cassini90125]

"Closer."
"I don't think I want too..."

Exactly! Classic moment! ;D

[Medikor]

I love those Frankie/Harriman moments!8D

[billytheskink]

"Two squares Ms. Francis"

"What?! I'm not even doing that"

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, classic.

[Cassini90125]

Okay, I can't have this thread heading towards a discussion of toilet paper or anything related to it, so here's something new; a shot of Frankie like nothing you've ever seen before:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f184/Cassini90125/Red_Hot.jpg

I've always wanted to see her in red. I've been looking for the outfits she's worn on the show; y'all saw the little black dress in my Sims thread, the other outfits are proving to be harder to find. I did find the blue bikini from "Squeeze The Day" and her nightclothes from "Squeakerboxxx", but you can rest assured that I have no intention whatsoever of ever posting either one of them. ;)

As for the red outfit, what do you think? :)

[Medikor]

Very nice. It makes Frankie look like she's going for an interview or something. Very profestional.:D
I just rewatched "Frankie my Dear" again today, and I have a question that will probobly not be answered. Dylin (That jerk:scaryberry: ) commented on the difficulty of Frankie's major. Does this mean she went to collage? She's 22 and she was likely 18 when she finished high-school, so that would be enough time for her to get a four year course. And in "The Big Cheese" she say's that she's a "profestional care-giver". But in "The Big Picture, you can see that she has been in the house almost her whole life-including the years she could have spent getting a degree.
I just assumed that she would have learned what she would have needed to be qualified to work at Fosters just from growing up there. And I like to think that all it would take to get the job is to have Maddam Foster give you the "look over" to see if you truely have, or could learn, a love for imaginary friends.
Maybe I'm just thinking too hard or I need to remember that as much as I would love to, I could never live in a cartoon.:( So what do you guys think?

[Sparky]

I went to college, and I wasn't in class 24/7. ;) Frankie could have easily been in the house the day of the annual photo for those 4 years. Also, getting a degree in something does not automatically equal you getting a job in that field, as many of us here can attest. :) Frankie surely went to college, got a degree in something, and wound up right back at the house doing what she probably did during pretty much her entire child/teenhood, as well as every college break she had. :terrsmile: I wish *I* had a family business to fall back on, I can tell you that much.

[pitbulllady]

I went to college, and I wasn't in class 24/7. ;) Frankie could have easily been in the house the day of the annual photo for those 4 years. Also, getting a degree in something does not automatically equal you getting a job in that field, as many of us here can attest. :) Frankie surely went to college, got a degree in something, and wound up right back at the house doing what she probably did during pretty much her entire child/teenhood, as well as every college break she had. :terrsmile: I wish *I* had a family business to fall back on, I can tell you that much.

OHHHH...yeah, I can attest, indeed. I have TWO degrees, one of which started out as a Visual Art degree with emphasis on Graphic Design. My intention was to become an advertising designer, but the computer revolution pretty much took care of THAT, so that degree had to morph into a Master of Art Education. That Biology degree was to help me get a job in a major zoo or wildlife park in the event that the advertizing thing didn't work out, and so far a bunch of sugar-hyped middle-schoolers are the closest I've gotten to dealing with "wildlife" as part of my career. I still came home on most weekends while at college, and was around for major family events, including family portraits, during my undergraduate years, and I had quite a drive between home and college. It's possible that Frankie was able to attend a college right there in her hometown, wherever Foster's is located, so she could still live at home and commute daily to classes. That's what I did while earning my Master's degree.

pitbulllady

[montitech]

I would agree with Pitbulllady,

I think Frankie would have gone to school locally,
Most likely night school.

I put myself through school (attending three different institutions in comletion of my AS,AAS and BS) and have come seen many other students commuting to classes. Where some but not all worked full time. It is very common for people that work in family bussiness to attend night school as opposed to going away to school (in my opinion).

Monty:-/

[Medikor]

Thanks, guys. That was very informative. I finished high-school and never went to, or intend to, collage. I hated school more then anything else in my life, and the thought of going to another one just makes me wanna die.:(
I don't know what it is but Frankie just dosent strike me as the collage type. I guess that's just one more thing that makes her out of my league if she were real.8D

[Kzinistzerg]

Wellll... It depends, she coudl actually have finished earlier than 18: I'm a year younger than my classmates and I got an offer to skip senior year (I don't actually meet the qualifications, though) from a college in california, which would mean i'd start college at 16. WHich i can't, but it's possible for someone not so hard-headed as I to do.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I personally think Frankie didn't go to college yet, or if she did, she just got started and had to stop due to her duties at Foster's. Frankie's knowledge of the computer and judging by her own attitudes, I'd say she's been out of high school for a bit now.

My guess is that she wasn't able to do as much at Foster's as a child as she was growing up, with school and all. But now that she's an adult, she's free to take time off and devote herself full time to Foster's, which is what's most important to her.

Frankie doesn't seem like the kind of person who's rushing to go back to school, she seems content and happy where she is. I'm sure she wants to go back but it's obvious no matter how you slice it that her heart will always belong at Foster's first and foremost.

[Sparky]

I personally think Frankie didn't go to college yet, or if she did, she just got started and had to stop due to her duties at Foster's. Frankie's knowledge of the computer and judging by her own attitudes, I'd say she's been out of high school for a bit now.

Dylan says to her in Frankie My Dear:

"Wow, I heard that's a really tough major; I'm impressed. So, what do you do now that you've graduated?"

I suppose one could argue that he's referring to a high school major. But I wouldn't.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I just think it's a bit fast for her to finish college so quickly.

Especially with such a heavy load to take care of at Foster's.

[Sparky]

Well, college is typically 4 years. If she graduated high school at the age of 17 (her birthday being in July, so she would have turned 18 that summer) and entered college that fall (again, at the age of 18), she would have graduated at the age of 21 (in May/June) and turned 22 the following July. I was 17 when I graduated high school, it's quite common.

But if anyone prefers to think she didn't go to college, no one's stopping them. :terrsmile: It's just a cartoon and we're all just throwing theories around half the time anyways. It's fun.

[Medikor]

I just don't find Frankie to be the collage type. I'm not insulting her intellagane or anything, she just seems happy at Fosters. We all know that she's going to take over someday.:D

[pitbulllady]

I just don't find Frankie to be the collage type. I'm not insulting her intellagane or anything, she just seems happy at Fosters. We all know that she's going to take over someday.:D

Would you mind telling us exactly what IS "the college type"? I have two degrees, like I've said, yet I did very little drinking in college(REALLY), I had no interest whatsoever in pledging a sororiety, I came home to my family on most weekends, and I actually made very good grades-3.8 GPA. I knew from the get-go that if I wanted to get a half-way decent job and be able to afford getting out on my own and not have to live with my parents for the rest of my life, I needed a degree. Frankie probably was thinking along those same lines, since she seems to be the practical, logical sort, much like myself. She might not have actually been WORKING at Foster's while she was in college, but like so many college grads, might have found that it was far more difficult to get a job in her chosen major than she originally thought, and her grandmother offered to put her on the payroll, OR she might have had a change of heart about pursuing a graduate degree and career outside of her home. That often happens, too. I orignally set out to be a graphic designer, with big dreams of moving away to a big city like NYC or LA, but the Computer Revolution did for graphic designers what robotics has done for the automobile industry, and I quickly discovered that my family and country traditions that I almost wound up taking for granted were more important than a job far away in some big cold city. I can easily see Frankie arriving at a similar conclusion upon graduation.

Incidentally, I graduated when I was 17 from high school, turned 18 the following July(didn't the info on Frankie's DL say she was born in July, as well?), and completed my undergraduate degree by the time I was
21. I COULD have actually graduated earlier than that, having exempted most of my basic ed requirements, like US History, Literature 101, and several Biology and General Science, by taking AP tests in high school. I just got sorta lazy in my Sr. year of college and opted out against taking a full course load each first semester, which meant I had to go through the second semester to get enough credits.

pitbulllady

[billytheskink]

the "Frankie My Dear" reference to her "major" and "graduation" does everything short of prove that the writers intend her to be a college graduate.

Mr. M, I haven't seen anything that indicates (with certainty) that she's worked at Foster's fulltime all through her college-age years (she's obviously lived there, or at least shown up for picture day and secret door openings). Finishing college before or at the age of 22 is certainly not unthinkable...

[billytheskink]

didn't the info on Frankie's DL say she was born in July, as well?

July 25, 1984 is what it said. The premiere date of the Foster's Pilot movie, I believe, with 1984 being the year neccessary to make Frankie 22 years old when "Bus the Two of Us" aired.

speaking of which, she needs to get her lisence renewed by January 9.

[kageri]

speaking of which, she needs to get her lisence renewed by January 9.

I'm sure Bloo will remind her. And make her let him tag along.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

My point was that simply due to the fact of her age, it seemed to me more likely that she wasn't able to get enough done at Foster's while she was going through high school and that. Now that she is an adult, she seems able to devote more time to it.

I'm not saying it's unthinkable, but it does seem a bit strange and just looking at Frankie, and this is by no way an insult, I just can't fit colleage graduate with her. But I think this is being way too overthought considering that it's obvious the show isn't gonna go to deep into this kind of material.

We only have loose bits and words that indicate what her education life or expierence is, and that's not enough to fully say she's this or that.

[billytheskink]

Mr. M, I'm curious as to your interpretation of the line "Wow, I heard that's a really tough major, I'm impressed. So, what do you do now that you've graduated?"

[Medikor]

Would you mind telling us exactly what IS "the college type"? I have two degrees, like I've said, yet I did very little drinking in college(REALLY), I had no interest whatsoever in pledging a sororiety, I came home to my family on most weekends, and I actually made very good grades-3.8 GPA.

pitbulllady

I'm sorry if I offended you, Pitbully.:o What I meant by "collage type" was that Frankie just dosant look like she would want to be Donald Trump-like. I doubt Frankie would want to get involved with a sororety and drink (she's better then that). When I think of people who take collage seriously, I think of people who will be very sucsesful and get one of those jobs where you wear a suit all the time (nothing wrong with that).
But I guess not everyone goes to collage to get that kind of life-style. I just never really knew anyone who went and I'm just ignorant about the subject. I'm really sorry.:( I hope I didant offend any of you.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Mr. M, I'm curious as to your interpretation of the line "Wow, I heard that's a really tough major, I'm impressed. So, what do you do now that you've graduated?"

I'm just saying it just seems odd to me that she'd finish at that age. Not impossible just odd, and it doesn't say what she graduated from.

I'm not saying he';s referring to high school I'm just saying, to me, she doesn't look it is all.

[pitbulllady]

I'm sorry if I offended you, Pitbully.:o What I meant by "collage type" was that Frankie just dosant look like she would want to be Donald Trump-like. I doubt Frankie would want to get involved with a sororety and drink (she's better then that). When I think of people who take collage seriously, I think of people who will be very sucsesful and get one of those jobs where you wear a suit all the time (nothing wrong with that).
But I guess not everyone goes to collage to get that kind of life-style. I just never really knew anyone who went and I'm just ignorant about the subject. I'm really sorry.:( I hope I didant offend any of you.


MOST people who are in college are actually the exact OPPOSITE of Donald Trump(did he even go to college? I know Bill Gates didn't.). Most-at least for the first couple of years-are there to celebrate being away from their parents and to PART-TAY! Yeah, there's the usual share of geeks, and preppies, but most are just kids. You didn't offend me at all, but I thought I needed to set the record straight about "college types", since I've been one, and known many. College is when most kids really "let their hair down", so to speak. The only ones you'll see wearing suits at most colleges and universities in the US are professors, and most of THEM don't(seriously, college profs tend to be some REALLY strange people), unless you're at a religious college, one operated by a large Fundamentalist church.

pitbulllady

[Voxxyn]

(I apologize for veering into a completely different matter than the one discussed in the last handful of posts, but this is something I really have to get off of me for the sake of my sanity.)

You guys know how much I love Frankie. I do my best to express that love and passion for her in as civilized and decent way possible, but sometimes I'll go a little over-the-top. A month ago, I REALLY lost it for a brief period when discussing the Mattel toys, which evolved into an incredibly irrational post here worrying that her role would be diminished. That was actually somewhat of my personal reaction to the constant citation by fans of the so-called "Foster's 5"(Mac, Bloo, Wilt, Eduardo and Coco), which gave the vibe that Frankie was meaningless by comparison. To be honest, though, that doesn't the case at all; Frankie actually has had a pretty large role as of late, and it seems she will continue to do so for now. (I'm starting to think it's MR. HERRIMAN who's been getting a lil' shafted lately, but that's another issue entirely which I'll leave for another time).

I'm quite happy about that... and depending on the nature in which she's handled for her next major roles, it might or might not do something about the fact that I still feel depressed and hurt about what happened to her in "Imposter's Home For, Um... Make 'Em Up Pals".

For months, my affair with that episode has had two sides. On some days, I'm able to joke about it in a lighthearted way, like using the term "The Episode That Shall Not Be Named" or joking about Frankie having to explain her experience with Goofball to her parents... and then on other days, my hatred of it would run high, the perfect example being my streak of heated posts on Goofball's own thread. I've tried my best to make sure the former side triumphs over the latter. I've done everything I could to just get over that episode and move on.

Sigh.

I can't. Instead, I will be simple and blunt. I ABSOLUTELY FREAKING HATE THAT EPISODE, AND CONSIDER IT AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO FOSTER'S AND AN OUT-AND-OUT INSULT TO FRANKIE.

I've seen all the attempts to defend and justify that episode's existence. I admire that there are some who actually enjoyed it, but NONE of these have done anything to make me accept it. In fact, some of these have succeeded in making me feel even worse. Lauren Faust's defense on ToonZone makes sense, from a logical viewpoint. But from my personal emotional level, the very one that is deeply sympathetic to Frankie and was wounded by the events of the episode, well... I got the feeling that Mrs. Faust completely failed to grasp just how far they crossed the line. And that, quite frankly, only hurt me even more. And then there's the rationale of some that Frankie "deserved to miss her concert", which with all due respect, is ABSOLUTE CRAP. AND I'm also insulted by those who brag about how they "aren't pandering to fans", in retrospect of "The Big Cheese", an episode that only seems to exist because of peer pressure from Cheese's popularity... and, go figure, it also gave Frankie a tough time(Nowhere near as "Imposter's", of course; but I probably would've hated it as much if it ended when the news team arrived and thus left her on a bad note).

Even the most casual referrence to the episode feels like a stab to the heart. Mr. Marshmellow mentioned how Frankie dressed up as an imaginary friend in the cartoon crushes thread. Over at IMDb, Pitbulllady cited Frankie's grocery woes as being funny because it's "been there done that". Both of these posts angered and depressed me, solely because it was a reminder of the episode that I was desperately trying to forget. The latter is ESPECIALLY upsetting, because while the grocery bit on it's own could've been somewhat funny on it's own, the sum of what happens to Frankie in that episode is definitely not.

In fact, and as pathetic as this might sound; I've become a little traumatized by the episode. I can't think of biology or laboratory experiments without being reminded that such is how Frankie's whole ordeal began. I can't go into a grocery store anymore without thinking about how she was sent to re-purchase the groceries because Bloo and Goofball ate everything. And I will never be able to attend a concert without feeling deeply guilty over how Frankie had to miss hers. It's gotten THAT bad for me.

I guess what I'm trying to say is this: I hope the writers never do such an episode again. Never. I appreciate that they're as capable of affecting us on a deep emotional level as much as they are of making us laugh... but even by that standard, "Imposter's" was simply too much. I don't think I could ever handle another one like it.

I'm looking forward to seeing Frankie in "Emancipation Complication", as well as "Good Wilt Hunting". And I sincerely hope that whatever Frankie-related surprises Season 5 has in store for us will be of the good kind.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Even the most casual referrence to the episode feels like a stab to the heart. Mr. Marshmellow mentioned how Frankie dressed up as an imaginary friend in the cartoon crushes thread.

The cartoon remark was simply to add to the point that cartoon characters can act differently, as in, not who they are. The point was simply to add to the fact that Frankie was trying to be something she was not, this wasn't an insult to her.

Out of anyone on this board, you know I don't harbor any remotely possible negative feelings or comments to Frankie. I understand your frustration and feelings towards the episode, believe me, there are episodes on other shows that i feel exactly the same way.

But please don't feel bad if someone mentions the episode unless someone is using it to harm someone or something from the show, like you said with the grocery bit. I didn't mention the dressing up thing as a jab, it was simply a reference to the topic at hand.

If you hate the episode then that's fine, but I would suggest relaxing a bit if any mentioning of it does come up. The episode DID happen, it DOES exist, and nothing you say or do will change that. I simply suggest you try to calm the biological loathing for the episode.

You love Frankie like many of us do, and hating a Frankie bashing episode is perfectly understandable. But lashing out at any possible reference to it is a bit much, just cool off and don't focus so much of your energy towards hating an episode every time it's brought up.

[Medikor]

Don't worry, Vox. Frankie pulled through that ordeal well enough. I'm sure we're going to get a "Frankie appreciation" episode sooner or later. And If you think about it, Bloo had a really tough episode with "The Sweet Stench of Success" too. And "Good Wilt Hunting" looks like Wilt is going to have a really uninjoyable time before the episodes expected happy ending.
If it helps, I find that these episodes are meant to show the characters in a very vulnerable and state that we can all relate to. And it certainly helps make us love our favorite characters even more because of it. These episodes help shape and solidify the characters in a way that we could all learn from, and is to not dwell on the negatives and focus on the bright side. I could make some examples of how IHFMUP's could be considerd a learning experiance for Frankie, but that can wait for another time.
I don't think Mrs. Faust meant any malice against Frankie or her fans at all. I think she just didant relize how wonderful of a character that she made that we all have fallen in love with so much that it breaks our hearts to see her have to suffer in the slightest.
I love Frankie as much as you do, Vox and I get a very warm and fuzzy feeling everytime I think of her. I guess I'm just trying to say that we don't like the episode because of how it treats Frankie, but for some reason or another that you may have overlooked. You don't have to like the episode, it's you're choice and right to hate it with a passion. In fact, you have my full support in hateing the episode with you're entire being.8D
PS- Pitbully, thanks for the enlightenment regarding the mindset of collage-goers. I'm just glad I didant hurt you're, or anyone else's feelings.:D

[billytheskink]

I'm just saying it just seems odd to me that she'd finish at that age. Not impossible just odd, and it doesn't say what she graduated from.

I'm not saying he';s referring to high school I'm just saying, to me, she doesn't look it is all.
I don't see college folks as having a particular "look". Most college kids I know (and I know many) are pretty unique and many will graduate at or before age 22. And now I'm realizing that I'm pretty much paraphrasing what Pitbulllady already said.
I think Frankie's age (22) combined with the term "major" and the implication that her graduation was recent are strong arguments that she's been written as a college graduate.

Donald Trump graduated from Wharton College at the University of Pennsylvania, by the way. Tough school, or so I've heard.

[Cassini90125]

Well said by all. My feeling is that if anything positive can be said about "Imposter's", it's that it really made us care all the more about someone wonderful that we already cared about to begin with. The fact that the episode continues to upset some of us, myself included, says a lot to me about how very likable a character Frankie is, that she can inspire so much emotion in us, both positive and negative. On that note, may I suggest that we keep Goofball in his thread and out of this one? This is Frankie's thread, after all, and I'd much rather it be a thread where we talk about and celebrate her rather than waste our time on a one-shot putz who deserves only our contempt. And she's certainly worth celebrating. :frankiesmile:

[Mr. Marshmallow]

For the last time, by "look" that doesn't necessarily mean college grads have a look.

It's a personal thing that people see. When you see a character, certain things in your own personal way come into your mind. This is one for me. I didn't mean to draw this out into a whole big ordeal.

I was simply saying that because of just a natural view of appearance on her, it didn't fit in my mind that she finished college. Mostly due to the fact that cartoons rarely ever cross this sort of subject.

High school is one thing but toons rarely go off into college unless it's integral to the plot and revolves around school 24/7 like shows like "Totally Spies" or "W.I.T.C.H.". I wasn't doing this to produce "facts" or quotes to back anything up.

If that's what the episode says, then that's what it says, I'm just saying at first glance, it didn't come to mind.

[DoubleLatte]

I don't see college folks as having a particular "look". Most college kids I know (and I know many) are pretty unique and many will graduate at or before age 22. And now I'm realizing that I'm pretty much paraphrasing what Pitbulllady already said.

I was actually going to comment (or more or less, rant) about the "business suit/Trump" thing. That's just.... yeah, just, NO. Most of the rich and famous didn't even GO to college. Business has got nothing to do with being a college graduate. When I think "college", I think about lawyers, doctors, psychiatrists, teachers, or a career that requires more than just a high school diploma and even a Bachelor's degree. Funny thing, I actually posted something just like this concerning Frankie's college education and degree on another thread. I forgot which one though. :p

I think Frankie's age (22) combined with the term "major" and the implication that her graduation was recent are strong arguments that she's been written as a college graduate.

I've never seen "Frankie My Dear", but I don't know just how much more obvious a line like, "Wow, I heard that's a really tough major" and "So, what do you do now that you've graduated?" has to be. These are the words we all use when referring to a college education. I don't get how some people think that graduating college at the age of 21 is being too soon. I'll be turning 21 next May, about a week after my college graduation. I'd say Frankie indeed finished college, though at her age, she couldn't have obtained more than a Bachelor's.

[billytheskink]

For the last time, by "look" that doesn't necessarily mean college grads have a look.

It's a personal thing that people see. When you see a character, certain things in your own personal way come into your mind. This is one for me. I didn't mean to draw this out into a whole big ordeal.

I was simply saying that because of just a natural view of appearance on her, it didn't fit in my mind that she finished college. Mostly due to the fact that cartoons rarely ever cross this sort of subject.

High school is one thing but toons rarely go off into college unless it's integral to the plot and revolves around school 24/7 like shows like "Totally Spies" or "W.I.T.C.H.". I wasn't doing this to produce "facts" or quotes to back anything up.

If that's what the episode says, then that's what it says, I'm just saying at first glance, it didn't come to mind.

No ordeal my friend, just some entertaining discussion. You know from prior discussions with me that I just like to talk about things that are interesting and like to see other perspectives. Prior to reading this thread, I thought Frankie's college education was something all fans simply assumed as a given. That's obviously not the case and I'm curious as to why.

"She doesn't look it at all" carries the implication that college folks have a certian look (one that Frankie does not match). That's what I saw, that's what prompted my statements. My apologies for any misinterpretation.


DoubleLatte, most of the rich and famous didn't go to college, but I'd wager that most of the rich (and not famous) did. While not always neccessary to work in certain business positions (but a must in areas like accounting), a college business degree (even a bachelor's) can open up a lot of doors. There's no substitute for hard work, though.

Now, let us not forget the most important thing about college...
Basketball.

[Nathander]

Sorry for breaking the flow of the conversation, but I haven't gotten to say how I feel about Frankie yet, and I really want to. Forgive me if I say something that's been said already, but I really don't have the patience to read through 40+ pages of opinions. No offense, I just want to put my two cents in.

I really, really, really love Frankie, and I'd like to see more of her like we did in the first season. It's bothered me to no end how she's seemingly being phased out, as I think she's too important a character to just do that too. Hopefully, the upcoming Emancipation Complication will do just that. My fingers are crossed, at least.

I think, in a lot of ways, the appeal Frankie has for me is because I can make similarities (somewhat) between myself and her. For one, I have a job (somewhat) similiar to her's, though not on as grand a scale, as I'm merely part of the cleaning crew for a Wal-Mart Supercenter (yes, I work at Wal-Mart; least it's a job). Again, it's nowhere near the task Frankie has, but I can understand where a lot of her frustration comes from. Other than that, the similiarities are fairly basic and generic: kindness, occasional short temper, ect.

Just my two cents for now.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I really, really, really love Frankie, and I'd like to see more of her like we did in the first season. It's bothered me to no end how she's seemingly being phased out, as I think she's too important a character to just do that too. Hopefully, the upcoming Emancipation Complication will do just that. My fingers are crossed, at least.

I couldn't agree more.

[Voxxyn]

I used to think she was being phased out, for a brief while. I'll be honest, I HATE the whole concept of the "Foster's Five"(Mac, Bloo, Wilt, Ed and Coco) because it gives the feeling that Frankie is second-rate and unimportant by comparison; and I originally expressed it by fearing that Mattel would snub her for their upcoming line of Foster's toys. I still kinda am; but what I REALLY care about is for Frankie to continue being a prominent part of the show.

She's had a pretty big role in Season Four, especially the later episodes... and after how she's "paid her dues" recently(i.e: being lied to and deceived in "Bus the Two of Us", and nearly going crazy from stress in "The Big Cheese"), I think she's earned the right to shine in "Emancipation Complication".

I'm anticipating that episode almost as much as the Wilt fans are anticipating GWH. :) :frankiesmile:

[Cassini90125]

As am I. I caught a very brief preview of the episode yesterday afternoon where Frankie was telling Madam Foster that "He locked us in a closet!", presumably referring to Lil' Lincoln (who does look a little like Lincoln). I'm totally psyched for this episode! :frankiesmile:

[billytheskink]

Frankie goes to Hollywood...

would that joke be too corny to revisit?

[Medikor]

I doubt that they will ever phase Frankie out of the show, she's too popular and important. The commercial for "Good Wilt Hunting" show's that she's as involved as ever by takeing the gang on a bus then plane ride in the hunt for Wilt.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Well she's definitely grown more as the show has progressed. Her role in "Bloo's the Boss" was pretty large in the beginning, well large might not be the right word. But she had plenty of air time and I loved her "insanity" cases.

"Big Cheese" and "Bus the two of us" may have been torturous for Frankie, but as we saw from the endings, she more or less wasn't as completely miserable about the whole thing as she has had with OTHER episodes.

I think this kind of torture is funny because as this proved out to be the case, neither episode was designed to put Frankie through hell 24/7. Mac probably went through more stress in "Bus" despite Frankie's legal backlashes.

And considering how she turned Cheese's disaster around in "Big Cheese", I think it's safe to say she's a much stronger person thanks to these newer episodes. Plus, she was funny as hell when she was snapping at Cheese.

[Voxxyn]

I didn't say those episodes were funny, far from it. "Bus the Two of Us" was great. And I've said countless times that "The Big Cheese" was saved from being an unfunny mess thanks to Frankie's many reactions to the titular character.

I only brought up those episodes noting that Frankie definitely "paid her dues"(aka SUFFERED) in them. She presumably went through a legal nightmare thanks to Bloo's actions in BTTOU, nearly had her(and all of Foster's) good name smeared by the media in TBC, and if the Fridays sneak peek is any indication, Lil' Lincoln is going to give her a hard time as well. She deserves to shine in a more positive way, and hopefully the outcome to her role in EC will provide that.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I wouldn't worry too much about the whole legal thing since that's obviously not really gonna play into the show ever again. If that was the case, Bloo would have been tracked down after that couch stunt he pulled back in "Store Wars".

But also that Frankie didn't suffer alone, Eduardo sure suffered a bit in "Big Cheese" and I doubt Wilt enjoyed stressing himself out over all the lying in "Bus". But like i said, Frankie's a strong girl and she's bounced back from alot worse then this.

Sure it would be nice to see her have a totally suffer free day, but in a way, seeing her temper tantrums are funny because it's a part of who she is. I always love how she screams Bloo's name when she usually talks to him as opposed to anyone else.

But seriously, don't worry about it, Frankie's built on better things.

[Medikor]

"Frankie's built on better things"... That would make a great sig!

[billytheskink]

Frankie goes to a basketball game...

another good one.

[duck2k]

I definitely am in love with Frankie (don't tell my significant other); we both have the same names: she is Frances, I am Francis. I am probably old enough to be her father, but she is a true all American girl. And besides - she's a redhead!

[Medikor]

Redheads are great alright. And Frankie's the greates of them all!:bloogrin

[LosDosEduardos]

I believe that she is like a big sister to the imaginary friends. That's why she likes them so much. I wonder how she feels for human friends she has made like Mac.

[Cassini90125]

She likes humans, too. Mac is hardly the only human friend she has; she's mentioned a woman named Kathy more than once, and I'm sure she thinks of Madam Foster as a friend as well as her grandmother.

[Medikor]

And I'm sure Mr. Harreman counts as a friend too. I love that love-hate relationship of theirs.8D They never do show Kathy do they? I guess it's kind of like Mariss in Frasier.

[Cassini90125]

Just not as skinny. ;) I would like to meet Kathy at some point in the series, as well as Frankie's other friends outside the house. I don't think she has a lot, due to the amount of time and energy she has to spend maintaining the house, but I have no doubt she has more than some people give her credit for.

[kageri]

With her charisma I'd find it hard to believe that at least some of her peers wouldn't put effort into keeping in touch with her. She's worth the flip-floppy schedules and cancellations (that are entirely not her fault).

And heck, I'd be friends with Madame Foster. Bowling grannies are where it's at!

[Medikor]

Sigh... I wis